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    Quote Posted by PlasmaVortex (here)
    Not sure what's taking place here, but at the same time I'm strangely compelled
    Interesting .... is it not?

    Information being removed from view .... and no one cares?

    ¤=[Post Update]=¤

    If it was a few thousand posts, like facetwat social media does .... everyone would go nuts!

    near 6 million posts removed by a well known alternative celeb .... silence!

    ¤=[Post Update]=¤

    I guess that my problem is that I was there .... so I have a greater comprehension of what happened even though I could never get an actual reason!

    But 5.8 million posts (all that time people spent creating those posts) .... is a lot.
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    --o-O-o--
    Investigators now believe the late Top of the Pops host preyed on around 500 vulnerable victims as young as two years old.
    quote: "In January 2013, a joint report by the NSPCC and Metropolitan Police, "Giving Victims a Voice", stated that 450 people had made complaints against Savile, with the period of alleged abuse stretching from 1955 to 2009 and the ages of the complainants at the time of the assaults ranging from 8 to 47. The suspected victims included 28 children aged under 10, including 10 boys aged as young as 8. A further 63 were girls aged between 13 and 16 and nearly three-quarters of his victims were under 18. Some 214 criminal offenses were recorded, with 34 rapes having been reported across 28 police forces. Savile was never charged during his lifetime". unquote
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    snip ....
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    to bear witness to this struggle of wills between two heavyweights of the forum
    As you changed you post, I feel complied to respond .... lol

    I am no "heavy weight" .... more like a twat!

    What should I do when I know for a fact that near 6 million post have been removed from view for "no reason given"?

    Really .... what should I do?

    Ignore it .... as most do.
    That is a choice.

    Not keen on that choice.

    What do I do with what I know about the deletion of 5.8 million posts by a well known alternative media celebrity?

    It is interesting to me that near no one cares.
    In fact .... that is maybe the most sadding aspect of it.

    Book burning .... by those shouting for the books to be saved.

    And I know it.

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    --o-O-o--
    Investigators now believe the late Top of the Pops host preyed on around 500 vulnerable victims as young as two years old.
    quote: "In January 2013, a joint report by the NSPCC and Metropolitan Police, "Giving Victims a Voice", stated that 450 people had made complaints against Savile, with the period of alleged abuse stretching from 1955 to 2009 and the ages of the complainants at the time of the assaults ranging from 8 to 47. The suspected victims included 28 children aged under 10, including 10 boys aged as young as 8. A further 63 were girls aged between 13 and 16 and nearly three-quarters of his victims were under 18. Some 214 criminal offenses were recorded, with 34 rapes having been reported across 28 police forces. Savile was never charged during his lifetime". unquote
    Where is the "Timeline" John?
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    Quote Posted by lake (here)
    Where is the "Timeline" John?
    You can not see it? Wow! I even made it red for you! ... see again here!
    Most information (vast majority of it) of the old David Icke Forum is NOT UNIQUE nor "exclusive" and most who participated did not stop sharing their knowledge and moved on elsewhere as grown ups do! Not dwelling in the past. Educating the masses will still continue, especially if you know there are 100s (if not 1000s) of other (conspiracy research) platforms to go to!

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    John .... Please continue what you are doing .... just makes me laugh.

    Go get the removed thread.

    If you can't do that then you lose.

    This thread:
    https://forum.davidicke.com/index.ph...of-savile-etc/
    but from the internet as you say

    Then go and get the other 5.8 MILLION posts removed by a well known alternative media celeb .... Post them ALL here and I will still ask you "Why where they removed by said celeb?"

    I was there John .... I have greater information about it than you do.

    But keep trying to be right and build up your "tag cloud" on this forum .... lol

    whatever .... sad really!
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    British entertainer Jimmy Savile sexually abused children and adults over six decades, using his celebrity status to attack his victims and avoid prosecution.

