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    Hi Folks, I'm wondering whether there is anybody out there who has links or valid research regarding Stage 4 Pancreatic cancer, my close girlfriend was just diagnosed with it last week and was told that she had 2 months to live. We have a mutual friend who is a healer and has done all he can for her now but my girlfriend is one of those people who is very thorough when it comes to the research but realistically doesn't have the time to go into it to deeply, so if we could ride on someone elses coat tails to cut down the time spent researching that would be great. So if anybody out there who knows somebody who has had this type of cancer and has lived to tell the tale, please let me know. She also has diabetes and heart problems as well just to complicate matters but she has managed to add 10 years onto her life as the doctors were all about pharmaceuticals and little else, so she did due diligence and helped herself overcome these health problems. She will be getting free Ozone treatments through a friend of hers, a blessing considering my friend is on a benefit and can't afford the prices for some of these health supplements and various treatments. Also Sharks Cartilege etc, etc. Please help as I have known her for over 50 years and she is my closest friend and confidante and I will be devastated if she can't beat this.

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    Johns Hopkins Study: Anti-Parasitic Drug Slows Pancreatic Cancer in Mice
    https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news...cancer-in-mice


    The Benzimidazole-Based Anthelmintic Parbendazole: A Repurposed Drug Candidate That Synergizes with Gemcitabine in Pancreatic Cancer

    This is the first study showing that the FDA-approved parbendazole has a prominent antitumor activity in PC cells. Parbendazole markedly inhibited viability, proliferation, clonogenicity and cell migration of PC cell lines through mechanisms involving DNA damage, alteration of microtubule organization, formation of irregular mitotic spindles and profound cell cycle perturbation. These effects were consistent with the promotion of mitotic catastrophe in PC cell lines, which culminated in apoptosis. Notably, parbendazole in combination with gemcitabine synergistically affected PC cell viability, providing a rationale for its potential repurposing in the currently dismal treatment of pancreatic cancer.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pm...es/PMC6966614/

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    Default Re: Help and links needed for stage 4 pancreatic cancer

    without having any experience with this type of cancer or knowing anyone with it - I was going to say that as time is short and there is nothing to lose.... perhaps anti parasitic drugs could be tried - I wonder if Ivermectin is something that could help ....?

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    If I remember right, this Annatto-enthusiast did an experiment in cooperation with some doctors treating this form of cancer.
    It is the combination of two forms of E-vitamin in Annatto (red seed spice and colouring) and in this case Fenbendazole (anti helmintic) supposedly doing the work.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCw_V-1p_F0

    Randy Alvarez, host of The Wellness Hour, discusses the Potential Health and Cancer Fighting Benefits of Annatto E with Barrie Tan, Ph.D. / 23.10 min


    https://barrietan.com
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    714-X is one of the more popular cancer treatments in the alternative sphere I have come across. Here is the link to the official website: https://www.cerbe.com/714X

    It is quite expensive unfortunately and will set you back a few thousand dollars. It also ships from Canada which might take a little bit to reach NZ. However, I've read some anecdotes of people making miraculous recoveries by using it. I would recommend reading into it.

    There is also Gerson therapy (https://gerson.org/the-gerson-therapy/) and the Budwig protocol (https://budwigcenter.com/budwig-protocol/). These are heavily centred on dietary changes and are quite strict and thorough.

    These are just a few of the alternative treatments that are out there. There are so many and someone must have a comprehensive list detailing all of them. I found this from doing a quick google search: https://www.cancertutor.com/big_list/

    Best wishes to you and your friend Scorpio Girl

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    She may want to look into the Gerson therapy. He apparently used his nutritional therapy technique on his housekeeper that had inoperable Pancreatic cancer and she lived for ten years. I see Billy already recommended this. I am providing a additional site she may wish to look at.




    http://www.healingcancernaturally.co...r-healing.html

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    Scorpio Girl my heart goes out to you as I lost my Dad to this dreadful cancer six weeks after being diagnosed.  There were no warning signs. He never drank or smoked, just a routine blood test.

