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    Default [HOAX] Obama calls for global dictatorship

    Here's the hard-do-find video

    https://gettr.com/post/pwmv14af2a

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    Default Re: [HOAX] Obama calls for global dictatorship

    Quote Posted by TomKat (here)
    Here's the hard-do-find video

    https://gettr.com/post/pwmv14af2a
    "And for the international order that we have worked for generations to build. Ordinary men and women are too small minded to govern their own affairs. The order and progress can only come when the individual surrender their rights to an all powerful, sovereignty."
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    Default Re: [HOAX] Obama calls for global dictatorship

    When and where did he say this? There is quite a large audience present here. And who was that audience he was addressing? What is the provenance of this video?

    There is too much technology out there to produce fake video and audio to take this clip seriously until that information is here.

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    Default Re: [HOAX] Obama calls for global dictatorship

    With all due respect, sometimes I think I am observing an element of incognito fear-mongering here. Either that, or I wonder if someone is gullible to believe certain things that should be detectable as fake, or it is real and perhaps I am the fool. Everything is possible. But I have some peers who support me on certain topics (e.g. not being vaxed) but some of them are also the ones who may tend to share fake crap like this. It makes me feel extremely isolated because I've already been "rejected" by the normies, and when the not-so-normies I'm in touch with share tuff like this I feel like I have done myself no favours with my own lifestyle choices.

    Quite frankly, I think many people would feel better if they could "confirm" that the world is against them so that it might justify any problem they have in their lives. Maybe it is quite addictive to constantly find new reasons to believe that this is so, but... yeah...


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    Default Re: [HOAX] Obama calls for global dictatorship

    Obummer was the very best spokesman for the Americentric-globalist Empire, ever. There is PLENTY to indict him for, from war crimes to fascist corporate collusion. Why in the hell use this stupid clip OBVIOUSLY taken out of context. I think I remember hearing this speech and he was describing the mythical US enemy's agenda, not admitting the US's. A longer clip, starting even seconds earier would make it completely obvious that this is bullsh!t.

    I recommend that the mods mark this as a hoax and and move it to hoaxes.
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    Default Re: [HOAX] Obama calls for global dictatorship

    The lips dont seem to match the words spoken unless there is a slight delay between the two. Doesn't seem legit to me.

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    Default Re: [HOAX] Obama calls for global dictatorship

    • that video has been shared multiple times in almost all conspiracy research platforms ... some claim it is a deepfake video see here why:
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    Default Re: [HOAX] Obama calls for global dictatorship

    Quote Posted by Kryztian (here)
    When and where did he say this? There is quite a large audience present here. And who was that audience he was addressing? What is the provenance of this video?

    There is too much technology out there to produce fake video and audio to take this clip seriously until that information is here.
    Where did he say this? In the video.You haven't pointed out the part you suspect as fake. Provenance? If I were you, I would ask CNN about that -- And don't believe anything CNN doesn't bless, for God's sake!

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    Default Re: [HOAX] Obama calls for global dictatorship

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    Ordinary men and women are too small minded to govern their own affairs. The order and progress can only come when the individual surrender their rights to an all powerful, sovereignty."

    Here in the U. S., we *did* surrender, it is called "applying for citizenship".

    Whether he said this or not is about a hundred years after the fact.

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    Default Re: [HOAX] Obama calls for global dictatorship

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    Quote Posted by Kryztian (here)
    When and where did he say this?
    Where did he say this? In the video.
    Obviously.

    The video shows Obama standing in front of some flags, and there are cut aways to an audience in a large hall. Where is the hall? Who is the audience? When was this speech given? In other words "Where did he say this?" I can imagine Obama saying some creepy things in private D. Rockefeller, Kissinger, etc., but to say something like this in public is another matter.

    Quote You haven't pointed out the part you suspect as fake.
    I suspect that entire video is a fake. (and am open to the possiblity it isn't, that's why I asked about the provenance.) Perhaps it was taken from another from a speech he actually did and then the technology was applied (see Exomatrix's post #7) to change the words.

    As Dennis points out, we already have the clear verifialble evidence to know that Obama is a war criminal and should focus on that instead of dubious information like this.

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    Default Re: [HOAX] Obama calls for global dictatorship

    Dennis is spot on. I recall seeing this clip pop up several years back, framed in the same manner it is here. When the speech is viewed in full it becomes very apparent that he was NOT advocating for this.

    Unfortunately I do not recall where or when this speech was given, and therefore can't provide the full speech. I do recall clearly though that this snippet was taken VERY out of context and completely misrepresents what he actually said.

    I am certainly not a fan of his. No offense to TomKat, or anyone else - I realize the video is framed in this way with the intent that it be taken at face value, but it is purely a smear job. We don't need nonsense, fabricated evidence like this to shape an opinion of him when there is plenty of legitimate evidence already available.
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    Default Re: [HOAX] Obama calls for global dictatorship

    Quote Posted by ClearWater (here)
    Dennis is spot on. I recall seeing this clip pop up several years back, framed in the same manner it is here. When the speech is viewed in full it becomes very apparent that he was NOT advocating for this.

    Unfortunately I do not recall where or when this speech was given, and therefore can't provide the full speech. I do recall clearly though that this snippet was taken VERY out of context and completely misrepresents what he actually said.