    Here is a timeline showing how Savile carried out his campaign of abuse, according to a report by police and the National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children released on Thursday:
    — 1926 —
    Jimmy Savile born in Leeds, northern England. Works as a coal miner in World War II until suffering spinal injuries in an accident, then becomes a disc jockey at local dance halls.
    — 1955 —
    First reported incident of sexual abuse, in Manchester, northwest England.
    — 1958 —
    Savile begins career as entertainer, working for Radio Luxembourg.
    — 1964 —
    Savile starts career at the BBC, presenting first edition of chart show “Top of the Pops”.
    — 1965 —
    First reported offence of abuse at the BBC. The last will be in 2006.
    First reported abuse at Leeds General Hospital, where Savile volunteered as a night porter (abuse continues until 1995), and at Stoke Mandeville Hospital for spinal injuries (abuse continues until 1988).
    — 1966 to 1976 —
    Peak period of reported abuse, when Savile was between 40 and 50 years old and at peak of fame.
    — 1970 —
    First reported offence at Duncroft School for girls (until 1978).
    — 1971 —
    Savile awarded OBE (Order of the British Empire)
    — 1975 to 1994 —
    Savile presents “Jim’ll Fix It”, a BBC programme in which he made children’s wishes come true.
    — 1980s —
    Woman reportedly tells police she was assaulted in Saviles camper van in a BBC car park when she was in her 20s, but no trace of police file is found.
    — 1990 —
    Savile receives knighthood and Papal knighthood.
    — 2000 —
    In documentary by presenter Louis Theroux, Savile denies rumours that he is a paedophile.
    — 2003 —
    Woman tells London police Savile inappropriately touched her on “Top of the Pops” in 1973. She refuses to proceed without other victims.
    — 2006 —
    Savile abuses teenage girl during final recording of “Top of the Pops” — his last reported offence at the BBC.
    — 2007 to 2008 —
    Surrey Police in southern England receive claims that Savile abused two women at Duncroft School and a third at Stoke Mandeville hospital, all in the 1970s. Another woman tells police in Sussex, also in southern England, she was abused in a caravan in the 1970s.
    Savile considered during investigation into abuse at Haut de La Garenne children’s home in Jersey.
    — 2009–
    Final attack by Savile: puts hand up skirt of 43-year-old woman on a train between Leeds and London.
    Savile interviewed by police but Crown Prosecution Service says there is insufficient evidence to take any further action as complainants won’t testify.
    — 2011 —
    Savile dies on October 29.
    After his death, BBC’s flagship current affairs programme “Newsnight” shelves programme featuring allegations against Savile.
    — 2012 —
    October 3: ITV, BBC’s commercial rival, broadcasts show featuring five women who claim Savile abused them.
    October 7: Prime Minister David Cameron urges full investigation.
    October 9: Scotland Yard opens “Operation Yewtree” to probe Savile allegations. Police later arrest comedian Freddie Starr, pop star Gary Glitter, former radio DJ Dave Lee Travis, PR guru Max Clifford and TV comedian Jim Davidson. All strongly deny any offences.
    October 12: BBC announces two inquiries — one into the abandoning of the Newsnight show, and a second into the “culture and practices” of the BBC when Savile worked there.
    November 11: BBC director general George Entwistle resigns after a separate Newsnight investigation into child abuse wrongly implicates a former senior Conservative politician.
    — 2013 —
    January 11: Scotland Yard and NSPCC release report into Savile abuse.
    11 years after his death, a new Netflix documentary looking into the crimes of Jimmy Savile is being released - including terrifying footage of the monster - but how did the case against him unfold?
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    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    British entertainer Jimmy Savile sexually abused children and adults over six decades, using his celebrity status to attack his victims and avoid prosecution.

