Hollyweird - Will Smith & Chris Rock Incident Staged?

[RunningDeer]

The ratings were up a bit from last year, thought it wasn’t higher because of the slap. (obviously)

Oscars Draw 16.6 Million Viewers, Soaring 58% From Last Year’s Historic Low

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An extra image: source - Nielsen Media Research (2010-2022)

[onawah]

AwakenWithJP--Staged or Real?
Will Smith Hits Chris Rock!
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"At the Oscars this year, Will Smith slapped Chris Rock in the face after he made a bald joke about Will Smith's wife Jada. Was this real or staged?"

( I think it was done not only for Hollywood ratings, but as a distraction from genuine issues.
Hollywood is a big, ongoing distraction, constantly blurring the lines between reality and the version of reality we are being programmed to accept, but with the laptop looming, they needed something with a bit of extra punch, if you'll pardon the pun...)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=QgI2nnrnjz8

[Bluegreen]

Irrespective of whether spontaneous or staged, Mr Smith was attending this event not as a firefighter or medical practitioner about to get an award, but as a performer. He is also, necessarily, always well aware of his surroundings, in this case, on stage. Also keep in mind that both of these individuals are very skilled and experienced at pretending.

[ExomatrixTV]

• Celeb Comedians Respond To Will Smith’s Unhinged Attack On Chris Rock:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=GJ-Bh0yfc-I

[Bill Ryan]

1. No, it was real. There's not a single person in Hollywood who's said that it wasn't.
2. Chris Rock is an a**hole. (And always has been.)
3. I'm with Will Smith. And with traditional masculine values, which are rapidly becoming extinct. No milquetoast soyboy would have had the courage to do that in public.
   
   (But of course, someone could easily get canceled for saying all that)

[Patient]

Hmmm, well this still needs to be officially verified, but...

Pfizer sponsored the oscars.

Pfizer is in stage 3 of an anti-alopecia drug (cure, treatment or vaccine - not sure).

So I suppose Will and Chris have already been paid.

[Satori]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

1. No, it was real. There's not a single person in Hollywood who's said that it wasn't.
2. Chris Rock is an a**hole. (And always has been.)
3. I'm with Will Smith. And with traditional masculine values, which are rapidly becoming extinct. No milquetoast soyboy would have had the courage to do that in public.
   
   (But of course, someone could easily get canceled for saying all that)

Is this satire Bill, or is it real? Is this an act, or is it fact?

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Satori (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

1. No, it was real. There's not a single person in Hollywood who's said that it wasn't.
2. Chris Rock is an a**hole. (And always has been.)
3. I'm with Will Smith. And with traditional masculine values, which are rapidly becoming extinct. No milquetoast soyboy would have had the courage to do that in public.
   
   (But of course, someone could easily get canceled for saying all that)

Is this satire Bill, or is it real? Is this an act, or is it fact?

Well, let's look at it this way.

Chris Rock will never make a cheap, unfunny, snide "joke" about someone else's wife, who's been sick for four years which is why she hasn't got any hair, in public before a huge TV audience, ever again. And I'd say that's a win.

Sometimes, when someone you care about is insulted before a huge audience, the honorable thing to do isn't just to smile awkwardly and look at the floor and hope the moment just passes. There's no honesty, or courage, or integrity, or loyalty, in that.

[Tigger]

If it’s real, Will Smith is nothing more than a thug. Full stop. It’s assault, and a demonstration of a complete lack of self-control. Doesn’t matter that someone made a joke about his wife; it gives NOBODY the right to just slug someone on stage like a petty thug. Why he wasn’t immediately thrown out of the venue in disgrace is beyond me.

If it’s staged, Will Smith and Chris Rock are complicit in a shameless attempt to gain attention and/or create a diversion (for whatever reason). Either way, it demonstrates just how sick and depraved Hollywood really is, and just how much real trouble the Western world is in right now.

