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    Default I hate people. Adults, that is.

    I hate people. Adults to be specific. I have come to a point of my life where I have observed enough. People are cunning , strategic and dishonest at best, and ruthless and evil at their worst . And it's all getting worse.

    Adults are liars and manipulative, in order to get what they want. Anyone surprised?

    I love children. And help yourself perverts to what I will say, as you are in the category I mention above.

    Children like animals are loving, expecting, forgiving , hopeful and beautifully innocent.
    And baby animals, like baby children, are perfect. They are all looking towards us adults to protect , guide and save them. And god damn those who don't!

    I resent I cannot admire the beauty of children in public . I resent beauty is now on trial . I resent Im being asked to lie about everything.
    I am not racist. If I am , everyone is. Tribes have been around since day one we humans arrived, destroying each other for resources , food, water, fire, women and so on. Pure survival, so pure racism. Its not my plan.

    So all people are tribal, meaning "racist" in todays manipulative and dishonest moment we live designed to divide and make money. Money the root of all ****ing evil for sure. .

    I haven't had a hug from a women or a love relationship in close to 10 years. Yes, sorry Im a boring and predictable non sensational or newsworthy heterosexual .
    I hate how sex identity has been made into such a dividing thing . Its as if its the only identity a person has! IM LGBTQRSTUVW, and I demand etc. F*** you, stop leading with you sex organs. No one ****ing cares!

    It's a no win situation because everyone is “ actualized” . All brainwashed, they need to win, be on top, don't yield rather than harmonize or compliment. Anyone happy as they google their answers?

    Everyone desperately working out , treadmills, pumping and Pilates , all to loneliness, holding on to what is only fleeting and will eventually pass.
    I Have never seen more young women alone in packs at restaurants, 10 at a table. Without an attorney, no man dare approach.

    Im just a little person, A meaningless person, yet I know my words resonate with many.

    Im already very ready to die now, to die off and make room for these liars, these thieves of spirit and truth trying to inherit the planet.
    Perhaps I know nothing and Im an idiot? I don't know, and it doesn't matter.

    Look around friends, 2022, going to be very hard.
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    Lightbulb Re: I hate people. Adults, that is.

    “Love is the absence of fear ... as evil is the absence of love.”
    Last edited by ExomatrixTV; 23rd November 2021 at 12:20.
    No need to follow anyone, only consider broadening (y)our horizon of possibilities ...

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    Default Re: I hate people. Adults, that is.

    God bless you Doug. You're older and wiser than me but if I may humbly offer my 2 cents it's that you're burned out and need a break of sorts. Life is good my friend, don't let it get you down. There's darkness everywhere but the sun never stopped shining and the flowers never stopped blooming. I think you may have just grown numb to these pleasures or you just stare at the darkness too often. 2021 has been fantastic and I'm damn sure going to make sure 2022 is even better. Much love, everything is ok.
    Today is victory over yourself of yesterday. Tomorrow is your victory over lesser men.

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    Default Re: I hate people. Adults, that is.

    strat/ thanks, but im in the bellie of the beast, and cant ignore my reality. i dont live in hate, quite the contrary, i just see deciet and division disguised in " love"

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    Default Re: I hate people. Adults, that is.

    Hi Doug
    I have always admired and enjoyed reading your post. I believe that you bring an intelligent and artistic flair to your written word and your thinking. I believe much of what you have to say does resonate with people. On more than one occasion your words have given me pause for thought. Out of frustration (or anger), I have painted 'all' people with the same broad brush and have come to realize that it was a huge mistake. It seems that you have done the same in this post. I assure you that most people in this world are honest non-manipulative people and worthy of our trust. Those are the sort of souls you are interacting with here at Avalon.

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    Default Re: I hate people. Adults, that is.

    I understand what you are saying Doug. A sensitive aware person cannot ignore what is happening around the world. rgray222 is right, even though you can't see the good people of this world, we are here, feel your pain, and care. That's important to remember.

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    Default Re: I hate people. Adults, that is.

    I can feel what you said Doug, do not hate all people, if you do then you are just labeling them all as bad and that is not true, not everybody is hateful, but yeah some category is really a burden on society (aka politicians and their legion of minions), of course not limited to them only.

