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    Dear Friends, this is quite a long post. The intention is to lay out, as best I can:
    1. What I know
    2. What I believe I know
    3. What I suspect
    4. What may possibly be the case
      ...and it's also interspersed with
    5. Quite a few uncertainties.
    I shared this on the Here and Now thread a couple days ago:
    I went on a short mountain hike with Mara today: not a major one, but we were still up pretty high. There, my antennae are often extended, and sometimes there's quite a good signal.
    We went out today, as well. Despite my extended antennae, sometimes not much comes through. Occasionally, quite a lot actually does. Today, I didn't so much pick up anything new, but simply grew a focused intention to post this thread, and it became very clear in my mind what it would contain.

    The title is reminiscent of Richard Dolan's most recent book, The Alien Agendas, but I'd not really recommend that. It's very diluted, abbreviated and general, more suited to those new to the ET phenomenon and curious what the heck those aliens may be doing.

    And Richard is careful, as he often is, not to go too far, or to say anything that might be upsetting or divisive. Which is why the book is quite bland. Here, I'm going to go out on rather more of a limb.

    I do want to say, though, as a caveat right up front: aside from my personal experiences, which are what they are, none of this should be taken as any kind of authoritative statement or prediction. I may possibly be quite wrong in much of this. I'm really just going to join a few dots as best I can, and present some opinions and arguments. As always, I welcome all discussion.

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    I think it can be taken as certain that many ETs (which may or may not come from the same non-human civilization) have a strong interest in Planet Earth and the human species, and have done for thousands of years. (Linda Moulton Howe has recounted many times that she was told by a knowledgeable DIA insider that the interest has been for over 200 million years.)

    Some of those ETs (and I'll use that term as a catch-all, whoever they are) may be from other star systems, and some may be from other parallel dimensions. (Or both, of course.)

    I'm as sure as I can be that some of the ETs are time-traveling here from the future, and some are future humans.

    Some of those future humans appear to have an interest in our genome. (An example of that is the well-known 1980 Bentwaters case, but there are a number of other claims and reports.) It's been suggested, I feel plausibly, that the interest is because in the future the human genome becomes, or has become, degraded in some seriously problematic way.

    With the arguable current onslaught on the human genome through the covid 'vaccines', it has to be at least considered that there may be a good reason the future humans are returning to this very time period (say, the last couple of thousand years, till right now) to collect healthy, intact genetic material for whatever purposes of their own.

    Some ETs may be abducting (and/or breeding, or breeding with) humans... to save them. Just as we 'abduct' rhinos in Africa, and breed them in distant safe places, to ensure they're not brought to extinction by poachers.

    I reference this thread from time to time, because it always had an impact on me — and always rang true. Of course, it cannot be proven.
    But for a moment, let's try to think like an ET — of any of several kinds. And to do that, we need to assume these capabilities:
    • They can read the minds, intentions, and values of any human they choose.
    • They can enter, and/or look into, any space on the planet, whether it's 'secure' or not.
    That means, I'd argue, that they can know just about everything that's happening anywhere, in any nation, in any location, if they want to. And they probably do want to.

    So I'd suggest they understand pretty well what all humans are up to right now. The good, the bad, and the ugly. In all strata of society.

    We can also assume — I contend — that they have time-traveling, or time-portal-viewing, capability. That means they can foresee what will happen, or what may happen.

    Now, to sidestep for a moment, I do think it's very arguable that there have been at least one and maybe several major cataclysms in relatively recent earth history. Certainly one around 12,600 years ago (likely caused by an asteroid or comet impact, but it's also been suggested this was from a major solar event) and possibly several prior to that.

    Off-topic on this thread: but many will be aware that at least one major megalithic site (Gunung Padang, an Indonesian pyramid) has been dated to be as old as 20,000 years. Some suggest it's even older.

    And it's been seriously suggested that the reason some ETs appear to be totally human in appearance (and very perfectly so, as well) is that they really are human — descended from Earth humans who were either taken (or rescued) from this planet thousands of years ago, or who developed space travel here on Earth in previous ages and then left for elsewhere. Either is a neat explanation for how come they resemble us almost completely.

    (And another side note: if the above can be entertained, so might be the possibility that those ETs we know of as reptilians are the remote descendants of animals airlifted to safety millions of years ago after — or maybe just before — the asteroid impact that pretty much wiped out all the dinosaurs.)

    So back to the ETs' interests in us. Just as some humans are [rightly]very concerned about the destruction of the Amazon rain forest, or the current rapid extinction of many species, it'd be very easy to believe that the ETs have been gathering 'Noah's Ark' samples of everything they can find. (And they can probably find anything they want to.)

    If they have been doing that, there's absolutely no reason we'd ever get to know or hear about it. But thinking like an ET, as best we can, if these earth species were in danger (and maybe if healthy humans were in danger, too), this is exactly what they might be doing.

    Now to personal experience. Quite a few reading this might know of a couple of incidents I've posted about several times over the years.

    Long ago, I had a partner named Angi (an easy term to search for on Avalon), who I'm as sure as I can be wasn't entirely human. There's lots to support that.

    One day, right out of the blue, she looked up suddenly from her breakfast, and just as as if she was remarking about the weather, she said:
    "The Earth is a very beautiful place, but it won't always be this way."
    That etched itself in my mind like it was carved with a diamond drill.

    She kind of said it by accident, as it were.... when I pressed her (like, what??), she would not enlarge, and just changed the subject. It was always near-impossible to get her to say more about what she knew, or who she really was.

    The second incident of interest here is my contact-and-abduction experience in Sept 1948 (my previous lifetime), all recovered in detail by regression and recorded on audio, in which I encountered a ship in the Hamilton, Ontario woods while walking my parents' dog one Sunday afternoon.

