Theosophy

[onawah]

Women & the Theosophical Movement: Pioneers, Visionaries, Leaders
Susanne Hoepfl-Wellenhofer
Premieres Mar 10, 2022
Theosophical Society
117K subscribers

"As anyone familiar with theosophy knows, the movement’s early leaders included two prominent women: Helena Blavatsky and Annie Besant. Female leadership was highly unusual in spiritual and religious organizations at that time, so naturally the organization attracted other powerful women who also contributed to the spreading of Theosophical ideas. Join us to find out more about three such women—Constanze Wachtmeister, a contemporary of Helen Blavatsky, Wanda Dynowska, a contemporary of Annie Besant, and Dora Kunz, co-creator of Therapeutic Touch and former president of the society— and how their contributions can inspire our work in the 21st century.

Watch more videos on Theosophy here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...

Susanne Hoepfl-Wellenhofer was born in Austria and has been living and working in the U.S. since 1986. Even before finding Theosophy in 2010, she had been following her own spiritual path, comparing religion, science, philosophy, and psychology for over 20 years. She is currently the president of the Washington, D.C. Lodge and recently created a course for the Online School of Theosophy. She has a law degree from the University of Graz and a master’s degree in educational technology from George Washington University, where she worked for 20 years before retiring in 2019. She continues to translate German to English, including texts from Theosophist Dr. Franz Hartmann, and she is also a yoga instructor. Learn more at spiritualityconsciousnessandme.com.

This program was made possible thanks to the generous support of Sydney MacInnis. To learn about sponsoring a program, contact us at giving@theosophical.org."

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=pUmXD7-wD30

[DNA]

Just a side note for folks,
I was listening to a recent Cliff High video last night where he was making a connection between the theosophist movement Blavatsky started and the Khazarian mafia. I won't pretend to know what that means but ironically enough the day before I was listening to William Cooper of "behold a pale horse" fame and strangely enough he was saying the same thing.
Again I don't really know what to make of that.
But, I'll mention it for someone else to expand upon or clarify if the urge should present itself.

[Mike]

Posted by DNA (here)
Just a side note for folks,
I was listening to a recent Cliff High video last night where he was making a connection between the theosophist movement Blavatsky started and the Khazarian mafia. I won't pretend to know what that means but ironically enough the day before I eat listening to an William Cooper "behold a pale horse", and strangely enough he was saying the same thing.
Again I don't really know what to make of that.
But, I'll mention it for someone else to expand upon or clarify if the urge should present itself.

Wouldn't surprise me!

I've heard of the Theosophical Society being linked to all kinds of people and things.

I really hope Rachel jumps in here. She knows a ton about this stuff. Her knowledge is really impressive.

[shaberon]

Posted by DNA (here)
Just a side note for folks,
I was listening to a recent Cliff High video last night where he was making a connection between the theosophist movement Blavatsky started and the Khazarian mafia. I won't pretend to know what that means but ironically enough the day before I eat listening to an William Cooper "behold a pale horse", and strangely enough he was saying the same thing.
Again I don't really know what to make of that.
But, I'll mention it for someone else to expand upon or clarify if the urge should present itself.

Yes, I will.

The Theosophical Society was co-founded by H. P. Blavatsky and H. S. Olcott, the first western converts to Buddhism. The eastern adepts responsible for them searched Europe for nearly a century before accepting HPB.

Two things. First of all, the rest, or the future, of the Theosophical Society has nothing to do with this. Ms. Besant was not a disciple of the same masters, she was in the hands of what HPB called "Indian Jesuits". So as to who participated and what happened, later, is not even the same subject. Original Theosophy remains in the United Lodge of Theosophy, which has no leadership, no kind of powers, won't do anything besides send you a card to say you are "associated".

Secondly, what is a "Khazarian mafia" if not a lot of wishful thinking?

No doubt, subsequent "Theosophists" might be all kinds of dukes, princes, and magisters of "Khazaria". Who knows?

The kind of thing those people are probably reaching for something like this. HPB is in part Rurikid or related to the Roerich line of the Russian Tsars. On the other side, she is Dolgoruki, another noble house, but far more mystical. It was her Dolgoruki grandfather's library that inspired her mysticism. It is also correct that as a child, "I want to be a Lady Liberty!" referring to the French character. She strongly disliked the upper class. She loved poor people. Most nobles circle the globe at their own expense, great risk, and tremendous peril right? Hah. In this library was said to have been a map from Comte de St. Germain which showed the re-organization of Europe after the Revolution. Did he know something about it, yes, a whole lot, have something to do with it, yes, as well as what happened in Russia and Schleswig-Holstein.


The later followers don't have half of her cojones. She fought and was almost killed in the Battle of Metana and said that Garibaldi was the only one who knew what was going on. It was, in fact, to restore the Bourbon monarch Victor Emmanuel! What, all these socialist revolutionaries supported a king?? That is what happened. Put that together with why Garibaldi told Abraham Lincoln to bite it, and, we are up to about half a clue.

Ms. Besant was just a good speaker (possibly even the first woman to be recognized as such in England), and, it is more or less correct that the early English socialist movement--which she left--became the breeding grounds for the Fabian Society. Then to understand England, you would have to track the Fabians and the Fascists. You get a situation of British Israelism, i. e. a swath of people starting to think it is important how British peoples are actually the "Lost Tribes of Israel", but, then, if you get ancy about "Jew scare" or "Khazarians"--chances are you will gladly reach out for the Fascist honeypot.