    That's what life takes, I myself have almost no friends, most part of the time I am alone dealing with my own mediocre situation as human, but I am ok with that and many times I end up laughing of my own situation, because otherwise I would be just fighting against it and I know very well I can't change a sh!t, not that I do not believe in changes, I do, but it happens in the right time, earth is undergoing some big changes specifically about human transformation and it will take a little while until things settle down for good, but we may not be incarnated to see that.

    The cycle of evil and good, the so called duality is everywhere, we can't break/change/erase it, but sure we can understand and learn from it.

    Just to say, right now I see a huge sh!tstorm and we are right in the middle of it, then when you say "belly of the beast", I do say have your knife ready to open up that belly and walk out of it, because you still alive and pretty much conscious of your situation.

    Cheer up and keep going, perhaps try new things, I left big cities a good while ago, could not live under that sort of pointless stupidity that just build up pressure with time.

    All the best!
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    A little levity re beauty being on trial and kids. Just a few mins long:


    Doug I can go long periods of time without intimacy as well. Yes, even hugs. And when I do even the slightest touch will make me jump 10 feet into the air. Even if someone just brushes against me in a crowd, I'll react. I haven't worked out the psychology. I just prefer my own company most of the time. And then, when I want some company I'll experience a flourish of intimacy before quickly not caring about it anymore and going back into my shell. Go figure. Maybe it's like you said - too much awkwardness out there atm and the effort hardly seems worth it

    You know what will change your view in a heartbeat? Just a hug. One warm hug from the right woman. Your faith will be restored in an instant. All that ice will melt. Just wait. And when it happens make sure to come back here and let everyone know how right I was..because I love being right.
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    Doug, I don't mean to proselytize, but when I have feelings like those you describe (and I have ), I take refuge in the teachings of Buddhism.

    They are the four noble truths of the reality of suffering, the cause of suffering, the cessation of suffering and the path to the cessation of suffering.
    ( I am quoting liberally from this webpage: https://www.lionsroar.com/what-is-su...hers-weigh-in/
    ...which features teachings from many different present day sources, and there is much more of value at that link.)

    According to Buddhism, we living beings are trapped in the cycles of existence known as samsara.
    In samsara, we wander aimlessly and experience unbearable suffering—day and night, year after year, life after life—because of the tight grip of our grasping at self.
    In order to heal this disease-like condition, first we have to find its cause, and then we apply the medicine-like path of training to restore our original good health, which is enlightenment.

    The Buddha said, “All I teach is suffering and the end of suffering.”
    Suffering in his teaching does not necessarily mean grave physical pain, but rather the mental suffering we undergo when our tendency to hold onto pleasure encounters the fleeting nature of life, and our experiences become unsatisfying and ungovernable.

    Dukkha, or suffering is the psychological experience—sometimes conscious, sometimes not—of the profound fact that everything is impermanent, ungraspable, and not really knowable.
    On some level, we all understand this.
    All the things we have, we know we don’t really have.
    All the things we see, we’re not entirely seeing.
    This is the nature of things, yet we think the opposite.
    We think that we can know and possess our lives, our loves, our identities, and even our possessions.
    We can’t.
    The gap between the reality and the basic human approach to life is dukkha, an experience of basic anxiety or frustration.

    On some level, we understand this, yet we resist it.

    But when we acknowledge that and we realize that all beings are subject to suffering; that it is inescapable, however much it may vary in degree....
    It is possible then to have compassion for others caught in the same web.
    But that is only one step on the journey to freedom from suffering.

    When we understand that our real Self is not the illusory self we identify with in our day to day life, we can also recognize that what we deeply yearn for is a return to the pure, unfettered Consciousness that is our true, original state
    Even just a taste of that reminds us that it is what we are at heart, though we must relinquish attachment to all the impediments that bind us to material existence before we can realize it fully.

    And once you reach the seemingly perilous threshold when that begins to become possible, it is not a time to mourn, but to rejoice!
    Each breath a gift...
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    Default Re: I hate people. Adults, that is.

