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    Default Transhumanism & Technology versus Nature.

    Once in a while one can read something that truely "resonates" with our Inner Being.
    It is most of the time irrelevant who said it, what matters more is whàt is being said.

    What do you think about the following statements:

    . Technological progress is carrying us to inevitable disaster. …

    · Only the collapse of modern technological civilization can avert disaster. …

    · What is needed is a new revolutionary movement, dedicated to the elimination of technological society. …

    This comes from the Preface of a book, written by a certain Theodore Kaczynski.
    But he is also known by another name.

    He had come to the conclusion that our human society would perish, if "technology" would not be eliminated. He took this quite literally himself and went to live selfsufficiently in the woods of Montana.

    Some people would say he is a "madman" while others put him in the same class of writers as Huxley and Orwell. What he has written is "in line" with what is predicted in Brave New World and 1984. And with what "we are experiencing today".

    He took to violence (and is better known for thàt, more than for what he wrote).

    Kaczynski has been incarcerated since 1998 in rigorous confinement at Federal Prison ADX in Florence, Colorado, after receiving a life sentence for the long-term violent campaign he undertook to call world-wide attention to the colossal dangers inherent in technological growth.

    He's still alive today. I don't think that killing people is the best way to call attention (to anything), but his desperation of not being heard lead him to become "the Unabomber".

    Revolt against what is happening today has happened and will continue to happen. Maybe it is our moral duty to join... even if it only means agreeing inwardly and trying to live another life than "society" tries to force upon us.

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    reposting this here

    This was really great IMO. It is a deep glimpse into the modeling which we have been receiving so we will willingly deny that there is a "natural" order that is pre-existing beyond human opinion. It truly explains the underlying "satanic" religious basis to me. God does not exist and what we understand about being "human" is just a program to be changed.

    In the last couple of decades, the deliberate erosion of a role of in "the world" of "spirit" or "consciousness" or "God" or anything which is nonmaterial involved in 'life" has been instituted.

    At the end of the report, the main point is reached. There is an argument that ONLY matter exists and we are just a collection of programable bits which have no essence and no "larger context". Like all that is INVERSION, the truth that we are unique and have individual differences is deployed and twisted all around to deny the value of a "natural world".

    It makes sense to me that people like Kaczynski would underatnd the problem but IMO arrive at a wrong solution (OR be mind controled to respond to their understanding with violence?)

    This is a war of principalities and we ARE Principles with the imagining into form which we DO.

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    This isn't channeled but maybe "spiritual insight"? St Germain explaining the battle field where principalities war in the human heart

    St. Germain Explains Artificial Intelligence and the Internet

    Quote The internet was created for war by warlords with money from warlord bankers and brokers. Very quickly it was found that the interconnectedness became a platform of expanded consciousness as the military researchers at major universities were able to work together in a coordinated fashion. Innovation and effectiveness came from combining the efforts of many computers being operated by many people. Together, the unified efforts of the group became greater than the individual efforts of each university. A type of technological group think tank or group consciousness arose.

    As the technology advanced, the few lines between a small number of universities became a web of lines that needed coordinating, especially after the World Wide Web was established in Switzerland at CERN. Every person with a website could become their own university and every surfer of the web could become the ultimate researcher on whatever topic they wished to study. Eventually, countless number of websites were established for every type of business or pleasure from banking and stock markets to music and movies. Because a most hideous being was directing the growth of the internet, it soon became home to what Douglas referred to as a “weaponizing the internet” and an agent that has a most odious agenda.”

    “What is that odious agenda?” asked Tyla sitting up further on her chair.

    “Well,” sighed Christian “That is big topic.” He took another bite out of the peach and thought about where to start.

    “At the heart of the internet is a cold, dark, dissonance that is anti-life oriented and is stealing the warmth, light, harmony, and life of every user who takes for granted the higher hierarchical beings who have to sacrificed and “died into electricity” to make the electromagnetic world of electricity, radio-waves, Wi-Fi, and all other forms of electromagnetic wave propagation that is bombarding our bodies at every moment. This being has many names but the one most apt is Ahriman, the Persian demon of darkness who wars against the light of the Sun, Mazdao. Light and darkness is talked about in all religions whether as Lucifer, Prometheus, Loki or Manu. Lucifer is a good counterpoint to Ahriman. Between the light of Lucifer that has fallen from heaven, to the living darkness of Ahriman, that has given seeming life to the mineral world, the human being stands torn in a battle. Lucifer and Ahriman also work together and try to eliminate the truly human qualities that should reign over the middle realm of the heart, what we call the higher ego or the Christ.”