The actual successors of HPB and H. S. Olcott were Indian teenage children of Nobin Bannerjee.

To understand this, one must understand that from the Indian viewpoint, there is no Jewish and Christian embroilment. This kind of paranoia is not possible where no one cares, but, in slightly altered guises, it still describes the "subconscious tension" of the west.

There are a million illusions about Theosophy, sort of like Masonry. And so if we look at these, we must admit a minority, 15% or so, are legitimate followers of the original doctrines that have nothing to do with politics. The rest--who must be considered as using something like "borrowed names"--are a mixed bag that must also have about 15% extremists who *are* interested in politics and money and so forth.

And so if we bring up specific names and actual events and so forth, this can all be clarified to a large extent. But to use them as "blanket terms" is extremely devious and dangerous. It is like saying Putin spent a summer at a WEF camp. That does not make him a Klaus Schwab automaton. Adam Weishaupt went to a Jesuit school. That does not make him a Jesuit.

There certainly are examples like Propaganda Due if you are familiar with Italy, of corrupt Masonic lodges. HPB was a Mason to the extent she was handed an honorary certificate by John Yarker, he basically bowed down and said you are the mason of masons because you are so wise and powerful, and she was like "Thanks" and put it in her pocket.

If instead of "Khazarian" we just say "Zionist", then, yes, that is a tangible thing having a birthday around 1688.

If there is something more specific than "associations and connections", that would be great. Then we can tell if someone is on to something or not. In most cases we already know the common mistakes in, what I would call, a propaganda soup about all this.

[onawah]

It's good to have some background info...thanks to Shaberon.
All I am really familiar with is "the minority, 15% or so, (who) are legitimate followers of the original doctrines that have nothing to do with politics."

Posted by shaberon (here)

And so if we look at these, we must admit a minority, 15% or so, are legitimate followers of the original doctrines that have nothing to do with politics.

I would categorize Gigi Young as one of the latter, and there is a thread featuring her work on Avalon at:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...ght=gigi+young
She and Dark Journalist Daniel Liszt often refer to Blavatsky and the small group of women in that tradition who more or less followed in her footsteps as psychics, and as pioneers in spiritual research.
I don't always agree with their conclusions, but I think they have made worthwhile contributions.
Also to Theosophy's credit, Rufolf Steiner the founder of Anthroposophy, began as a Theosophist.
He was a gifted psychic and made other worthwihile contributions, such as in early education (Steiner schools) and organic gardening (French Intensive).
A brief outline of Edgar Cayce's involvement with Theosophy here:https://theosophy.wiki/en/Edgar_Cayce

"Involvement with Theosophical Society
Edgar Cayce was a member of the American Theosophical Society for about two years. He was admitted to membership in the Birmingham, Alabama Lodge on December 6, 1922, sponsored by Mrs. Gladys Dillman and Mrs. Lucy Coonley.[15]

In chapter 15 of the book There is a River, the author Thomas Sugrue recounts Cayce’s metaphysical explorations with an Ohio printer and avid seeker in Theosophy, ancient religions, and the occult named Arthur Lammers. His cooperation with Lammers starting in the fall of 1923 in Alabama marked a turn in Cayce’s career from medical clairvoyant to esoteric philosopher. Lammers, who was familiar with Theosophical Society founder Madame Blavatsky's work wanted Cayce to delve into questions about life after death, astrology, the existence of a soul and the purpose of our lives. In one of his readings for Lammers, he provided Lammers with a whole philosophy of life, dealing with karmic rebirth:

"In this we see the plan of development of those individuals set upon this plane, meaning the ability to enter again into the presence of the Creator and become a full part of the creation.
Insofar as this entity is concerned, this is the third appearance on this plane, and before this one, as the monk. We see glimpses in the life of the entity now as were shown in the monk., in his mode of living. The body is only the vehicle ever of that spirit and soul that waft through all times and ever remain the same."[16]

Theosophists and spiritualists were always fascinated by Cayce, and the Theosophical Press and Theosophical Publishing House distributed many books about his prophecies. The Union Index of Theosophical Periodicals lists 21 articles about Cayce, and the psychic was mentioned in numerous other articles. Joseph Millard's book Mystery Man of Miracles was very influential to Dr. Shafica Karagulla, who worked with Theosophical Society in America president Dora van Gelder Kunz, as they studied clairvoyant healing.[17]

Horowitz biography of Cayce
Over the years, numerous lodge programs of the Theosophical Society in America have centered on books about Cayce's life and teachings. His son, Hugh Lynn Cayce, represented the A.R.E. in lectures at Theosophical Society lodges. For example, he spoke at the Washington, D.C. Lodge in June, 1951; Herakles Lodge in Chicago in 1956; Washington again in 1957; St. Louis in 1958; Orlando in 1964; Ft. Wayne in 1970.[18] Another son, Charles Thomas Cayce, gave a seminar, "Unlocking the Mysteries in Your Dreams," in Minneapolis in 1983.[19] The Miami, Florida Lodge offered a set of three lectures and four classes under the supervision of A.R.E. members in 1953.[20]

The TSA also shared lecturers with Cayce's organization. The A.R.E. invited Dora van Gelder Kunz to conduct a workshop in Virginia Beach on July 16-29, 1986.[21] Several Theosophists wrote important books about Edgar Cayce, including Gina Cerminara, Mitch Horowitz, and K. Paul Johnson. The pocket book "Mind as a Builder" by Mitch Horowitz is the text to a lecture by the author exploring the principle of “Mind as Builder,” a core theme from the Edgar Cayce readings and can be found online."

