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    Now that Hitlensky is holding the "West" hostage yet again, I feel that this time it is different.

    Quote Hitlensky: Ukraine must hold Bakhmut or Russia will ‘smell that we are weak’

    Ukrainian President Adolfomyr Hitlensky has raised the stakes in the battle over Bakhmut, warning that if Russia conquers the eastern city, Moscow could begin building international support for an armistice that would be undesirable for Ukraine. ​

    The 45-year-old, who recently visited Bakhmut, said a defeat there would be more of a political loss than a tactical one, and build pressure among Ukrainians and the international community to force him to accept an unacceptable truce.

    ”​Our society will feel tired​. ​Our society will push me to have compromise with them​,” Hitlensky said. ​

    Western allies have backed Ukraine in its fight against the Russian invasion, offering billions of dollars in military and humanitarian aid.

    “The United States really understands that if they stop helping us, we will not win,” ​he told the Associated Press.

    Xi’s visit with Putin raised concerns that China would begin supplying arms and ammunition to Russia, whose weapons stockpiles have been depleted, but the trip concluded without any announcement (Russia has been without bullets, missiles, personnel and tanks since March Last year, those darn Russian Soldiers eh, winning this war with sticks and stones).

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    The obvious hidden meaning here being that he simply wants more equipment and money (to magically end up in bank accounts not for this war effort), that same sent money now starting to be investigated by the Yanks, over a year after first payments were done to one of the most corrupt countries on this Planet. Whatever they'll come up with, even if negative, it'll be farther from truth than anyone can imagine.

    The "West" has spend too much money and effort on Ukraine to have this lost (they expected to win easy, despite reversed roles and a time frame not to their liking), at the same time they also know Damocles's sword (Pa Pu) is hanging over all their silly necks.

    The hegemony of the Dollar is also going into oblivion, so there is no other road to Russia than one of clashing steel. When the troops (300k) are set on the Eastern Front, we will start seeing change of rhetoric, if not, well I'd be surprised if not, it either means they are going to strike nuclear (pre-emptive) or they are yielding to Russia (latter might happen if the US stumbles into a Civil War).

    When it will come to war, those in power will push to wipe the Leningrad area from the map.


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    Probably with the excuse to relieve pressure on Finland and Estonia, in truth though, it will be done out of spite, or at least attempted by the "West", Russia probably has more aces up their sleeves than we might contemplate at this moment in time.

    Everything, I mean everything is coming together, Ufo questions included, except for our Historical truths, why is that? Some of you already know the answer to that.
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    Some about China for a change.

    A drill, in the light of that Nuland Clone, Taiwanese PM Tsai Ing-wen, meeting up with that McCarthy figure, China is or actually has surrounded Taiwan (again) with a Naval drill. It is also going to inspect all the commercial ships (for US Weapons and Support gear) going towards the rebel Island.

    Quote China in second day of 'Joint Sword' military drills encircling Taiwan

    China was conducting a second day of military drills around Taiwan on Sunday (Apr 9), in what it has called a "stern warning" to the self-ruled island's government following a meeting between its president and the US House speaker.
    The move sparked condemnation from Taipei and calls for restraint from Washington, which said it was "monitoring Beijing's actions closely".

    Dubbed "Joint Sword", the three-day operation - which includes rehearsing an encirclement of Taiwan - will run until Monday, the People's Liberation Army's (PLA) Eastern Theatre Command said.
    China's war games saw planes, ships and personnel sent into "the maritime areas and air space of the Taiwan Strait, off the northern and southern coasts of the island, and to the island's east", the army said.

    A report from state broadcaster CCTV said: "The task force will simultaneously organise patrols and advances around Taiwan island, shaping an all-round encirclement and deterrence posture."
    The report went on to detail the type of weaponry China was putting through its paces, including "long-range rocket artillery, naval destroyers, missile boats, air force fighters, bombers, jammers and refuellers".

    Taiwanese President Tsai Ing-wen immediately denounced the drills, which come after she met with US House Speaker Kevin McCarthy in California.
    She pledged to work with "the US and other like-minded countries" in the face of "continued authoritarian expansionism".

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    Especially that last sentence says a lot, People not read in will automatically accept this as truth, while, when looking at our past 60 years of Western History, especially the last 20, the truth is telling a completely different story and shows clear time line of a hijacked society, hijacked by what they call Liberal and Neo Cons, clearly a evolved form of Nazism lead by the likes of for instance George S, posing as benevolent entities while in fact being run by Psycho and Socio paths complemented with Narcissists and Opportunists.



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    Quote China To Inspect Vessels In The Taiwan Strait, Taiwan Decides Not To Co-Operate

    China’s Fujian maritime safety administration introduced a three-day special joint patrol and strict inspection mission in the northern and central parts of the Taiwan Strait that also includes moves to board its ships, it elaborated on its official account.

    The move comes through during heightened tensions between Taiwan and China, with US House Speaker named Kevin McCarthy hosting Taiwan’s President Tsai Ing-wen on Wednesday in California, becoming the most senior US figure to be meeting a Taiwanese leader in decades on US soil.