    “Which demon is in the internet?” Douglas asked quickly.

    “Well, both you see,” Christian answered. “Light from the sun enters humans and in the darkness of the skull we give birth to a different type of light we call consciousness. The human being is distilled light turned inward to develop consciousness separate from the light of the sun. This light is like electrostatic energy, which is everywhere and pervades the cosmos abundantly. This light creates warmth, light, chemistry (which is also called sound, atomic structure, harmony) and the last substance or ether we call life. This type of life we might also call levity because once warmth, light, and sound are available in harmony, then life can rise up to its Mother the Sun through levity. Lucifer is the bringer of light, but he tries to bring too much, too soon, or bring his own light which is selfish, non-radiant, and non-effulgent. In other words, Lucifer likes to have light, but not share it.”

    “The other being, Ahriman, can be imagined as cold and heartless, dark and heavily attached to the earth, dissonant and overwhelming and works through the forces of gravity that bring death,” Christian continued. “So you see, both Lucifer and Ahriman are behind the internet and all things electromagnetic. But we can be much more specific.”

    “Lucifer is light, like the light of electricity that “lights” up each electrical input in every device that can access the internet. Lucifer was the greatest of angels and had great knowledge, just like the internet seems to have all knowledge at the prideful fingertips of the user who googles knowledge – more knowledge than any library every held, and the knowledge is growing exponentially and overwhelming the common user. Lucifer overwhelms and bring too much, just as the internet brings you more data and knowledge than you can ever use.

    Unfortunately, Lucifer didn’t have wisdom and neither does the internet. Remember the sin of Lucifer, and then reflect on the fact that the top uses of the Internet are pornography, gambling and entertainment.

    But it is Ahriman who is the spider in the middle of the web. It was, and will always be, the warlords who control the internet, and Ahriman is the King of war, hatred, and greed which are the driving forces of the military industrial complex, the people who are now called the globalists or transnationalists. It is this group of bankers, brokers, politicians and military warlords who use the internet the most. Globalist want everything to become digitized, including all of your financial transactions, your currency, your voting, your social life, your books, knowledge, and thoughts. Eventually Ahriman will even control the Internet of Things so that humans will never know what it is like to be purely human.

    Once the Globalists have everything digitized, Ahriman, the lord of physical realm will command that realm and the internet will become his home, both figuratively and literally. Ahriman’s greatest wish is to not die. Ahriman is incarnated at this time in a physical body and will soon be the first entity to use cyber wet works to directly link his brain with the internet.”

    “Will Ahriman have a physical body?” Tyla asked.

    “Yes, he will and in the end it will be the author of his death. Humans and machines should not cross over their independent territories. We have enough problems with mad-scientists blending DNA from plant to animals and from animals to human. These aberrations of nature create monsters. Ahriman’s predecessors prepared the way for his incarnation by bending minerals until they took on plant characteristics. Integrated circuits are silica, a mineral, blended with metals and electricity to become a plant-like organization that simulates life and grows like a plant. When woven together with other minerals that have seemingly been given “life,” scientists have created a new kingdom of nature that is in fact a type of Frankenstein monster that is now unfortunately out of control like a huge world-wide living mineral kingdom that displays the intelligence of the gnomes – who were well-known for be able to take metals and minerals and fashion them into magical objects.

    The unlimited and instantaneous cleverness of the gnomes is inherent in the substances used to make our modern electrical world (wires, transistors, integrated circuits, processors, memory chips and the like). Then, when you unconsciously and wickedly add to the mineral kingdom the realm of electrical devices that seem to grow like a weed out of control, you have the monster of the internet that wishes to basically eat warmth, light, harmony, and the life of the unconscious user.”

    “Are you saying that the Department of Defense consciously created this new demon kingdom?” Tyla asked for deeper understanding.