    Dear Doug

    there is a spark of Divinity within us that remains whether we connect to it or not. most of us play a game of "now and then" and fail to notice that the closer we are to it? the closer to bliss that we feel and the further apart we are from it? the father away from bliss that we feel

    and who is making the choice in either direction?

    i really like you and can feel the sensitivity in your heart. your compassion, your generosity in sharing your gifts with mankind .. .but as an empath (which you are) the one entrusted to guard over yourself? is you

    it is up to you to set boundaries to those who would engage you just to run you round in circles for no other purpose than their amusement. i remember stepping in once as i saw the game about to ensue, with your thread as its selected "target" and you said, "no, i'll allow it" ... i immediately withdrew ... it wasn't much later you wrote of feeling not so happy

    i doubt you saw the connection i did

    but the fact is that if we play in the mud? we are going to get muddy. it isn't a punishment it is a natural consequence of the choices we make. i remember being in my late 20's and people at that time complaining how they were not happy

    i was amazed ... you know the whole "White privilege" thing people talk about? i guess i was asleep or absent when they passed it out. because i don't remember a time in my life EVER feeling "entitled" to anything

    anyway, people around me were complaining about not being happy. and though you all might find this surprising? sometime after my stabbing? there is a part of me that became a little child like, a little innocent. it is a secret because i don't need it taken advantage of ... but its true, plus it balances me out when not in "serious life stuff" mode (just think Drew Barrymore if you met me on the street)

    so .. i looked at them in wonder. like seriously, because i thought maybe they might be special in some way that no one had told me about yet ... i mean there MUST be a reason WHY they thought they SHOULD be happy. so i did what i do when in situations like that. i keep my mouth shut and just observe thinking maybe that way i can figure it out

    but nothing ... there was NO reason, no cause, no "special" designation they had that was the reason behind their complaint.

    so finally i just asked. "But WHY is it that you expect to be happy?
    (this is a true story by the way, not an example or analogy)

    you should have seen the looks they gave me ... but seriously! if there was some deal i wasn't in on, i'd really like to know

    so i continued "i mean is there a reason? have you done something that made you think this would be the outcome?"

    it really was getting worse, but now it was ME that started to get annoyed with them, so i continued

    "ok ... just tell me. what have you done the past week, the past month, the past year, that made you think happiness should just fall down from the sky upon you?, cause i haven't lived long ... but i've read plenty ... and i've never heard of such a thing! so what exactly is your expectation and complaint based upon?"

    and before MY good mood would drop any further? i left. to go pick up my friend and give her a ride to get for a job interview, which she got and hugged and kissed me! then i went to this lady's house, that was in a wheel chair but loved flowers, so i had promised her i'd stop by to pull some weeds. i wasn't very good at gardening, but i could at least do that and follow other simple instructions.... and i liked praying while i did it

    by the way, i have determined that what most people call meditating? is what i call praying ... i'm not like talking or making petitions, its more of a reaching up to connect and just maintaining that connection.

    anyway, a good hour of THAT and it was like impossible NOT to be in a great mood! especially when my little friend, i started to call "mama" smiled .. .she had the most beautiful smile and pretty blue eyes that just shone when she smiled ... and i loved her til i lost her about a decade later.

    then i just "felt" my way throughout the rest of that day, the rest of the week, the rest of the month, the rest of my life ...

    and as i "connected" and acted on the impulses i felt? my life was full of synchronicities .. and from two major choices that i made completely in defiance of THAT? i paid ... man i paid ... heck, i am still recovering from thinking i knew what was best for me and would make me happy in direct contradiction to what i was feeling ... to what i knew but was dead set on ignoring ...

    and here is the point in all of this.. .i'm not any special ... not any more than you or anyone else ... the same connection and state of bliss is available for ANYONE. as is the choice to cut ourselves off from the spark .. for the billions of reasons that people do ...

    ok ...

    well within our rights to do so, but not able then to access what WAS possible had we made a different choice nor to escape the natural consequences of the choices we make

    the great news is that i've never known anyone to find any degree of AUTHENTIC joy with anything external. no one, for any sustained period of time

    the reason, this is good news, is because the key to happiness is NOT "out there", but within. so no extra tools necessary or acquisition of something we don't yet have.