I mean, seriously? The western world is falling apart, the entire world is on the brink of complete slavery, China is advancing across the Pacific, and the people are still hypnotised by the bright lights and fake news. That’s why the sleeping masses are even giving fuel to this meaningless debate about movie stars. Get perspective.

[onawah]

It wouldn't be surprising if no one in Hollywood would say that it wasn't real, not because it wasn't real, but because they know full well the price they would pay for saying so.
These are very dangerous times for truth speakers, and that has escalated hugely even just since the last Oscars.

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

1. No, it was real. There's not a single person in Hollywood who's said that it wasn't.
2. Chris Rock is an a**hole. (And always has been.)
3. I'm with Will Smith. And with traditional masculine values, which are rapidly becoming extinct. No milquetoast soyboy would have had the courage to do that in public.
   
   (But of course, someone could easily get canceled for saying all that)

[Caliban]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Satori (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

1. No, it was real. There's not a single person in Hollywood who's said that it wasn't.
2. Chris Rock is an a**hole. (And always has been.)
3. I'm with Will Smith. And with traditional masculine values, which are rapidly becoming extinct. No milquetoast soyboy would have had the courage to do that in public.
   
   (But of course, someone could easily get canceled for saying all that)

Is this satire Bill, or is it real? Is this an act, or is it fact?

Well, let's look at it this way.

Chris Rock will never make a cheap, unfunny, snide "joke" about someone else's wife, who's been sick for four years which is why she hasn't got any hair, in public before a huge TV audience, ever again. And I'd say that's a win.

Sometimes, when someone you care about is insulted before a huge audience, the honorable thing to do isn't just to smile awkwardly and look at the floor and hope the moment just passes. There's no honesty, or courage, or integrity, or loyalty, in that.

I haven't posted on this forum in two years and I rarely lurk here but I came tonight to see if anyone's honored Jordan Maxwell's passing and apparently not.

I shouldn't be surprised at what Bill Ryan posted here because it goes along with the very event that he commented on. I'll just say a few things.
One, most people in Hollywood are assholes.
Two, you think "traditional masculine values" are assaulting someone for telling a joke about your wife? And a tame (some even said complimentary) one at that?

And you double down on it. "Chris Rock will never make a cheap, unfunny, snide "joke" about someone else's wife..." So it's honest, courageous and integrity to attack a comedian onstage for a joke he's told--even, yes, if it's crass or unfeeling. I find that point of view astonishing.

In light of world events it's a shadow, but a dark one. And the head of this forum is applauding it. RIP Jordan Maxwell.

Hello again--and goodbye.

[TargeT]

for clarification... do NOT fall for the "pad on the cheek" BS... first off, anyone that's ever gotten in a fight would be able to tell you that those pics going around of the "pad" are just stupid... nothing that small would ever matter in a striking incident (I smell easily disproven... )

secondly.. the body mass difference between the two individuals was significant, C rock is 5'10 and 165lb... W Smith is 6'2 and 200 lbs...

this situation was staged.

[TargeT]

Posted by Caliban (here)
I haven't posted on this forum in two years and I rarely lurk here but I came tonight to see if anyone's honored Jordan Maxwell's passing and apparently not.

I shouldn't be surprised at what Bill Ryan posted here because it goes along with the very event that he commented on. I'll just say a few things.
One, most people in Hollywood are assholes.
Two, you think "traditional masculine values" are assaulting someone for telling a joke about your wife? And a tame (some even said complimentary) one at that?

And you double down on it. "Chris Rock will never make a cheap, unfunny, snide "joke" about someone else's wife..." So it's honest, courageous and integrity to attack a comedian onstage for a joke he's told--even, yes, if it's crass or unfeeling. I find that point of view astonishing.

In light of world events it's a shadow, but a dark one. And the head of this forum is applauding it. RIP Jordan Maxwell.

Hello again--and goodbye.

Text is one of the worst ways to genuinely express ideas, I feel you have drastically misjudged what was attempted to be said here... (though, as I've said text is not the best avenue for unadulterated expression... so I am welcome to correction).

