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    Default Re: Calm before the storm but where to go?

    but where to go?

    moving to another place will not solve anything (except offer a temporary relief from the chaos/dysfunction) nor will it shield you from what is eventually going to occur.. its when humanity understands that what affects one person also affects us all, will things truly change for the better~


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    Default Re: Calm before the storm but where to go?

    Wherever you are is the place you need to be at this point in time.
    Be
    Here
    Now

    Everything WILL be ok.
    Keeping this mindset is the basis of creating your own positive reality.

    Along with the above affirmations, changing one’s outlook/view on a situation can be greatly beneficial in helping you realise that perhaps there isn’t a problem that you perhaps first felt there to be. This is ofc hugely subjective.

    A good question to ask yourself, is “Is there a “problem” with the moment that I am experiencing right now?”

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    Default Re: Calm before the storm but where to go?

    The timing of events is crucial but not “all important”.

    We all seem to panic about the Time factor resting in uncertainty until we “know for sure”.
    From realistic, intelligent perspective even most big events are predicable and lingering in the seismic bubble of Earth long before they happen.
    It takes years, sometimes decades before social conflicts erupt to wars and by ignoring them and suppressing them they are not stopped.

    The same is true for subtle and gross environmental changes and the amount of trash and pollution satiating vast layers of atmosphere, waters, oceans and soil.
    People are perfectly aware of it but learn to close their eyes to it for decades, watching the situation worsening ,
    they say to each other “mind your business” which is what it means, business creates capital, draws resources and leaves the trash for the Day of Judgement 😅

    The masses of people participating in the mess who are mostly again, passive observers and involuntary participants will only say “we knew all the way along this - disaster/ was bound to happen. We have payed for our own mess, we have invited it, tolerated it, for the favour of being on par and in norm with the rest. This is our bad karma and we will pay for it all someday.”

    Now is it important “when” is any major cataclysm going to happen ? They never start in one day, one month or a year, these events are uninterrupted continuity affecting millions and billions of people moment by moment.

    It’s an individual decision and awareness of gravity of this human situation that called countless individuals out of the game in history , it’s happening now and will necessarily continue to the future ,
    due to climatic, geophysical shifts and environmental changes human migration is unavoidable.

    Waiting for something bigger to happen or for your neighbours to join along does not help to solve the problem, If “something big happens” everyone in densely populated areas struggle to get out the most. Your neighbours may have another time and plan of their own.

    These things are upon each individual to decide but earlier you decide, more space and options left for you to look around “out there”.

    It would be dangerous at this point, in our times to make this a “social movement”.

    People moving out big cities abruptly closing their bank accounts would probably freak any programmed government out but ultimately,

    this is one of our human rights and freedoms,

    the right to leave the room,
    the house,
    the school
    the factory
    the monastery
    the town
    the village

    the last human dwelling too
    without being stopped and questioned
    about identities and intents


    Even if it’s our last right, read last rite we are still entitled to it now or at the end of our Day whichever is more important.

    The right to breathe without being forcibly supervised, humiliated, talked down to and organized according to someone’s hundred years old systems of laws, like a slave, loyal servant of lost dynasty rather than a free man.

    You choose


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    Default Re: Calm before the storm but where to go?

    Thank you to all the posted viewpoints and opinions. There's a wealth of re-assurance here of hope and positiveness and realities to ponder.
    I posted the opening thread knowing that I cannot at this point in time move to another country or indeed to another continent.

    Firstly, I'd need to win a lottery or some long lost aunt left-us and decided to leave her entire estate to me to even contemplate upping sticks.
    Second, we have 4 grown- up children two currently studying and doing well in university so we wouldn't relocate somewhere remote unless they come with us or had easy access to do so.

    I have always been nomadic at heart, during my youth-hood - I'd be spending months at a time hitching-hiking or inter-railing all over Europe without fear or trepidation. Those days seemed so innocent now!

    Both my wife (she's Eastern European) and me thought that one day we'd retire back to her homeland -but that at the moment with the speculation of localised unrest that would feel like jumping from the fire-pan into the fire.

    We both like Scotland,plus, I have huge affinity for the country (apart from the bag-pipes) -maybe I had a previous life there who knows? Sadly, I feel the politics there are more insane there than here in England; plus again I'd need capital just move across the border.

    There's often talk and speculation from many awake here in the UK about enclosed like-minded communes set up away from the cities, but if the **** truly hit the fan a few military drones could easily scupper that plan.

    I do feel we're all in a transition of enlightenment maybe my place has been booked to stay put and enjoy or experience the ride whatever may come.

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    Default Re: Calm before the storm but where to go?

    Quote Posted by Ewan (here)
    Quote Posted by Billy (here)
    I moved from the city to the north west Highlands of Scotland 40 years ago. I live in a very remote area, my nearest neighbour is quarter of a mile away.
    I eventually managed to be totally off grid with my ecoflow solar generator as my only source of power.
    I have no intentions of moving anywhere else

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    What size (Watt rating) Solar Panels do you use, and how many panels in your array?

    I see they sell 110W, 160W, 220W and 400W panels.