    i was pretty lucky in marrying my soulmate, love at first sight long list of good stuff. BUT i paid a price for it as it was my "test" and not the path meant for me.

    in case, i doubted that, as though i didn't know darned well the feeling in my tummy warning me? and the absence of the warm peace and calm that is the signature of the Divine? .. THREE Strangers ... years apart ... in different cities ... ALL said to me in almost the exact ... scratch the "almost" .. .it was said to me in the EXACT words:

    "the person you are with? is NOT the one you are supposed to be with"

    the first time? he was standing right next to me. i promptly ignored and walked away.

    but back to people. they will do as they will do. THAT isn't the problem. the issues arise in the "meaning" that we assign their actions. mine used to like ... LOVE to "mess with me"

    but it wasn't so much fun when i flipped the script. so when entering and finding me calmly let's say on computer? i'd glance up and smile and continue with what i was doing ... so ... need for attention would change to demand for attention.

    at which point (around 2009 so ... about 22 yrs later) i'd say ... "sweetie? looks like you've made the choice to be upset and you would like for me to join you ... but i've had such a great day all day! i really don't feel like changing gears right now .. maybe later, ok?"

    oh boy ... jeez!

    so then, i'd get up ... cuz there was no getting any quiet now ... and ask

    "so this choice your making? is there a timeline on it? like you think an hour? or maybe two? cus i have a few errands to run i can get done in an hour, or if you'll be longer more like two? i promised D. (best friend) we'd go see the new movie that just came out ... and that would even give you a little longer"

    by now? it was a point of mastery ... that someone had decided to take me out of my good mood, just because he felt like it and i had ALLOWED it to be done for a couple of decades ... but now, i didn't think i would continue doing that anymore ... and so i didn't.

    and he was really great to offer me about eight years more of practice .. he was generously persistent in that way ...

    i don't know if you can find any gems in here .. but they're there ... just for some reason, though i would love lessons to be had over a cup of coffee or by reading some book?

    the preferred lesson to learn "Swimming" doesn't ever seem to be in a nice clear pool of water with floaties and a nice coach giving directions

    Source's way ... is a bit ... um ... effective ...let's call it effective

    for me? it would be to be thrown in a pool of mud ... and just figure it out. i'd either start thrashing about as i instinctively would just KNOW if my head went below the mud? i'd probably not survive. so ... my choice would be ... figure it out, learn to swim or die ...

    and that is just about the truth of it. but i will say this. once i mastered "Swimming in a pool of mud" .... i had such a mastery in that area that no one with floaties and their nice safety cushion and swimming instructor in clear water seemed to attain.

    from that point? i could swim in anything ... so ... not a big fan of the method ... but must concede its effectiveness.

    swim my sweet Doug ... swim ... i believe in you! i KNOW you can!!

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    no one out in the world, in my daily life would ever know I would think or say what I have said here. i live a full happy interactive life with everyone, im kind open , loving and very social with a smile for everyone.

    i share this with my family here only. this family who understand this is not the totality of me, or of anyone who feels the same for that matter.
    all of you who have responded, I thank you, It is appreciated. and I assure you i have visited each and every thought and comment many time before as well as what was stated now.
    years of creating paintings as well as writing my musical have given me ample time for thought and reflection, and deep study into the fringe and dark truth of people. no not all people, of course not. but lets just say, things are not what they appear to be.

    we are all a bunch of things, its just a matter of degree. some people can live easier with lies and deception, I cannot, but in society we all must do so to some degree.

    perhaps my post here will be disturbing to some, and perhaps liberating for others, knowing we are pretty much all the same, Im fine with whatever

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    Dear Doug,
    I hear you, I have no advice just a warm embrace.

