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    Default Is James Gilliland a Cosmic Conman?

    Steve Cambian looks into ethics and practices of James Gilliland of the ECETI ranch and asks if he is a "Cosmic Conman" in the tradition of Corey Goode, David Wilcock, etc. Some of the questionable issues around Gilliland:
    • When skywatches occur, he seems especially pre occupied with knowing the exact time and then usually knows when "they" will appear. This may be because he is consulting schedules for satellite appearances or that he has people who are flashing lights from a mountain in the distance (which Gilliland is saying is "a portal opening")

    • He is incredibly hostile to any one who questions what they are seeing is a bona fide paranormal event.

    • Cliff High stated he was going to the Gilliland ranch with an open but skeptical mind. Gilliland sent him a letter stating that he was not welcome on the ranch.

    • Gilliland has had three questionable Go Fund Me's, raising $38,000.

    • Claims to be a Non profit organization, but he is always raising money. Sometimes charges big fees for some events, e.g. $400 for a yoga workshop.

    • Often hitting on the women who visit the ranch. Sometimes this happens under the guise of "spiritual healing."


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    Default Re: Is James Gilliland a Cosmic Conman?

    I visited ECETI ranch in around 2011. It was a great experience. I met some very interesting people. One visitor Gary Evans had been to Egypt and experienced hieroglyphs becoming Three dimensional and also being able to understand the meaning from a hyperreal perception. It seems he discovered that the multidimensional thinking of that people was encoded in the glyphs and could be tapped?

    He was into toning and demonstrated that toning calls in orbs. They can be photographed so we did a before photography and after and they had greatly increased after toning.

    I saw a craft through night vision that had a large visible energy field and probably was the space station according to Gio whom I met there. The Mountain is unreally beautiful seen from the ranch. IMO ECETI is a gathering spot and lots of people have lots of experiences. Mine were all good.
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    Default Re: Is James Gilliland a Cosmic Conman?

    I found his accounts of bigfoot being on that property to be believable. He said they would come down and eat off the fruit trees. He's been running ECETI for 36 years and there must be a level of truth.

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    Quote Gilliland's Ranch, also known as Gilliland Ranch,[1] Gilliland's ECETI Ranch, and Sattva Sanctuary,[2][3] is an area of land in Trout Lake, at the base of Mount Adams, in Southwest Washington.[4] The property belongs to James Gilliland, who established Enlightened Contact with ExtraTerrestrial Intelligence (ECETI) and the Self-Mastery Earth Institute in 1986, and has hosted unidentified flying object (UFO) sighting events since 2003.[1] Gilliland reports frequent UFO sightings and "unexplained light shows" on site.[2][3]
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    Default Re: Is James Gilliland a Cosmic Conman?

    Hmmmm... My daughter (Christy) went there with a girlfriend. She's quite attractive. James wouldn't leave her alone and kept hitting on her. I wasn't there. Christy told me about this. She was pretty disgusted and warned me to stay away from that creep.

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    Default Re: Is James Gilliland a Cosmic Conman?

    Quote Often hitting on the women who visit the ranch. Sometimes this happens under the guise of "spiritual healing."
    There ya go.

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    Default Re: Is James Gilliland a Cosmic Conman?

    Maybe 10-15 years ago I went to the ranch twice. Very mixed feelings. There was a core group at the time which sort of ran things in a very loose way. Not good vibes from those folks.

    At the time the place was run down and I do not see how James was making any money from this venture so that doesn't seem to be the motivation. It was not a well organized operation, and when I was there were plenty of visitors. He charged for camping spots and space a few small buildings you could rent to sleep in. He had to charge something for everything to pay the bills so that is very understandable and prudent.

    In a word, it was a messy place.

    And with respect to the "sightings" I didn't see anything which was at all conclusive even though he or others claimed them to be.

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    Default Re: Is James Gilliland a Cosmic Conman?