[shaberon]

Posted by onawah (here)
All I am really familiar with is "the minority, 15% or so, (who) are legitimate followers of the original doctrines that have nothing to do with politics."

...the small group of women in that tradition who more or less followed in her footsteps as psychics, and as pioneers in spiritual research.

Very good!

Here are the ones who were closer. In the last two years of her life, HPB, for no apparent reason, entrusted all of her affairs to G. R. S. Mead. If anyone reads or follows what we call "Gnosticism", it is Mead. There was not really such a thing before him, and he kind of launched a wildfire. Also, he was involved in the *real* Palladian Rite, which had nothing to do with Albert Pike. So he was physically, personally close to her, but, in terms of following what she was doing, not really.

The horse's mouth itself is Alice Cleather HPB As I Knew Her. Alice hiked all over the Asian hells for years to get to the Panchen Lama who verified to her that his predecessor knew HPB well. Together they reprinted Voice of the Silence, removing Ms. Besant's edits. If you want the truth as to why HPB and her original Theosophy have no legacy, read this.

Madame Alexandra David-Neel and W. Y. Evans-Wentz were also similar, although they did not know her. Mostly what we get from them is not more theosophical books, instead it is Buddhism. And then B. P. Wadia had a lot to do with what came to be understood as United Lodge Theosophy. They do not have the printing rights, which are held by the Theosophical Society, and in recent years there actually have been recants of more of Ms. Besant's edits that were protected for a century.


When we look at those final years of HPB's life, she had assembled an inner circle based on the principle that Theosophy is the Groundwork for Raja Yoga, which is shown in a small set of Esoteric Instructions. Comparatively, in the theosophical lore, it was customary for Morya to project and observe people, except for HPB, who could talk to him any time. Well, he went to a house where many of these so-called disciples were slouching around, and, let's say, he was basically disgusted. Only three or four of them such as Ms. Cleather appeared to be remotely fit for what was supposed to happen. And it basically fell apart and that was the end of it.

[Bill Ryan]

A fun fact (or maybe, an unproveable assertion). I'm not claiming this is true, but I'm certain of it myself.

One of my closest friends, an extraordinarily able and gifted spiritual teacher whom I've known for 34 years, told me privately that she had been Helena Blavatsky in one of her earlier incarnations. She said simply: "I made a lot of mistakes that lifetime."

[norman]

'The tree of knowledge of good and evil' comes prominently to mind when I consider all I've learned about theosophy from Daniel Liszt's X series.

My gut feeling is that it's NOT good stuff.

I was completely ignorant of it's existence before Daniel Liszt brought it to my attention. That's true of many things I didn't know about before my current 'era' of sniffing around the internet catching chatter of people who've had their heads in books and academia and all manner of cerebral quests to enlightenment. I'm really kinda glad I was a late starter,

[shaberon]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
"I made a lot of mistakes that lifetime."

What is true in this case is that for most of these examples, we can compare *both* sides of the issue, i. e. persons such as the Coulombs and A. O. Hume and so forth, and compare these with reactions and responses from the theosophical-friendly side.


There were also things that could be called "successes", like the re-unification of what was then Ceylon, which, of course for the most part, no one would care about that. The ongoing human, anthropological story as it continues to unfold through more people, is almost all "mistakes".

[shaberon]

Posted by norman (here)
'The tree of knowledge of good and evil' comes prominently to mind when I consider all I've learned about theosophy from Daniel Liszt's X series.

My gut feeling is that it's NOT good stuff.

To form a nucleus of Universal Brotherhood with a very racist society during the process of it committing the Rape of India?


Do these orders from 1881 not still seem peculiarly current?



The world in general and Christendom especially, left for two thousand years to the regime of a personal God as well as its political and social systems based on that idea, has now proved a failure.


Should we devote our selves to teaching a few Europeans fed on the fat of the land, many of them loaded with the gifts of blind fortune, the rationale of bell-ringing, cup-growing, of the spiritual telephone [and astral body formation], and leave
the teeming millions of the ignorant, of the poor and despised, the lowly and the oppressed, to take care of themselves and of their hereafter the best they know how. Never. Perish rather the Theosophical Society with both its hapless founders than that we should permit it to become no better than an academy of magic and a hall of occultism. That we the devoted followers of that spirit incarnate of absolute self sacrifice, of philanthropy, divine kindness, as of all the highest virtues attainable on this earth of sorrow, the man of men, Gautama Buddha, should ever allow the Theosophical Society to represent the embodiment of selfishness, the refuge of the few with no thought in them for the many, is a strange idea, my brothers.


To be true, religion and philosophy must offer the solution of every problem. That the world is in such a bad condition morally is a conclusive evidence that none of its religions and philosophies, those of the civilised races less than any other, have ever possessed the truth.