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    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    no one out in the world, in my daily life would ever know I would think or say what I have said here. i live a full happy interactive life with everyone, im kind open , loving and very social with a smile for everyone.

    i share this with my family here only. this family who understand this is not the totality of me, or of anyone who feels the same for that matter.
    all of you who have responded, I thank you, It is appreciated. and I assure you i have visited each and every thought and comment many time before as well as what was stated now.
    years of creating paintings as well as writing my musical have given me ample time for thought and reflection, and deep study into the fringe and dark truth of people. no not all people, of course not. but lets just say, things are not what they appear to be.

    we are all a bunch of things, its just a matter of degree. some people can live easier with lies and deception, I cannot, but in society we all must do so to some degree.

    perhaps my post here will be disturbing to some, and perhaps liberating for others, knowing we are pretty much all the same, Im fine with whatever
    dear Doug

    i'm sorry, i forgot to thank you for your generosity and trust in sharing with us authentically from your heart. i doubt there are any of us who can't relate. sometimes it helps just to know others have felt it too and a light at the end is possible when we can't see it for a little bit. please know my words are meant to convey "you got this!" cuz i just know you do!

    i just went through a really long period of sadness from a loss that occurred every bit as splitting my heart and soul into a million pieces i couldn't see how i could possibly be put back together ...

    every day i'm still here still both surprises me, shocks me, amazes me and still other days upsets me

    we all have our version and you were very kind to share yours with us! i'm sure it is touching everyone ... thank you again! it takes real courage to speak from one's heart.



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    Iota/ many thanks. Im sorry to hear that. You have also put your truth out to all of us in your recent post. Many thanks again, and to everyone here, we are all fractals of each other and we can all relate to each others experiences.

    An old Werner Erhardt saying, resistance causes persistence. Sometime we just need to let all go and stop lying to ourselves. Theres the person I want to, or wish to be, and then the real me for better or worse.

    none of us as children planned on coming to such a conclusion years later . by speaking something, you make it real , it's how you shed a skin and grow. by telling the truth . it's not so bad

    thank you all

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    I think a good reason why people lie so much is because one of our humans greatest weaknesses is to admit when we are wrong. They will lie and manipulate just to not confront that short bad feeling after admitting or realizing that we/they were wrong.
    It is a enormous factor in our lives mixed with fear and especially nowadays the people in charge of the world exploit it to achieve their goals.
    We tend to run away from problems or bury them instead of facing them till they catch up on us. We start doing it in childhood, then we eventually learn it only backfires. Some learn but some don't. This is, I believe, why many adults act the way they do. We must remind the people that it is okay to be wrong. And we must not get lost in all this, because there is so many, many of them.

    Anyways, don't feel down my friend. Last couple of weeks have been especially hard. It is part of the game plan. There is still some space left in the balloon to push air into before it explodes. There must be good people out there, waiting for the right moment to strike. The world is waking up on a scale like never before in known human history, or at least known history. So we have to be strong and do our part.

    Stay positive my friend. For the children!

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    Lightbulb Re: I hate people. Adults, that is.

    • Maybe this "P.A. group therapy session" helps, key is living in brutal self-honesty and find others who can mirror that doug:
    So let me start:

    I (really) do not "hate" people. Adults, that is, but:

    01. I do despise most adult people.
    02. I look down at most adult people (I wish I didn't).
    03. I distance myself from most adult people (which is not "fun" to do).
    04. I totally feel disconnected with most adult people.
    05. I can not relate to most adult people.
    06. I find most adult people repulsive.
    07. I see that the stupidity of most adult people seems endless.
    08. I chose to avoid most (stupid) adult people.
    09. I try not to judge (assumed) stupid adult people, but it is very hard when they are wilful ignorant by choice ... and judge me for not doing what they are doing.
    10. I sense super fast misleading/deceptive collectivism (group think) of all kinds in most adult people repeating the status quo narratives which is worse than most horror movies!
    11. and I can go on and on and on and on .... up to 100 describing most "adult people".

    Because I know I am always more than my physical body (like everybody else is) and am always more than all my thoughts past, present & future combined! ... Am totally aware we all are "spiritually tested" in what we do ... how we do it ... and above all: if I am able to let go of anything that does not belong to my own "spiritual journey".

    This awareness is very confrontational to me ... knowing exactly how things work and why ... and even then, I still can do things I rather did not ... So the wiser & more honest you become does not guarantee that it makes you "more happy" ... As real happiness does not require "approval" from anyone even not from yourself ... it is just a state of mind that is genuine appreciation of little things most take for granted!