    Visiting the ECETI ranch year 2000:

    I was visiting a friend on the Washington/Oregon border at the time. I was also on my way to a SETI conference in San Jose, Calif. Because I was nearby geographically, I decided to meet James Gilliland at his ranch with two close friends with wide sensory systems, this was about 22 years ago.

    James Gilliland 22 years ago:

    He kindly showed me his photos and video footage at the time taken over his ranch. He also explained to me his experiential side of his life which provides a measure of his previous background. I was uncomfortable at the time because I felt he had opened himself up in previous years to not only other entities, resulting in a type of stigmata marks on his body which he had shown me as a result of these processes previously taken place. I felt he may have been messed up with other entities/intelligences not discriminating of who he is engaging with. I sensed he unwittingly may have the possibility of US intelligence monitoring his activities at the time. Although he was pleasant and generous with his time we all felt he was gullible and to open without discrimination for anything that may unfold for him. My close friends and I concluded that we were not comfortable being there for any length of time.

    Activity at the ECETI ranch near Trout lake/Mount Adams is prone to seismic activity: I had seen seismic maps that showed this correlation.

    I was also aware from previous research in Europe, in particular, Hessdalen in Norway, that the phenomenon with its high EM, magnetic and gravity anomalies can produce both para psychological and UFOs type activity on human behavior. Skinwalker Ranch in Utah is another good example. There are many portals around the earth that exhibit these characteristics.

    It is common and well known in the literature that repeated relationships between certain spatial regions and UFO like objects correlates with geophysical processes in the production of these levels as piezoelectric like effects. Tectonic strain, without gross seismicity by transient extremely fine local isolation of other normal geophysical forces correlates with apparent effects that relate to episodes upon human beings. The images taken of objects at Yakima are similar to Mount Adams

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    Default Re: Is James Gilliland a Cosmic Conman?

    Quote Posted by TravelerJim (here)
    And with respect to the "sightings" I didn't see anything which was at all conclusive even though he or others claimed them to be.
    I visited there twice, in 2008 and 2012. Each time, I was just there for one night, and the first time there no way was I expecting to see anything at all.

    But both evenings, I saw bright lights zipping all over the night sky, changing direction, slowing down, accelerating, flaring up, and doing all the things James regularly describes. These weren't satellites or aircraft. I was astonished and impressed.

    Re James himself, this is a different matter. I completely share everyone's profound misgivings here.

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    Default Re: Is James Gilliland a Cosmic Conman?

    Not to judge, but I actually thought James was a normal spiritual and cool kinda guy, till what I'm reading on this thread. Taking advantage of women, looking for handouts Is he on some power trip now?
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    The happiest people I know are evaluating and improving themselves.
    Then unhappy people are usually evaluating and judging others!

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    Quote Posted by Blacklight43 (here)
    The happiest people I know are evaluating and improving themselves.
    Then unhappy people are usually evaluating and judging others!
    Judgement is different than catty. Judgement to some may be discernment for others. I’ve experienced unhappiness because I was naive and trusting of some characters. Discernment is a necessary part of a quality life.



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    Default Re: Is James Gilliland a Cosmic Conman?

    I see it more as type matching. Some personalities mesh, some don't. It can also be about timing - the wrong place at the wrong time. Any of these can lead to alarm bells ringing and suspicions rising. These can then be over-emphasized, with little things becoming over-blown in importance.

    That's how I like to think of it, anyways. Luckily, others have a keen sense in such matters and I have been surprised numerous times by those that have been exposed as frauds in the past.

    Like many, I will stay neutral until all the evidence is brought forward.

    My judgment is that I won't judge those that decide to judge.

    It took a long time to convince me about David Wilcock. But, in the end, they were correct in their assessment.


    As a generality, such talk only re-enforces my personal belief that we are truly flawed beings...that the price of admission to this reality is to pay homage to the evil one. It is this 'favoured son', this fallen angel, the dark prince itself that has fashioned this world and who in its arrogance requires 'free will' and is hailed 'light-bringer' by the ignorant.
    Only those who first extinguish their light need 'free will'.
    Only those in the dark need saving.
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    Default Re: Is James Gilliland a Cosmic Conman?