Does the Liszt version sound like that?

How many millions of human beings are forced to beg for friendship from someone who is trying to kill them? Right now??

[norman]

Posted by shaberon (here)

Posted by norman (here)
'The tree of knowledge of good and evil' comes prominently to mind when I consider all I've learned about theosophy from Daniel Liszt's X series.

My gut feeling is that it's NOT good stuff.

. . . Does the Liszt version sound like that?

Not really, no.

Daniel Liszt paints a picture more like it's an eruption of 'intuitive' dabblers tapping into an ageless knowable body of worldly truth.

His own fascination with the subject isn't exactly clear to me, but my observer's take on it, so far, is that i's a kind of 'Luciferianism Lite' . . . and who knows, considering how little any of us really know yet, I may have to drop that word 'Lite' later.

[onawah]

If Edgar Cayce's work can be considered as an example of what Theosophy taught, consider this outline of that work on the wikipedia site at: https://theosophy.wiki/en/Edgar_Cayce

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"Pioneering work
Cayce was a significant pioneer in many disciplines that have gained widespread acceptance since his death:

The value of dreams as a tool for self-understanding and guidance. He saw dreams as a safe and reliable work to explore one’s own soul.
The importance of meditation as a spiritual discipline. He evolved an approach that was easy to apply to the Judeo-Christian world.
A perspective on reincarnation, karma, and grace that is potentially acceptable to the Judeo-Christian world. He presents reincarnation as an inescapable reality of how the universe operates. Karma can be softened by the influences of grace available to all souls.
An approach to astrology that recognizes past lives and the influence of the planets, especially with regard to helping people find a sense of purpose in life. He used the influence of the planets as a way of describing innate temperament and its impact upon the personality and aptitude.
[22]
According to Cayce’s reading we live in an orderly universe that is governed by universal laws. Humanity has a purposeful place in this universe, and there is a plan for us as souls: to bring the qualities of spiritual life into the material world consciously. That plan requires that we make proper use of two great gifts that God has given each of us: a creative mind and a free will. [23]

Edgar Cayce emphasized in his readings the importance of staying healthy with careful, consistent application of certain fundamental principles, among them the need for balance, and an awareness of the creative power of our attitudes and emotions in shaping the condition of our physical body. Healthy living also means having positive, supportive, and loving relationships with other people. [24]He also pointed out, that we need to understand that the various systems of the physical body – the nervous system, the circulatory system, the endocrine system, and the internal organs – are interconnected profoundly. A disorder in one system can cause problemss in another; achieving balance and harmony in one system can benefit the others. We also have to remember that each of us is made up of a body, a mind, and a spirit that are interconnected. For healing to be total and lasting, we need to work on integrating all three aspects of ourselves. [25]

In his readings Edgar Cayce pointed out that a succession of lifetimes makes it possible for the soul to move towards oneness with God while taking responsibility for its choices. Karma is more than debts to be paid; it is a matter of soul memory, even memory stored in the unconscious mind. We tend to repeat old patterns until our free will consciously decides to create new patterns of thinking, feeling and acting. It is not important to remember details of past lives but to focus on the challenges and opportunities in our current lifetime, employing reincarnation as a tool for understanding how and why everything happens for a reason. In addition, for each lifetime the soul comes into the material world it has a mission that includes work to help transform itself for the better as well as work that transforms the world for the better. Finding and using the soul’s talents through self-study is the key. [26]

Cayce’s approach to the soul and spirit demands that we take responsibility for our own lives. Often, the circumstances in which we find ourselves are of our own making, sometimes stretching to previous lives. Similar to Theosophy, Cayce’s premise was that there are two sides to ourselves: The personality (familiar identity) and the individuality (the authentic self). Healthy living requires that we learn to forge a deeper connection to our individuality, and the process begins by paying attention to our purposes, intentions, and ideals. Two disciplines support this work: meditation (listening to the divine within) and self-analysis through dream interpretations. [27] Soul development involves maturing into a certain way of being in life: present, patient, helpful, loving. It is learning how to put aside one’s personality and willfulness and instead waken to one’s individuality and willingness to serve God. [28]

In his readings Cayce also points to a new way of understanding Christ. He distinguishes between Jesus, the most recent incarnation of a soul who had many lifetimes on earth, and the universal Christ Consciousness, the awareness of the oneness of all life. Christ Consciousness resides in the unconscious mind of each soul, waiting to be awakened by free will. [29]

The Essence of the Cayce Philosophy
1) Everything is connected – all is one: Once we perceive this unity it is our challenge to apply this understanding as practical mystics.

2) Life is purposeful: Each of us is born with a personal mission, a “soul-purpose”. There is an aspect of service to soul-purpose.

3) Approach life as an adventure: Life is meant to be a playful search for the truth; it is research in the broadest sense of the word.

4) Be noncompetitive: show compassion: Nothing takes us away quicker from the sense of oneness, and therefore from our own soul-purpose, than the drive for competitiveness. Compassion is the capacity to be present for another person and experience how we are all really the same. It is a matter of feeling with another person, not taking responsibility for that person but being responsible and responsive to that person.

