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    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    JOE 1964, the lord works in mysterious ways! Thank you so much for that. Thats why I just try to remain true to myself, acceptabe or not, with agreement or not.
    By just being real, we give others an honest barometer in wich to evaluate themselves. were all in this together anyhow.

    Vangelo, thats an amazing summation of this interchange. you spoke for us all I believe.

    blessings all
    Doug, by expressing your true self - fears, vulnerability, 'flaws' as you term them, you are giving a priceless gift to humanity: you are allowing us, in turn, to be our authentic 'flawed' (no such thing, really) selves. We all wear our masks, but by dropping them, our humanity shines through and we can drop the falseness which makes up our daily life, and allow others to do the same. A Humungous Hug from me 😊

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    I live with the mindset that I will listen to the misery of those who wish to live in that state, but I do not give them real estate in my mind or life, as much as possible... I know who I am, know that I am a happy and loving person, and truly when I encounter those who are miserable and share it as if it is some "Gift", I try to get away from them as quickly as possible.

    Many seem to be finding themselves repulsed by others these days, their actions, lack of ability to reason, or even educate themselves before trying to shove down your throat their beliefs, etc... And I find it sad...

    But there is one thing we do have control over. The amount of energy we give to these people. We don't lift them up, they LIKE being who they are, believing they know it all, and they are wiser about anything and everything. We can strip them of the positive energy they seem to steal from us. We can stop giving them free real estate in our minds... and pulling us into that same condition. Which can happen quite easily... Especially those who usually cannot get a rise out of you, as they tend to wrench up the shock factor of their negative behaviors in order to get some kind of reaction out of you.

    Today is Thanksgiving. I am going to my sons, where his wife's family as well as my husbands will all be gathering. Currently I am having issues with one of these negative energy thieves. I will smile, and act like I do not recognize that they're miserable, and allow them to make fools of themselves, and do my very best to not let their negative behaviors affect my wonderful and loving day. Because THAT is within my control.

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    Hi Painter Doug and everyone, and thanks for all the great observations.
    I have been feeling really down and alone too, more than ever feeling like a stranger in a strange land. Out camping a few days ago, the camp hosts arranged a get-together at 5pm for a communal fireside chat and drinks. I went over to join in and the conversation quickly turned to condemning people who have not been "doing the right thing" (getting vaxxed) and discussing scenarios such as where a hospital has to decide IF or when to treat someone who is injured but not vaxxed. Ok, these people have previously been interacting with me like a fellow human being, but actually I am not. Yeah I hate adults too sometimes, their stupidity and herd behaviour. Actually I am less angry than profoundly sad. Perhaps this is the price for facing reality.

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    Quote Posted by Violet3 (here)
    Ok, these people have previously been interacting with me like a fellow human being, but actually I am not. Yeah I hate adults too sometimes, their stupidity and herd behaviour. Actually I am less angry than profoundly sad. Perhaps this is the price for facing reality.
    Try not to judge them too harshly. Often I have to remind myself of this too. I try to remember that these people are not bad people. They do not speak from their heart, only their heads. When their heads are filled with misinformation (or disinformation), they proceed from a place of ignorance. Yes, it is sad that many are beginning to lose touch with the heart-centred self, by making sweeping judgements and dehumanizing others. But I trust that in time they will rediscover it as the awakening process continues to spread.
    "When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace."
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    A bit of a gear shift here. But from personal experience, I can vouch for everything this guest has to say in a short 14 minutes. If used properly, psychedelics can truly aid one in experiencing life, the universe, and their proper place in it through a whole new lens.

    Not a recommendation, just food for thought:

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    THANKS GRACIE! Perfect time to interject this. i will watch.

    I watched. I was wondering if you posted this because you were suggesting this as a remedy for me?
    I did experience the best quality lsd in my early 20ies. about 20 times. then mushrooms and lastly salvia divinorum.
    yes, all these reset your thinking and perception of reality. in fact, I feel I could use another visit.
    But none of these experiences will change the human traffiking, the pedo, child slave reality, the violence and cruelty and control of our adult humans towards each other.

    It will however, alter the way I react to it ,and im not sure the softening and blurring of my feelings on this need altering right now.
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    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    THANKS GRACIE! Perfect time to interject this. i will watch.

    I watched. I was wondering if you posted this because you were suggesting this as a remedy for me?
    Like I said Doug, food for thought. Yes the idea was aimed at you my friend, because I feel your pain and desperation so deeply you'll never know.

