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    Default Re: Russophobia: why do so many people in the west hate and fear Russia?

    British people have no inkling of the hate politics used against them. Russians love their children too, we should remember that.

    A group named 'Lead By Donkeys' painted an upside down Ukraine flag on British roads for the benefit of the Russian embassy.

    They're smart though, they made signs for motorists to slow down as they vandalised their own infrastructure.

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    Default Re: Russophobia: why do so many people in the west hate and fear Russia?

    • In my view, the biggest systematic push of a tunnel vision "Russia Phobia" narratives started, when Hillary Clinton openly threatened to use Nuclear weapons if Russia "interferes" with the 2016 elections on multiple levels ... not mentioning that anything can be considered "interference" even TELLING THE TRUTH via RT dot com or RT on YouTube ... Hillary Clinton quote: "We Are Losing The Information War"
    • The ultra hypocrisy of The USA is extreme harrowing knowing how they manipulated almost all elections in all countries worldwide!
    • So when a different source other than western Mainstream Media sharing hard verifiable truths & facts that HAVE an impact on how people think & judge how they are "governed" >>> will be seen as an "election intervention" even if it is 100% the truth that is exposed!
    • Many hard hitting uncovered truths that have been shared on RT (Russia Today) were ALREADY shared on Alex Jones's infowars and countless other American based independent alternative media outlets ... Most, if not all were originally investigated & exposed by Americans not Russians >>> the moment RT used some of it Hillary claimed that is "proof" that Alternative Media is spreading "Russian Propaganda" WHICH IS A BLATANT LIE! ... It was RT using real independent research done by Americans and HELPS better understand how we all get scrwed on this (fcked up) planet done by lying psychopathic control freaks & dystopian technocrats.
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    Default Re: Russophobia: why do so many people in the west hate and fear Russia?

    (If this doesn't seem to play properly, I'll hunt for another version. )

    https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/21611

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    Default Re: Russophobia: why do so many people in the west hate and fear Russia?

    probably because they dropped communism. The US Democrats loved the Soviet Union, but they hate Russia.

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    Default Re: Russophobia: why do so many people in the west hate and fear Russia?

    Putting things in perspective, cutting through the propoganda:


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    Default Re: Russophobia: why do so many people in the west hate and fear Russia?

    ..and so the sickness in Poland continues

    Source: https://twitter.com/Dpol_un/status/1651188711403429890



    Russian tennis player Vitaliya Dyachenko – about how the Polish airline LOT did not let her on the flight, "because she is Russian"…
    I won't get to the tournament, I'm missing three flights, I won't be able to participate in the tournament. They told me, "We won't give you anything, goodbye." All this lasted about eight hours, I held on as best I could. And only in the morning, when I was not allowed to buy the next flights, I was already hysterical and just in shock.

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    Default Re: Russophobia: why do so many people in the west hate and fear Russia?

    The hatred for Russia began with the schism between who would be head of the Christian church, almost a 1000 years ago. Constantinople did not recognise Rome as the head of the Christian Church and visa versa. Russia aligned with the Patriarch of Constantinople and rejected Rome's authority.

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    Default Re: Russophobia: why do so many people in the west hate and fear Russia?

    When the successful US coup ("deep state" military-intelligence industrial complex+Rockefeller) happened in 1963, the co-conspirators of the coup were Russophobic, I think from a global economic hegemony position. The men who orchestrated the 1963 coup may be all dead now, but the torch of their americentric fascist corporatist ideology was passed forward, and the Russophobic position has never dissipated. Gang stuff. The originators of famous gangs, from Crips and Bloods to the Mafioso and Mafioso-like "political families" (Democrat and Republican corporations) to the Deep State gang - they all pass forward their ideologies.

    The MIC is the core of the USA, Inc.'s economy. Russia provides a boogeyman that the US fearmongers use to justify vast and eternally increasing military (MIC) spending. Even the mouthiest pseudo-Russophobic* assholes - like Hillary Clinton and Lindsay Graham - don't really want a war with Russia (or China for that matter) but rather to use as a psychological weapon to assure the MICs continued growth as the USA's major capitalist industry sector.


    *(I say "pseudo-" because these neocon/neolibs don't actually fear Russia.)


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    Default Re: Russophobia: why do so many people in the west hate and fear Russia?

    Quote Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
    When the successful US coup ("deep state" military-intelligence industrial complex+Rockefeller) happened in 1963, the co-conspirators of the coup were Russophobic, I think from a global economic hegemony position.


    You are saying that LBJ was "installed?"

    I am not sure that U. S. relations with the U. S. S. R. faltered until the Cold War. The old Russia hatred is British. Straight from the Bible.

    However, Truman, and Eisenhower, etc., also hated China. They did not start this, either. American military men started screaming "China threat!" when they first laid eyes on them in the 1850s.