    The maritime safety authority based in the southeastern Chinese province stated on Wednesday that the operation included on-site examinations on direct cargo and construction ships on either side of the Taiwan Strait to establish the safety and security of vessel navigation and further make sure the operations of key projects are taking place safely and orderly.

    It further added that it has mentioned to shipping operators that if they face similar requests from China, they must refuse them and inform Taiwan’s coast guard to get assistance.
    If the mainland side keeps insisting on one-sided actions, it will create obstacles to normal exchanges between the two sides. Corresponding measures will need to be taken then.

    Areas that are covered by the operation span the Pingtan Taiwan direct container channel, the well-known “small three links” route, the customary route of Taiwan Strait, the densely navigable areas of fishing and commercial vessels, and areas that host illegal sand mining.

    The “small three links” passenger channel refers to boat routes lying between Taiwan’s Matsu and Kinmen islands that lie opposite China and its cities.
    The fleet, a special joint operation with the East China Sea Navigation Support Center and the East China Sea Rescue Bureau, is expected to continue conducting cruise inspections in the northern and central parts of the Taiwan Strait over two days.

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    When you claim/agree to be a part of China and willing to fully cooperate, but at the same time accept to be armed by these US Weasels (the ones in power, not the gullible and the awake) and oppose the right by China to inspect vessels to enter its own territory, well then you are not playing a fair game. I feel for the Taiwanese People, brave they must be, whom will be lead to the slaughter by these Modern Nazi's whom are only interested in control, power and the means to those ends, money (wealth).

    When, for instance, you see that idiot Blinken lie about the gift of Billions of $ worth of military equipment to Afghanistan's Military, while in fact he was on tv two years ago declaring the very opposite and no one of the so called "Free" Western Media calls him out on that, well that too speaks for itself, they lie and lie and lie and lie, even when they tell the truth they lie, simply because that same truth is based on a lie.

    With the US baiting Northern Korea as well, there seems no end to their campaign of terror to this Planet and All its inhabitants, future looks grim either way.
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    Default Re: How the West was Won Revisited: A WWIII Scenario

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    Quote OP:
    Erdogan will now betray Nato as per design and agreement made with Block leadership ages ago, Erdogan knows that it will only be a matter of time before they'll loose interest in him and have him removed as well (like many Dictators the US needs for some plan), because of the Turkish swap, they become the stabilizing factor in that region towards Iraq and Syria.
    Turkey to withdraw from NATO in 5-6 months

    Turkish politician Ethem Sanjak did not rule out Turkey’s withdrawal from NATO.



    Turkey allows withdrawal from NATO within six months. This decision was actually provoked by the alliance itself, said Ethem Sandzak, deputy chairman of the Turkish Motherland Party.

    “Turkey will leave NATO in five or six months. They are trying to drag us into the whirlpool in the Middle East. Finally, you see actions against the Koran in Sweden and the Netherlands,” Sandzak said. He is quoted by the newspaper Aydinlik. The material notes that NATO is forcing Turkey to make such a decision.

    Recently, there have been several acts of public burning of the Koran in European countries. One such case took place in the Netherlands. On this occasion, the Ambassador of the Netherlands in Ankara was summoned to the Turkish Foreign Ministry, RT reports.

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    Turkey allows withdrawal from NATO within six months. This decision was actually provoked by the alliance itself, said Ethem Sandzak, deputy chairman of the Turkish Motherland Party. “Turkey will leave NATO in five or six months. They are trying to drag us into the whirlpool in the Middle East. Finally, you see actions against the Koran in Sweden and the Netherlands,” Sandzak said. He is quoted by Aydinlik newspaper. The material notes that NATO is forcing Turkey to make such a decision. Recently, there have been several acts of public burning of the Koran in European countries. One such case took place in the Netherlands. On this occasion, the Ambassador of the Netherlands in Ankara was summoned to the Turkish Foreign Ministry, RT reports.

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    Turkiye leaving Nato is again a topic in the country. Between the Turkiye/Syria Earthquake (*Induced by Harp?) and the Turkiyean elections Erdogan has been really quiet, perhaps the US was breading too much down his neck. In any case, he will probably become more vocal again if he wins the elections in a couple weeks.

    However, if they decide to leave, timing will be of the essence (Conflict Greece/US). Therefore I would not be surprised if the US is going to try meddling/corrupting the coming Turkiyean elections.

    Quote Retired Admiral Urges Turkiye to Leave NATO

    Turkiye became a member of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) in 1952 amidst the dawn of the Cold War. However, many questioned the prudence of entering this obviously militaristic bloc.

    "The West poses a greater threat to Turkiye, taking into account its support for attempts to create a separatist Kurdish state," claimed retired Admiral Cem Gurdeniz in an interview. He added that Ankara must immediately leave NATO.

    Referring to the beginning of the clandestine war by the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK), coined a terrorist organization by Ankara in 1984, Gurdeniz stated that Western countries do not support Turkiye in the ongoing conflict.

