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    There has been a theory gaining a lot of traction across the world in the last number of years related to a differing view of our historical narrative.

    Previous 'resets' and general mysteries in our past. From the antediluvian pre culture - past to our more recent pre WW1 era mysteries. How has our defined historical narrative been formed?

    Who was Joseph Justus Scaliger? And how was our timeline of events decided upon? Were there other competing timelines existing and why does this matter?

    What happened in the late 1800`s and early 20th century, was Victor Hugo an initiate and why did he write essays discussing the old architecture with a venement sense of loss? I could probably formulate est guesses in response to all these questions without delving but would i be learning more or re-enforcing what it is i ''believe'' ...hard to say....

    Being a history advocate and enthusiast my whole life - Ulrich Wilcken`s ''Alexander'' or Tom Hollands ''Rubicon'' vividly brings the old world to light but is something missing?

    The idea of a loosely unified civilisation and culture existing in the world less than 500 years ago sounds preposterous and from what i can see has also been wrapped up with some Flat Earth nonsense, possibly by design, discredits extremely compelling archaeological evidence and the function of electromagnetism as a key component of the world and if one follows the thread, our ancient and not so ancient past.

    Scepticism by nature is healthy when coupled with discernment. Most of us here are enthused by new areas for research. Archaeological mysteries and anomalies are windows to the past ,but, without context, they are just ruins. No more than looking at cultures solely through an epistemological lense to provide answers. Combining these with what is accepted, where there are gaps, what anolmolies exist and what is the truth - creates a very interesting brew.

    This is a well produced (and seemingly funded series) that is easy on the eye and thought provoking...im interested...at least to find out more...

    Part 1 (10 mins) Introduction


    Part 2 (1hr 19mins) The Destruction of the Old World


    Part 3 (2 hrs 8 mins) The Mystery of the World's Fairs



    Website: https://stolenhistory.net/
    (Deals more with various mysterious/theories of history)

    Having an open mind is being able to marinate in information without ascribing belief or dogma to it. Easier said than done hey.......
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    If I have to count the questions raised that are (mostly) based upon assumptions not necessarily 100% verified & confirmed in all the three videos it would be a high number ... Nevertheless fascinating speculations & possible new insights derived from not yet proven assertions.

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    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    If I have to count the questions raised that are (mostly) based upon assumptions not necessarily 100% verified & confirmed in all the three videos it would be a high number ... Nevertheless fascinating speculations & possible new insights derived from not yet proven assertions.

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    For sure - but there in lies the joy of engaging with new perspectives

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    The great fire of Pittsburgh

    https://www.stolenhistory.org/articl...ittsburgh.615/

    The dawn of April 10, 1845, brought a warm, windy day. During a brief interlude in the winds just before noon, Ann Brooks, who worked on Ferry Street for Colonel William Diehl, left unattended a newly stoked fire lit to heat wash water. A spark from this fire ignited a nearby ice shed or barn.

    The fire companies responded, but got nothing but "a weak, sickly stream of muddy water" from their hoses, and the flames quickly spread to several buildings owned by Colonel Diehl, including his home, and to the Globe Cotton Factory.
    The bells of the Third Presbyterian Church had given the original alarm, but the church itself was only preserved by dropping its burning wooden cornice into the street.
    Once saved, its stone walls served as a barrier to the further spread of the fire toward the north and west.
    Then the wind veered to the southeast and gave the fire added vigor; a witness stated that "the roar of the flames was terrific, and their horrible glare, as they leaped through the dense black clouds of smoke, sweeping earth and sky, was appalling.
    Great Fire of Pittsburgh
    April 10, 1845, Fire destroys a third of Pittsburgh
    The Great Fire of 1845

    Detail from View of the Great Fire of Pittsburgh, 1846, a painting by witness William Coventry Wall.

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    The Kolbrin Bible:

    Millennia ago, Egyptian and Celtic authors recorded prophetic warnings for the future and their harbinger signs are now converging on 2012. These predictions are contained in The Kolbrin Bible, a secular wisdom text studied in the days of Jesus and lovingly preserved by generations of Celtic mystics in Great Britain. Nearly as big as the King James Bible, this 3600-year old text warns of an imminent, Armageddon-like conflict, but this is not the greatest threat. The authors of The Kolbrin Bible predict an end to life as we know it, by a celestial event. It will be the return of a massive space object, in a long elliptical orbit around our sun. Known to the Egyptians and Hebrews as the "Destroyer," the Celts later called it the "Frightener."