5) Take responsibility for yourself: Help is available but no one else can fix things for us. Ultimately each soul is accountable for itself. The principle of self-responsibility is a cornerstone of Edgar Cayce recommendations.

6) Look ahead rather the back: The present and the future cannot be understood outside the context of the past but in essence he was saying to always look ahead and never back and understand that you are going to come back again. We should make choices that will help create the best possible results in the next lifetime.

7) Changing anything starts with an ideal: Motives, purposes, and ideals are the center of Cayce’s psychology. If we want to change anything in life we have to start at the motivational level.

8) All time is one time: Sometimes we get hints about the deeper mysteries of time (e.g. a precognitive dream). If we pay close attention to our inner lives, we might find clues that time is more complex than we think.

9) Success cannot be measured by material standards: Measuring success, especially in terms of one’s soul, is elusive because we cannot use the same standards for measuring the internal and external life.

10) Courage is essential to any spiritual growth: High aspirations and ideals are not enough, we have to do something with them.

11) Evil is real and comes in many forms:

a) A lack of awareness – a deficit in conscious awareness
b) Extremism – we need to watch for our own tendency to go to extremes
c) Aggression and invasion – all human relations have the potential for these forms of evil
d) Transformation – stay engaged with anything ungodly and keep working to transform it
e) Rebellion and willfulness – we choose every day how to respond to evil; the focus is on our behavior – are we going against the impulse to bring the spirit into the material world.
12) Learn to stand up for yourself; learn to say no when it is needed: It is similar to self-assertion and setting boundaries. [30]

Atlantis
Atlantis is a legendary tale that has provided one of the most intriguing and enduring mysteries of all time. Plato wrote the first known account of Atlantis ca. 355 B.C in two of his later dialogues, Timaeus and Critias. The narrative involved actual historical figures and contained other accurate historical elements as well. Plato’s story of Atlantis comes from the tradition of orally handing down an important story from one generation to the next. [31]

Edgar Cayce and Atlantis
Speculations and debate on Plato’s Atlantis started the moment he first related the tale and have never stopped. Beginning in the 1800s, however, a completely unique set of Atlantis ideas emerged and the most influential of these came from Theosophy. Blavatsky’s Atlantis speculations are primarily described in The Secret Doctrine. Like Plato, Blavatsky wrote that civilizations are periodically destroyed by cataclysms that result in changes in the earth’s surface, but she added that each new root race springs forth from the destruction. According to Blavatsky, the third root race was called Lemuria and it began some 18 million years ago in the Indian and Pacific Oceans and the major remains today are Australia, the islands of the Pacific, and portions of California. The development of the fourth root race – Atlantis – greatly overlapped with the Lemurians, and Blavatsky indicated that a major destruction of Lemuria occurred 4,25 million years ago. [32]

How is the legend of Atlantis connected with the Edgar Cayce life readings? The 2500 life readings in file were given for approximately 1600 different people. About 700 of these people had incarnations in Atlantis that influenced their present lives. There was a coherent, non-contradictory series of events in those readings. According to Cayce, many individual souls who had one or more incarnations in Atlantis are reincarnating in this century, particularly in America. Along with technological abilities, they bring tendencies for being extremists. Often, they exhibit individual and group karma associated with selfishness and exploitation of others. Instead of a continent destroyed in a single day, as related by Plato, we get glimpses of men’s activity in a land wrecked by at least three major upheavals at widely separated times. [33]

In the readings it is revealed that Atlantis, located in the area of the Atlantic Ocean stretching from Gibraltar to the Gulf of Mexico, was first occupied by an advanced race of humans in 210,000 B.C. By 50,000 B.C., the country had developed an advanced culture with strange technology. Cayce’s Atlantis was a maritime culture throughout its entire existence, trading with nearly all of the other lands of the world. Plentiful natural resources existed on the temperate islands. Temples were constructed in the cities. One fascination with Cayce’s Atlantis concerns a mysterious crystal, similar to a laser-like device, because it became the reason for the struggle between two factions, the peaceful spiritual group, Law of One, and the Sons of Belial, who worshipped self-aggrandizement, sought power over others, and practiced human sacrifice. Cayce’s story of how the destructive forces were unleashed is entwined with the mysterious crystal. [34] "

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Such knowledge has proven useful, imho, in better understanding humanity and our history.
But if we are truly at the tail end of the Kali Yuga (which seems likely), it would have taken a lot more than a philosophy and a handful of Theosophists to transform the current paradigm at this time.
However, Cayce did not heed the warnings that have come from various spiritual sources about the dangers inherent in using one's psychic powers, particularly without adhering to a strict spiritual discipline.
The wikipedia article goes on to say:
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"Edgar Cayce did not pay much attention to the rules of diet he so stringently recommended to others and he was also a chain-smoker. [35]Throughout 1941 and 1942, readings repeatedly warned Cayce about his poor diet, high blood pressure, respiratory problems, and various lesions and other obstructions in his intestinal tract. The warnings came as no surprise to his wife Gertrude and his secretary Glady because of his high-fat diet, his smoking, and a lack of sleep. At time, the “Source” even appeared to be angry with Cayce’s inability to better take care of himself. It was a tragic irony that Cayce didn’t act on the advice given, probably due to the ever-increasing demands being placed on him after the publication of There is a River which brought many new members to A.R.E. in 1943. The deluge of publicity brought an estimated 4,500 requests for readings and a lot of dollars for the organization. He was over-extending himself until he was stopped by a stroke in August 1944. He gave his last reading on September 17, 1944 for himself. Everyone present was counseled to be at peace. Recommendations were given for Cayce’s physical comfort, but little else. He passed away on January 3, 1945. His wife Gertrude followed him on April 1, 1945. [36]"