    Here is a timeline showing how Savile carried out his campaign of abuse, according to a report by police and the National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children released on Thursday:
    — 1926 —
    Jimmy Savile born in Leeds, northern England. Works as a coal miner in World War II until suffering spinal injuries in an accident, then becomes a disc jockey at local dance halls.
    — 1955 —
    First reported incident of sexual abuse, in Manchester, northwest England.
    — 1958 —
    Savile begins career as entertainer, working for Radio Luxembourg.
    — 1964 —
    Savile starts career at the BBC, presenting first edition of chart show “Top of the Pops”.
    — 1965 —
    First reported offence of abuse at the BBC. The last will be in 2006.
    First reported abuse at Leeds General Hospital, where Savile volunteered as a night porter (abuse continues until 1995), and at Stoke Mandeville Hospital for spinal injuries (abuse continues until 1988).
    — 1966 to 1976 —
    Peak period of reported abuse, when Savile was between 40 and 50 years old and at peak of fame.
    — 1970 —
    First reported offence at Duncroft School for girls (until 1978).
    — 1971 —
    Savile awarded OBE (Order of the British Empire)
    — 1975 to 1994 —
    Savile presents “Jim’ll Fix It”, a BBC programme in which he made children’s wishes come true.
    — 1980s —
    Woman reportedly tells police she was assaulted in Saviles camper van in a BBC car park when she was in her 20s, but no trace of police file is found.
    — 1990 —
    Savile receives knighthood and Papal knighthood.
    — 2000 —
    In documentary by presenter Louis Theroux, Savile denies rumours that he is a paedophile.
    — 2003 —
    Woman tells London police Savile inappropriately touched her on “Top of the Pops” in 1973. She refuses to proceed without other victims.
    — 2006 —
    Savile abuses teenage girl during final recording of “Top of the Pops” — his last reported offence at the BBC.
    — 2007 to 2008 —
    Surrey Police in southern England receive claims that Savile abused two women at Duncroft School and a third at Stoke Mandeville hospital, all in the 1970s. Another woman tells police in Sussex, also in southern England, she was abused in a caravan in the 1970s.
    Savile considered during investigation into abuse at Haut de La Garenne children’s home in Jersey.
    — 2009–
    Final attack by Savile: puts hand up skirt of 43-year-old woman on a train between Leeds and London.
    Savile interviewed by police but Crown Prosecution Service says there is insufficient evidence to take any further action as complainants won’t testify.
    — 2011 —
    Savile dies on October 29.
    After his death, BBC’s flagship current affairs programme “Newsnight” shelves programme featuring allegations against Savile.
    — 2012 —
    October 3: ITV, BBC’s commercial rival, broadcasts show featuring five women who claim Savile abused them.
    October 7: Prime Minister David Cameron urges full investigation.
    October 9: Scotland Yard opens “Operation Yewtree” to probe Savile allegations. Police later arrest comedian Freddie Starr, pop star Gary Glitter, former radio DJ Dave Lee Travis, PR guru Max Clifford and TV comedian Jim Davidson. All strongly deny any offences.
    October 12: BBC announces two inquiries — one into the abandoning of the Newsnight show, and a second into the “culture and practices” of the BBC when Savile worked there.
    November 11: BBC director general George Entwistle resigns after a separate Newsnight investigation into child abuse wrongly implicates a former senior Conservative politician.
    — 2013 —
    January 11: Scotland Yard and NSPCC release report into Savile abuse.
    11 years after his death, a new Netflix documentary looking into the crimes of Jimmy Savile is being released - including terrifying footage of the monster - but how did the case against him unfold?
    a n d t h a t s i t ?

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    a n d t h a t s i t ?

    lol

    --o-O-o--
    Investigators now believe the late Top of the Pops host preyed on around 500 vulnerable victims as young as two years old.
    quote: "In January 2013, a joint report by the NSPCC and Metropolitan Police, "Giving Victims a Voice", stated that 450 people had made complaints against Savile, with the period of alleged abuse stretching from 1955 to 2009 and the ages of the complainants at the time of the assaults ranging from 8 to 47. The suspected victims included 28 children aged under 10, including 10 boys aged as young as 8. A further 63 were girls aged between 13 and 16 and nearly three-quarters of his victims were under 18. Some 214 criminal offenses were recorded, with 34 rapes having been reported across 28 police forces. Savile was never charged during his lifetime". unquote
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    Quote Posted by lake (here)

    a n d t h a t s i t ?

    lol

    --o-O-o--
    Investigators now believe the late Top of the Pops host preyed on around 500 vulnerable victims as young as two years old.
    quote: "In January 2013, a joint report by the NSPCC and Metropolitan Police, "Giving Victims a Voice", stated that 450 people had made complaints against Savile, with the period of alleged abuse stretching from 1955 to 2009 and the ages of the complainants at the time of the assaults ranging from 8 to 47. The suspected victims included 28 children aged under 10, including 10 boys aged as young as 8. A further 63 were girls aged between 13 and 16 and nearly three-quarters of his victims were under 18. Some 214 criminal offenses were recorded, with 34 rapes having been reported across 28 police forces. Savile was never charged during his lifetime". unquote
    Where is the thread John?


    You said that it was all over the internet John .... WHERE IS IT JOHN?
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    Quote Posted by lake (here)
    What should I do when I know for a fact that near 6 million post have been removed from view for "no reason given"?

    Really .... what should I do?
    If that is the question, historically, there is NO known actionable course that I am aware of that will ultimately always restore ALL the removed information.

    It is frustrating, disappointing, infuriating for sure. But even if masses of people protested, chances are a reason may be given that people will distrust and argue over anyway. And then they will continue speculating.

    And speculating is about all we can do, besides getting it from the horses mouth. (But do we always trust the horse?)

    hmmmm - I Wonder exactly who and why they destroyed the Library of Alexandria, and what all was in it....
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    (edit to add - maybe eventually we will find it ALL there in the Akashic Record! yay)
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    Where is the thread John?