    Is this a genuine text or a hoax?

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    Downloadable PDF Link https://www.globalgreyebooks.com/ebo...in/kolbrin.pdf

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    By stolen history or what I would term “wrong history” we mean not history that includes some mistakes of fact, but history that is so egregiously misinformed that there is no correcting it. Anything involving Atlantis, or the supposition that the Irish built the Pyramids of Egypt, or a vast conspiracy of all the past authors of the 18th and 19th centuries ever published to conceal the true facts. Graham Hancock in modern times has mentioned linguistic links between old Irish and ancient Egyptian. There are many published authors from the previous centuries. Unfortunately modern authors don’t have ancient Gaelic language to understand the history.

    What is interesting is that so many old books have been side lined before the 20 century. The real history of Ireland was suppressed by the mid 17 century as it didn’t align with the history for the visitors that landed in Ireland; i.e. British planters for 800 years. The ancient annals written in ancient Gaelic show a completely different history. The reason why this history is unknown is there are very few ancient Gaelic scholars.

    Having researched and read ancient Celtic books, in particular THE TUATHA DE DANANN. There is a supporting PA thread of the Celtic link with the Egyptians
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...ghlight=Tuatha.

    An important book that was one of many side lined from history.

    Irish Wisdom Preserved in Bible & Pyramids (MacDari reading) 1923

    My reading of the Conor MacDari book from 1923. Relatively little is known about this author, but considering the content, we can safely assume why his works are completely side lined.

    https://ia801006.us.archive.org/7/it...%20MacDari.pdf

    In this rare book explains the secret history of the people of Ireland and how they were once the rulers. This book follows the suppression of the Irish nation and its culture by the western rulers and church. This is an eye opening hypothesis of how in fact Ireland was the most enlightened nation in ancient times in contradiction to modern texts. From the secrets of the bible and the relation to the Gaelic language, to the monotheism of the ancient Irish, the Iberi or Hebrews, this book is a real eyeopener.

    The struggle between Rome and Eire (Ireland); The Bible an Irish book altered and adapted by British-Roman transcribers; The Irish Pope-Kings formerly the rulers of Britain; Rome and the Pagans.

    The book begins with the origin of the Great Pyramid and continues to explain the reasons for its existence, its message and significance. The solution of the mystery of the pyramids of Egypt has been a problem which has not only puzzled mankind in general during the ages of the past, but which has, as well, mystified the minds of scholars and thinkers even to this our present day.

    The Great Pyramid of Giza was used as a Temple of Initiation for inculcating the mysteries of nature and the occult powers of the soul. The decree of the Church and the execution of its policy to close the Great Pyramid Temple and suppress its institution practically put an end to the development of enlightened minds in the Nile valley.

    Here is an audio of the book https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN_b55Zjn-A

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    The Kolbrin Bible:

    Millennia ago, Egyptian and Celtic authors recorded prophetic warnings for the future and their harbinger signs are now converging on 2012. These predictions are contained in The Kolbrin Bible, a secular wisdom text studied in the days of Jesus and lovingly preserved by generations of Celtic mystics in Great Britain. Nearly as big as the King James Bible, this 3600-year old text warns of an imminent, Armageddon-like conflict, but this is not the greatest threat. The authors of The Kolbrin Bible predict an end to life as we know it, by a celestial event. It will be the return of a massive space object, in a long elliptical orbit around our sun. Known to the Egyptians and Hebrews as the "Destroyer," the Celts later called it the "Frightener."

    Is this a genuine text or a hoax?

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    Downloadable PDF Link https://www.globalgreyebooks.com/ebo...in/kolbrin.pdf
    Yvonne Whiteman has done an excellent series of articles on the Kolbrin that was published on Graham Hancock's website. She has presented some very detailed research into corroborating names, place names and events that correlate with known history.
    https://grahamhancock.com/author/yvonne-whiteman/

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    The Irish Famine was a myth.

    We’re all aware of the holocaust in World War 2. But did you know there was even a more massive one in the 19 century when 60 per cent of an indigenous population were murdered over a 6 year period.

    Here again is another part of stolen history with the damming evidence that shows the Irish famine was a myth and has been the biggest genocide in all of history. Potato blight did spread from America to Europe in 1844, to England and then Ireland in 1845 but it didn’t cause famine anywhere. Ireland did not starve for potatoes; it starved for food.