    Mostly I think you are correct--these people are addicted to Cold War. They cannot pass a day of their lives without hate and fear, thinking it is religion. This only shows how much closer they are to apes.

    Is that not true? Is there not a clique who swans about basking in their own superiority, while putting others down?

    And they are naive enough to think that saying something about Jesus will keep them out of hell?

    Hahahahaha.

    Unfortunately, it's serious, and there are more of them than there are of me. I clenched my teeth and went over some of the recent Senate Resolutions, as in how many times Ukraine has popped up in all this wonderful bravado, and it was absolutely disgusting. It is not physically possible for those apes to represent me in their Rotunda. They are damaged beyond repair. This is why I have a hugely pessimistic view about "fixing the country". I don't think it can be done. Nothing of value to work with.

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    Default Re: Russophobia: why do so many people in the west hate and fear Russia?

    This might better belong on the WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia thread, but what we see here is so psychopathic that I posted it here instead.

    I doubt if she will live long.

    https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/64818


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    Default Re: Russophobia: why do so many people in the west hate and fear Russia?

    I wanted to share with you what kind of emails we get at work. I work in a multinational company that has its own sister company in Russia, with which we do business most normally all this time.

    Absolutely deranged ->

    Is every mind connected to form a peer to peer network that creates the illusion of a shared reality, making the appearance of material reality a simulation created through shared beliefs?

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    Default Re: Russophobia: why do so many people in the west hate and fear Russia?

    Quote Posted by Isserley (here)
    I wanted to share with you what kind of emails we get at work. I work in a multinational company that has its own sister company in Russia, with which we do business most normally all this time.

    Absolutely deranged ->

    Thanks! And yes, that's pretty deranged. (But after a moment's thought, maybe not that surprising considering the western Russophobic propaganda that is just everywhere.)

    Clearly this is a standard email that's been posted somewhere urging people to copy it and send it to names of companies on a list that's been provided for them. (Or it might even have been AI-generated.) One possible reply might be:

    ~~~
    "Thank you! But please rewrite and send this again with your own unique and personal words and thoughts, not those of someone else that have been provided for you. The truth is that what you did was maybe a little lazy.

    If we know who you are and what you truly think (and exactly why, and on what information you base your opinions), then an interesting and valuable conversation might be possible. You are quite wrong in what you seem to believe.

    And, do please note, this reply was written by a real human being who has responded very personally to your email. "

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    Default Re: Russophobia: why do so many people in the west hate and fear Russia?

    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    [LIST]

    (...)

    Many hard hitting uncovered truths that has been shared on RT (Russia Today) was ALREADY shared on Alex Jones's infowars and countless other American based independent alternative media outlets ... Most, if not all were originally investigated & exposed by Americans not Russians >>> the moment RT used some of it Hillary claimed that is "proof" that Alternative Media is spreading "Russian Propaganda" WHICH IS A BLATANT LIE!
    Absolutely John.

    As for manipulation of elections: you probably do not know that, but electronic voting was only gradually introduced in Belgium. I started to abstain from and later to forego voting when in Brussels (one of the three "regions” in Belgium) voting became electronic. Right from that moment onwards I “knew” that it was subject to manipulation and was being manipulated.

    The ultimate goal of it was to make perennial the Siamese-twin predicament of cultures in Belgium. Divide and rule. The goals of Britain when they paid for the split in the reunited (1815-1830) Seventeen provinces after Napoleon’s defeat, leading to the Netherlands and Belgium (whereas historically the Netherlands are Belgium and Belgium is the Netherlands: two names for the same civilisation) *.

    And, when Britain had gotten its comeuppance, the goal of the United States when the “Atlanticists” (“Atlantisten”) among the Belgian politicians pushed for a “federalised” Belgium (the Siamese twins), guaranteeing the eternal presence of NATO headquarters. (And capital of a US-vassal Europe, not the proud unified Europe sold to the Europeans.)

    And, dear Brexit lovers among the members, because of the same American "divide and rule” policy, Brexit was allowed to split Europe into two "vassal” groups: the United Kingdom (England, Scotland, Wales and Ulster) and continental remainder Europe.

    Lo and behold: a further splitting is in the works: “Old, Western” Europe and “Western Slavonic” Europe.

    Manipulated electronic voting being always involved and always quite helpful.

    The ultimate goals of ruling and dividing the vassals is ultimately dividing and ruling the “Enemy” or, in newspeak, “Adversary”. For the UK it used to be the reconstituted Seventeen Provinces in 1815-1830, then at the beginning of the 20th Century Germany, and, 20 years later, Germany again (which had been vassalised to split the Soviet Union, but that did not work out well). And now, after a lot of thinking, the key has been found how to disintegrate Russia.


