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    Default Footage Showing US Soldiers Talking About Various Alien Beings

    What do you avalonians think about this....

    This recent video was leaked all over the internet, garnering very different responses from all around the globe. In this footage, you can clearly see a group of army soldiers openly discussing aliens and all that there is to them. The video went viral almost overnight, mainly thanks to the relaxed tone used by the soldiers.

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    There's an authenticity to it, they feel like US soldiers, they speak over each other as happens in real life, there's a shaky hand held camera, an interruption to the meeting etc. They're making fun of it with some daft jokes as soldiers do. All of which lends a feeling of credibility, all of which could be faked.

    The biggest argument against it is its existence. Why is the briefing being filmed? Why would OPSEC be breached by sharing it outside, risking serious punishment?

    I don't know what to believe to be honest. Could be real, could be deliberate disinformation, part of a psy-op, could've been filmed in Vladivostok or Shanghai or at Area 51, or it could turn out to be viral marketing for a new movie.

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    Default Re: Footage Showing US Soldiers Talking About Various Alien Beings

    How old is this video? The sound is not great where I am but I’m sure I heard them making a reference to 21/12/2012 as a future event.

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    Default Re: Footage Showing US Soldiers Talking About Various Alien Beings

    It all looks very plausible, the constant swearing is authentic (!) From everything that is being revealed from the military quarter we know engagement with ET people is certain

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    Default Re: Footage Showing US Soldiers Talking About Various Alien Beings

    Quote Posted by Journeyman (here)
    There's an authenticity to it, they feel like US soldiers, they speak over each other as happens in real life, there's a shaky hand held camera, an interruption to the meeting etc. They're making fun of it with some daft jokes as soldiers do. All of which lends a feeling of credibility, all of which could be faked.

    The biggest argument against it is its existence. Why is the briefing being filmed? Why would OPSEC be breached by sharing it outside, risking serious punishment?

    I don't know what to believe to be honest. Could be real, could be deliberate disinformation, part of a psy-op, could've been filmed in Vladivostok or Shanghai or at Area 51, or it could turn out to be viral marketing for a new movie.


    re bolded above - it was the (deliberate?) shaky camera that first alerted me to it being a set up of some kind - either an internet prank type thing, disinformation OR a method of disclosure..?... I mean c'mon - isn't it possible to hold the camera steadier than this and as it is all obviously being filmed - are they all playing to camera? But it's being made to look spontaneous... with a lot of swearing added for good measure...?

    it reminded me of all the shaky UFO videos -

    so my verdict is............ I have serious reservations about it's authenticity
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    Quote Posted by jaybee (here)
    Quote Posted by Journeyman (here)
    There's an authenticity to it, they feel like US soldiers, they speak over each other as happens in real life, there's a shaky hand held camera, an interruption to the meeting etc. They're making fun of it with some daft jokes as soldiers do. All of which lends a feeling of credibility, all of which could be faked.

    The biggest argument against it is its existence. Why is the briefing being filmed? Why would OPSEC be breached by sharing it outside, risking serious punishment?

    I don't know what to believe to be honest. Could be real, could be deliberate disinformation, part of a psy-op, could've been filmed in Vladivostok or Shanghai or at Area 51, or it could turn out to be viral marketing for a new movie.


    re bolded above - it was the (deliberate?) shaky camera that first alerted me to it being a set up of some kind - either an internet prank type thing, disinformation OR a method of disclosure..?... I mean c'mon - isn't it possible to hold the camera steadier than this and as it is all obviously being filmed - are all playing to camera? But it's being made to look spontaneous... with a lot of swearing added for good measure...?

    it reminded me of all the shaky UFO videos -

    so my verdict is............ I have serious reservations about it's authenticity
    Yeah, I didn't link the two together in the previous post but it goes along with the 'why is it being filmed?' If it's being filmed for operational reasons then you'd expect a tripod, proper framing, classification on the film, probably a way of identifying any frame etc.