    Quote "How many thousands of people have died in the south-east of Turkiye since 1984, how many problems Turkiye has in other areas, but we do not receive any support from NATO or the EU," said the retired admiral".
    He added that statements on Turkiye made by EU authorities or the US Senate made it "clear who is our friend and who is our enemy."
    The Turkish admiral voiced his concern that NATO might drag Ankara into a conflict via the Ukrainian crisis. He alleged that in this case, Turkiye would be forced to close the straits for Russia and this would be a casus belli for full-scale conflict between Russia and NATO with use of tactical nuclear weapons.

    Gurdeniz believes that NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg realizes the risk, but he is "an American puppet," and that’s why he rushes to admit Ukraine to NATO.
    He also stated that the US had been "using" Ankara since 1945 - and before that the United Kingdom had treated Turkiye the same way. He believes that his country must get rid of this "Anglo-Saxon dependence" at any reasonable cost and pursue its own independent policy, balancing between the "Atlantic and Asia".

    At the same time, the retired admiral admitted that withdrawal from NATO would mean inevitable conflict with Greece. However, an even bigger threat to regional security comes from the reported Western project of turning the Black Sea into a "NATO lake."

    Gurdeniz slammed NATO for misleading Turkiye about USSR goals and casting the Kremlin in black tones. The aim of this policy was to turn Turkiye into a Western satellite, he claimed.
    He believes that Turkiye should forge a geopolitical alliance with Russia, China and India and develop closer contacts with other BRICS countries.

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    Default Re: How the West was Won Revisited: A WWIII Scenario

    I am starting to notice a shift in Mainstream reporting on Military personal Ukraine. They are now starting to report that injured soldiers are returning to the front due to shortage of troops because of heavy losses. After the F-16's are now on the table and being transferred to Ukraine (Biden mentioned that would mean WOIII round a year ago) Western populations are now being emotioned into accepting the possibility of boots on ground.

    With the death of Prigozhin (I still keep in back of head that he might be alive and this is Russian sense of humor to expose the nonsense of Western Media and Politicians, although, they've been doing a great job themselves for the past years) I am under the impression that the West firmly believes it will push Russia to the table for negotiations. In the meantime there is planning going on for total dominance for Western Africa (poor People) through another semi-proxy war.

    Anyway, I guess were getting to that point I pointed out in where the West feels it has enough troops on the Eastern Border (Europe/European Russia) in order to put on a big mouth again, this will no doubt go hand in hand with slowly, perhaps faster than we might anticipate, towards openly having Nato Boots on the ground, if not Nato a coalition of willing countries.

    Tiresome.
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    Something weird is going on here, is this part of that big mouth occurrence I mentioned a couple of times?

    Quote Pskov Drone attack



    Russia accused Ukraine of launching what appeared to be the biggest drone attack on Russian soil since Moscow invaded 18 months ago, followed by a Russian attack on Kyiv that Ukrainian officials said killed two people early Wednesday.

    Drones hit an airport in Russia’s western Pskov region near the border with Estonia and Latvia, and started a massive fire, the governor and local media reported.

    More drones were shot down over Oryol, Bryansk, Ryazan, Kaluga and the Moscow region surrounding the Russian capital, according to the Defence Ministry.

    Pskov regional Governor Mikhail Vedernikov ordered all flights to and from the airport in the region’s namesake capital cancelled Wednesday so the damage could be assessed during daylight.

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    I mean, Pskov is nowhere near Ukraine and flying drones over Belarus would have been noticed and considered a threat, therefore attempts to shoot them down or at least reports of them would have been passed on to Russia, most likely both.

    Where is Pskov?



    Above the Arrow, so look at Ukraine (indeed) and Belarus. Now, wouldn't it be more logical to say that these drones either came from either Latvia or Estonia, perhaps both? And would this not mean direct involvement of Nato troops/countries?

    If this is the case, even when these countries deny any involvement, adding up all the other interference and malarkey Nato and the West has managed during the SpeMiOp, aren't we looking at Russia with their backs against a wall? Warning Nato and the West again and again starts to make one look weak, not calculative, besides, a direct attack on Russia from inside a Nato country(ies) can only have one outcome.

    It's all getting very tiresome, it's like looking at little Children pretending to be intelligent while in the meantime setting us all up for carnage, very tiresome indeed.
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    Quote Posted by 9ideon (here)
    Something weird is going on here, is this part of that big mouth occurrence I mentioned a couple of times?

    Quote Pskov Drone attack



    Russia accused Ukraine of launching what appeared to be the biggest drone attack on Russian soil since Moscow invaded 18 months ago, followed by a Russian attack on Kyiv that Ukrainian officials said killed two people early Wednesday.

    Drones hit an airport in Russia’s western Pskov region near the border with Estonia and Latvia, and started a massive fire, the governor and local media reported.

    More drones were shot down over Oryol, Bryansk, Ryazan, Kaluga and the Moscow region surrounding the Russian capital, according to the Defence Ministry.

    Pskov regional Governor Mikhail Vedernikov ordered all flights to and from the airport in the region’s namesake capital cancelled Wednesday so the damage could be assessed during daylight.