    * You, as a Limburger, may appreciate this reading of history, as Limburg has maybe suffered most, being cut in two by the 1830 catastrophe.
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    Default Re: Russophobia: why do so many people in the west hate and fear Russia?

    I felt I had to post this, didn't really know where, and thought that maybe this was the best thread.

    How can anyone hate (and want to destroy) these people, their values, and their culture?

    The video, less than 2 minutes long, shows a Russian High School Graduation dance. Recommended,

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    Default Re: Russophobia: why do so many people in the west hate and fear Russia?

    Sorry, off topic note of information:

    @Michel

    "Brexit was allowed to split Europe into two "vassal” groups: the United Kingdom (England, Scotland, Wales and Ulster) and continental remainder Europe."

    This did not happen. Brexit was 'in name only' - which is why it was delayed by two extra years to devise. Except at passport control, Brexit has made no discernable difference to life - literally none at all.

    The main motive for the (overwhelming majority) pro-Brexit sentiment and vote in *England* was open-ended, massive and chronic, deliberately encouraged and defended mass immigration (plus the official subsidizing and privileging of recent immigrants over natives, in all areas of life) - both of which have increased even further since pseudo-Brexit.

    *Anyone* who opposes - or even notices - this long-term process of deliberate national destruction, is regarded (by the ruling, wealthy. powerful, influential classes) as a vile and dangerous person, and usually excluded from their livelihood (if possible).

    But Brexit was bound to fail so long as its motives were negative/ defensive, rather than positive constructive; and for positive/ constructive there would need to be a spiritual and religious awakening. Back in 2016, after the Brexit vote, I and a couple of friends published a blog Albion Awakening, to analyze and promote such an outcome - but it was wound-up when it became evident that events were going the opposite direction.

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    Default Re: Russophobia: why do so many people in the west hate and fear Russia?

    Quote Posted by Isserley (here)
    I wanted to share with you what kind of emails we get at work. I work in a multinational company that has its own sister company in Russia, with which we do business most normally all this time.

    Absolutely deranged ->
    ...
    Makes me feel like I'm 6 years old again in the playground.

    At my previous workplace they banned the use of products created and published by a company called JetBrains, notably including a coding tool called ReSharper, because of its Russian roots and suspicions about Russia stealing secrets. It's a game-changing tool, well worth the money for a C# programmer in my strong opinion.

    The look on people's faces when they banned it. As a contractor I didn't quibble because you pay contractors not to quibble, and then get rid of them at your convenience with zero drama and all smiles. And while I didn't use that tool at that company anyway, I had previously sent JetBrains fan-mail and compliments because 1) I wanted to extend my free trial duration of ReSharper, and 2) because I'm a BIG fan of ReSharper.

    Seeing that tool banned because of Russian links brought the insanity home. I took it as likely foreshadowing of more of the same(?)

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    Default Re: Russophobia: why do so many people in the west hate and fear Russia?

    A small thing, but it's really quite common now.

    The text:

    Yesterday, the Ukrainian Ministry of Sport lifted the ban on participation of its athletes in competitions where Russians compete, and today Ukrainian sabre fencer Olga Kharlan took to the track against Russian Anna Smirnova at the World Fencing Championships.

    The Ukrainian won the bout. After the bout, the Russian approached her opponent to shake her hand, but in response Harlan put her sabre forward and left the track.

    According to the rules, fencers must shake hands after the bout, otherwise they can be penalised, up to and including disqualification. Whether any sanctions will be taken against Harlan is still unclear.

    Update:

    The International Fencing Federation decided to exclude Ukrainian sabre fencer Olga Kharlan from the World Championships after she refused to shake hands with Russian Anna Smirnova.

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    Default Re: Russophobia: why do so many people in the west hate and fear Russia?

    “The International Fencing Federation decided to exclude Ukrainian sabre fencer Olga Kharlan from the World Championships after she refused to shake hands with Russian Anna Smirnova.”


    Good! If you can’t shake your opponents hand after a sporting event then you don’t understand competitive sports and don’t deserve to participate, IMHO.

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    Quote Posted by kudzy (here)
    If you can’t shake your opponents hand after a sporting event then you don’t understand competitive sports and don’t deserve to participate, IMHO.
    In contrast! (I was fascinated to read this.)

    The TG post below is in Russian, but here's the translation:

    The Ministry of Sports of the Russian Federation will invite athletes from Ukraine to the World Friendship Games and ensure the safety of their stay in the country. The games will be held from 15—29 September 2024 in Moscow and Yekaterinburg. Of the Olympic sports, basketball, boxing, athletics, swimming, rhythmic gymnastics and others will be presented.
    — Sports Minister Oleg Matytsin

    https://t.me/SolovievLive/198843


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