    “Humans didn’t create it consciously,” Christian said. “It grew into the monster because everything the warlords touch turns to evil. They did not know what they were creating and only now are beginning to understand its usefulness. Facebook, for example, was developed by DARPA and the Department of Defense to study the behavior of people online so that the warlords could learn ways to control people through the internet.”

    “Is the collective internet Ahriman, or is he a separate artificial intelligence,” Douglas queried.

    “Ahriman is a fallen spirit like Lucifer who incarnates only once on Earth,” Christian responded.

    “Ahriman is alive and is learning to fully understand the parameters of the type of artificial intelligence that the internet mechanically spawns. The more the internet is used, the more control it has over the users’ conscious and unconscious minds. The internet has taken the place of the memory of the ancestors that is worshiped in the East. It is becoming the new collective unconscious of all of its users and thus it is changing human spiritual development, to the detriment.

    Users are often addicted, and empathy is stolen from the user and replaced with cold-heartedness. Many become sick, listless, and depressed from internet addiction. The grotesque fantasies of every type of ego-distortion are found on the internet and the nefarious uses of criminals, warlord bankers and brokers, and those who wish to manage the perceptions of the weaker minds are rampant.”

    “Is there no good use for the internet, Christian?” Douglas pleaded. “I love the internet and we reach a global audience with our writings. Isn’t that good?”

    “Every stone, twig, or weapon on Earth can be used for good or ill,” Christian responded. “It is all about consciousness, no matter what the question. And with all questions, there are at least two completely correct answers, if not twelve. The internet can help people find answers quickly and can speed processes that save lives, admittedly; but it is a matter of whether the tool is used with gratitude to the beings who donated the substance and suffered the tool to come into existence, with all of its accompanying karma.

    Some can use the internet for great good, while others great ill. Technology is not an end all solution to consciousness. The entire internet could be wiped out by a small coronal mass ejection of the sun that could wipe out all digital memory and the paths upon which they travel. All of the work of the internet could be snuffed out like a candle, which actually might not be so bad. We would have to start over again as so much knowledge and information we hold is in the internet, not in physical books and papers or in our memory.

    The internet, artificial intelligence, and all of the components needed to operate this network is a new kingdom of nature – this weed-like mineral substance that can steal the angels’ light and enslave it in this darkness that controls many humans. Reaching for our cell phone to text, call, or surf is so easy, yet many do not reflect on the price we pay for such conveniences.”

    “Do you mean the harmful EMFs, Wi-Fi, and the detrimental frequencies that things like weaponized cell-towers create?” Tyla asked rhetorically.

    “Yes, exactly,” said Christian resolutely. “We are in very trying times where we must be alert to the wars going on all around us. The battle is between beings like Lucifer and Ahriman who want to steal the middle ground of love in the heart that Christ and the higher self can enkindle. We need to be consciously aware of the nature of all the tools that we use and their good and ill components. Otherwise, Lucifer will lure us in with brilliant cold light and Ahriman will rock us to sleep with infinite knowledge, pictures, and sounds that make us think we have become clairvoyant by seeing everything in the world, clairaudient by being able to hear everything in the world, and clairsentient by using the Internet of Things to manipulate everything in our environment from our phone.

    We should be developing these abilities to see, hear and act in a spiritual manner that can affect our lives positively. The internet gives us the illusion that we can do these things, yet its very nature draws us away from spirit into its mechanical, materialistic prison. The internet lures us into believing we are so much more than we truly have developed into; it can make the unconscious user feel proud like Lucifer and become cold-hearted like Ahriman.”

    “But will artificial intelligence take over the world and turn us into economic slaves who become automatons?” Douglas asked desperately.

    “No, Douglas,” said Christian, “even though every sci-fi movie predicts that AI goes haywire and that there will be cyborg and robot wars against humans, leading to an eventual dystopia from the battles between human and machines, this will not happen. The real battle is in the middle ground of the human heart where morality and love can always win the day.

    AI will never have consciousness, empathy, love, morality or the ability think. Machines will never replace humans, and the wishful thinking of scientists have scared people into believing that machines can do the same things a human can. This is nonsense. Machines can do what they are programmed to do and they do not, nor will they ever have human thoughts, feelings, or the ability to love. But to the contrary, machines do have the ability to take those very forces from the unconscious user. This is the danger.”

    “Then how do we defeat Ahriman and Lucifer in the battle for the human heart?” Tyla asked. “We know our readers of Our Spirit magazine will have this question.”