    The three beings in the craft killed the dog entirely unintentionally (the dog had panicked and tried to attack them, and their reaction was some kind of reflex) — and they were genuinely contrite.

    All this time, I was in shock, as one might imagine. Then they took me aboard where high in the stratosphere, part of the craft's walls became transparent (or, maybe, turned into some kind of screen), and I was shown what looked like the atmosphere burning.

    Just like a sci-fi movie when you see some kind of fiery planetary catastrophe. I can still see it in my mind's eye to this day.

    Many reading this will be aware that over the years there's been a constant, almost incessant, low-level background speculation of imminent catastrophes. Stepping back a little from this, one might legitimately ask — why is this happening?

    Did this happen in previous generations? Why so much of it now? And why so much of it at all? Where is this deep, unfocused general anxiety coming from?

    There are many plausible answers, but one has to be that very deep down (rather as if in Clif High's linguistic analysis of humans unconsciously foreseeing events) we somehow all know that something is going to happen.

    But we just can't quite see what or when. That's always been the problem. And there have been so many failed predictions, we all have catastrophe fatigue.

    However, there are plenty of things to be rationally worried about. There's a lot of good science (albeit censored, suppressed and dismissed) to suggest an imminent grand solar minimum and an associated mini ice age. That, combined with current supply chain issues and the serious global shortage of fertilizer, could easily usher in a global famine.

    And there might be no other word for it than that. I was specifically told in 2010 that this would be the thing that was planned to kill off billions of people.

    And considering the two experiences I shared above (Angi's stark matter-of-fact statement, and my equally unforgettable view of the atmosphere burning), there might be something much more akin to Ed Dames' remote viewed 'Killshot'. (See his videos here and here.)

    Even more worryingly, Ben Davidson, nobody's fool, has also gone out on a very long limb and (among much else) published this video.

    And as he points out, as have hundreds of others, the DUMBs (Deep Underground Military Bases) that have been built since WW II — not only in the US — have been the product of trillions of dollars of sophisticated engineering for some good reason.

    As has the Secret Space Program, certainly also a reality. (If, as Ben Rich stated in 1993 — nearly 30 years ago! — "We already have the means to travel among the stars", maybe the future of at least some of the human race is already safeguarded.)

    Again, the problem may be timing. If something dire is imminent, 'imminent', geologically speaking (or from the view of ETs who have been watching this planet for millennia), might be 100, or 1000, years away. Not necessarily tomorrow, or in our lifetime.

    I could write much. more more, and the above is not that much more than a bunch of notes and thoughts. But there's so much more to all this. I'll just summarize with one, brief sentence. And I invite all thoughts, comments, and additional references.
    At least some ETs know full-well that some major change is imminent for the human race, understand it all perfectly, and are taking certain steps in preparation — whatever those might be.

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    Thanks for sharing, Bill.

    My take is that different timelines offer different future scenarios, and firmly believe that the possibility of healing our planet is within our collective capacity. If we can see this world as our beloved home, and are willing to make sacrifices for the sake of future generations then no ET power can plant doomsday scenarios into our minds.

    Where do our thoughts arise from, in this immense ocean of infinite possibilities?

    We have no chance of ever finding out, but we can and should reject those thoughts that stem from either our own fears, or outside interference.

    When living right, and with integrity, one can withstand even a bio weapon attack.
    My husband recently had covid, high fever for two weeks, (being a doctor he was more exposed than I am) but I never caught it, even though we shared the same room.
    There are two realities, the reality experienced by an individual and the reality of the collective.
    Both are governed by the same laws, and those laws are about wise stewardship.

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    Nice post. My take is that since they have been visiting us for so long, in different cultures around the world, perhaps they are the gods who promised to return. It seems like there have been many prototypes of man over time, us being the latest iteration, perhaps they are building the next model? Or as you say perhaps they see a future calamity and wish to extract as much of whatever they need before time runs out, but presumably with a time machine it never would, I’m not sure. One thing we can be sure of, for the most part, unless accidentally discovered, they do not want us to observe them watching us. One can only imagine why.

    Us trying to match our logic with creatures of such vast potential is akin to a dog understanding his owners job. There are no doubt many different types visiting us so it would seem logical to think that they have different even conflicting interests and motivation for being here. One would think that if they had observed a planet and could foresee doom that they would inform the population so that they may prepare, perhaps all those DUMBs are our leaders reactions to their message.

    The thing that gives me pause for thought is the way they hide themselves?……x….. N

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    As someone that was brought to Avalon because of an up-close and personal UFO sighting that more than likely included some form of contact, I am not quite sure what to make of your post. You certainly have gone a bit out on a limb which is a good thing. I have given my experience more thought than I believed was humanly possible. I have read everything I could get my hands on and still do to this day but that said, I am not sure what to make of it all. I have come to the conclusion that other races and species inhabit parts of the universe. Some species of extraterrestrials are absolutely visiting earth. We can hope and pray for disclosure all day long and it will only happen if and when these travellers decide to disclose. It seems that everyone has their own take on why we are being visited which makes it close to impossible to connect the dots to reach any meaningful answers.

    I am quite certain that there are extraterrestrials that do not have man's best interest at heart. I am also sure that that planet itself may be more desirable uninhabited to some species. I believe very strongly that there are extraterrestrials that will not allow mankind's destruction by another ET. If mankind is going to fail as a species it will be of our own doing. If mankind succeeds as a species it will also be of our own doing and at that point, we will be allowed entrance into the greater universe.
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

    Some ETs may be abducting (and/or breeding, or breeding with) humans... to save them. Just as we 'abduct' rhinos in Africa, and breed them in distant safe places, to ensure they're not brought to extinction by poachers.
    When this happens, do you think when the children are older they are aware of whom and where they came from, or they’re none the wiser and have surrogate families?