    Quote Posted by Blacklight43 (here)
    The happiest people I know are evaluating and improving themselves.
    Then unhappy people are usually evaluating and judging others!
    If you fail to judge someone based on their suspicious behavior and you get conned, swindled, molested, etc. by them, are you still one of the happiest people?

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    Happiness is a choice! I leave judgement to a higher power! And use discernment in between!

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    Quote Posted by Blacklight43 (here)
    Happiness is a choice! I leave judgement to a higher power! And use discernment in between!
    Yes, happiness is a choice. Many are unaware of their addiction to a dark cloud over their head. I’d add that it can be a challenge to walk through the minefield of ankle biters, and those who are infested with them.
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    Default Re: Is James Gilliland a Cosmic Conman?

    After most of this Spiritual ET Mumbo Jumbo, I still find much value in several UFOlogists in this field. And to name some here, Linda Moulton Howe, Richard Dolan, Bill Ryan/Kerry Cassidy.

    To this day I still listen to them and find value. I've truly enjoyed Bob Deane tremendously, but he's since gone home. I so miss Bob very much.
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    Default Re: Is James Gilliland a Cosmic Conman?

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    But both evenings, I saw bright lights zipping all over the night sky, changing direction, slowing down, accelerating, flaring up, and doing all the things James regularly describes. These weren't satellites or aircraft. I was astonished and impressed.
    Have you recently looked in to the sky where you are at night?

    I've seen "stars" zipping about the almost every night from a big city in Colorado since May 2021

    When I camp far from the city lights there are dozens of these things in the sky each night.

    Definitely not satellites or planes, they often do 90 degree turns instantly or zig and zag around in specific regions of the sky.

    I would say their behavior is "playful" much like a fish swimming around in a fish tank.

    Sounds similar to what you describe, it seems this activity as seen at ECETI, Marfa Texas and others that was once more restricted geographically has become common all over the globe.

    Just curious if you actively look into your sky and if you see similar things now.
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    Default Re: Is James Gilliland a Cosmic Conman?

    The OP question is about James G. being a cosmic conman. It seems that it's also become a personal attack on his character. After my own personal attack a few years back by a former trusted colleague accusing me of hoaxing it was really hard to understand why and Bill himself provided a measure of comfort by saying, "when your over a target you should expect flak." That really helped. One thing I value is personal integrity and perhaps Gilliland is guilty of those things mentioned but I go back and think of the hurt caused so James deserves the opportunity to address those accusations.

    His dedication in the field is honorable though. So imo he is not a cosmic conman. I have no opinion on James personally except he shares the same interest.

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    Default Re: Is James Gilliland a Cosmic Conman?

    Quote Posted by WhiteFeather (here)
    After most of this Spiritual ET Mumbo Jumbo, I still find much value in several UFOlogists in this field. And to name some here, Linda Moulton Howe, Richard Dolan, Bill Ryan/Kerry Cassidy.

    To this day I still listen to them and find value. I've truly enjoyed Bob Deane tremendously, but he's since gone home. I so miss Bob very much.
    WhiteFeather, I'll bump that
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    Default Re: Is James Gilliland a Cosmic Conman?

    Quote Posted by mojo (here)
    The OP question is about James G. being a cosmic conman. It seems that it's also become a personal attack on his character. After my own personal attack a few years back by a former trusted colleague accusing me of hoaxing it was really hard to understand why and Bill himself provided a measure of comfort by saying, "when your over a target you should expect flak." That really helped. One thing I value is personal integrity and perhaps Gilliland is guilty of those things mentioned but I go back and think of the hurt caused so James deserves the opportunity to address those accusations.

    His dedication in the field is honorable though. So imo he is not a cosmic conman. I have no opinion on James personally except he shares the same interest.
    and a for your post mojo

    As for the UFO's of the orb type as seen at the ranch, well yes I would say elctro-magnetic, seismic active energies from the mountain, but then such energies would probably attract UFO's so, which is what o.0
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