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    Exclamation Live Congressional UFO-UAP Hearing May 17th 2022

    • Live Congressional UFO-UAP Hearing May 17th 2022:
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    • Watch: Congressional Hearing on UFOs - Live!

    Tune in at 7:00am PT / 10:00am ET on Tues. May 17 when the US House of Representatives hold a hearing on unidentified aerial phenomena.
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    Exclamation Re: Live Congressional UFO-UAP Hearing May 17th 2022

    • Live: Congress holds UFO hearing | NewsNation


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    • LIVE: Congress Holds Hearing on UFOs:

    • LIVE: House Intelligence subcommittee holds open hearing on UFOs:



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    Lightbulb Re: Live Congressional UFO-UAP Hearing May 17th 2022

    After researching UFOs/UAPs for 32 years and organizing several UFO/UAPs conferences plus giving over 80 UFO lectures in 5 countries.
    • I hope I have the time to make as soon as possible my own special (audio only) "UFO Hearing 2022 review" (maybe later creating video production) ...
    My personal perspectives & insights concerning HOW the questions are/were framed and how they are answered.

    What the "missed opportunities" were and what genuine new surprises there are, if any.

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    Default Re: Live Congressional UFO-UAP Hearing May 17th 2022

    IMO, it will be the usual lies that we've come to expect from the fake government. I listened for a while this morning and it was as expected. A nothing burger.

    For once, it would be nice if they told the truth and confessed that they have been working with Grays and Reptilians in secret locations and in DUMBs since the 1950s and they made a very big mistake(?) by making a deal with the Grays to abduct humans in exchange for their technology. I guarantee that the last thing you will never hear from the fake government is the truth.

    I think this is all prep work for a possible alien invasion false flag at some point.

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    Default Re: Live Congressional UFO-UAP Hearing May 17th 2022

    I know this is off-topic, but could not resist

    Well if these hearings don't seriously address the possibility these UAP's are secret space force tech (of some entity, not necessarily US), I will consider them a distraction from other serious matters.

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    Lightbulb Re: Live Congressional UFO-UAP Hearing May 17th 2022

    Quote Posted by mountain_jim (here)
    I know this is off-topic, but could not resist

    Overwhelmingly vast majority of "drones" are very LOUD and have a limited range!


    Unlike so many real UFOs/UAPs producing very low frequencies (humming sounds) or making no sound at all ...
    • I could not resist bringing that up either.
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    Default Re: Live Congressional UFO-UAP Hearing May 17th 2022

    Very interesting hearing. Congressman Gallagher brought up the Wilson memo and the the Malmstrom AFB UFO/Missile Incident (Robert Salas). “They” are definitely taking the next step in narrative prep.

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    Default Re: Live Congressional UFO-UAP Hearing May 17th 2022

    The hearing has demonstrated again how amazing how little they knew! After so much evidence and research! They want to start from scratch, don't they? If Mr Brady and Mr. Moultrie are not well informed about major cases, who is? Who really controls the research?

    If much of what Luis Elizondo said and what abduction research and Ufology has is credible and solid, then Mr. Brady and Mr. Moultrie (who appear to be sincere) do not know much. Then who does? Who has operational control over retro engineering, human-non human communication research, UAP and biological material, MILABS, previous UFO research programs.

    Civilian research and communication become even more important. Not just relying on or placing our bets on political, military, or even large academic institutions.

    It therefore confirms every pre-hearing interview that The Pentagon never sends anyone up to Capital Hill who might slip and tell the truth. Therefore this is not a surprise.

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    Lightbulb Re: Live Congressional UFO-UAP Hearing May 17th 2022

    • Dr. Richard Haines introduced the term "UAP" long before it became a hype ... studying 3000+ UFO-reports coming solely from Pilots!
    Interview with NARCAP founder Dr. Richard Haines:

    This is the definition of “Unidentified Aerial Phenomena, or UAP” as offered by a NARCAP founding member and former NARCAP Science Chief Dr. Richard Haines in 1980 and applied by NARCAP.org since 1999:
    ““An Unidentified Aerial Phenomena, UAP, is the visual stimulus that provokes a sighting report of an object or light seen in the sky, the appearance and/or flight dynamics of which do not suggest a logical, conventional flying object and which remains unidentified after close scrutiny of all available evidence by persons who are technically capable of making both a technical identification as well as a common sense identification, if one is possible.” (Haines, PP 13-22, 1980)
    When NARCAP was founded in 1999 we adopted the term “Unidentified Aerial Phenomena or UAP” because we felt that it was a far more accurate term for the many profiles of unidentified aerial phenomena, some of which were described as lights rather than objects, and had not been co-opted by the “UFO community” as a term for “alien space ships” in the way the term “UFO” has been. Many of our international partners had already adopted the term in some form or variation. A simple review of the internet archives will show that at the time NARCAP was founded the term “UAP” was not in use. Once NARCAP began publishing papers and promoting “UAP” as an objective term the UFO community in general picked it up and the term “UAP” has been in use ever since. Recently, the United States Navy adopted the term.