    Are people picked at random or is there something particular they want, say a certain family line or heritage?
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    In Jim Sparks' book The Keepers he wrote about mass abductions where the Grays would show everyone videos of the degradation of the planet. He was also taught an alien alphabet. That seemed strange to me because I didn't see any reason for him to learn it unless they plan to relocate him to another planet. He's now 67 and that seems impractical. His reward for learning something was a Q&A session or sexual energy. They would show him images of himself in past incarnations. During one abduction they said this to him "Where's your hat?" because in past lives he usually wore one. I imagine they could interact with earlier versions of him minutes apart. I've heard stories of the Grays collecting plant specimens as if having foreknowledge of a global cataclysm.

    Brien Foerster wrote a book called Aftershock: The Ancient Cataclysm that Erased Human History. It parallels Ed Dames' Killshot. Book
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    Default Re: The Alien Agenda

    Great to see you just put your mind "out there" and being so honest with your thoughts.

    But how does this post connect the dots with the more optimistic post you made and referenced in your first link?
    Quote "To my genuine surprise, I found myself feeling very positive about this new year 2022. I'd not been expecting that. The clear sense I got was rather like emerging from a long dark tunnel into the welcome daylight."
    The tone of the posts are rather different (please understand that I am just curious about your stance, because I am very aware that I am currently struggling with finding some comfort and hope in he midst of all negativity flowing around, but not to the price of fooling myself with hopium) where I of course also hope for the best to occur this new year of 2022, but also have my "shields up" in case I need to meet another ****storm. So to conclude my question is simply: whats your take on the road ahead then?

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    Lightbulb Re: The Alien Agenda

    • Thank you so much Bill for starting this thread.


    Lately am pondering a lot about how we access memory and how we "value" memory ... I sense that we all are actually "alien souls" but the vast majority has (temporary?) amnesia for a specific reason ... I have discussed this angle "ad nauseam" last decade but in my opinion not in a satisfactory way.

    Yesterday it hit me ... why I seem to know so much more in dreams especially when I am lucid dreaming ... having strong feelings of certain people (cosmic entities?) that I know them forever and feel 100% safe & uplifted by them ... then when I wake up almost all details fade away as if I am not allowed to remember them ... I still feel an echo of emotions & so many (strange) familiarities ... But those memories are deeper than "normal day to day memories".

    Imagine being on another planet where "memory" is totally irrelevant, you just receive any awareness that is necessary in the now if need be, and you use that to do what you have to do at that particular moment and it is no big deal ... then when you move on you do not have to remember that you did those things as it is all 100% transparent and known to all and you can tap in to that awareness anytime to see the "logic (or "higher common sense") & necessity" of it ...

    Living in a realm where almost everything is instant self-explanatory nothing is "secret" and everything is known ... this way of living is 100% in harmony of what is pure & good without "hidden agendas" as there is no need to be like that.

    Now imagine that "memory" is a total different construct on other planets ... for you to access this kind of super awareness is not a big of a deal if your Soul came from that place ... but it still IS for humans ... we value our unique memories, journey, spiritual growth, becoming wiser, see progression, feeling a sense of proud, understanding your own history why you are what you think you are and so much more ... all of it we think we (may) "lose" if we die or lose a spiritual battle.

    But what if our "core essence" is so so much more that leaning on "memory" alone ... How much of our important actions & choices are based upon having certain specific memories and how much actions & choices are actually not based upon having memories but something much deeper?

    I tell you this because if we want to be empathic towards certain aliens who are among us, for them it is no big deal to "lose it all" because where they came from there is a whole different way of being & living.



    For example: Imagine you want contact with certain aliens and you send out your clear intent (just like in the CE5 protocols) you meditate etc. etc. and the receiver of your (telepathic) transmission will be received in ANY point of time (past, present or future) and they can zoom in to you even coming from the future or they sense you when they are in the past ... so we can broadcast multidimensionally ... like a beacon it can be picked up where you are but also "when you are" ... meaning they could be out of time from your perspective ... still you can have a meaningful exchange of insights that helps you why you feel it is important to connect with your Soul origins. I think when that happens we will be tested if we are ready to go to the next level ...

    If we force/demand them to give our "lost (past alien lives?) memories" back (or some of it) which makes perfect sense from our perspective but from their perspective it is maybe a waste of time because when you return you will access everything you need in the "eternal now" which is instant awareness that has some similarities with how we use "memories" but is much bigger & more profound as it is like a grand symphony of multiple lives combined.

    We humans are shaped by our memories right? ... But they may claim "human memories" are truly overrated ... All our hopes, dreams, despair, regrets, sorrow, painful memories & beautiful experiences all of it defines us ... right? ... It is like holding strong to a life's story connected to a life's purpose with a life's mission.

    Then when you finally really find out the truth who you really are you may realize it can become all totally irrelevant ... from our perspective it sounds "cold & harsh" but it isn't.

    All of human drama & joy, some deeply connected overcoming limitations, hurdles in life, facing all kinds of challenges etc. etc. ... there is this need in most of us to truly appreciate where you came from and what you have become. ... That is a certain vibration is what the aliens may not have ... as so much is not necessary anymore (from their perspectives) they may see a part of them in us as once they were like us too. If they can really relate to us depends on their level of awareness and how much it is interwoven or not. The more they can related to us the bigger is the chance we also have to face so many unresolved issues on that level.

    But if you are originally from a place with you have a total different life-style with no fear not being victim of deceptions 24/7 you really want to avoid Planet Earth. But so many (alien) Souls have chosen to be here anyway ... the big question would be: WHY? ... Why would you leave a beautiful loving harmonious place/realm and think you would "not" be poisoned on so many levels here on Earth? ... Or did you know before you came and you had a specific reasons to be of service to others here?