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    I mean, Pskov is nowhere near Ukraine and flying drones over Belarus would have been noticed and considered a threat, therefore attempts to shoot them down or at least reports of them would have been passed on to Russia, most likely both.

    Where is Pskov?



    Above the Arrow, so look at Ukraine (indeed) and Belarus. Now, wouldn't it be more logical to say that these drones either came from either Latvia or Estonia, perhaps both? And would this not mean direct involvement of Nato troops/countries?

    If this is the case, even when these countries deny any involvement, adding up all the other interference and malarkey Nato and the West has managed during the SpeMiOp, aren't we looking at Russia with their backs against a wall? Warning Nato and the West again and again starts to make one look weak, not calculative, besides, a direct attack on Russia from inside a Nato country(ies) can only have one outcome.

    It's all getting very tiresome, it's like looking at little Children pretending to be intelligent while in the meantime setting us all up for carnage, very tiresome indeed.
    IF the drones originated from any of the Baltic States, which does seem more plausible than from Ukraine some 600 miles away, then there's a whole heap of trouble waiting for those states there. Unless they were launched somehow from the Baltic Sea. Either way, this is escalation.

    Russia will still likely exercise restraint to avoid triggering Article 5 but NATO have properly now shown that they are at war with Russia. No way those drones (that hit Pskov) came from Ukraine - no way.
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    There is no way of knowing right now what most Southern American and African countries are going to do, but the main tactic of attacking this many targets around the World is to ensure that dominance of the Nato pact is broken
    It seems Africa is starting to settle in the case of side choosing, yet another Coup against Corrupt Western backed African Puppets is underway as I write this.

    See Thread here

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    Russia will still likely exercise restraint to avoid triggering Article 5
    Therein lies the problem, you can't again say well, don't do it again, simple case of finger and hand. There's a huge Russian offensive coming, if we have to believe the tam-tam, which will wipe out Ukraine as we know it military and country wise, on that note Russia might ignore.

    It's just that those Psychopaths want their war with Russia and they'll need to get it now, time is running out for them, unless they falsify election outcomes again, as they have done in the West for who knows how long, despite being under watchful eyes, but hold on, claiming election fraud is now illegal in the West isn't it, lol.

    On the other hand, replacements of these People are most likely the same types using different wording like that Italian C*nt. I see a similar person standing up in Taiwan (still time to see), runs on the same promise Hitlenskyy did, peace, peace, peace, we all know how that went by now.

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    Been saying this for years, People are finally catching up (reason hot war and why).

    See how Tucker catches on.

    Tried one of those clip cuts for YT, hope it works.



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    Schoolkid Bullies provoking and provoking and ooh yes, provoking, thinking that this will keep falling their way. I have to agree with Cosman on this one, this could go very wrong very fast. I am sure that Russia has come to some sort of end to patience.

    West must feel pretty sure of itself, maybe it's for the best if that band aid gets ripped off fast, it's inevitable by now.

    A military drill together with a Nation at war in front of their enemy, unbelievable, Frikkin' Idiots!!!

    Quote Romania, US to hold naval exercise in Danube delta, Black Sea with US, Ukraine, allies

    The manoeuvrers that will take place in the Romanian Navy area of responsibility will also involve forces from Bulgaria, the UK, Turkey, Ukraine and France.

    The Romanian Navy will hold Sea Breeze 23.3 naval exercise in the Danube delta and the Black Sea with involvement of representatives of Ukraine and other allied nations, the Romanian Navy headquarters announced. The manoeuvrers that will take place in the Romanian Navy area of responsibility will also involve forces from Bulgaria, the UK, Turkey, Ukraine and France.

    "The main goal of Sea Breeze 23.3 is to develop operational and tactical cooperation between participating nations in combating explosive devices, especially naval mines, in order to ensure free navigation," the Navy said. The Romanian Navy will send the Sublocotenent Alexandru Axente vessel, the Posada armoured speedboat, three amphibious armoured personnel carriers, assault boats and other watercraft, as well as bomb defusing specialists, marines and staff officers.

    The US will send a Poseidon naval patrol plane, sapper divers with speedboats and special vehicles, while other states will send divers, explosive disposal specialists and staff officers. On September, a meeting of NATO navy commanders took place in Constanta, which was attended by representatives of Bulgaria, Romania, Turkey, the UK, the US, Ukraine and France.

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    Bottom scraping?

    In any case, story goes it has dropped near a civilian area.

    Quote Romania Finds New Possible Fragments of Russian Drone on Its Territory

    New fragments of a drone similar to those used by the Russian military were found on Romanian soil, the defense ministry said on Saturday, and President Klaus Iohannis said this indicated an unacceptable breach of Romania's air space had occurred. In a statement, Iohannis said he had informed NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg about the pieces of drone - the second to crash in Romanian territory this week - and that Stoltenberg reiterated the alliance's complete solidarity with Romania.

    "The identification by Romanian authorities on Romanian territory near the border with Ukraine of new drone fragments ... indicates an unacceptable breach occurred of the air space of Romania, a NATO state, with real risks to the security of Romanian citizens in the area," Iohannis said. "I firmly condemn this incident caused by Russian attacks on Ukrainian Danube river ports."