    Sadly, my Dad had complete faith in the medical industry and chose chemo.  We are convinced the chemo stole some of the precious little time we had left with him.  I strongly recommend against it.

    I read everything I could get my hands on during this harrowing time and there is positive news.  There are people who have beaten this death knock and lived for another 5-10yrs.  It does of course depend on whether the cancer has metastasised but I did read about some who were able to get over this hurdle for longer than expected.

    Alternative therapies were always used in these cases.

    The not so helpful part is there was never one specific, or recurring therapy to identify from the cases I read about and I'm so sorry that this does little to help relieve the search.  Instinct and the recommendations posted here may be the best option in selection.

    The fact that there are alternative therapies happening already for your loved one is very encouraging though.

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    Do please take a good look at these valuable, information-packed threads:

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    I've contacted a dear friend of mine whose wife specialises in holistic and meditative cures for cancer and wait to see what she may be able to provide me with. She's also professionally connected to Prof. Karol Sikora.

    Hopefully I may be able to provide something helpful soon
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    Thank you everybody, I will pass the links and info onto my friend so we can do the research. Hopefully I will hear from you soon Tintin. A heartfelt thanks to everybody here for taking the time to give info.

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    Quote Posted by Scorpio Girl (here)
    Thank you everybody, I will pass the links and info onto my friend so we can do the research. Hopefully I will hear from you soon Tintin. A heartfelt thanks to everybody here for taking the time to give info.
    Hey, no problem

    I have heard back just now and will PM some information to you. She really is very good and has an astounding track record of success.

    Give me an hour or two (at work) and I'll get something to you
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    Great information on this thread. I would add intravenous Vitamin C to the list. Assuming your friend is in New Zealand, here are some links:

    https://teora.co.nz/wp-content/uploa...nformation.pdf - good information
    https://teora.co.nz/about/ - many interesting services
    https://www.helios.co.nz/Our-Service...ous-Vitamin-C/ - provides Vitamin C
    https://www.otago.ac.nz/news/news/otago824522.html - good summary of research

    https://jeccr.biomedcentral.com/arti...46-021-02134-y - even mainstream science is supportive
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24867961/ - mainstream summary "IVC may improve the quality of life and symptom severity of patients with cancer, and several cases of cancer remission have been reported. Well-designed, controlled studies of IVC therapy are needed."
    https://www.oatext.com/High-dose-int...ase-report.php "Many case reports suggest that patients with lung cancer that received high doses of intravenous Vitamin C can live up to 10 years. A level of Vitamin C in plasma above 400 mg/dL is toxic to tumor cells, this can be achieved with periodic Vitamin C infusions. Our case support that the usage of high doses of IV Vitamin C can be effective in the treatment of patients with cancer without secondary effects."

    Hope this helps, please let us know which your friend uses and how she responds.

    This all makes me think: we should set up a Project Avalon healing circle. Surely somebody has thought of this before?

    EDIT: I also found this, which I haven't looked into but looks very interesting, so posting here for comments:

    https://gcmaf.se/gcmaf-the-cancer-cu...as-waited-for/
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    Scorpio Girl, my thoughts and heart goes to you. I know how it feels and anyone who can provide help here will. It's PA and folks do care.

    I am thinking of remote Reiki for your friend and will be happy to work on something, wiith some of my Reiki family. I have pm'ed you.
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    ...

    ... in case this can help someone:
    ... from Jim Stone:

    I HAVE FOUND A NEW CURE FOR CANCER THAT WILL WORK ON ALL TYPES, NO QUESTIONS ASKED.

    I have made a stunning discovery that will result in a universal cancer cure the medical community can't shut down.

    The profiteers in "conventional medicine" won't touch this with a 10 foot pole. This site, jimstone.is is taking 100 percent credit for this medical discovery. It is definitely the beginning of a new era of alt cancer treatments that cannot be shut down. This was posted on December 22 2021 and is the result of me looking for answers after Claudia's positive biopsy.

    This cure is based on solid government records, not unicorns and metal flakes!!! I know that's a bold statement, but wait until you read this. This post absolutely will begin an entirely new sector of alt medical care. Here it is:

    The first document is Apoptosis: A target for anticancer therapy.