    None of that's there, at which point you have to believe that trained soldiers on top secret missions are whipping out their phones, filming classified info and then letting it be distributed. Which doesn't happen, because no-one wants to spend 30 years in a military prison.

    So I agree, the shaky cam is one more indication of a likely fake.

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    That's pretty interesting. It does sound fully authentic to me. The guy being filmed seems to be very confident of his information, some of which is very detailed.

    A few notes:
    • This is dated to Obama's presidency (2008-2016). ("I'm pretty sure he knows", says the guy being filmed.) The video upload date is Apr 17, 2012.
    • The video was taken with a hand-held iPhone (though everyone in the room must have been able to see that.)
    • Serpo is mentioned once, just after 3:55 ("their planet was destroyed, so they had to go to Serpo") and the exchange program is also referenced later. (Though the details are wrong, and so it's hearsay: the actual number of military astronauts who went on the exchange was three, not twelve.)

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    Default Re: Footage Showing US Soldiers Talking About Various Alien Beings

    Bill, how much ... faith (?) do you put in Serpo today, on a percentage scale.
    No smoke without fire is my take, be it credible or incredible.
    Any updates anywhere on the whole affair ?
    Interesting video though.

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    Bill, how much ... faith (?) do you put in Serpo today, on a percentage scale.
    No smoke without fire is my take, be it credible or incredible.
    Any updates anywhere on the whole affair ?
    Interesting video though.
    The exchange program certainly happened. See this thread:
    There was quite a lot of silly disinfo in the 2005-2006 Serpo releases, but the core story was real. The main difference is that only 3 military astronauts went on the exchange program (not 12). Linda Howe published their names once, but I believe that's now behind her Earthfiles paywall. John Lear, Bob Emenegger, and Bill Hamilton all independently confirmed that real number to me.

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    Default Re: Footage Showing US Soldiers Talking About Various Alien Beings

    It all seems real to me.
    Most in the room have no actual idea (SO not falsely briefed), all seem inexperienced and view possible conflict in gun-oh way as those of a film, like 'Independence day'

    Wonder what experiences these guys have had by now.
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    Although interesting this does not strike me as a "briefing" and the presenter just seems like an average person that spends quite a bit of time down the rabbit hole. He is really only promulgating "popular" theories but does not speak from a position of experience or formal training in these areas....

    At best he has spent a bit too much time watching Ancient Aliens, but I DO LIKE that the soldiers are not hostile or dismissive of the information he shares. They seem curious.

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    Quote Posted by Mare (here)
    How old is this video? The sound is not great where I am but I’m sure I heard them making a reference to 21/12/2012 as a future event.
    This video was uploaded 10 years ago on April 17, 2012 - 858,274 views and the subscriber count is low. The article was posted January 21, 2022. It’ll be interesting to see how fast the views increase.


    UPDATE: Bill, I'm reading the posts in order. I've just come to yours where you answered Mare's question.
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    Quote Posted by CurEus (here)
    Although interesting this does not strike me as a "briefing" and the presenter just seems like an average person that spends quite a bit of time down the rabbit hole. He is really only promulgating "popular" theories but does not speak from a position of experience or formal training in these areas....

    At best he has spent a bit too much time watching Ancient Aliens, but I DO LIKE that the soldiers are not hostile or dismissive of the information he shares. They seem curious.
    Yes, it wasn't anything formal. (Or else it'd not have stayed on YouTube for 5 minutes!) It sounds like an Army instructor was just adding some personal thoughts about ETs to what maybe had been a formal briefing on something totally different.

    But some of his responses really did seem like he knew something. (For instance, the ETs who had "moved to Serpo after a war" is nothing that's ever been anywhere on the internet. I'm quite sure of that.)