    Why would so many (alien) souls (with temporary amnesia) sacrifice themselves to take the risk to be here on Earth? ... I have some ideas why ... most are speculative some are deeply felt and resonates with my core being .... There is something so strong that scatters all fears ... I which I could relay that insight to all of you Avalonians.

    How we humans focus on having "memories" is maybe seen as very primitive from an Alien point of view ... as their soul is not defined by (often poisoned & corrupted) memories but something else >>> WE humans can also do but mostly won't ... if you feel you are 100% pure and honest you do not need to remember anything but yet you know all you need to know in the now, as it will come to you instantly (no effort needed!).

    Who has an experience that you did things you never thought you were able to do ... or that you "know things" (Out of the Blue) that are way too complex yet simple when you try to convey (translate) it to a wider audience. As if you feel guided to do so ... This "guidance" may be just your connection to your "higher-self" but from a other dimension that is "out of time" ... The moment you are in a state of fear this "inner guidance" is (most of the time) gone ... That is why the MSM & Ultra Elite loves to sell fear 24/7 to the masses thus most NOT having access who they truly are ... As you become a predictable automaton conditioned to behave a certain way that serves their tyrannical Agenda 2030 perfectly.

    What kind of aliens do we attract depends heavily on (y)our "state of being"... your level of understanding ... your willingness to let go of so many fears ... exercise/practicing self-honesty & communicating your authenticity ... The more honest you are towards yourself the bigger the chance you have different kind of alien contacts coming decades ... Self-knowledge is key to have a meaningful contact experience ... But if you are not ready for whatever reason ... know that everything will eventually be explained anyway, but most likely not in a way you are used to be like how limited humans "explain" stuff
    • So, what has all the above to do with the "Alien Agenda" ... to me it is simple: "We all are the Alien Agenda"


    cheers,
    John Kuhles aka 'ExomatrixTV'
    January 4th, 2022


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    Very interesting observations and speculations, Bill. Thanks.

    I will try to give the sources for the following mishmash of ideas on the ET presence here on Earth.

    Using Truman Cash's research of past and current life recalls (his and others), there seems to be four or five main ET groups involved in the abduction phenomenon. Those four are the greys (small and large), reptilians, human-like (paleadians?) and mantids. These groups, or renegade subgroups (these four groups may not represent everyone of their kind) cooperated with one another in subduing and brainwashing the human race. These groups were also involved in soul recycling of human souls, by capturing the soul after it left the body at death and returning it to a new body.

    These et interlopers are able to time travel and can pass through physical matter as if it was a mirage.

    These bad guy ETs must get some benefit from brainwashing/soul recycling of humans. The term 'loosh"ing has been used to describe how ETs expunge energy from suffering humans.

    The huge underground and underwater ET bases that are often mentioned by abductees attests to the huge operation ETs have mounted on this planet. The rewards must be significant.

    So, to me those listed above are the worst kind of ET. These are the kind that are likely mind controlling the likes of the Rothschilds/Rockefellers/Gates/Musk's of the world and are orchestrating this covid scamdemic to force as many people as they can to take the poisonous vaccines. The end goal of this scam appears to be kill off a good portion of the population and cyborg enslave the rest.

    There are accounts that some of the ETs are future humans, as reported by Dan Burisch to you and Kerry, Bill. I think those nauseating looking bubble head future humans are likely the faroff children of this cyborgion apocalypse. It seems likely they are here to likely recover dna for their own rehabilitation.

    In my one abduction recall I was awoken on a slab with a searing pain in my left shin. I observed a bluish bubble headed greytype creature (reminded my of Gollum) leaning over my knee, likely extracting bone marrow. It quickly noticed me being awake and squealed while leaning towards my head, and I blacked out. I have had numerous triangular shaped scars on my inner thighs left by these creeps. This abuse was certainly not for my benefit, I'm guessing it was for dna retrieval, or it could be for antibody extraction which I believe one abduction account I've heard say is a reason for abductions

    Marshal Vian Summers (via visions and channelling) has indicated that there are several Alien 'collectives'. (ie. Interstellar empires that enslave their subject planets) that are jockeying to assimilate Earth. From numerous sources, the indications are that the secret space program conducts trade with one or more of these collectives. Obviously the greys being one of these, since we know the greys have been assisting in the development of the SSP, as disclosed by Bob Uhouse's testimony.

    Now, this is not to say that there aren't good guy ETs to "help' us. There are several dozen alien species, if not more, that have been reported in abductee recalls. Many of them are humanoid, though not always of earth human appearance. Somewhere I heard that roughly 40% of the interstellar species are humanoid. Many accounts of the ETs seen in abductions appear to be benevolent, or atleast not malice-like. From some sources, Kryon being one, our galaxy is filled with free will planets that enjoy autonomy and the fruits of freedom.


    So, Bill, although I can understand your intuitive sense of calamity for humanity on earth, I would wager that this sense is for the ongoing calamity that humanity is suffering through. Humans are being harvested and soul recycled. Although some natural catastrophe may be heading our way, as the psychopaths in the deep state seem to be preparing for with their dumbs, I believe that this future is not written in stone. If humanity collectively sheds the attempted enslavement attempt, and finds a way to survive the upcoming changes, then we can join our freewill interstellar family and be done with this suffering for good. I hear the goodguy pleaidians are future earth humans that took that route. So that's what we should aim for.
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    Default Re: The Alien Agenda

    Bill, can you try and tie in the recent deep state’s push for “disclosure” with Alien Agenda topic if possible. Is the “disclosure” forced by some type of alien agenda, if so what is it?