    As the first line of this great tune goes: "This one goes out to the one I love".

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    Hey Gracie, well thanks . Thats really very sweet of you.
    If you feel my pain its because you feel your pain on the very topic. We all do. All of us here who replied to my post feel what I said.

    I feel fine with what I said. I said it and then I move on.

    Desperation ? not so much. I dont feel desperation, maybe exhaustion, depletion disgust and disappointment .

    Can I be happy and ignore all going on arond me, the times we are living? No dont think so.
    I feel like a person rationalizing the situation in Germany 1939

    thanks Gracie. I dont at all mean to minimize the message of love you sent me, and I may re visit the lady Salvia

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    I went through stage years ago when I read everything I could find by Native American Shamans and one of them ("Rolling Thunder Speaks") mentioned that thoughts are real things. That stuck out to me and rings true still. That same book showed me how prayerful outreach to the Creator can do wonders. The Shamans were the Spiritual leaders of these peoples and one attribute they commonly had was intuitive ability. They lived in two worlds. The spirit and the material. I couldn't get enough of this reading material and now I see why.

    So what role does the Spirit world play in today's world? If we could all see in two worlds, what would we be seeing? When we see adults behaving badly, what is the spiritual component of that? The holy men with intuitive reach saw the root of things. Many times they'd see Spirit attachments on people's chakras. Causing all manner of problems for their victims. Pushing them sometimes to madness even. Or rash acts they would never do otherwise.

    Until this largely unexplored realm is probed, we'll be chasing our tails and each other.
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    Maybe there is a good reason most compassionate Souls are made to forget what they have experienced in past lives ... then when being send back here on Earth knowing so much does not feel right about so many things ... as if we are drawn (or made to go) to traumatic events paralyzing us again and again ... or finally do something completely different.

    Imagine having to run away from confrontations so many times ... is the reason why we are here over and over ... until we face our true reason why we are here and that is not to be afraid anymore ... this is how I see it ... we all are being tested how we cope and how we face our inner & outer demons.

    Am totally fed up with the cowardliness of most sheeple (on all levels) unable to face tyranny but at the same time I truly feel (like any other good empath) WHY people do what they do ... easily forgive and know why people act in a certain way ... But there is also anger we let ourselves down .... The pain runs much deeper ... I also sense betrayal on a large scale on both sides (good guys and bad guys) ... How it eventually plays out depends in how unpredictable and surprising the resistance will be ... Something the Almighty A.I. never see coming.

    If I would asses the whole "humanity game template" ... it seems they study us what we really are all about ... it must be: "the battle of consent" ... to manipulate Souls in such a way to give up free will & free choice for "safety" & "security" ... If any of us can go beyond the "human game parameters" it must be letting go of fear and never giving consent ... as most will know it will only lead to more and more automated tyranny! >>> where we all get "micro-managed" and policed by fellow slaves.

    There must be a way that is totally overlooked by the "overlords" the elite parasites.

    The controllers ... the psychopathic liars feeding upon "victim mentality" ... The human condition is connected to a chain-reactions of events leading up to losing everything unless some of us can break this spell ... break the conditioning ... I feel we have something special they fear the most ... this will come to surface soon enough.

    It is super obvious how most perceive reality now is totally hijacked by control freaks hoping we have no clue what is really going on ... And if you do ... they assume you will be called names & get demonized by default >>> where the slaves attack other slaves and visa versa.

    To me it is not about seeking the classical way of unity but rather appreciate different autonomous tactics exposing the rising tyranny in all its forms.

    This new kind of unity against tyranny will be so much bigger but I think most can not see it yet ... most will not be aware how huge the resistance to tyranny really is ... it is so much bigger than anyone in mainstream will admit.

    There will be a day that a new kind of unity against the rising tyranny is known to all.

    I can feel that energy right now ... That is why I never ever give up ... There is this connection with my personal destiny like a feedback time-loop. I receive the sorrow & pain of the future but I must guard not to absorb too much of it as there are many other time-lines reserved to go beyond all that ... So why do so many suffer in this time-line? ... What is the real reason we are here?

    There are some basic wisdoms & insights how to transform (or break) this victim paradigm loop! ...and the weird part is that most already know what these insights are.



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    Quote ExomatrixTV: How it eventually will play out depends in how unpredictable we are ... Something the All Mighty A.I. never see coming.
    [...]
    This new kind of unity against tyranny will be so much bigger but I think most can not see it yet ... most will not be aware how huge the resistance to tyranny really is ... it is so much bigger than anyone in mainstream will admit.
    There will be a day that a new kind of unity against the rising tyranny is known to all.I can feel that energy right now ... That is why I never ever give up...
    Awesome post John. My thoughts exactly.