    “Bringing consciousness to every tool that you use will set that tool free to be more than a physical object that is limited by time and space. Every time you use your phone, computer, or any electrical device, you should thank the angels who gave of themselves to create your convenience. Then, we do not enslave the angels and the hierarchies involved in these devices, but in fact, we release them. Bringing truth through freedom and love into the internet and social media can redeem its fallen light and turn them into devices and systems that can become tools of the spirit.

    This is accomplished by the user’s intent and the warmth, light, harmony and love that is in the deed of the user. This is true for all material things in the physical world. Through consciously knowing of the sacrifice of the higher hierarchies and the elemental beings, we lift them up into a realm that is a new kingdom that exists between the physical world and the spiritual world. We build this new world as our future that already exists in our very own midst….much like your website where you are using the channels that Ahriman and Lucifer have laid to create a virtual Temple of Wisdom for seekers to explore no matter where they are in the world, in time or space.

    Of course, do all that is necessary to protect yourself from chaotic EMFs, Wi-Fi signals and cell phones. Use the internet wisely and consciously. Take precautions, just as both of you write about in your articles and books. Make sure your readers are not duped into believing Lucifer’s lies that parade as wondrous light, nor the dissonance of Ahriman that keep us bound to the limitations of materialism. Your heart always knows the truth if you look beyond the relative to the absolute.

    Remember that each human is a perfect copy of the cosmos and that whatever we see outside of us is a reflection of who we are inside. Fear, doubt, and hatred keep us in a reactive state of being, just what Ahriman wants in order to keep us bound in a world of limitations, scarcity, and materialism.

    By doing the inner work of spiritual activities such as meditation, reflection, and study, we begin to experience a world beyond the ordinary senses. We begin to activate our organs of supersensible perception and connect to and communicate with higher beings. As our inner world resonates at a higher frequency, so does our outer world. We begin to experience more joy, love, ease, prosperity, synchronicity, divine magic and flow.

    Continue to do your good work, my dear Gabriels, and continue to share our conversations with your readers for no good deed will go unnoticed by those whose greatest pleasure is to see humans evolve into the angels that they are destined to become.”

    Just then, Sophia, who had been chasing butterflies in the garden, ran up to her grandparents to show them a beautiful Monarch in her net. They all admired the butterfly and Douglas began telling her the story of the miraculous journey that the fourth generation butterfly takes that is unlike any other that previous generations of Monarchs take.

    “Maybe like a fourth generation butterfly,” he said to her, “you will be a new kind of human being that is beyond the imagination of generations that preceded you.” Douglas looked up to see if Christian had anything to add to the story, but the master had vanished, leaving as silently and mysteriously as he had entered the garden.
    Quote According to scientists, the first three generations of monarch butterflies live around 4-6 weeks flying, breeding and eating, but the 4th generation of monarch butterflies are different. They live 6-8 months and are the only generation to participate in the long haul “migration,” as seen on the map above.https://jacquithurlowlippisch.com/20...-river-lagoon/

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    We are quite a way down the slippy slope when it comes to the meddling of the world's super rich, using technology to try to fulfil their fantasies of immortality and total control of the masses...perhaps when you have more money than sense and have too much time on your hands because you can have pretty much anything you want - you need to try and find meaning and purpose by pitting yourself against nature... taking your desire for dominance to the extreme...

    As far as I'm concerned transgenderism, transhumanism and advanced robotics is unneccessary, unndesirable and unnatural - if these people just wanted to do it as a hobby for themselves that would be one thing but to impose this all on everyone is completely unacceptable and arrogant in the extreme... the people pushing these unnatural agendas are a threat to human existence - - - maybe ultimately the only thing that will stop their crazy selfishness is a good old fashioned global natural disaster that washes away their precious technology - perhaps this is why they are so afraid of climate change - actually believe it is manmade and want to think they can do something about it - because when nature asserts itself the survivors will all be on an equal footing...although the whole (natural) climate change thing is used to control people and destroy society as we know it I'm wondering if they actually believe they can do something about it because they want to be able to dominate and control everything and everyone...

    Source: https://www.brighteon.com/embed/9890f824-1bff-4231-9a86-ba0a54c7f2b5

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