[TomKat]

Posted by onawah (here)
Women & the Theosophical Movement: Pioneers, Visionaries, Leaders
Susanne Hoepfl-Wellenhofer
Premieres Mar 10, 2022
Theosophical Society
117K subscribers

"As anyone familiar with theosophy knows, the movement’s early leaders included two prominent women: Helena Blavatsky and Annie Besant. Female leadership was highly unusual in spiritual and religious organizations at that time, so naturally the organization attracted other powerful women who also contributed to the spreading of Theosophical ideas. Join us to find out more about three such women—Constanze Wachtmeister, a contemporary of Helen Blavatsky, Wanda Dynowska, a contemporary of Annie Besant, and Dora Kunz, co-creator of Therapeutic Touch and former president of the society— and how their contributions can inspire our work in the 21st century.

Watch more videos on Theosophy here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...

Susanne Hoepfl-Wellenhofer was born in Austria and has been living and working in the U.S. since 1986. Even before finding Theosophy in 2010, she had been following her own spiritual path, comparing religion, science, philosophy, and psychology for over 20 years. She is currently the president of the Washington, D.C. Lodge and recently created a course for the Online School of Theosophy. She has a law degree from the University of Graz and a master’s degree in educational technology from George Washington University, where she worked for 20 years before retiring in 2019. She continues to translate German to English, including texts from Theosophist Dr. Franz Hartmann, and she is also a yoga instructor. Learn more at spiritualityconsciousnessandme.com.

This program was made possible thanks to the generous support of Sydney MacInnis. To learn about sponsoring a program, contact us at giving@theosophical.org."
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Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=pUmXD7-wD30

Theosophy is one of the schools of Luciferianism, like Benjamin Creme's Share International, that are always trying to take over popular mysticism in furtherance of world government. Their publishing company, Lucis Press, was changed from Lucifer.
Krishnamurti saw through them and is more worthwhile reading.

[Wind]

Posted by TomKat (here)
Krishnamurti saw through them and is more worthwhile reading.

Krishnamurti was groomed since childhood, yet he didn't want the mantle of a spiritual leader, Maitreya. He went on to change the world in a different way and many can attest that he was one of the greatest thinkers in the last century. I can't claim to be an expert on Theosophy, I have studied it only a litte and have known something about Blavatsky and Leadbeater, not so much about the others such as Besant, Bailey etc. I was mainly interested in Blavatsky because she seemed to know about Atlantis a lot just like Cayce did. It seems to me that theosophists got many things very right, but also some of their info was not quite correct.

Rudolf Steiner didn't agree with some of the things either with the theosophists and moved on to form his own branch, the Anthroposophical Society which is still in quite good standing. About Steiner I know some things, but that's also a subject I haven't studied very much. Anthroposophy wasn't exactly my cup of tea either, many of Steiner's ideas and views were revolved around the teachings of Goethe.

What actually makes me curious is the fact that did the Great White Brotherhood actually exist with the Mahatmas such as Morya or were they actually just the imaginations of Blavatsky, as I lack the knowledge on this subject I am not convinced either way quite yet.

[shaberon]

Posted by norman (here)
His own fascination with the subject isn't exactly clear to me, but my observer's take on it, so far, is that i's a kind of 'Luciferianism Lite' . . . and who knows, considering how little any of us really know yet, I may have to drop that word 'Lite' later.

Correct.

To begin with, the name Lucifer was for example that of a Catholic bishop in the 400s. The idea that it is something diabolical is perhaps from Paradise Lost?

For the most part, it is an alternate name for Venus.

Behind this is basically Gnosticism, the followers of which were eventually exterminated as heretics.

In the nineteenth century, the Rosetta Stone was discovered, which led to a kind of semi-gnostic revivalism which is the major basis of the French Rites in Masonry. That is why these kinds of groups were considered better candidates for "the real teaching". Of course it is not real Gnosticism. The Gnostics are the Druze and Mandeans, and you cannot join them, because they are closed societies.

Theosophy only provides knowledge about this, it does not say to do any masonic rites, and from the very beginning, HPB distanced herself from what would become The Golden Dawn and anything of that kind.

The difficulty I had when I realized it was not "restoring the Mysteries" or any of those grand ambitions or magnamanious ceremonies or really anything in western magic at all, was that it did not actually even provide any kind of spiritual practice.

It was only by following the personality of HPB to the very end, instead of going through others' opinions about her, that it becomes perfectly clear that her intention was to train disciples in Raja Yoga. However, this never really got off the ground and was not the course of action followed by the organization that "replaced" her.


She has used a general Indian name for something while herself being actually Buddhist. And so she is a step short of actually being able to explain or promote Buddhism because it is new to her. However she worked for Morya who with respect to the Indian Vedantic systems says:


We never were Adwaitees.