    Thanks
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    Earth was given to humans to live in and be in charge of this planet, it was a gift from God, but also a test of responsability. Now we see aliens as powerful, but they are creation also and have many flaws. Even they have been around for ages and also have made experiments on humans, they are not allowed to go in open, unless they are on hybrid form, means to resemble humans. The laws of God are above any creature and the punishment for breaking them is severe. So no one is taking over our planet, it is up to mankind to evolve and to clear up the mess they have created, it's our test, it's our responsability and it will be so, until the Day of Judgement.
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    I fear I won’t be too elaborative at this point though the topic deserves justice, i will try my best and see how it goes.

    I’ve personally observed and researched the topic of “various” - diverse - often unrelated ET agendas through out my life, since I became aware of “them” and them being for real, that was for me Bodhgaya 2002.
    Prior to that I would usually avoid discussing the topic , even though I’ve had continuous contact experiences in childhood, as a teenager and so forth, growing up in those times was complicated , anything from spirituality, religion and ET contact could land you straight in mental institution, back then.

    As a student of mathematics and sciences preparing for medical studies that were my hobby and volition, actually I knew all that and how stringent was the mindset of backdays society about all these “topics”.

    Even then, falling off to my spiritual side as a teenager I could not avoid inner conflict with both family and schools I fell into, while they claimed virtually none with me ( I was just another shy girl in the back) I went my own ways with trying to explain and access my spiritual insights and other dimensional insights,
    I took off to meditate, mostly walking through the old town and its mysteries and parks and spent countless hours in various city libraries digging for scriptures and other worthy literature ( that wasn’t easily available in my days but started to reappear after 1989) .
    Though other dimensional entities offered me insights to other algebraic and geometrical systems some of which seemed to form “pure lands” of their own,
    I thought that the problem between “them and us” could be sorted mathematically,

    even if this is not far fetched from today’s perspectives ,

    I saw this like giant puzzle to solve ( suppose that advanced intelligence would kick the right brains in me ) in front of me for many years and almost broke my head and heart on not sorting it.

    At the most stressful moment of the venue while I was 18 and running short of my class attendance , out of sudden , peace and quiet dawned on me, stopped years of pain almost on instant together with my feverish effort of “solving it”.

    In the same timeframe I’ve started to attend yoga class and came to know teacher who has studied in India and I was guided spiritually , not by the person herself but my own motivations and desire “to know” to go to India and complete my meditation ,

    I completely did not know what am I doing from human perspective back then, had no money in my pocket , did not read travel books about India ( save for fairytales and some historical novels and scriptures ) but landed in safe hands of wise and learned pundits, luckily for me and continued life rather smoothly studying Sanskrit, Veda’s, the meaning of symbols and rituals, ancient alphabets , philosophy and of course my favorite meditations.
    That’s years before I joined Tibetan Buddhist monastery for 6 years so I could actually complete my meditation 🙏😁🙏

    Pun intended - people rarely let you be on your own to do that, anywhere in this world, to do that safely.

    In those years I devoted most of my time to teaching and listening to my students . So whatever spiritual experiences I’d have in those years they were oriented towards others, shared without words and never conflicted with anyone.

    There may have been some ETs mixed to it all but I did not know about it.

    Comes 2002, my perspectives were upgraded beyond my wildest considerations .

    Back to ET agendas ..


    I believe there are many and being played behind our backs.

    Among the many ET groups interacting with us , 3 of them stick with me as prominent. 3 or 4, to be correct.

    The ones I started with are the most benevolent and advanced but/and do not engage in acts of deception. They exist on very high frequency of matter and so they rarely appear to humans anyhow and them and their technologies are nearly undetectable.
    If they already do appear and disappear to us we are more likely to perceive them as phenomena rather than crafts.
    On the other hand, they and their protective abilities are able to assist humanity at times when danger is imminent and/or prevent catastrophes long ahead.


    The second group I’ve noticed and observed to be present and around seemingly at all times are curious and diverse - they seem to be or are advanced humanoids masquerading as very good and trustable looking humans or they Project such appearance to human minds repeatedly - though I’m almost certain that their original authentic morphology differs from “beautiful human looks”, they often project themselves as “nordics” of Caucasian race or other “pure breed” of virtually any tribe,
    taking over the part of brain and memory where our sacred and patriarchal , even matriarchal archetypes are stored , their images , they try to take over our “control centers” and navigation systems,
    and can both prevent and cause accidents.

    They’re also the ones - so it seems to me- behind both military and ET abductions of past decades - apart of the “greys” who are the dominant group number 3 I’d chose to name.

    They are the greatest tricksters of humanity though they apparently mean “somewhat” well with us,
    they play us like little children , because “they can” and whenever they can.

    They are actively engaged in sexual and biological exploitation of humanity and consider humans inferior and slave race whose fate depends on their mercy,
    through emotional and sexual exploitation they are also secretly engaged in most mind control tricks running today’s politics and corporations.
    Theirs is the “love&bite” phenomenon as described as Eve Longren, Dr Jacobs and others.

    Theirs is also the currently unrolling hypothesis about them being the originators and seeders of humanity and we being their offspring, the “hybrid theory”.

    It enables them to claim ownership of humans under diverse circumstances by projecting deceptive empathy to our undertakings and abusing our most vulnerable points, memories etc.

    Group number 3, “the greys” too seem to be diverse group or several different group of different ethical perspective , their activities are far easier to discern than the previous 2, they’re less emotional with us if any and rather “clear cut”.


    In case of major solar originated disaster , this being highly hypothetical and less predictable event from today’s MSM perspective but it may have occurred in planetary history in past and is likely to occur in future ,
    we just don’t know when - but I’ve heard that some scientists ( Stan Deyo of recent years) went around the hypothesis number of times ,
    predicting the unpredictable ,”solar killshots” - my question here begs: wouldn’t they be induced by controlled weapon system instead ,
    we would have but one option to survive that is hide from the surface ,
    in caves and underground spaces like some of our ancestors did.

    I consider the topic of solar activity myself very very pertinent.