    Am also aware that part of them act dumb, "play along" but are actually on my level not wanting to stand out, or to get noticed! ... Those people could be called "cowards" or being in a (temporary?) state of fear losing jobs to provide for their family!

    But this psychological mechanism is exactly why any tyranny can do what they do and (mostly) get away with it if we let them!



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    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    I hate people. Adults to be specific. I have come to a point of my life where I have observed enough. People are cunning , strategic and dishonest at best, and ruthless and evil at their worst . And it's all getting worse.

    Adults are liars and manipulative, in order to get what they want. Anyone surprised?

    I love children. And help yourself perverts to what I will say, as you are in the category I mention above.

    Children like animals are loving, expecting, forgiving , hopeful and beautifully innocent.
    And baby animals, like baby children, are perfect. They are all looking towards us adults to protect , guide and save them. And god damn those who don't!

    I resent I cannot admire the beauty of children in public . I resent beauty is now on trial . I resent Im being asked to lie about everything.
    I am not racist. If I am , everyone is. Tribes have been around since day one we humans arrived, destroying each other for resources , food, water, fire, women and so on. Pure survival, so pure racism Not my plan.

    So all people are tribal, meaning racist in todays manipulative and dishonest moment we live designed to divide and make money. Money the root of all ****ing evil for sure. .

    I haven't had a hug from a women or a love relationship in close to 10 years. Yes, sorry Im a boring and predictable non sensational or newsworthy heterosexual .
    I hate how sex identity has been made into such a dividing thing .Its as if its the only identity a person has? IM LGBTQRSTUVW, and I demand.... **** you, stop leading with you sex organs. No one ****ing cares!

    It's a no win situation because everyone is “ actualized” . All brainwashed they need to win, be on top, don't yield rather than harmonize or compliment. Anyone happy as you google the answers?
    Everyone desperately working out , treadmills, pumping and Pilates , all to loneliness, holding on to what is only fleeting and will eventually pass.
    Have never seen more young women alone in packs at restaurants. 10 at a table. Without an attorney, no man dare approach.

    Im just a little person, A meaningless person, yet I know my words resonate with many.

    Im already very ready to die now, to die off and make room for these liars, these thieves of spirit and truth trying to inherit the planet.
    Perhaps I know nothing and Im an idiot? I don't know, and it doesn't matter.

    Look around friends, 2022, going to be very hard.
    I totally understand this. I chose to not make any attempt to spend time with my few relatives that will have anything to do with me for my own mental health this year. My son was invited to my house, I will enjoy seeing him if he comes although he is a very angry young man. I understand why he is angry. He see's this world from the perspective of a young white male in the US, one that didn't get totally indoctrinated.

    I'm not interested in faking anything, in keeping my mouth shut, in listening to the programming. I am not angry, no bitter feelings, just don't want to do it. I am pretty sure they are very relieved so they can go back to the all vaccinated group and it is way less messy without me. This process is seeming to evolve organically for me. If I ran into someone I could have a genuine conversation with that might change, but I will have to run into them when walking the dogs as I am not looking for anyone.

    I have no yearning for company, I have people on this forum I understand and maybe a few get me. I have my dogs and a place to sleep. I am very grateful for that. I have a connection with the natural world and the creator.

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    Maybe I can say a few words that are similar to what Doug is feelng here.

    The more we expand our awareness here and shine brighter, the degree of darkness, delusion, ignorance selfishness, etc. becomes greatly enhanced. Average people are ignoring A LOT, because its much easier.

    I feel the same struggle to not want to be around any of it anymore and im younger than Doug. On bad days, you want to just go around smacking everybody, like the movie Ground hogs Day. lol I think of it as a ferries wheel. Up and downs of life round and round we go, first it is very exciting, then eventually it wears off. By the end we are yelling for the damn guy to stop the wheel and let us off, but no he wont do that. Like that scariest 8 hr haunted house in california, there are no quit words. lol

    You must keep going until you work thru the suffering somehow and quit internally instead of the game quitting on you. Everyone will eventually get to this point in this life or the next. You can't talk to others who aren't at the puking stage yet, cuz they will just tell you to be happy, life is great bla bla. It doesn't work like that for people at the end of the road, desperate to get off.