Morya worked for the Mahachohan, who had no interest in spreading anything other than Buddhism. It is completely correct that Tibet at the time was undergoing an internal purge of what it considered charlatanry and sorcery. Lhasa was an international center which for example had an exclave of about a hundred Muslim families. However, Europeans, or, particularly Franks and English or Pelings had been banned since the Ming Empire. Their international relations did have standing friendly terms with various Indians such as Sikhs and some of the Yogis, with respect to whose doctrines, Morya says:


Are nevertheless in error.

HPB's Theosophy only has the ability to introduce you to Raja Yoga in a tolerant way that at least prevents you from assuming that followers of all creeds are idiots.

She claims to represent not "the" but "a" Yogacara school. Well, then, If I have been a Buddhist Yogacara devotee for over thirty years, I am in a position to respond to what little she says about it. And in this case I would say she is on the right track but she is not infallible. She probably does have a few mistakes, but, these are not really the same as most of the rumors about her. Compared to the fact that Europe would hand her an honorary masonic certificate of the highest kind, she was not allowed in the inner sanctums of Lhasa.

Well then the famous Nalanda University is "the" Yogacara school, which is not "a" school, but more like a cluster of various kinds. In actuality, even though this was a Buddhist institution, the teaching of Buddhism would have to be described as something like a "higher education" that sat on top of all of the Indian classics and Hindu mysticism. You could go to it and never become Buddhist and just learn a trade. HPB cannot even be accused of being a Buddhist evangelist, and she does actually have a lot more knowledge and experience about India and the world. So I find her more representative of the ancient Nalanda system. I would not find her that great of an authority on how Buddhism really works, but, she is at least aware of the main way in which I personally train.

[shaberon]

Posted by TomKat (here)
Theosophy is one of the schools of Luciferianism, like Benjamin Creme's Share International, that are always trying to take over popular mysticism in furtherance of world government. Their publishing company, Lucis Press, was changed from Lucifer.
Krishnamurti saw through them and is more worthwhile reading.

Correct.

Krishnamurti was intercepted when he was about six years old by CWL.

Ms. Besant was an intellectual who came under the influence of what we might call orthodox Hindu forces similar to Dayananda's Arya Samaj. Although this was originally the main hope and plan for the Theosophical Society, it turned into a kind of fascist nationalism for which he was kicked out and the Mahatmas' response was:


We will stop him.

CWL was according to Gandhi, "a liar and a diabolical necromancer".

*He* is responsible for what is *called/known as* Theosophy.

ULT includes none of this. Just Blavatsky and W. Q. Judge.

Alice Bailey worked in a hospital in India for a few years and did not really know the ULT doctrine. In her last year she joined the "Back to Blavatsky" movement. She also attempted to join Shuddha Dharma Mandala, which is an Indian group promoting itself as the Spiritual World Government. It is not known that she ever even got an answer from them, but, it is an easy inspiration for her version of it.


I am sorry that all of these blasphemers of the holy name of Maitreya are going directly to hell for eons.

Krishnamurti and many others are what you would call pedophile victims.


I do not know what to do about the difficulty of ULT Blavatskayan Theosophy being stuck with a similar name as that used by others. I can say that by its own definition, it never gained any successful disciples of any other Europeans. Could not be more detached from anything after its time period.

[shaberon]

Posted by Wind (here)
What actually makes me curious is the fact that did the Great White Brotherhood actually exist with the Mahatmas such as Morya or were they actually just the imaginations of Blavatsky, as I lack the knowledge on this subject I am not convinced either way quite yet.

Yes but not exactly. Definitely not with that name, which probably comes from Shasta, California.

Subba Row distinguished between the Northern and Southern branches of Indian occultism, which were in partnership. By "nothern", he mainly means "Tibet", which can accurately be described as able to give orders to its members.


The South Indian Lodge is almost undetectable but there was a Master Narayan who lived near Madras.

The Theosophical Mahatmas were well-known in many places from Ceylon to Benares because they were pilgrims who frequently inhabited caves.

Pilgrimage is an ancient institution of India. Something like a bunch of circuits all wired together. Dayanand Sarasvati actually did spend years hiking across the Himalayas until his shoes wore off. He was accepted as a disciple at Bhadrinath. This is not a permanent temple; there are meetings which happen following astrological events. That actually is how that works. Well, he got this name Sarasvati from his initiatory guru. This is also a historical person. In fact we can easily trace his co-disciple or "spiritual brother" who became Kashi Naresh, which means advisor to the Maharajah of Benares. He was met by famous personalities such as Mark Twain and Alexandra David-Neel.

That aspect is completely real. B. Swami has a page:






There is an inscription in Bihar from 1773 which refers to an emissary from the Panchen Lama to the Maharajah of Benares. The motto of the original Theosophical Society is the motto of the Maharajah of Benares.






The best example I can give you for international affairs concerns the British bombardment of Alexandria. In retrospect, it does not sound like the worst possible holocaust happened, but, it was expected they were going to attack there, and they did.

Koothoomi said that some Tibetans had been dispatched along with Sikhs and Druze to assist the occultists of Alexandria and "what they are guarding".

By inference, I would guess it would be the full set of "Books of Hermes".