    Read it over clearly and if you can't understand the terms, look them up and re-read until this makes sense. Now take a look at this next document and add 2+2. It does not mention cancer, but what it adds up to is quite obvious. The use of magnetic fields in treatment of patients with rheumatoid arthritis.

    HERE IS THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE TWO: In the arthritis document, there is the following quote. It IS THE CONNECTION. In this quote, the key word is Apoptosis. Magnetic therapy forces weakened cells to enter that metabolic mode which triggers cell death, which is 100 percent lethal to cancer. It will be important to use magnets that are the right type to send a field through the cancer tumors. The magnets need to be large in physical size, and thick. Size and thickness are what causes a magnet to actually project its field . Anyway, here is the key quote from the first document:
    "The MF causes movement of the ions within the cell, which results in hyperpolarization of the cell membrane. This affects the acceleration of metabolism, especially stimulating the energy processes and increasing the use of oxygen by the cell [6, 10, 11]. Such changes are a stimulant to proliferation or apoptosis processes [12]. The MF has a beneficial effect on the regenerative mechanisms occurring in the tissue and stimulates humoral and immune activity in the whole organism [6, 11]. It enhances hormonal and enzymatic reactions. The MF also acts on bone and connective tissue. Electric currents induced in tissues may affect the piezoelectric properties of materials, causing mechanical deformation, which stimulates the formation of callus in the case of obstruction in bone healing [10]. The application of MF for therapeutic purposes is based on studies which confirmed the anti-inflammatory, antiedematous, vasodilatory and angiogenic action [6, 13]. Magnetotherapy also has an analgesic effect, affects muscle tension, and stimulates the regeneration of tissues [10, 14-16]. It has a calming effect, affects well-being and has preferable influences on the human psyche [9, 17]."
    Here is one key quote (of many) from the second linked document:


    Got that? Maybe not, but if you don't, No big deal -


    I have to usually avoid posting quotes like that because they go right over many readers heads. But what this means, when you combine the first and second linked reports is that magnetic fields force ALL cells, including cancer cells, to initiate "apoptosis processes" that are completely lethal to cancer, while they locally boost the immune system. The cancer will either die or be weakened while the surrounding cells are energized by the same process that kills cancer, and the immune system is boosted. This has GOT TO kill cancer, there's no way out of it.

    I am once again announcing that I have made this discovery and that it all started here. EVEN IF REPOSTING THIS GETS CENSORED, THERE ARE ENOUGH KNOWLEDGEABLE PEOPLE WHO READ THIS SITE TO SET A TREND AND PUT THIS CURE TO USE. THIS IS NEVER GOING TO BE SHUT DOWN ONCE IT HAS BEEN POSTED HERE, HAVE AT IT ALT MEDICAL FOLKS, THIS IS THE HOLY GRAIL.


    It is far more complex than those two quotes, READ BOTH DOCUMENTS IN FULL. It is all there. This is definitely going to work.

    To state it clearly enough for everyone, this report has to span at least 10 pages to put it all together for people who cannot see all the connections between those two PubMed posts, but I'll make it easy for everyone to do this even if they do not understand:
    1. Use ceramic magnets. This is because by the time neodymium magnets get a big enough physical cross section to penetrate into deep cancer tumors, they will be far too strong to deal with. For Claudia, last night when I drew the connection between those two pubmed posts, I ordered giant ones that were six inches long, 4 inches across and an inch thick.
    FACT: There is no such thing as a "deep penetrating magnet" that is less than 3 inches across and at least a half inch thick and I would not call even that size "minimum" for reaching cancer tumors. People who sell "deep penetrating magnets" that are small in physical size, even if they are neodymiums, are hoaxers. Physical dimensions are what make magnets reach out, not how strong the field is.
    2. From the second report posted (the arthritis report) it is clear that the motion of materials within the cells themselves as the result of metabolic processes is enough to interact with the magnetic field and trigger the healing effects. For this type of therapy, it is probably not necessary to have the magnets interact with large veins and arteries.