    I doubt its even possible to go thru such transition end stages without immense frustration at times. This leads to urges to want to take that out on the others who are acting crappy and doing the most to keep us all in this 'escape room.' I've decided its not a prison, but escape room seems pretty accurate. Free will to enter the game, but good luck getting out of the labyrinth with everyone and their security brothers trying to keep us in.

    Im stuck too wasting many of my good years living an unexciting life that I want and also alone. Its almost impossible for me to give up all my desires even though i have a lot less than others. To have a romantic partner who is like us on this forum has been like finding a unicorn for me. I dont even want to think of how I will feel if I finally find her when im like 70 and sexual drive is probably pretty much dead.

    The only solution is for me to get more serious in my training. Meditation and other health regimans to perfect my energy. This leads to astral travel, so at least then I get a 2nd life to make up for what i cant experience here. I met a young disabled kid once that couldnt do much other than play video games. I now kinda regret telling him that there is another way. This life can be part-time and more bearable if we find a way to become active in the astral realm.

    So, I feel Doug's pain and am tired of having only wonderful like minded virtual friends so far away. I just can't understand why the universe won't allow me to have a group of these people that I can call up and meet up on a thursday evening or whatever. Is isolation some kind of test for me now? I just wish i knew if there was some specific thing i need to accomplish in order to change things or have a more interesting life. I certainly can't find any like minds to team up with and make something happen. Or else some psychic who could tell me when some big change will happen. It might make it easier to bear all the unbearable people in this world and the annoying media and political/business worlds.

    Sorry, I have no answers

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    Quote Posted by Harmony (here)
    I understand what you are saying Doug. A sensitive aware person cannot ignore what is happening around the world. rgray222 is right, even though you can't see the good people of this world, we are here, feel your pain, and care. That's important to remember.
    Yes thepainterdoug I hear/fell what you are saying but not all are lost in the ways you mentioned.
    It really shows up to me while driving around South West LONDON, most drivers are out for themselves and just seem to wan't to get past you at all costs.

    I need to get out and away from London, it has been ramping up so much over the last 10 years

    But having said that, I still come across some lovely. considerate people out there, they exist

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    • Maybe this "P.A. group therapy session" helps, key is living in brutal self-honesty and find others who can mirror that doug:
    So let me start:

    I (really) do not "hate" people. Adults, that is, but:

    01. I do despise most adult people.
    02. I look down at most adult people (I wish I didn't).
    03. I distance myself from most adult people (which is not "fun" to do).
    04. I totally feel disconnected with most adult people.
    05. I can not relate to most adult people.
    06. I find most adult people repulsive.
    07. I see that the stupidity of most adult people seems endless.
    08. I chose to avoid most (stupid) adult people.
    09. I try not to judge (assumed) stupid adult people, but it is very hard when they are wilful ignorant by choice and judge me for not doing what they are doing.
    10. I sense super fast misleading/deceptive collectivism (group think) of all kinds in most adult people repeating the status quo narratives which is worse than most horror movies!
    11. and I can go on and on and on and on .... up to 100 describing most "adult people".

    Because I know I am always more than my physical body (like everybody else is) and am always more than all my thoughts past, present & future combined! ... Am totally aware we all are "spiritually tested" in what we do ... how we do it ... and above all: if I am able to let go of anything that does not belong to my own "spiritual journey".

    This awareness is very confrontational to me ... knowing exactly how things work and why ... and even then, I still can do things I rather did not ... So the wiser & more honest you become does not guarantee that it makes you "more happy" ... As real happiness does not require "approval" from anyone even not from yourself ... it is just a state of mind that is genuine appreciation of little things most take for granted!

    Am also aware that part of them act dumb, "play along" but are actually on my level not wanting to stand out, or to get noticed! ... Those people could be called "cowards" or being in a (temporary?) state of fear losing jobs to provide for their family!

    But this psychological mechanism is exactly why tyranny can do what they do and (mostly) get away with it if we let them!



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