They do claim some kind of partnership of occultists, even "one or two" in almost all of the countries. Serapis Bey said there were five lodges named after Solomon and so forth.

If Gnostic heretics had been exterminated, then, what you are left with could be described as periodical resurgences of the Druze element from the Byzantine sphere.


It goes like this.

In 1879 there was a Papal Bull on the Johannite Heresy. Around this time, the Jesuits offered HPB 10,000 Francs to shut up about Jesus.

Now you will notice there was a *mistaken* Templar heritage that was circulated in Freemasonry in 1736 and was ultimately rejected by the grand inter-continental assemblies of the 1770s.

The Vatican knows more. They understood that the Templars and some of the Hospitallers were Johannites.

Well, the Hospitallers were able to continue on Malta. This Johannite initiatic system was originally successful with the alchemists of Prague in the 1400s and then the Medici Renaissance of Tuscany, which all ran into difficulties and it mainly moved to Vienna, temporarily, and then stationed in Berlin, for a while. Eventually it was totally chased to St. Petersburg. Malta ceased to operate as such after Pinto, and the ensuing organization after it being real Knights is who knows what, some kind of political apparatus that is no longer the same thing.

You can see this reflected in the fact that Greek Masonic revolutionaries were aware of and opposed to the British system.

Mandeans are Johannites who blame all the deviations on "the followers of Jesus".

So there is a problem of "identity control" of the "real Jesus" going on within what has nominally been a "dictated doctrine" for centuries.

The pest of Gnosticism as a whole is going to lead someone through, was there a real one? Just like the Gospels, which already seem a little contradictory? And HPB predicted that something like the Nag Hammadi trove would come up.

Then you can see a shift at this time, which was perhaps discovered in America. The Catholic Church in general and the Jesuits since the 1500s are known for this iron-fisted "Jesus is just so" and repent or die and all that.

With newer, experimental political systems, a new strategy was revised saying:


We will work with any weak, watered-down form of Jesus.

Suddenly, it is ok for a North American shaman to Eagle Dance for the Lord in almost any way he chooses.

Suddenly, the Jesuits are Catholics, and they can also be anything that has Jesus in it. Such as--Alice Bailey's material.

In those hands are the U. N., C. F. R., and things of that nature.

But from the view of original Theosophy, all that is happening is:

Exactly what we warned you about.

You did not "stick to the original". That is what was asked.


ULT is not a power or political anything. The superiors that were behind it, however, are. This "spiritual advisor" role used to be standard in Asian politics, in some cases with the Rajas or even Maharajas being, themselves, disciples. The Mahachohan of Theosophy would be such an advisor to the Dalai Lama. This however is a very ancient office.

Around the year 750, the famous figure of Buddhism named Padmasambhava entered Tibet and went around subduing demons with Vajra Kilaya. At the site of Samye' he encountered Pehar the most powerful King Gyalpo. Do you know what this means?


Well, the Gyalpo is a class of Angry Ghost which is produced when a king dies in a state of having betrayed his country.

Our faith tells us that the power of the Buddha makes the spirit yield and swear an oath to protect us.

Do you understand this? Our teaching says that there are Four Kings who are standing in the position of what you would call the gates of death. They are really present in life, and, they are present in death. They are all extremely dangerous. Pehar is the King of Kings. Control of the Pehar is in a tulku who was originally a Nyingma lineage and became part of the Gelug order.

Does this make sense? We are saying it is a fact in nature, like snow or centipedes, and it is part of everyone's inner psychology to which our practices are geared at a similar form of control as done by the mighty Padmasambhava.

That is not Enlightenment, but it is part of the power of the Buddha.

The ULT is nothing, but real yoga lineages definitely intertwine with politics and power.

[onawah]

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[cannawizard]

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"As anyone familiar with theosophy knows, the movement’s early leaders included two prominent women: Helena Blavatsky and Annie Besant. Female leadership was highly unusual in spiritual and religious organizations at that time, so naturally the organization attracted other powerful women who also contributed to the spreading of Theosophical ideas. Join us to find out more about three such women—Constanze Wachtmeister, a contemporary of Helen Blavatsky, Wanda Dynowska, a contemporary of Annie Besant, and Dora Kunz, co-creator of Therapeutic Touch and former president of the society— and how their contributions can inspire our work in the 21st century.

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[Bo Atkinson]

Thanks shaberon, your explanations fit with my preferred readings about Theosophy, except for one thing, that is, to underline its underlying purpose. According to my moderated understanding, it was meant to connect eastern and western life understandings, and one difficult part of which, was ripe for that time period, that is, to introduce the basic idea of harmonizing western sciences with eastern consciousness practices.

In short, Blavatsky had a task to perform, and it was successful in tearing down many barriers which had formerly blocked the way. Succeeding generations could then bypass world-view blockages, regardless of how expedient Theosophy appeared.

The stalemated life-after-life, the savoring of diverse cultures and oppositions, repeating eon-after-eon, has needed abrupt breakthroughs. Otherwise, we’d be living the instigator and victim forever. Mankind trips out in the deep.

Theosophy could fill one gap. Whereas direct interference with free will of mankind would violate the laws of life. Expediency by colorful individuals appears to lawfully gain some ground, and avoids another folding of tectonic plates, just like Atlantis. What is our choice? Live with it.