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    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    I feel I could use another visit.
    Look to Spirit Doug, not drugs. These may temporarily lift you, but they'll scramble your energy and make the struggle more difficult in the longer term. Drugs do not alleviate mental disharmony. In this world they are a leading cause of it, and will only make things worse.
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    love or hate, what is the difference? Did one generate from the other.
    what I want or what I am.

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    star mariner. yes thanks. im in spirit all day every day. i have conversations with god, guardian angels, my deceased parents and so on.
    hate and love, all these emotions are real and true. there is nothing to fix here with this, only expressed, not resisted.

    to pretend i dont hate is similar to saying i do love, when i really dont. we have an entire woke culture that lead with love, but sure feels like hate to me.

    being spiritual, doent mean you dont feel these human emotions. its just a matter of if you want to be honest about them

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    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    ... we have an entire woke culture that lead with love, but sure feels like hate to me. ... being spiritual, doent mean you dont feel these human emotions. its just a matter of if you want to be honest about them
    Isn't that the unfortunate truth. The amazing thing is they are so unaware...

    I believe you nailed it. This concept is at the heart of the problem. Specifically, the belief that some emotions are 'good' and others are 'bad'. The desire to only live within the 'good' emotions is both naive and self-defeating.

    I don't believe some emotions are good and others are bad. I believe a full and meaningful life is one where we are able to embrace all human emotions and live consciously within them.

    I see each emotion as existing only when it is paired with its equal and opposite emotion. Happy and sad are the easiest emotions to think of in this way. You can't have happy without sad nor can you have sad without happy. They define each other. I literally visualize happy and sad as existing within a spectrum where pure happiness is at one end of the spectrum and the depths of sadness exist on the other end of the spectrum. At each and every moment of the day I am at a specific spot along that happy/sad spectrum. As the day progresses and I begin to feel happier for some reason, I move along that spectrum closer to the happy extreme. If on the other hand things go poorly I will often feel more sad and move closer toward the sad end of the spectrum.

    This idea of emotions existing only when paired with its equal and opposite emotion means I can only define how I feel regarding an emotion when I contrast it against its opposite. I need both to understand and value each.

    The other critical concept is that human beings have emotions because they server a very real and valuable purpose. I have just described one purpose in the preceding paragraphs but there is another more important purpose for each emotion. That is our emotions tell us something about our place in the world and motivate us to act. Fear for instance, is thought of as a 'bad' emotion. I totally disagree. It is the emotion that tells me to be more cautious, alert and resolute. This is what keeps me alive. Anger often motivates me to confront and take action against something. Anger gives me the strength to fight back rather than cower.

    I believe we need each and every emotion. Learning to embrace them all will give us a more complete and fulfilling life with more meaningful relationships.
    Happiness comes from within, nowhere else.

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    Quote Posted by lizhekb (here)
    love or hate, what is the difference? Did one generate from the other.
    “Love is the absence of fear ... as evil is the absence of love.”
    Hate consumes own spiritual energy (burns eventually itself out) ... also a sign of total incompetence to go beyond it ... not knowing how to transform it >>> that is self-hate as well ... some forms of hate & anger is/are actually (ignoring) extreme sadness & sorrow!

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    Quote Posted by lizhekb (here)
    love or hate, what is the difference? Did one generate from the other.
    I never buy that hate is the opposite to love ...

    you see, when you hate someone or something it is because you have a relate to someone or something...

    you desire/want/need/wish/demand/expect something from it...

    you hate your ex, boss, job ,media, government, politicians, people, whatever because don't fulfill your expectations and /or your needs...you have an attach to they/it.



    How about this: the opposite from love is...wait for it..............INDIFFERENCE !!!


    not matter what they /it do, say, proclaim, declare, actions, forbid or approve matter to you !

    they/it are invisible to you, they/ it can drop death in front of you , and you are like ...uh? so what!

    I wear a trench coat where all bullsh!t don't permeate...

    I draw my red line and that's it!

    I know, it is a hard training to it ! but than you are Buda like...

    I never buy "turn the other chick"," embrace your enemy ", "all is love and flower power plus syrup, honey and milk..."

    not in this world, maybe somewhere else...

    I learned the hard way, like everyone else...
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    Thumbs up Re: I hate people. Adults, that is.