Regardless, the best methodology I've found is to be very open minded when interpreting thoughts conved via text... as we are honestly missing nearly 80% of the communication. (to be short, I think a re-evaluation is due in this instance. )

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Well, let's look at it this way.

Chris Rock will never make a cheap, unfunny, snide "joke" about someone else's wife, who's been sick for four years which is why she hasn't got any hair, .

I think you should look up what "alopecia" is and how it's basically what happens to 50%+ of men, but is socially unacceptable when it (rarely) happens to women .... also how this type of shallowness exacerbates stereotypes. (just as an aside from the (IMO) clear attention seekng behavior)

[Eva2]

Not sure what to think but did feel a general disinterest with the Hollywood lifestyle - interest in the celebrity culture seems to be definitely waning as people's values and focus are undergoing a major upheaval (in a good way I think) - perhaps this is also a way to garner interest in a way of life that is in its death throes. Still, I personally don't see this as a staged event but a genuine, not thought through, spontaneous reaction from someone reacting to an off colour joke at the expense of someone important to him.



This "examination" of the slap that went around the worold looks a bit over the top to me:

[Harmony]

Posted by Caliban (here)
I haven't posted on this forum in two years and I rarely lurk here but I came tonight to see if anyone's honored Jordan Maxwell's passing and apparently not.


Hello again--and goodbye.

You might like to add something to Jordon Maxwell has pased March 23, 2022 thread.

[Caliban]

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You might like to add something to Jordon Maxwell has pased March 23, 2022 thread.[/QUOTE]

Thank you for that, I couldn't find it, obviously.

[confused]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Sometimes, when someone you care about is insulted before a huge audience, the honorable thing to do isn't just to smile awkwardly and look at the floor and hope the moment just passes. There's no honesty, or courage, or integrity, or loyalty, in that.

Bill, it's been years since I've logged in to post, but felt compelled to in this case. Agree 100% in this statement. The problem is what is then more honorable thing to do. Whether this is real or not... Retaliation with violence no matter how big or small because of a perceived verbal insult is never the honorable thing to do. First, I would say in this case it is actually the weak and insecure thing to do, particularly given the size difference between the two men and the obvious lack of fighting threat presented by Chris. This is even more so because it IS in public, defending an ego that appears fragile for whatever reason. Second, justifying retaliation in such a way because of a verbal insult is such a subjective thing, where does it stop? It is not unthinkable to go down the imaginary rabbit hole with this and envision jail time for socially unacceptable verbal insults. I want to live in a society where freedom of speech, particularly freedom to insult without threat of physical harm, is considered sacred
Third, I suspect ones opinion may be affected here if they have children. As a father, I would never want my children to think this was an honorable way or responding to this insult. I would hope I am able to instill enough values and critical thinking in my children to come up with a better, less insecure reaction.

I could go on and on. This is coming from someone that is the prototypical masculine macho guy, having trained in MMA for most of my life at this point (the only activity I remain truly passionate about) and who grew up in an environment that was hyper aggressive among peers and can be described as a sort of survival of the fittest. One look at me and everyone just knows - tall, fit, thick neck, cauliflower ears, etc.... I NEVER get insulted, nor does anyone associating with me. I have learned to value more skillful and less insecure ways is handling methods in a traditionally masculine role, something I inherently lack and have been working on diligently, particularly since I became a father and hope to remain a good role model to my children.

[mokosh]

And where is the wife in all this? Is she leaning back and watched it happening? Weak!
If man and women are equal why didn't she stand up and told Chris she didn't like the joke. Was her ego that bruised? Don't make me laugh.

[scotslad]

Is Will Smith just a casualty in the great war against masculinity...

...or is he still struggling with the fact that his wife slept with his son's friend...?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=yxNTcMsULuY

[pueblo]

Hmmm....I don't remember Ricky Gervais getting slapped for basically insinuating that Hollyweird were all a bunch of pedophiles...

If Jada can't take a joke about Alopecia, that hair loss.