    In personally noticed - increased solar radiation through past two decades , still insignificant in its calculated impact on our biosphere yet affecting our physiology and psyche.
    I’ve nicknamed it “the problem of Sunny” for myself many years ago though I can rarely discuss it openly, precisely as nature of the problem warranties.

    Most people in their minds fell “for Sunny” at some portion of their life and carrier. Think of mass tourism of past decades, the love of healthy energy and suntan,
    the religion of Sun and Light and “eating Sunlight” and so forth.
    Think of all the benevolent properties of sunlight and how it calms people’s minds preventing g them from overthink ,
    that’s short before it burns holes in their retina or causes growth of malignant cancer cells damaging some DNA irreversibly, among else.

    Without sufficient amount of water the biosphere would suffer from the scorching heat of the Sun rapidly and life, no matter how advanced will die in major extinction wave.
    Something in me knows that it won’t happen “that soon” and probably not in our life times unless we live another ,60-100 years but it could happen sooner.

    Heat zones on all continents and their temperatures have increased recently on all continents, from the heart of Australia to the US and Canadian Pacific West Coast to deserts of Middle East,
    each year new temperature records are being broken “only to show us” but it all is just a beginning.

    If such prediction or possibility of comes under any closer to our current scientific understanding and calculus , would any of the ET groups be able to assist ?

    The “bigger and truer answer” to the question sounds “no, not major ways”.

    Some would assist in saving parts of humanity it seems to me, that’s before the planet turns too hot for timebeing - number of decades at least before it starts cooling again,
    their presence around here would pose risk and damage to either of them and their technologies.

    The only valid way to “save humanity” under such scenario would depend on our own calculations, advanced planning, compassion for each other and finding or building sufficient shelters and resources in order to survive such cataclysm.


    If any of the ET groups I’ve mentioned, vaguely I admit but you may well fit into the 3 categories yourself , could and saved number of humans or their souls,
    it will be of greater advantage to both kinds etc. but it will never save the whole situation.

    My theories may be unbaked and my intelligence insufficient to resolve any such question clearly and “on spot” but i believe that more genuine personal research and reflection to all above topics is necessary to understand “where are we heading to”.



    Thanks to Bill and the PA community making such discussion possible.


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    Quote Posted by Metaphor (here)
    Great to see you just put your mind "out there" and being so honest with your thoughts.

    But how does this post connect the dots with the more optimistic post you made and referenced in your first link?
    Quote "To my genuine surprise, I found myself feeling very positive about this new year 2022. I'd not been expecting that. The clear sense I got was rather like emerging from a long dark tunnel into the welcome daylight."
    The tone of the posts are rather different (please understand that I am just curious about your stance, because I am very aware that I am currently struggling with finding some comfort and hope in he midst of all negativity flowing around, but not to the price of fooling myself with hopium) where I of course also hope for the best to occur this new year of 2022, but also have my "shields up" in case I need to meet another ****storm. So to conclude my question is simply: whats your take on the road ahead then?
    Wow, there are a lot of questions. I may not be able to answer them!

    But this one, I think I can. I do (still) think that 2022 will be better than 2021. Maybe I was in some way kidding myself, but I did suddenly feel a strong sense of relief, which did actually take me a little by surprise.

    I think in 2022 there'll be more clarity, more awakening, more pushback, more revelations. But it might not be an "easy" year — not at all! — because there'll be shortages of critical supplies including food, conflicts both minor and major, significant public arguments, and (sadly) likely continuing divisions between friends and families.

    Back to the biggest picture: the ETs, whoever they are, are watching this multilayered drama play out like a giant global Shakespeare play. They, like us, will be students of human nature too. But it may be, and this was pretty much my thesis, that this drama is being played out before a sudden earthquake hits the whole theater. (And that's a metaphor. )

    It has to be possible that the event or events the ETs are really focused on are nothing that humans can control, prevent, or even possibly cause, and (as I tried to say), if any of this is "imminent", that may not mean anything in 2022, or even in our lifetimes. It may be something 100 or 500 years from now... but that's still just tomorrow in geological time.

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    Bill, you mentioned a possible mini ice age occurring in our future.
    My brother brought to my attention an article about China so
    far spending 700 billion pounds on the construction of 3 artificial suns.

    I wonder if they know something. The reason given in the article was
    clean energy production.

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    There is a lot of good information here. But like so many things, I find that for me it creates more questions than answers - and that is fine.

    I just don't have the time to wade through every theory and give it the research it deserves, but I do get some clarity for myself which makes it simpler or easier to not spend a lot of time trying to sort it all out.

    We do realize how advanced other races are compared to ourselves.

    We don't know for sure how many there are that are involving themselves in all of this.

    Comparing it to our own hierarchy of organizations and government groups - which are multi layered and full of spies both willing and unwilling - what about the ET races that are working the races that we believe that we know about?

    Look at the species on Earth itself - from a micro organism to an ant, then all those that feed on the ant - branching that off to birds and fish - it is a lot to consider. Where are we in this chain of space and interdimensional species?

    Remote viewing and channeling could be placed intentionally into our lives to confuse and distract us and we would not know the difference. The whole abduction scenario could be intended to just be there to lend confusion or anything else that could be imagined - I believe we are not in a position to know for sure.

    Many of us believe in past lives so we can also put faith in future lives. Consider that we are allowed to create information that will be saved and read in the future - maybe by our own future self. Yet, ET species know everything about us, so how could this play out? Yeah, too much - we are not in a position to know the truth yet. We might never be. Another ET species well advanced than ourselves might still be asking these same questions.

    So the best thing that I can do for my future self is to live my life as best I can. Deal with the things that come to me as best I can.

    I see so many things that are in my path - how can I judge which ones are more important than another considering everything that I have just posted?

    I will keep working this life to find my own balance each day as best I can - mind, body and spirit.