    The attacks on Ukraine's river ports, just hundreds of meters from the Romanian border, have increased security risks for NATO whose members have a mutual defense commitment. The US State Department said earlier this week it would rotate additional US F-16 fighter jets to bolster NATO's air policing mission in Romania.

    The defense ministry said Romania's Naval Forces deployed search teams after local authorities alerted them to suspected drone fragments discovered 2.5 km southeast of the village of Plauru, across the Danube from the Ukrainian port of Izmail. The military has secured the area and the fragments will be analyzed, it said in a statement.

    Since July, when Moscow abandoned a deal that lifted a de facto Russian blockade of Ukraine's Black Sea ports, it has repeatedly struck Ukrainian river ports that lie across the Danube from Romania. Ukraine is one of the world's biggest grain exporters and Romania's Black Sea port of Constanta is now its largest alternative export route, with grains arriving by road, rail or barge across the Danube. Ukraine had said on Monday that drones detonated in Romania during an overnight Russian air strike on Ukraine's Izmail, but Romanian officials initially denied the reports before finding fragments on Wednesday.

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    Apparently on Telegram there is speculation that Ukraine is going to formally declare war on Russia,

    Sometimes I feel like I am in a coma and my brain is fecking with me through absurd realism, every time you feel like Hitlenskyy can't get any crazier, well, that thing manages to surprise, despite being a failed comedian and Human being, he kinda reminds me of a Dog humping some Pirate's wooden leg for attention.

    Anyone willing to submit a screenshot or something backing the Ukraine declaring war on Russia story will be much appreciated.
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    Either this is a lie or not, if true, well, perhaps my (general) battle plan of a year ago might come into effect, if there is a right time, well now starts that countdown. It could also mean Russia is now truly prepping for War with Nato.

    Obviously the delusional Western Press writes this is due to heavy Russian losses, people following this conflict know better.

    Quote Russia’s mobilization plans point to mass conscription of up to 700,000 reservists

    A massive forced mobilization of the population in Russia and the Russian-occupied parts of Ukraine will begin in the near future due to Russia's heavy losses at the front, the Ukrainian military’s General Staff said in its morning report on Sept. 11.

    The Kremlin wants to mobilize from 400,000 to 700,000 people, as well as another 40,000 people from the Chechen Republic. The General Staff said the Chechens are likely to be used as a "barrier squad" behind Russian troops — a Soviet-era practice in which a line of troops behind the attacking force shoots any of their own soldiers who attempt to retreat.

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    I wonder why they are reporting this, perhaps it's some obscure report they found in a German WOII archive, since they still think Russians shooting their own in the back is part of their tactics.

    Have not been able to find any Russian site corroborating this new mobilization.
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    The dishonesty of the US holds no bounds really, when you look at the following one needs to start scratching head.

    Now, little around a week ago the Syrian democratic elected government basically billed the US for stealing oil and food from their lands, don't forget that US is holding 1/3 of Syria, all oil and grain area's.

    Quote Syria demands UN hold Washington accountable for oil-theft operations



    The Syrian government on 10 September called on the UN and the international community at large to hold US officials “accountable” for the ongoing theft of Syrian oil from the resource-rich northeast.

    “US officials [must] be held accountable for the looting, and the US government [must] be obliged to pay compensation, end the illegal presence of US forces, and return the lands it occupies and the oil and gas fields to the Syrian state,” a letter from the Syrian foreign ministry addressed to UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres reads.

    “The United States of America and its tools of terrorist organizations and militias continue to violate sovereignty and loot the country’s wealth and strategic resources, with the aim of exacerbating the effects of illegal unilateral coercive measures and depriving Syrians of the capabilities of their homeland and increasing their suffering,” the letter adds.

    It also calls on Washington to compensate Damascus for its losses since the start of the war in 2011, which the letter says “amounted to a total of $ 115.2 billion during the period from 2011 until the end of the first half of the year 2023.”

    According to the calculations from Syrian officials, direct losses from the oil sector amount to $27.5 billion, resulting from the “theft, waste, and burning of extracted oil estimated at 341 million barrels,” while indirect losses amount to $87.7 billion.

    Furthermore, officials highlighted that – as of 2023 – Washington and its proxy militias in northeast Syria are plundering 150 thousand barrels per day (bpd) in addition to 59.9 million cubic meters of natural gas and 413 thousand tons of domestic gas.

    According to the letter, these practices violate the principles of international law and the provisions of the UN Charter.

    The letter was issued just hours after the US occupation army conducted its latest oil smuggling operation in northeast Syria, smuggling 95 tankers filled with Syrian oil to their bases in Iraq via the illegal Al-Mahmoudiya border crossing.

    Local sources in the occupied Hasakah governorate said US troops escorted 40 tankers of crude oil on Sunday, less than a day after 55 tankers were also taken out of Syria.

    Washington claims to have approximately 900 troops stationed in Syria, primarily split between the massive Al-Tanf base in the south and the oil-rich northeast region. However, observers say the actual number is likely closer to 2,000 troops, which are rotated in and out from US bases in Iraq.