    I am certainly not a fan of his. No offense to TomKat, or anyone else - I realize the video is framed in this way with the intent that it be taken at face value, but it is purely a smear job. We don't need nonsense, fabricated evidence like this to shape an opinion of him when there is plenty of legitimate evidence already available.
    Mod note from Bill:

    Many thanks, and that was most perfectly stated. And right, no offense to TomKat at all. We're all here to figure things out together, and sometimes we all get things wrong — in which case the community is usually admirably quick to offer corrections. The mods will keep the thread open, but we've moved it to the Known Hoaxes and Other Bad Information section.


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    Default Re: [HOAX] Obama calls for global dictatorship

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    Quote Posted by ClearWater (here)
    Dennis is spot on. I recall seeing this clip pop up several years back, framed in the same manner it is here. When the speech is viewed in full it becomes very apparent that he was NOT advocating for this.

    Unfortunately I do not recall where or when this speech was given, and therefore can't provide the full speech. I do recall clearly though that this snippet was taken VERY out of context and completely misrepresents what he actually said.

    I am certainly not a fan of his. No offense to TomKat, or anyone else - I realize the video is framed in this way with the intent that it be taken at face value, but it is purely a smear job. We don't need nonsense, fabricated evidence like this to shape an opinion of him when there is plenty of legitimate evidence already available.
    Mod note from Bill:

    Many thanks, and that was most perfectly stated. And right, no offense to TomKat at all. We're all here to figure things out together, and sometimes we all get things wrong — in which case the community is usually admirably quick to offer corrections. The mods will keep the thread open, but we've moved it to the Known Hoaxes and Other Bad Information section.

    He is indeed saying that we have to surrender our rights because we're too small-minded to govern ourselves. Nobody has presented any evidence it's a hoax. If so, it's a good one. After 2 years of pandemic hoax, I have no doubt he believes what he said.
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    Default Re: [HOAX] Obama calls for global dictatorship

    Found the full speech. The clip from the OP starts at about the 3 minute 20 second mark. Watching from the 1-4 minute mark should be enough to see that it is clearly and intentionally taken out of context.


    Quote President Obama delivers remarks at Palais Des Beaux Arts in Brussels, Belgium. March 26, 2014.
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    Quote Posted by ClearWater (here)
    Found the full speech. The clip from the OP starts at about the 3 minute 20 second mark. Watching from the 1-4 minute mark should be enough to see that it is clearly and intentionally taken out of context.


    Quote President Obama delivers remarks at Palais Des Beaux Arts in Brussels, Belgium. March 26, 2014.
    I saw that version too while ago ... so I KNEW the other one was a manipulated version, but I could not remember when and where exactly ... so I had "no proof" for TomKat ... that is why I have chosen the "deep fake video" option instead.

    We all can have that sometimes we KNOW something is 100% BS ... but have not the time nor the exact memory of details to proof that point of view ... so I have to be careful what I claim, assume or insinuate!

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    Lightbulb Re: [HOAX] Obama calls for global dictatorship

    Imagine if something is BS AND 100% correct at the same time ... meaning it is indeed edited and a misrepresentation of what actually happened but at the same time the content is closer to the truth than anything else ... which is an instructional case for deep psychology research. You can compare it with advanced sarcasm & satire.

    To cover up a lie is best done in the open using "reverse psychology" and most liars know they can not win their case via normal honest ways ... so they have to "feel" as if all they say is "their truth" and radiate that "feeling" as if it is 100% genuine hoping others join the (believed) white-washed lies! ... So part of the strategy is inserting mass (group) psychology mechanisms very similar to abusing NLP & Gaslighting techniques.

    "Perception Managers"

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    Default Re: [HOAX] Obama calls for global dictatorship

    Quote Posted by ClearWater (here)
    Found the full speech. The clip from the OP starts at about the 3 minute 20 second mark. Watching from the 1-4 minute mark should be enough to see that it is clearly and intentionally taken out of context.

    Excellent find ClearWater! Bravo!

    Of course Obama's actual words in the genuine video are 100% the opposite of what "he" was saying in the hoaxed video. They are eloquent and noble, about the rights of freedoms of every human, about governments deriving their power by the popular consent of the people.

    But if you look at the entire context of his speech, which is about the Ukraine, you can see, eight years ago, how he was laying out the plans for the globalist war to make Ukraine a debt slave nation to Western banks, transfer their democratic sovereign powers to the European Union and establish it as a military asset for NATO nation, all while white washing the actions of the Ukrainian racist Nazis he is supporting.

    Although Obama is a conman working on behalf of the world's largest criminal network, he will probably never be tried in the Hague, but he will be tried for decades in the court of public opinion. And for that to happen, it is important to focus on the good, solid hard evidence, and not hoaxed and garbage information. The more that debunkable garbage information is put forward, the more his supporters will focus on it and try and make his detractors look delusional and irrational. Glad this video was posted here and even more glad it was thoroughly debunked.

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    Default Re: [HOAX] Obama calls for global dictatorship

    Quote Posted by ClearWater (here)
    Found the full speech. The clip from the OP starts at about the 3 minute 20 second mark. Watching from the 1-4 minute mark should be enough to see that it is clearly and intentionally taken out of context.


    Quote President Obama delivers remarks at Palais Des Beaux Arts in Brussels, Belgium. March 26, 2014.
    Thanks! I was a victim of a cheap trick like: "some say we should kill all puppies" edited to "we should kill all puppies."

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    Default Re: [HOAX] Obama calls for global dictatorship

    Maybe we should have a list of known "black hats" -- people who purposely disinform, like this Marcus Johnson fellow at : https://www.gettr.com/user/marcusjonson01

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