    Over the years since we have encountered some steady misunderstandings regarding the terms “Unidentified Aerial Phenomena” or UAP and “Unidentified Flying Object” or UFO. One of the most common misunderstandings is that either term is in reference to something that could not be identified therefore it could be anything. This is exactly not correct. Both terms are intended to convey that in cases where there is enough information that an identification can be made by those most qualified to do so and yet an identification can not be made the phenomenon responsible can be considered “unidentified”. It is the best documented cases of unidentified aerial phenomena that remain in the dataset if one adheres to this definition and scores cases correctly.

    So when correctly applying the term “UAP” one is saying that the incident/phenomenon in question has been documented very well and that data was subjected to the most qualified technical scrutiny and that the conclusion of that analysis is that the incident/phenomenon can not be identified. When NARCAP uses these terms in a published report that is exactly the meaning and application of the terms “UAP” and “UFO” .


    • Dr. Richard F. Haines (NASA) - 3000+ Pilot Sightings
    “UFOs Are Not Aggressive,” Says Senior Former NASA Scientist

    In an interview on unidentified aerial phenomena, Dr. Richard F. Haines explains that several features can be distinguished when observing UFO phenomena. One is that when UFOs approach our planes, they show curiosity and interest, not a desire to attack. UFOs and aliens are usually feared. It comes from pop culture and films. But does this evidence of the UFO phenomenon indicate what we should be afraid of? Former NASA Senior Scientist Dr. Richard F. Haines spoke about the UFO phenomenon, focusing on the observations of more than 3,000+ pilots. He spoke about the phenomenon and how these objects, which are constantly observed, behave.

    These objects were spotted and tracked on radar, making maneuvers beyond the power of any known artificial mechanism, while moving at unreachable speeds. Another common theme is that these objects approach human airplanes and behave similarly to curiosity, Dr. Haynes explains.

    For example, in the case of military aircraft, pilots observe how critical electronic capabilities, such as the ability to launch missiles, are disabled when they are near these objects. One notable example comes from the Iranian encounter of fighters with UFOs in 1976, when the weapons systems of several jet aircraft went out of order. Dr. Haynes explains that in 50 percent of the cases he has encountered, these objects are approaching our planes, and not vice versa. Haynes goes on to say that UFOs appear to be making evasive maneuvers to avoid our planes so as not to create a potential collision. This portion of the interview reminds the following quote from General Nathan Twining in 1947. “The phenomenon reported is something real, not a vision or fiction … Reported performance characteristics such as extreme climb rates, maneuverability, and actions to be considered as avoidance upon detection or contact with friendly aircraft and radars, suggest that some of the objects are controlled manually, automatically or remotely. ” Dr. Haines is currently Chief Scientist for NARCAP, an organization that has been investigating, documenting and analyzing aviation security and UFO sightings and incidents since 1999.

    Dr. Haines has recorded over 3,000 pilot reports, many of which he has personally investigated.

    He has also investigated numerous aviation accidents and incidents for the U.S. Federal Aviation Authority and attorneys.

    He serves on the Safety and the Human Factors Committees of the Aerospace Medical Association and is a member of the International Society of Air Safety Investigators.
    Dr. Haines has written Three Scientific (UAP) Books on UFO topics and over 50 Scientific and Technical Articles as well as 20 serious articles on unidentified aerial phenomena.

    Brief Biography:

    Richard F. Haines was born and raised in Seattle, Washington, and attended the University of Washing ton (College of Engineering) and Pacific Lutheran College (Tacoma) where he received the B.A. degree in 1960. He was awarded the M.A. and Ph.D. from Michigan State University (East Lansing) in 1962 and 1964, respectively, in the field of Experimental Psychology.

    After working at NASA-Ames from 1967 - 1986 as a research scientist in numerous astronautical (Gemini, Apollo, Skylab, Space Station) and aeronautical (e.g., Mgr. of the Joint FAA/NASA Head-up Display Program, landing simulation research) projects, he was appointed Chief of the Space Human Factors Office at NASA-Ames (1986-1988) where he directed research and development efforts of the AX-5 "hard" EVA space suit, habitability design research for Space Station Freedom, and spacecraft window design.

    He retired from government service in 1988 and taught at San Jose State University as an Associate Professor of Psychology while working part time as a scientist in the Research Institute for Advanced Computer Science. From 1990-1991 he has provided consulting services to NASA in various laboratory activities related to supersonic wind tunnel automation redesign and Space Station Freedom - to - ground bandwidth image transmission reduction.

    His interest in UFO phenomena spans over 20 years with special interests in sightings by pilots, analysis of photographic evidence, and data on Close Encounters of the Fourth Kind. He claims that, "these three areas contain the type of data that will bring us to a successful discovery of the core nature of the phenomena.