    You said that it was all over the internet John .... WHERE IS IT JOHN?
    I did not claim "everything" is archived but most is ... I checked myself ... and my points are still valid: most if not all intel can be found on multiple places because all who participated on the old David Icke forum are not stopping to educate the masses ... and it was not "exclusive" content to begin with!

    Be smarter!

    Most information (vast majority of it) of the old David Icke Forum is NOT UNIQUE nor "exclusive" and most who participated did not stop sharing their knowledge and moved on elsewhere as grown ups do! Not dwelling in the past. Educating the masses will still continue, especially if you know there are 100s (if not 1000s) of other (conspiracy research) platforms to go to!

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    So where is the information John?

    Or is it actually NOT all over the internet and you are wrong!
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    Quote Posted by Sue (Ayt) (here)
    Quote Posted by lake (here)
    What should I do when I know for a fact that near 6 million post have been removed from view for "no reason given"?

    Really .... what should I do?
    If that is the question, historically, there is NO known actionable course that I am aware of that will ultimately always restore ALL the removed information.

    It is frustrating, disappointing, infuriating for sure. But even if masses of people protested, chances are a reason may be given that people will distrust and argue over anyway. And then they will continue speculating.

    And speculating is about all we can do, besides getting it from the horses mouth. (But do we always trust the horse?)

    hmmmm - I Wonder exactly who and why they destroyed the Library of Alexandria, and what all was in it....
    grrrrr

    (edit to add - maybe eventually we will find it ALL there in the Akashic Record! yay)
    Dear Sue .... I do not know what to do!

    I hate (strong word and feeling) that all the 'time' so many people put into information was just removed.
    It is not about this realm .... information for people to have available .... there is so much I do not know.

    But .... I know it was done with purpose.
    I have 2 considerations as to "why".
    I know that "lies" are involved.

    There is actually rather "much" I know .... All I want is for the information to be returned (not going to happen) or for a "reason" (truthful would be good, hiding nothing).

    It just annoys me that so much time devoted by so many can just be removed in a 'blink of an eye'!
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    So where is the information John?

    Or is it actually NOT all over the internet and you are wrong!
    I know you want all of it and maybe 0,01% is "super unique" and "super-duper exclusive" and "live changing" (think not) ... but hey so is Project Avalon Forum we too have some exclusive insights & content ... We maybe have even much more to offer concerning the truth about Jimmy Savile, but you do not really care about that, correct? ... You are projecting a drama that is based upon dwelling way too much on self-importance ... if you are so smart why did you not make backups in the first place? ... or do you just love to play the "victim card" forever?
    • In my view, victim mentality only breeds more victim reality.
    • Move on, learn from mistakes (David Icke dependency issues) as you are much better if you are not stuck in old dramas! ... Exceed your own (drama based) conditioning!
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    I wonder if you can answer a straight forward question John?

    I don't think that you can as I have never seen you do so!

    I will try

    Question:

    Do you think that the removal from view of a forum which held 5.8 million posts of information gathered over more than a decade .... helps or hinders people as a mass?

    Simple question John .... I ask for a reply to the actual question.
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    Quote Posted by lake (here)
    I wonder if you can answer a straight forward question John?

    I don't think that you can as I have never seen you do so!

    I will try

    Question:

    Do you think that the removal from view of a forum which held 5.8 million posts of information gathered over more than a decade .... helps or hinders people as a mass?

    Simple question John .... I ask for a reply to the actual question.

    I did not claim "everything" is archived but most is ... I checked myself ... and my points are still valid: most if not all intel can be found on multiple places because all who participated on the old David Icke forum are not stopping to educate the masses ... and it was not "exclusive" content to begin with!
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    Quote Posted by lake (here)
    I wonder if you can answer a straight forward question John?

    I don't think that you can as I have never seen you do so!

    I will try

    Question:

    Do you think that the removal from view of a forum which held 5.8 million posts of information gathered over more than a decade .... helps or hinders people as a mass?

    Simple question John .... I ask for a reply to the actual question.

    I did not claim "everything" is archived but most is ... I checked myself ... and my points are still valid: most if not all intel can be found on multiple places because all who participated on the old David Icke forum are not stopping to educate the masses ... and it was not "exclusive" content to begin with!
    John it is a simple question ....Do you think that the removal from view of a forum which held 5.8 million posts of information gathered over more than a decade .... helps or hinders people as a mass?
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    Default Re: When an Accusation like 'Controlled Opposition' loses its value!

    Mod note from Bill:

    Enough. I'm closing the thread. This continuing exchange (between just two people) is no fun to read, is trivial, and is not what the forum is for. Look at the absence of thanks on the posts. That may tell us how interesting or valuable this is to others.

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