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    Default Northern and southern declination expression, a theory

    I am beginning to see the equator or 0 degree declination in the sky, as the dividing line between conscious/objective, and subconscious/subjective..right and left brain perhaps..
    ...so from northern hemisphere perspective N declination planets/stars would manifest more in the objective realm, S declination in the subjective, similar to above the horizon and below the horizon .
    ..the reverse would be true looking from southern hemisphere...S dec objective N dec subjective
    planets and stars on the equator achieve a balance of the 2 realms
    planets in S declination that are aligned with stars in north declination, have a channel to manifest a subconscious energy through that northern star
    ...thats the theory anyway, some research needed...always something new to explore
    ..for example summer solstice, and midday represents the height of solar expression/wakefulness, winter solstice and midnight the depth of reflection/introspection
    ..equinox the balance/changeover from one to the other🙂

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    That's a very interesting way of looking at the heavens. It reminds me a little of the concept of: 'As above, so below, As within, so without', also the checkerboard on the Masonic tracing boards, where I think the black is the sub conscious and the white the conscious mind.

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    Brilliant, ian33. It would amount to all macrocosmic celestial positions having their conscious and unconscious, or exoterical and esoterical valuations, depending on the perspective — which resonates excellently with the chakra/planetary conception of the microcosm that states exactly that. Equinoxes and sunrise/sunset reflecting the central Sushumna fire. Astrosophy and metaphysical anthropology/psychology/epistemology being one and the same.

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    ..depending on our latitude, the stars that never set(looked upon as the immortal gods by the ancients)would have a special place, being a permanent link to the conscious-consciousness-heavens
    ..the stars that never rise, the deep unconscious, literally the underworld(under the world)
    planets aligned with these circumpolar stars would have special status in the chart
    so counting the stars that rise and set we have 3 distinctions....Asgard, Midgard and Niflhel in the old norse system
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    ..depending on our latitude, the stars that never set(looked upon as the immortal gods by the ancients)would have a special place, being a permanent link to the conscious-consciousness-heavens
    ..the stars that never rise, the deep unconscious, literally the underworld(under the world)
    planets aligned with these circumpolar stars would have special status in the chart
    so counting the stars that rise and set we have 3 distinctions....Asgard, Midgard and Niflhel in the old norse system
    This had me looking up stars that never set:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circum...Constellations

    Quote A circumpolar constellation is a constellation (group of stars) that never sets below the horizon, as viewed from a location on Earth.[5] As viewed from the North Pole, all fully visible constellations north of the celestial equator are circumpolar, and likewise for constellations south of the celestial equator as viewed from the South Pole. As viewed from the Equator, there are no circumpolar constellations. As viewed from mid-northern latitudes (40–50° N), circumpolar constellations may include Ursa Major, Ursa Minor, Draco, Cepheus, Cassiopeia, and the less-known Camelopardalis.[6]
    I noticed Draco, which has cropped up frequently in your research I think?

    Also never heard of the giraffe before.

    Finally, if the poles shift, then different constellations become set and hidden? Different influences come to the fore on the conscious and sub conscious mind? Could this happen at each change of age?

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    ..depending on our latitude, the stars that never set(looked upon as the immortal gods by the ancients)would have a special place, being a permanent link to the conscious-consciousness-heavens
    ..the stars that never rise, the deep unconscious, literally the underworld(under the world)
    planets aligned with these circumpolar stars would have special status in the chart
    so counting the stars that rise and set we have 3 distinctions....Asgard, Midgard and Niflhel in the old norse system
    This had me looking up stars that never set:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circum...Constellations
    Quote A circumpolar constellation is a constellation (group of stars) that never sets below the horizon, as viewed from a location on Earth.[5] As viewed from the North Pole, all fully visible constellations north of the celestial equator are circumpolar, and likewise for constellations south of the celestial equator as viewed from the South Pole. As viewed from the Equator, there are no circumpolar constellations. As viewed from mid-northern latitudes (40–50° N), circumpolar constellations may include Ursa Major, Ursa Minor, Draco, Cepheus, Cassiopeia, and the less-known Camelopardalis.[6]
    I noticed Draco, which has cropped up frequently in your research I think?

    Also never heard of the giraffe before.

    Finally, if the poles shift, then different constellations become set and hidden? Different influences come to the fore on the conscious and sub conscious mind? Could this happen at each change of age?
    ...the poles shifting seem unlikely..i believe more likely a period of relatively fast crustal displacement changing orientation and latitudes. plus longitude positions on earth ...but celestial longitude(right ascendant and celestial latitude of stars declinations would of course remain the same...the earths axis is constantly changing fractionally in relation to the sun eg the tropical zone is currently shrinking(extant of suns apparent motion north and south)
    ..all can be seen playing with stellarium, the best toy i ever had
    ,,,https://www.mariobuildreps.com/
    ..the whole sky is slowly changing anyway due to wobble effect or precession as its called
    ..virgo is moving into south declination, pisces now completly north, cetus following and aquarius..
    ...some stars are what i call maverick stars, wandering independently of constellation..
    SIRIUS lay between gemini and cancer 100,000 BC
    was alpha star of the LITTLE DOG, 70,000 bc
    alpha star of the UNICORN 50,000 BC
    and joined the GREAT DOG 15,000 BC
    it will go on to join COLUMBA eventually
    all is change
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