    Samples of published works:

    Review Of Selected Sightings From Aircraft From 1973 - 1978 - Dr. Richard Haines (1979)
    Review of Selected Aerial Phenomenon Sightings From Aircraft From 1942 - 1952 - Haines (1983)
    Fifty-Six Aircraft Pilot Sightings Involving E-M Effects - Richard F. Haines (1992)
    UFO Phenomena and the Behavioral Scientist (Editor)
    Observing UFOs
    Melbourne Episode - Case Study of a Missing Pilot
    Advanced Aerial Devices Reported During the Korean War
    Richard F. Haines Scientific Ufology Papers Collection

    Scope and Contents

    The Richard F. Haines Ufology papers includes documents that cover the period between the 1970s and 2010s. It includes personal and professional correspondence, administrative documents of NARCAP and drafts of its research projects, Haines' own drafts and printouts for conference presentations. It also contains a large set of UFO photos with notes and photo analysis, and well as audio tapes with interviews of UFO witnesses. The audio cassettes have been digitized and once completed, will be filed on the Woodson Research Center's nearline server, and accessible by request. The recordings will also be transcribed.
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    Default Re: Live Congressional UFO-UAP Hearing May 17th 2022

    • ABC coverage of UAP Hearings - May 17, 2022:


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    • UFO hearing: Number of "Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon" sightings rising, US says

    • Video Of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Presented During House Intelligence Hearing

    • Watch Navy Explain Newly Released Video of UFOs to Congress:
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    Default Re: Live Congressional UFO-UAP Hearing May 17th 2022

    Christopher Mellon expected more out of it.

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    “That was a frustrating hearing as well as a reminder both of how far we’ve come and how far we still have to go.”

    On one hand Mellon has a very limited, non-history association with the topic. Never set your expectations too high to avoid disappointment. On the other hand, I expected a lack of substance and that is what we observed.

    However, I’m not despondent with all this session which really proved is that we now know that - THEY DO KNOW - Bray is a liar and Moultrie came off sensible if not totally reliable. implying he's wearing hand-cuffs and has been given his marching orders - it's only the overture. They BOTH know the origins are off-world.

    If they admitted it ALL today - war in the Ukraine, Putin, the pandemic, abortion issues, the Supreme Court, bad health care, female genital mutilation, radicalism, domestic terrorism, Jan 6th Hearings in June etc. etc. would be on the news - yes - but AFTER the weather.

    The US cannot afford to add to the chaos - at least not yet - right now.

    The pressure to hold this hearing was/is enormous. I’m hopeful - the panel questioners were fully prepared with the right questions - some missed the mark but Schiff, Gallagher and Welch were spot on yet too polite. This is disappointing but never-the-less a required first huge step.

    Don't also forget - this is NOT the USGOV's issue - it is THE PEOPLE'S ISSUE - WE OWN IT - NOT THEM.

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    Default Re: Live Congressional UFO-UAP Hearing May 17th 2022

    If neither Moultrie nor Brady know or have authority, who are those that really control the most advanced information? And, is it a legal arrangement?

    The US was in a cold war before, and representatives always said the same thing or, at any rate, tried to minimize the issue. But they have almost always said the same thing. Since the 1950s: "we don't know what they are." However, to me, neither Brady nor Moultrie came across as knowing that they are ET or being given their marching orders not to admit this. They came across as new initiates on the block.

    Rather, it looks as though the ones that truly know and control the advanced research are using these two mostly uninformed high-level officials to reestablish the old narrative:

    That phenomenon is real and that they don't know what it is. Like trying to start (again) from square one. If this is so, the legality of who actually knows and why not even Moultrie nor Brady are in the loop is a big issue.

    We may not accept or understand their slow pace but we have no control over it at a US governmental level. As I said - this is our issue - it belongs to us and we are the ones responsible for disclosure and awareness.

    The US Gov’t does not need another threat scenario or more chaos - that is one of the reasons why they drag their feet. Unfortunately - they know the song but we have the lyrics…

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    Default Re: Live Congressional UFO-UAP Hearing May 17th 2022

    Richard Dolan's commentary:

    The UAP Congressional Hearings: What You Need to Know


    What you need to know about Rich Dolan's summary:

      "They're definitely not grappling with this subject in a way that I consider productive, useful and honest." (49:30)
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    Default Re: Live Congressional UFO-UAP Hearing May 17th 2022

    "NEED TO KNOW"

    BRYCE ZABEL & ROSS COULTHARD with

    LUE ELIZONDO gives his take (& he's on fire)

    "Wilson / Davis, Notes" are Real ...

    Therefore we have Crash Retrievals & Alien Bodies !


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    Default Re: Live Congressional UFO-UAP Hearing May 17th 2022

    When/if Trump becomes president is when the "good et vs bad et" card could be played. He already knows - at least to some degree- that ET's are a player in things. He's been groomed for this in my opinion. A stooge like the rest of them. We'll see.
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    • Pentagon Confirms UFOs are Real:
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    Default Re: Live Congressional UFO-UAP Hearing May 17th 2022

    An in-depth discussion about what's really going on behind the scenes with this so-called "disclosure" here:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1498679
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