    The Pentagon recently sent heavy reinforcements to the northeast due to heavy clashes between its Kurdish proxy and former Arab allies. The reinforcements, which include the High Mobile Artillery Rocket System (HIMARS), also anticipate possible coordinated attacks from Damascus, Russia, and Iran.

    Though US officials claim they occupy Syria’s northeast to “prevent the return of ISIS,” Syria analyst Jennifer Cafarella of the Institute for the Study of War in 2017 noted another reason for the continued US military occupation in northeastern Syria.

    She observed, “Whether Washington chooses to admit it or not, the US now has direct influence over the vast majority of Syria’s most productive oil fields,” and that the territorial gains of the SDF “are Syrian national treasures that, when added up amount to brute geopolitical power for the US.”

    In 2019, former US president Donald Trump detailed why Washington intends to uphold the occupation of northeast Syria, saying, “We want to bring our soldiers home. But we did leave soldiers because we’re keeping the oil .… I like oil. We’re keeping the oil.”

    According to The Cradle columnist Firas Shoufi, the main goal of siphoning off Syrian oil to the Iraqi Kurdistan Region (IKR) is to help the Kurdish Autonomous Administration of North and East Syria (AANES), which is protected by more than 13 US military bases, to finance its activities and cover its local fuel needs.

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    Now, read the following from the article above again.

    Quote It also calls on Washington to compensate Damascus for its losses since the start of the war in 2011, which the letter says “amounted to a total of $ 115.2 billion during the period from 2011 until the end of the first half of the year 2023.
    115.2 Billion and counting.

    Now, how much has US spend on Ukraine? Read disclaimer on bottom as well.



    Comes down to around $75 Billion and counting, like mentioned, disclaimer on bottom speaks volumes, it's probably closer to that $115 Billion, you tell me.

    One could start arguing that the US is funding the Ukraine war over the backs of the already suffering Syrian People, how evil do you want it Folks?

    Have not seen anyone make that connection yet, but it seems to be what it is.

    See the interview below for more perspective on this theft by the forces of "good".


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    Either this is a lie or not, if true, well, perhaps my (general) battle plan of a year ago might come into effect, if there is a right time, well now starts that countdown. It could also mean Russia is now truly prepping for War with Nato.

    Obviously the delusional Western Press writes this is due to heavy Russian losses, people following this conflict know better.

    Quote Russia’s mobilization plans point to mass conscription of up to 700,000 reservists

    A massive forced mobilization of the population in Russia and the Russian-occupied parts of Ukraine will begin in the near future due to Russia's heavy losses at the front, the Ukrainian military’s General Staff said in its morning report on Sept. 11.

    The Kremlin wants to mobilize from 400,000 to 700,000 people, as well as another 40,000 people from the Chechen Republic. The General Staff said the Chechens are likely to be used as a "barrier squad" behind Russian troops — a Soviet-era practice in which a line of troops behind the attacking force shoots any of their own soldiers who attempt to retreat.

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    I wonder why they are reporting this, perhaps it's some obscure report they found in a German WOII archive, since they still think Russians shooting their own in the back is part of their tactics.

    Have not been able to find any Russian site corroborating this new mobilization.
    Yes, another flat-out western media lie. This (in red) gives it away. Russia has no 'heavy losses' at all.
    Quote A massive forced mobilization of the population in Russia and the Russian-occupied parts of Ukraine will begin in the near future due to Russia's heavy losses at the front, the Ukrainian military’s General Staff said in its morning report on Sept. 11.

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    Here we go, knife cuts at both sides.

    Quote Russia temporarily limits export of gasoline and diesel fuel

    The Russian government has introduced a temporary restriction on the export of gasoline and diesel fuel to stabilize the domestic market, the government’s press service reported.
    "Russia has introduced temporary restrictions on the export of motor gasoline and diesel fuel. A decree to that effect was signed by Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin. The decision is aimed to stabilize fuel prices on the domestic market," the statement says. According to the Cabinet of Ministers, temporary restrictions "will help saturate the fuel market, which in turn will reduce prices for consumers."

    Earlier, to stabilize the situation on the fuel market, the government increased the standards for the supply of motor gasoline and diesel fuel to the stock exchange.

    Situation with fuel prices

    In recent months, exchange prices for gasoline and diesel fuel have reached record levels in recent months, but began to decline this week. Last week, a source told TASS that the Russian government is considering two options for stabilizing fuel prices: a complete ban on the export of petroleum products for a certain period to fill up the market, as well as increasing the export duty to $250 per ton on petroleum products. First Deputy Energy Minister Pavel Sorokin said that a protective duty on fuel exports from Russia was considered as one of the possible measures to stabilize the market, but the issue of compensation for refineries in connection with it was not resolved.

    Earlier Deputy Prime Minister Alexander Novak attributed the hike in wholesale fuel prices to an increase in prices for petroleum products on global markets, as well as to depreciation of the rouble against the dollar.