    Of interest, Camelot witness 'Henry Deacon' told Kerry Cassidy and myself that he had actually once attended a formal briefing on the entire ET situation. All he told us (my close paraphrase from memory) was that it was extremely intricate and complicated, he could hardly remember most of it, and the guy who presented it "must have had an IQ of 190" to present it all.

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    Bill, I vaguely remember you and Kerry tracking one of the surviving Serpo returnees down, and you went to visit unsuccessfully. That was years ago, Am I correct? Your Serpo revelations were what made me join the 1st forum. The famous members there were absolutely amazing, sadly most now passed.
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    Quote Posted by avid (here)
    Bill, I vaguely remember you and Kerry tracking one of the surviving Serpo returnees down, and you went to visit unsuccessfully. That was years ago, Am I correct? Your Serpo revelations were what made me join the 1st forum. The famous members there were absolutely amazing, sadly most now passed.
    Yes. He wasn't a "returnee" — he was a reserve astronaut, one who was trained for the mission but who never actually went.

    Kerry and I actually went to his house, where we passed him a very polite note via his wife — who was waiting for us at the gate, even though we'd never told anyone at all that we were on our way to visit him.

    I still have his full name and address, but (as one might expect) I've never disclosed it publicly, and would not do so, as (a) he would be extremely elderly now even if he was still alive, and (b) absolutely no purpose would be served by breaking the respected confidentiality.

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    Wow, looking back, what an exciting life you are having this time around, so many discoveries, amazing adventures, meeting the most fascinating people etc.
    Yet folk are still looking for your ‘previous’ self in the Himalayas…
    Sorry, back to topic
    The love you withhold is the pain that you carry
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    It is so nauseating to hear the way these guys talk. The guy can't even get a word in without "F this" and "F that".. I wanted to hear what he had to say concerning Close encounters of the third kind being not too far from the truth.. I had heard a similar rumor, that Spielberg was fed this story from an insider and that it actually happened quite similar. The guy didn't get to finish what he was saying.. Sigh.

    Regarding the shaky cam, I never once saw any of the guys look directly at the camera, making me think they didn't realize they were being filmed. It seemed to me that he was constantly readjusting it because he didn't want anyone to notice he was filming. Perhaps he was holding it under a sweater to conceal it, I mean, who knows. The main guy sharing the information didn't seem to know he was being filmed due to the fact he never looks directly down at the device. He only maintains eye contact with those around him. It looks like the camera is flush to the table and possibly being covered. Generally people don't hold a camera flush to the table unless they're trying to look less obvious when filming.
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    Quote Posted by jaybee (here)
    soldiers on top secret missions are whipping out their phones, filming classified info and then letting it be distributed. Which doesn't happen, because no-one wants to spend 30 years in a military prison.
    Does anyone think that the guy giving the talk isn't aware of at least one phone pointing at him, even looking at it?
    If this was a classified meeting, then that wouldn't be happening....

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    Quote Posted by Lilyofthestars (here)
    I wanted to hear what he had to say concerning Close encounters of the third kind being not too far from the truth.. I had heard a similar rumor, that Spielberg was fed this story from an insider and that it actually happened quite similar. The guy didn't get to finish what he was saying.. Sigh.
    Here's the reference: (from Time Magazine, no less)
    Project Serpo details what apparently happened after the famous Roswell crash in 1947. Ever see Close Encounters of the Third Kind? Apparently that’s similar to what happened in the Serpo case, which details a story of an exchange program set up to send 12 of our people to the home planet of the aliens who crashed in the New Mexico desert.

    According to the account, “It is reported that after President Ronald Reagan watched a special screening of ‘Close Encounters of the Third Kind,’ he privately spoke to Steven Spielberg and said, ‘You don’t know how true this really is.’”

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    I have never heard about this Serpo exchange program or the whole story related to it. Wow!!! Excited to finally learn something new regarding our secret history with the various ET races. I'm only sorry that some pretty disturbing things have been uncovered. I use to want to believe that all ET races were loving and benevolent. Fairly naïve.
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