    Anything to do with electricity, short of changing a fuse or wiring a plug, is a bit of a foggy area for me sadly.
    Hi Ewan.
    My device is the 600R pro. Which I have used daily for a year and a half now. It only has a 600 watts output, but that is sufficient for my needs, it charges all my battery operated devices, tablet, phone, radio, hoover, fan, gives me lights and I can watch endless videos ect.
    I pledged for it on Kickstarter when it was first being promoted. I paid £490 for it.
    I used to spend £30 a month on fuel for my petrol generator, so it has now paid for itself by not having to buy fuel.
    My R600 has 3.500 charging recycles. I get around 5 days of use from fully charged.

    I have the 110 watt solar panels, it can be charged from a mains, 12v car output, or my old petrol generator.
    Ecoflow do not supply the one I have now, but they have brought out many new ones this past few months. Mostly for homes. 3.5 KW output which can be doubled up.

    This is the one I have.

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    Have no fear, Be aware and live your lives journey from a compassionate caring nurturing heart to manifest a compassionate caring nurturing future. Billyji


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    Default Re: Calm before the storm but where to go?

    Quote Posted by mizo (here)
    I noticed an increase in the doom and gloom scenarios recently, with so many commentaries advising that if you live in the West nations then its time to relocate.

    Coming soon: Famine. Pestilence. Private property seizure. Lockdowns. Curfews. Food riots & civil wars- all happening within months. Jabbed will be dropping like flies. Aids epidemic and so on.

    I actually know of a young couple that've just upped sticks and moved to Mexico.

    But where to go?

    Advice given- mainly relocate to South America or parts of Asia or similarly Africa. Move and possibly disappear to countries that are poorer than the west nations.

    Here in the UK there's lots of talk about starting self sufficient communes moving to the countryside get off the grid so to speak; my thoughts are moving away from the cities is prolonging the agony, you cannot hide here!

    What do you believe? Do we Run and hide- relocate if we can to places to escape the oncoming totalitarian rule?

    Should we: stay and fight -would that be feasible? Or do we simply ignore the doomsday narratives -because it's not happening?

    Do we ask Bill to make some room for us all in Ecuador


    Appreciate your thoughts!


    Rumors should not be enough to cause you to move. It probably makes more sense to just keep an eye on things where you are and vote accordingly.

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    Default Re: Calm before the storm but where to go?

    Hi Mizo, my thinking about all this is that you can scape into a comune like group far away from the angry and starved mob from any big city , and must be at least on tank of gas away to begin with ,but: the big brother will going to demonize/criminalize you as a thread, and they have army, drones. and all kind of toys to get rid of you , so where to go? that"s the question, i have chosen a few spots (not going to reveal where) to go ,an tat's will be my plan. Advice :learn basic medicine and a second language at least

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    Default Re: Calm before the storm but where to go?

    No matter what happens I will still be right here

    Here now with you all as usual

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    Default Re: Calm before the storm but where to go?

    Yes, I see world news every day. It seems very dark now.
    If I were you, I will try to find my faith first, such as who God is? What is my life's purpose? What is my dream?
    Second, do my job well, and live every day as the last day.
    Believe in the Greatest Creator, believe in Karma, and try my/your best to live every day.

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    Default Re: Calm before the storm but where to go?

    From Gonzalo Lira, 5 minutes into a new 6 minute video. The logic is compelling, and I do think he may be correct.

    If you're European, now's the time to leave.


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    Default Re: Calm before the storm but where to go?

    Forewarned is forearmed, so let’s turn the tables on negativity and resolve issues soonest with diplomacy. Every country involved should prepare for independent living, agriculture, et al, and support those trying to do the same. Less reliance on globalistic economies, as charity should begin at home.
    Grow your own, and support those who are being left ‘high and dry’ by enabling them to grow their own via wells, and teaching them to manage their own infrastructure, as in the past.
    Not long ago, my folks grew their own food, that was normal, they bartered for ingredients, so we can exist without chocolate, sweeties and supermarkets.
    Love a chicken, get an egg!!! Etc etc….
    The love you withhold is the pain that you carry
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    "Chariots of the Globs" (apols to Fat Freddy's Cat)

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    Default Re: Calm before the storm but where to go?

    Quote Posted by avid (here)
    Forewarned is forearmed, so let’s turn the tables on negativity and resolve issues soonest with diplomacy. Every country involved should prepare for independent living, agriculture, et al, and support those trying to do the same. Less reliance on globalistic economies, as charity should begin at home.
    Grow your own, and support those who are being left ‘high and dry’ by enabling them to grow their own via wells, and teaching them to manage their own infrastructure, as in the past.
    Not long ago, my folks grew their own food, that was normal, they bartered for ingredients, so we can exist without chocolate, sweeties and supermarkets.
    Love a chicken, get an egg!!! Etc etc….
    I agree! It is not hard -> my parents have chickens, garden, orchards, olive groves.. they even had goats and pigs few years back and it was more than enough. They barely go to supermarkets and it is only for things they could probably do without.
    Maybe this situation is not entirely bad thing.
    This shortage will shift the paradigm (if it occurs), and we need change because the current attitude towards food that people in developed countries have is everything but healthy.
    Is every mind connected to form a peer to peer network that creates the illusion of a shared reality, making the appearance of material reality a simulation created through shared beliefs?

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