    I wonder how many Project Avalon Forum threads focuses on the subject "hate & hating" without sliding in to predictable clichés & platitudes ... so it is about time we finally did this thanks to @thepainterdoug

    ... as most may shy away of this topic for so many reasons ...

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    Default Re: I hate people. Adults, that is.

    Again I thank you all for your varying input and take on all this.so many great comments and observations i understand my post may be touchy to some, but we are always being beaten over the head with Namaste, peace, love and be like this or that.

    But truth is something else , and what I am interested in. what I said in my post doesnt mean I walk around actualizing my hate towards others. its quite the opposite, Im known by most as the nicest kindest guy in the world, no joke and no bravado here.
    I drive around with a battery charger and give people jump starts, change tires and help people out in every situation I can. I offer, dont need to be asked.

    Meanwhile the yoga mat crowd wont even give eye contact or a hello as they admire their own selves armed with the mat. Its all posturing and virtue signaling in my book. they are rude and believe they are above others. They are also scared. Grow up a holes.

    My hockey friends are more my speed becuase they are consistently real, even though they make constant fun of me.

    John K, thanks for the comment and your posts as well.

    I hope my hate speech is seen as the most loving speech i have made here

    VICUS/ indefference, so true!
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    Default Re: I hate people. Adults, that is.

    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    I hate people. Adults to be specific. I have come to a point of my life where I have observed enough. People are cunning , strategic and dishonest at best, and ruthless and evil at their worst . And it's all getting worse.

    Adults are liars and manipulative, in order to get what they want. Anyone surprised?

    I love children. And help yourself perverts to what I will say, as you are in the category I mention above.

    Children like animals are loving, expecting, forgiving , hopeful and beautifully innocent.
    And baby animals, like baby children, are perfect. They are all looking towards us adults to protect , guide and save them. And god damn those who don't!

    I resent I cannot admire the beauty of children in public . I resent beauty is now on trial . I resent Im being asked to lie about everything.
    I am not racist. If I am , everyone is. Tribes have been around since day one we humans arrived, destroying each other for resources , food, water, fire, women and so on. Pure survival, so pure racism. Its not my plan.

    So all people are tribal, meaning "racist" in todays manipulative and dishonest moment we live designed to divide and make money. Money the root of all ****ing evil for sure. .

    I haven't had a hug from a women or a love relationship in close to 10 years. Yes, sorry Im a boring and predictable non sensational or newsworthy heterosexual .
    I hate how sex identity has been made into such a dividing thing . Its as if its the only identity a person has! IM LGBTQRSTUVW, and I demand etc. F*** you, stop leading with you sex organs. No one ****ing cares!

    It's a no win situation because everyone is “ actualized” . All brainwashed, they need to win, be on top, don't yield rather than harmonize or compliment. Anyone happy as they google their answers?

    Everyone desperately working out , treadmills, pumping and Pilates , all to loneliness, holding on to what is only fleeting and will eventually pass.
    I Have never seen more young women alone in packs at restaurants, 10 at a table. Without an attorney, no man dare approach.

    Im just a little person, A meaningless person, yet I know my words resonate with many.

    Im already very ready to die now, to die off and make room for these liars, these thieves of spirit and truth trying to inherit the planet.
    Perhaps I know nothing and Im an idiot? I don't know, and it doesn't matter.

    Look around friends, 2022, going to be very hard.
    There are good people out there Doug, they need to be shown the way. Your post speaks to the level of corruption rampant in our world when left largely unchecked.

    I heard something the other day that compared our world to a vacuum. How a bit of love in a vacuum is not enough. It'll get overrun quickly. This is exactly why we need higher realm help and we need it soon. They can leverage our outreach greatly if we but ask. Secularism only contributes to this vacuum we're in. This isn't religious doctrine I'm getting into, but reality.

    The divine is our life line and with their help - requested by us - we can win. Call me naive if you want.

    Your "reality sandwich" post here speaks to this urgency, for some. For others it speaks to those who have given up already.

    All we can do is the best we know how. There's no judgment in the light.

    I see 11:11 and 1:11 daily, all the time. I don't look for it ever. Someone has to be relaying this information and in this setting it's falling to me. Course we're all puzzle pieces here just like Dougs post attempting to shake the complacency out of us. And the many other TRULY awake members' posts in this thread.
    Last edited by Tyy1907; 27th November 2021 at 19:19.
    "Without the human request, nothing will happen."

    "This must never be forgotten, that the human has the power to prevail."

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