    3. The magnets have to be placed in proximity with the tumors, simply wearing one on your wrist will not work AT ALL to kill the tumors. However, placing magnets that are large enough to penetrate major ciculatory vessels may have a small effect on preventing cancer from spreading to other parts of the body.

    4. Time matters. You cannot accomplish the healing effects in a half hour therapy session. People with cancer need to go to bed with the magnets in place.
    I have done a lot with magnets over the years, and have a few more observations -

    If you cannot get one that has a huge surface area, you can stack smaller ones and that will help them penetrate. However, the bare minumum size to any magnet I have seen that can be stacked to cause it to project its field sufficiently is about 1.5 x .75 inches. In this case thickness does not matter, as long as you can get a stack that's about six inches tall. It's not as practical as simply having a giant cross section to begin with. If you go smaller than that, they will obviously still penetrate more than their size would suggest but it won't be enough. Cross section is what really matters.

    Placing magnets side by side nets you ZERO additional projection unless the poles match in direction and the magnets are touching, and that's virtually impossible to accomplish. If you put them in a vice to prevent them from repelling each other and then epoxied them, that's good enough but why do that when the real solution is to just start with a bigger magnet?

    This size magnet is probably sufficient, but the ones I got Claudia are twice as big. It is easy to see why they should not be neodymium. I do not recommend giant ring magnets even though they are easier to get because in my experience they don't project their fields as well.



    Anyway, that ought to be enough to get people started.

    This post will be updated.

    UPDATE: People are already posting this, and are stating "It has zero side effects"

    FACT: If you do this successfully against a major cancer case, the recipient is going to get very sick and all their hair will fall out. That's universal when you successfully kill a lot of cancer. Hair falling out is not a side effect, it is a result, but that result will be seen as a side effect.

    When cancer dies it releases poisons into the blood stream and THAT is what causes hair to fall out. Claudia had about 70 percent of her hair fall out when the cesium chloride did its work, but it fell out uniformly and she had really thick hair so it did not get ugly, it just got really thin. She was worried though, because if that continued any longer than it did she would have needed a wig. Magnetic therapy that successfully kills cancer will do the same thing, and loss of hair is something that should be considered an indicator of success.

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    Here is an article about Enzyme Therapy

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    I've just remembered something I heard years ago about Chris Rea ( of 'Road to Hell' fame ).

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    In 2000, Chris Rea was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, and underwent surgery which resulted in the removal of part of his pancreas and gall bladder. Since having this surgery, Chris has had issues with diabetes and a weaker immune system, requiring over 30 pills and seven injections a day.



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    My mom had it ten years ago at the age of 79. Same situation. She went ahead with a full Whipple surgery and Chemo and she survived. Still going strong. She had surgery at UCLA. Let me know if you need more info?

    Also, VERY HELPFUL, the old-fashioned Pancreatic-CA ACOR Listserve mailing list. Years of searchable archives with advice, suggestions of clinical trials, procedures, unique needs and solutions from doctors, nurses, patients, family members and caregivers.

    LISTSERV ACOR PANCREAS ONC ARCHIVES LIST

    Prayers to you all!

    P.s. I know chemo isn't a popular treatment as it's very nasty business but because my mom was given just a month, she felt there was no time for her to look into alternatives. Also, I'D had a Wilm's Tumor (kidney,) when I was six, also given a month to live. They tried an experimental chemo on me and I survived, so she saw chemo as a lifesaver since it had worked for me. So my point is, you've got to give it your best shot whatever it is. And I imagine there must be better treatments since my mom had it. I hope this makes sense? xoxo
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    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    I've just remembered something I heard years ago about Chris Rea ( of 'Road to Hell' fame ).

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    In 2000, Chris Rea was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, and underwent surgery which resulted in the removal of part of his pancreas and gall bladder. Since having this surgery, Chris has had issues with diabetes and a weaker immune system, requiring over 30 pills and seven injections a day.



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    Yeah, my mom requires insulin now, (one or two injections a day?) and enzyme tablets to help with digestion, but she is good.
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