    It was a well-orchestrated genocide that murdered 5.2 million people with a population at the time of only 8.5 million.

    The plan was successfully executed by relocating 50% of the British Army from its World Empire to set up 67 army barracks distributed throughout the country. 200+ mass graves were prepared using a clever strategy of building workhouses adjacent to the graves.

    Britain’s cover-up of its 1845-1850 holocaust in Ireland is the most successful big lie in all of history. The cover-up was accomplished by the same British terrorism and bribery that perpetrated the genocide. The funding for the genocide came from the Rothschilds bank to the British government.

    In previous centuries the Irish, under British rule, were non-persons, stripped of legal personhood. As murder requires personhood: the Irish were thus legally killable by any English person at will. Education was prohibited. Therefore the opportunity was planned to execute this massive program of genocide. The results yielded a massive land grab by the British gentry and the production of Ireland’s wealth of vast and varied food crops for export.

    After the evidence came out through a published book by Chris Fogarty, whom is a US citizen historian was framed by the FBI at the request of MI-5 (the other half of MI-6) In fact Chris Fogarty and his wife were both framed for murder. In this interview he gives voice and face to the book that the UK, Irish governments, Catholic Church, and US Government elements working for the British have tried to rigorously censor.

    https://tlio.org.uk/land/land-rights...es-of-ireland/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHmp8UPl3_c

    Website: www.irishholocaust.org

    Email: fogartyc@att.net

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    Fixed Links in the orginal post - the video was pulled on the previous links end

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    The Bock Saga

    The Bock Saga is the story of mankind as passed down through the generations of the Bock family, the Finnish family of Ior Bock whom, according to him, was the keeper of an ancient oral tradition that not only sheds new light on the heathen culture of Finland and its history, but on the shared origins of humanity itself.

    The "Root Language"

    Oral traditions have the unfortunate reputation of not being trustworthy, because when passed on they slightly change so that, over long periods of time, a story can change considerably.

    The Saga differs in that it lays on top of what is called the “sound system”, which is similar to a mathematical matrix that controls what is true and what is not in the Saga. This particular matrix is formed by the Root language, a language in which every sound has a meaning and a mark. All syllables, words and sentences are combinations of these building blocks of meaningful sounds.

    Source: https://www.carlborgen.com/what-is-the-bock-saga/

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    Tolkien was fascinated with ancient finnish and has ascribed the creation of his elvish to be heavily influenced by this language.

    In this interview through his mutterings he mentions ''7-8000 years ago'' and also the sentence ''Exedous from the north pole'' as the story of ''Middle earth'' or the setting for his world.

    Its also a wonderful interview for those interested in the man and to know more of about the LOTR books which are dripping with symbolisim and curious elements


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    Tolkien was fascinated with ancient finnish and has ascribed the creation of his elvish to be heavily influenced by this language.

    In this interview through his mutterings he mentions ''7-8000 years ago'' and also the sentence ''Exedous from the north pole'' as the story of ''Middle earth'' or the setting for his world.

    Its also a wonderful interview for those interested in the man and to know more of about the LOTR books which are dripping with symbolisim and curious elements.
    As with the Oera Linda Book, I've read into the Bock Saga and I find both to be fascinating. I don't believe at all that the peoples of the North were the primitives that mainstream history, as told to us by academics, would have us believe.

    During his time at Oxford Tolkein had the Bodleian Library on his doorstep, it houses millions of books and some of those are centuries old. What did he manage to find hidden away there? It's interesting that he translated the old poem Sir Orfeo from Old English; in that poem it mentions that Winchester, the old capital of England, was called Thrace. Now, London was called Troia Nova in ancient times (Latinised to Trinovantium), meaning New Troy. So... the two capitals of England were called Thrace and Troy. Make of that what you will!

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    Irish Wisdom Preserved in Bible & Pyramids (MacDari reading) 1923

    My reading of the Conor MacDari book from 1923. Relatively little is known about this author, but considering the content, we can safely assume why his works are completely side lined.
    How serendipitous - I was at the car boot sale this morning and found a like-minded seller, selling books about the scamdemic and other topics. We had a long chat which was lovely as I sometimes feel very isolated amongst the normies - and one of the books that I bought from him was this one by Conor MacDari. I look forward to reading it.

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