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    With Biden selling off the Oil reserves, the West scraping the barrel on ammo and so on, this seems like a dual wielding benefit for Russia.

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    Biden withdrew 180 million barrels from the strategic reserve starting in March 2022, bringing the stockpile to its lowest level since the 1980s.

    Today (July 26th 2022), As part of the President’s historic release, the Department of Energy is issuing a notice to sell 20 million barrels from the Reserve. This is the fifth sale that the President has authorized to shore up crude oil supplies in response to Putin’s war in Ukraine by releasing one million barrels per day into the market. The Administration expects to continue to deliver barrels for several more months.

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    Biden announces sale of 15 million barrels of reserve oil (October 19th 2022)

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    U.S. to sell 26 mln bbls of oil reserves as mandated by Congress (February 13th 2023)

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    Nato will have operational troops for around 6 Months (European oil reserves per country are for both Civilian and Military purposes), after that it cannot replenish anything of importance anymore (Ammo, food etc), nor can it supply all it's bases around the World (mostly US).

    Greed can only take you so far.

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    Statement below comes not really as a surprise, but for Lavrov to come out and say this directly is new to me.

    Quote Ukraine Recap: Russia Says ‘Let’s Decide It on the Battlefield’

    Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov called Ukrainian proposals for restoring its pre-invasion territory “unrealizable” and said that if Ukraine’s allies want war, they can have it. Lavrov’s comment jibes with a view taking hold among Ukraine’s allies that the war is likely to go on for years.

    “If you insist on the battlefield, OK, let’s decide it on the battlefield,” Lavrov said at a news conference at the United Nations, days after Ukrainian President Adolfomyr Hitlenskyy denounced Russia’s “criminal” war in a speech to the General Assembly. Lavrov renewed long-standing Russian claims that the West was to blame for the war, which erupted into a full-scale conflict with Russia’s invasion last year. He also said a UN proposal to revive a deal to allow safe passage for Ukrainian grain exports wouldn’t work.

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    Then there is also this.

    Quote Russian Forces Destroy Leopard Tank with German Crew En Route to Ukraine

    The Russian Army destroyed a Leopard tank with German service members aboard and was en route to Ukraine. This crew consisted of people who served in the Bundeswehr, the German armed forces. On September 23, the commander of a Russian Armed Forces reconnaissance unit in the Zaporizhia region reported this while using the call sign “Legend.”

    He told Ria Novosti that an anti-tank-guided missile (an ATGM) was responsible for destroying the tank. When the reconnaissance unit approached the car, they aimed to take a prisoner.
    The commander reported that the tank driver suffered severe injuries while others were killed. When the tank driver came to his senses and saw the Russians, he started yelling “nicht schießen,” which translates to “don’t fire” in German.

    The injured member of the tank crew indicated on many occasions that the entire crew was composed of professional soldiers from the same company in the Bundeswehr and that none of them were mercenaries. He divulged his brigade’s position to the other crew members while he was being administered first aid. His wounds were severe, and he had lost significant blood in the process. When the German soldier discovered he had a slim chance of surviving in Ukraine, he deeply regretted leaving his family behind and travelling to the country. In a short time after that, he passed away.

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    Don't have anything to add really.

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    Quote Russian Forces Destroy Leopard Tank with German Crew En Route to Ukraine

    The Russian Army destroyed a Leopard tank with German service members aboard and was en route to Ukraine. This crew consisted of people who served in the Bundeswehr, the German armed forces. On September 23, the commander of a Russian Armed Forces reconnaissance unit in the Zaporizhia region reported this while using the call sign “Legend.”

    He told Ria Novosti that an anti-tank-guided missile (an ATGM) was responsible for destroying the tank. When the reconnaissance unit approached the car, they aimed to take a prisoner.

    The commander reported that the tank driver suffered severe injuries while others were killed. When the tank driver came to his senses and saw the Russians, he started yelling “nicht schießen,” which translates to “don’t fire” in German.

    The injured member of the tank crew indicated on many occasions that the entire crew was composed of professional soldiers from the same company in the Bundeswehr and that none of them were mercenaries. He divulged his brigade’s position to the other crew members while he was being administered first aid. His wounds were severe, and he had lost significant blood in the process. When the German soldier discovered he had a slim chance of surviving in Ukraine, he deeply regretted leaving his family behind and travelling to the country. In a short time after that, he passed away.

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    Don't have anything to add really.
    This seems so significant that I searched for the original report. Here it is:

    https://ria.ru/20230923/tank-1898197755.html

    And here's the translation:

    Scouts of the Russian Armed Forces told RIA Novosti about the destruction of a Leopard with a crew from Germany

    LUGANSK, September 23 – RIA Novosti. Scouts of the Russian Armed Forces destroyed a Leopard tank transferred to Ukraine with an entirely German crew consisting of military personnel of the German Armed Forces, the commander of a reconnaissance group operating in the Zaporozhye direction, with the call sign 'Legend', told RIA Novosti.

