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    Mod note from Bill:

    There's a danger that this discussion might start to get acrimonious. I know that's not anyone's wish or intention. But it's quite an emotional issue for some, and I understand why.

    As best I know, there's not much doubt that any kind of Wifi (3G, 4G, 5G) can be detrimental to health. There are many case studies, easily found. I'd be fairly sure that some people are more sensitive to it than others — as is often the case with many things that might impact on health.

    But personally, just like I filter my water and avoid any kind of toxins if I can, I make sure there's no Wifi signal in my bedroom. It's not 5G, but I regard Wifi as a potential toxin, too, and I'm aiming to replace the Wifi with a fiber-optic cable so that my entire internet connection is hard-wired and barely radiating at all.

    There's nothing natural about Wifi radiation. I'd contend fairly strongly that it's justifiable, at least for some people, to treat it with some concern.

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    Bill, thanks for this, I have all my main connections hard-wired, and my technical guy does the same for his home.
    Many years ago, after my and my partner’s researches, we had a whole new computer department moved due to potential microwave and electronic interference. It worked very well after that.
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    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/16/s...ss-cancer.html
    " Dr. Curry’s flawed reports were amplified by alarmist websites, prompted articles linking cellphones to brain cancer and served as evidence in lawsuits urging the removal of wireless classroom technology. In time, echoes of his reports fed Russian news sites noted for stoking misinformation about 5G technology. What began as a simple graph became a case study in how bad science can take root and flourish."

    "In his research, Dr. Curry looked at studies on how radio waves affect tissues isolated in the lab, and misinterpreted the results as applying to cells deep inside the human body. His analysis failed to recognize the protective effect of human skin. At higher radio frequencies, the skin acts as a barrier, shielding the internal organs, including the brain, from exposure. Human skin blocks the even higher frequencies of sunlight."

    “It doesn’t penetrate,” said Christopher M. Collins, a professor of radiology at New York University who studies the effect of high-frequency electromagnetic waves on humans. Dr. Curry’s graph, he added, failed to take into account “the shielding effect.”
    Hmmmmm.

    Oh, and it's no coincidence that RT pillories 5G, while official policy embraces it in Mother Russia. Why hasn't Russia blocked 5G, in line with their propaganda organs?

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    For every New York Times article that's cited, there's one (or more!) to be found that look rather like this:

    https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7405337

    Health risks from radiofrequency radiation, including 5G, should be assessed by experts with no conflicts of interest
    Abstract

    The fifth generation, 5G, of radiofrequency (RF) radiation is about to be implemented globally without investigating the risks to human health and the environment. This has created debate among concerned individuals in numerous countries.

    In an appeal to the European Union (EU) in September 2017, currently endorsed by >390 scientists and medical doctors, a moratorium on 5G deployment was requested until proper scientific evaluation of potential negative consequences has been conducted. This request has not been acknowledged by the EU.

    The evaluation of RF radiation health risks from 5G technology is ignored in a report by a government expert group in Switzerland and a recent publication from The International Commission on Non-Ionizing Radiation Protection. Conflicts of interest and ties to the industry seem to have contributed to the biased reports.

    The lack of proper unbiased risk evaluation of the 5G technology places populations at risk. Furthermore, there seems to be a cartel of individuals monopolizing evaluation committees, thus reinforcing the no-risk paradigm. We believe that this activity should qualify as scientific misconduct.

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    I wonder if the New York Times editorial team consists of "experts with no conflicts of interest".

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    I find it one solid argument against 5G that many airlines worldwide have successfully petitioned governments to not permit 5G towers near airports. If (rather since) 5G presents a danger to electronics and related systems, it is completely rationale to conclude that it presents a danger to humans and other life forms.

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    https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/...n_compares_to/
    "Solar radiation amounts to roughly 1 kW per m2 on a clear day at sealevel...
    "WiFi routers (2.4 & 5 GHz)... range from 20 mW to 100 mW for standard off-the-shelf model...
    " If we're at 5 m distance from the router, that means that we receive about 0.25% of the total power output ...
    "Now, lets go outside and lie on our back (or front) in the grass. We'll be taking in about 800 W or 3.2 million times more than what we'd get from our router. There are 525,600 minutes in a year, so you do receive more radiation, in terms of energy, from a minute of sunbathing than a year of standing at 5 m from a powerful WiFi router."
    If you really feel threatened by low, medium and high band 5G, do not go into the sunlight unprotected.

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    Tell it to the dead bees, Mirage.
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    This really is an old argument that fear rather than 5G /EMFs does the damage. This type of accusation was flung at people early on years back and that formed the springboard for countless investigations into its harmful effects on people, birds, bees, plants etc. We have long since gone past the idea that the tumour found in people's heads where cell phones were held is because they were in fear. This is an ancient cracked pot you are stirring Mirage and I don't see the point.

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    When you have some people who refuse to really study all sources connected to legit concerns dealing with Prolonged Erratic Pulsed Microwave Radiation Exposure and calling it: "5g fear porn" ... Even one of the Avalonians decided to add that tag-name to this Project Avalon Forum Thread but is chicken to come forward to take responsibility for this cowardly act.

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    I think I'll take the plant's word for it



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