    Everything that I do contributes to this and either it all contributes to the whole, or there might be one important moment or action that I am here to achieve.

    Will we ever know the answer to this?

    One more thing - how many of us have had near death experiences? Fires, car accidents, drowning, etc. What happens at that moment? You react instinctively and get through it one way or another.

    This is why I don't worry about an earthquake, bomb or meteor. When and if it happens, I will react accordingly without much thought.

    If I die, (and one day I will ), I will move forward. Or sideways.
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    • What if Alien Souls reincarnate as Humans? ... just to experience what is like NOT to be part of an "Hive Mind" connected to overarching Cosmic Awareness.
    Then ... only then, they finally realize why we are in a big mess ... but at the same time having your own "Sovereignty Experience" can lead to new insights you never had before and you can not explain that to your (alien) "Soul Parents" who most likely refuses to leave their Hive Mind.
    • Just like "The Matrix" ... You never can understand "The Matrix" if you do not take the red pill ... similar psychology ... They do not get it and probably never will .. hence the "Earth vs The Universe" dilemma! ... (Earth being Quarantined) ... There are too many already interwoven and can not "solve" the weird "free will" paradox.
    We are judged because we do not want to be part of ANY "hive mind" control mechanism ... At the same time we have all kinds of terrible problems because of it.

    "ExoPsychology 101"

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    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)

    • What if Alien Souls reincarnate as Humans? ... just to experience what is like NOT to be part of an "Hive Mind" connected to overarching Cosmic Awareness.
    Then ... only then, they finally realize why we are in a big mess ... but at the same time having your own "Sovereignty Experience" can lead to new insights you never had before and you can not explain that to your (alien) "Soul Parents" who most likely refuses to leave their Hive Mind.
    • Just like "The Matrix" ... You never can understand "The Matrix" if you do not take the red pill ... similar psychology ... They do not get it and probably never will .. hence the "Earth vs The Universe" dilemma! ... (Earth being Quarantined) ... There are too many already interwoven and can not "solve" the weird "free will" paradox.
    We are judged because we do not want to be part of ANY "hive mind" control mechanism ... At the same time we have all kinds of terrible problems because of it.

    "ExoPsychology 101"

    cheers,
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    January 4th, 2022
    Another perspective; perhaps this is he problem! Perhaps they have been experiencing life as humans and have messed things up while trying to make it work they way they think it should?

    Maybe other species have done the same and are fighting each other while using us as their pawns?

    Or maybe WAY TOO MANY species have chose no participate and we have "too many cooks in the kitchen!"

    or maybe that is what you were saying and I was slow to catch up

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    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)

    • What if Alien Souls reincarnate as Humans? ... just to experience what is like NOT to be part of an "Hive Mind" connected to overarching Cosmic Awareness.
    Then ... only then, they finally realize why we are in a big mess ... but at the same time having your own "Sovereignty Experience" can lead to new insights you never had before and you can not explain that to your (alien) "Soul Parents" who most likely refuses to leave their Hive Mind.
    • Just like "The Matrix" ... You never can understand "The Matrix" if you do not take the red pill ... similar psychology ... They do not get it and probably never will .. hence the "Earth vs The Universe" dilemma! ... (Earth being Quarantined) ... There are too many already interwoven and can not "solve" the weird "free will" paradox.
    We are judged because we do not want to be part of ANY "hive mind" control mechanism ... At the same time we have all kinds of terrible problems because of it.

    "ExoPsychology 101"

    cheers,
    John Kuhles aka 'ExomatrixTV'
    January 4th, 2022
    I read an account of a bigfoot elder communicating with a human (kiwaunee) to give their perspective on earth and humanity. One interesting idea communicated was that all the sasquatch were connected by their collective group soul, and that nothing could be hidden from each other. If one of their species interacted with a human, the rest of them knew about it and would know what to expect from that human. Having a conscious connection with their collective soul did not prevent individuality, it just made everyone honest. I didn't get the impression that a 'hive mind' (as in star Trek's Borg) was in play. This is just a different form of consciousness

    I think humanity is in dire need to become aware of its spirituality. If we do become aware, we'll not got sucked into thinking that materialism is so important, that it is all transitory as an illusion. Remembering past lives, and between lives, would help us understand what we spiritually are going through. Also, our priorities would change drastically if we each knew what our life's purpose is.

    Regarding the ET agenda, if spiritually aware we would be less gullible and likely less vulnerable to the malelovant ETs tricks.

    I don't think that becoming soul aware means we lose our individuality, it means we become more honest and less vulnerable while still keeping our individuality and free will.

    Hopefully I didn't misinterpret your point, John, but even if so, this is likely what soul awareness means on a free will planet.

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    I do not per se believe in "one" Alien negative or positive agenda.

    I give the theory of the 'Melting Pot' some credits because it seems plausible to me and is also information that was given (don't ask me by whom please, but I think it was several sources).

    That means that when the planet was seeded and also afterwards 'in between' many species / races from all over the place came here and intermingled genetically to participate. It is to see in this 'experiment' (Earth might of course only be one of many Melting Pot planets) how they get along.

    Many ETs - as was mentioned above - have indeed a more interconnected consciousness - or a so-called a hive mind like most of the insectoids will surely have - our insects also have as it seems.

    However, all ET folks are still differnt to each other among the races/species. So this for me is somehow about a galactic test and long term experiment over millenia or even the entire Earth life cycle on how they all get along in one world as individuals without their hive minds.

    I also believe that Star Trek's "Prime Directive" so far is real. No interference - at least no direct action - to see how it plays out. Yes, there were possible infringements over the course of Earth history when they 'came down' as Gods to influence certain societies.

    I cannot say anything about the catalclysmic thing. We had too many doomsdays passing without anything happening over the course of history. So we need to wait and see.