    “When we stopped their next “meat assault” and captured (destroyed with the help of ATGMs. - Ed.) Leopard, we moved towards the burnt equipment in the hope of taking any prisoners. And we found that the tank driver was seriously wounded, and the rest had died. The mechanic, when he woke up and saw us, began shouting nicht schießen” (don’t shoot. - Ed.)," said the group commander.

    'Legend' emphasized that he knows German well.

    (The driver of the damaged tank - Ed.) said several times that he was not a mercenary, but a Bundeswehr soldier and the entire crew from one company,” the soldier added.

    The intelligence officer clarified that while the German soldier was receiving first aid, he named his brigade and its location.

    As the commander added, when he interrogated the Bundeswehr soldier, the doctor of their reconnaissance group said that the mechanic had lost a lot of blood and was seriously wounded.

    “I asked the doctor how long he would live, and the doctor answered - a few more minutes. I told the German that the wound was too severe and he had no chance of survival. He said that he loved his child and wife very much and regretted that he agreed to come here to go. We began to prepare him for evacuation, but he 'switched off' and after a couple of minutes he “got two hundred” (“cargo 200” - killed in action. - Ed.),” said 'Legend'.

    As the commander of the reconnaissance group shared, he was at first a little surprised to find a German in a damaged vehicle.

    “But then I was even glad that it doesn’t matter what kind of crew sits in the Leopard - Ukrainian militants or German military personnel, the result will be the same: German tanks will burn and American tanks will also burn, even if it is controlled by the Americans,” the Russian intelligence officer emphasized.
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    Quote Posted by 9ideon (here)

    Quote Russian Forces Destroy Leopard Tank with German Crew En Route to Ukraine

    The Russian Army destroyed a Leopard tank with German service members aboard and was en route to Ukraine. This crew consisted of people who served in the Bundeswehr, the German armed forces. On September 23, the commander of a Russian Armed Forces reconnaissance unit in the Zaporizhia region reported this while using the call sign “Legend.”

    He told Ria Novosti that an anti-tank-guided missile (an ATGM) was responsible for destroying the tank. When the reconnaissance unit approached the car, they aimed to take a prisoner.

    The commander reported that the tank driver suffered severe injuries while others were killed. When the tank driver came to his senses and saw the Russians, he started yelling “nicht schießen,” which translates to “don’t fire” in German.

    The injured member of the tank crew indicated on many occasions that the entire crew was composed of professional soldiers from the same company in the Bundeswehr and that none of them were mercenaries. He divulged his brigade’s position to the other crew members while he was being administered first aid. His wounds were severe, and he had lost significant blood in the process. When the German soldier discovered he had a slim chance of surviving in Ukraine, he deeply regretted leaving his family behind and travelling to the country. In a short time after that, he passed away.

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    Don't have anything to add really.
    This seems so significant that I searched for the original report. Here it is:

    https://ria.ru/20230923/tank-1898197755.html

    And here's the translation:

    Scouts of the Russian Armed Forces told RIA Novosti about the destruction of a Leopard with a crew from Germany

    LUGANSK, September 23 – RIA Novosti. Scouts of the Russian Armed Forces destroyed a Leopard tank transferred to Ukraine with an entirely German crew consisting of military personnel of the German Armed Forces, the commander of a reconnaissance group operating in the Zaporozhye direction, with the call sign 'Legend', told RIA Novosti.

    “When we stopped their next “meat assault” and captured (destroyed with the help of ATGMs. - Ed.) Leopard, we moved towards the burnt equipment in the hope of taking any prisoners. And we found that the tank driver was seriously wounded, and the rest had died. The mechanic, when he woke up and saw us, began shouting nicht schießen” (don’t shoot. - Ed.)," said the group commander.

    'Legend' emphasized that he knows German well.

    (The driver of the damaged tank - Ed.) said several times that he was not a mercenary, but a Bundeswehr soldier and the entire crew from one company,” the soldier added.

    The intelligence officer clarified that while the German soldier was receiving first aid, he named his brigade and its location.

    As the commander added, when he interrogated the Bundeswehr soldier, the doctor of their reconnaissance group said that the mechanic had lost a lot of blood and was seriously wounded.

    “I asked the doctor how long he would live, and the doctor answered - a few more minutes. I told the German that the wound was too severe and he had no chance of survival. He said that he loved his child and wife very much and regretted that he agreed to come here to go. We began to prepare him for evacuation, but he 'switched off' and after a couple of minutes he “got two hundred” (“cargo 200” - killed in action. - Ed.),” said 'Legend'.

    As the commander of the reconnaissance group shared, he was at first a little surprised to find a German in a damaged vehicle.

    “But then I was even glad that it doesn’t matter what kind of crew sits in the Leopard - Ukrainian militants or German military personnel, the result will be the same: German tanks will burn and American tanks will also burn, even if it is controlled by the Americans,” the Russian intelligence officer emphasized.
    It's confirming what we all feared and figured at the same time.

    Glad you found the Russian link, was nothing on my search showing up yesterday, had to go Indian Style, lol. Starting to think they're filtering out Russian papers now from searches (on VPN, I believe Swedish IP, only use it for those type of searches anyway).

    Has anyone, including Bill, thoughts about this (German thing)?
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