    Some talk about an "Event" and that sth might be happening but we still do not know if it is a real one-off cataclysm or just a change spanning over years, decades or even centuries.

    Many of "them" are watching and waiting for 'something' to happen, no doubt but what it is (could also be sth positive, at least in the end!) we don't know for sure.

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    Thanks for your thoughts Bill.

    This is such a wide and broad topic, actually the UFO phenomenon was probably my first interest in this alternative scene and that was way before even I even knew about these websites and all, I was just always interested in space, UFO's and well... ET's. That's what got me started before all the knowledge about past lifes and all those darn conspiracies.

    I don't know if you have seen Gigi Young's videos, but in this one and a few other videos of her including the last one about Atlantis she talks about the ET's and their agenda. I had seen her name here before, but I thought that she's just "one of those new agers". Well, that was a mistake of mine, because she is actually a very accurate intuitive psychic and a researcher too it seems. I was surprised to see how knowledgeable she is and she helped me to connect some dots too, I have been studying these things for a good while now. Her videos are quite long, but you can always just jump to the part you find most interesting. I highly recommend them, she is definitely worth her salt and I don't say that easily because believe it or not I tend to be a bit skeptical too!

    As anyone can guess, the transhumanist agenda is not the good one. The negative Orion faction has been here enslaving humanity for a very long time and they're all about domination, control and keeping us in fear. They feed on those lower vibrational energies. Then there is the good side too which is helping us, but it is more behind the scenes and performing inside job kind of stuff in order not to violate the law of free will if you know what I mean. It is unfortunate that there is so much misinformation and hoaxes in this area and maybe for a reason so that people wouldn't be able to decipher the truth from fiction. However as they say in X-Files, the truth is out there!

    We all know deep down that something is coming, but we are not sure what it is. Change is about to come though and I do believe that it is true that in a certain sense around the year 2025 this "old age" starts to be over. That's when we will really start to see which road humanity will decide to take collectively. The one which will lead to collective healing and thriving or the opposite of that.

    There are the natural cycles which will happen no matter what and we are already seeing the effects of those meaning extreme weather events and such, also the mini ice age seems plausible and also there is always the possibility of a carrington event and some other kind of cosmic blasts. Then there are the manufactured agendas, just like the one big one we are seeing right now. There will probably be more of those because "the elite" has their idea how humanity should be and look like in the next few decades, they possibly know that new higher vibrational energies are flowing to Earth and they want to keep people as dumbed down as possible, in a very low vibrational state. That's what it always really boils down to, energy and a state of being. In what kind of a state of being are we right now collectively?

    What kind of reality will we choose to co-create? One filled with dread, fear, chaos, division, destruction and death just exactly like the parasites that be want or a collective reality of peace, harmony, equality, love and unity? What we focus on our energies, thoughts and beliefs will become our reality. That's how the law of manifestation really works.

    Astrologically inclined people might want to take a look at this too.

    Quote Are We Entering the Age of Aquarius?

    If Uranus awakens us to a Transpersonal individuality, Neptune “dreams” us into a new Transpersonal collective awareness. During the time Uranus was awakening new Aquarian energies in each of us, Neptune began its transit of Aquarius. From early 1998 through early 2012, Neptune weaved and blended that awakened Aquarian energy into the holographic matrix of both collective consciousness as well as the collective unconscious. When Pluto eventually crosses those same points, it will awaken the seeds of the Aquarian era, which will look very differently than most 20th century thinkers suspect.

    Still, because these Transpersonal planets represent the invisible long wave transformational energies of Spirit, all of this momentous activity in Aquarius is just a prelude to the next Great Age of 2100+ years, which will take clearer shape in the world as Jupiter and Saturn move through that sign in 2020-2023, setting structures and opening pathways in Aquarius which Pluto will begin to give life to in March 2023 when it enters Aquarius for the first time since it last left that sign in December 1798. After those Plutonic seeds have sprouted and been purified between 2023 and 2043, we shall see even newer Aquarian structures and efforts when Saturn again transits Aquarius beginning 2050.

    What was awakened by Uranus and “tag teamed” into collective consciousness by Neptune will begin to sprout into widespread global transformative pulses beginning in 2023 and intensify in 2024 with Pluto’s entry into Aquarius. This marks the advent of the "Spring of the 21st Century," when Pluto will activate the seeds of the coming era. The last time Pluto transited Aquarius was the beginning of this transitional era between Great Ages about 240 years ago, and like then, we confront the edge of a huge historical shift in mass consciousness which completely transformed humanity.

    All the Aquarian patterns were re-set with the latest Uranus and Neptune transits of Aquarius at the end of the 20th and beginning of the 21st centuries. Saturn will soon give us brand new structures as it makes its first transit of Aquarius in this new Uranus/Neptune awakened Aquarian dream. These will be the structures which Pluto will use to begin a new 250 year Aquarian era after it enters that sign in 2023 and stays through 2044.

    As I’ve mentioned in previous articles, in the “century cycle” each century has 4 “seasons.” The first 25 years are the “Winter” of a century, while the second 25 years are the “Spring” of that century. So when Pluto enters Aquarius, it will launch the “Spring” of the 21st century, when collectively we shall awaken from the “Winter” of 2000-2025, and see the growth of what this coming century is all about. It will certainly be a welcome change from the barrenness of what has been and is, and will be a period where much that is good will be redeemed from the wreckage of the destroyed failed systems we presently live within.

    During that season of 2025-2050, Pluto will reawaken the seeds of Life-Light that humanity is in its collective nature, and we shall see things not dreamed of in hundreds, if not thousands, of years. The collective will become aware of things that up to now have been revolutionary ideas and ideals dreamed and revealed by the trailblazers who have tuned into the Uranian and Neptunian patterns.
    Last edited by Wind; 4th January 2022 at 21:33.
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