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  • I believe that God is the prime Creator of everything.

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  • I believe in many gods.

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  • I believe in god that had a human form.

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  • I believe in spirituality only.

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  • I still have to clear up my concept of God.

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    Default Do you believe in God ?

    This is not a poll about a strict religious branch, this is an open concept about the belief in the Creator of the worlds, who has power over everything, who created every creature in this planet or elsewhere, who created the good and evil, the light and the darkness, the spiritual realm and the material, who is all knowing and all merciful. The one who we don't know His form or image.
    That's my strong belief too.
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    Lightbulb Re: Do you believe in God ?

    The word "believe" to me, means: "not knowing for sure" ... also to accept having certain assumptions without real evidence. That is why I rather consider or know or experience myself etc.
    • Do you "believe" in UFOs is a super silly question as mainstream media wrongfully assumes it is "only" a "belief-system" >>> just like religions are (by default!).
    The concept of a Prime Creator is way too big for any man-made and/or alien-made belief-systems ... In my view Prime-Creator is beyond anything we project on it ... that does not mean it is "not there"
    • "Brother Ralphos" Irishman from Paltalk Chatroom (I ran in early 2000s) quote: "If God (as described in the human-written Bible) is KNOWN to exist no "belief-system" is required anymore ... no "belief" needed anymore". unquote
    Do you "believe" Japan to exist or do you know that Japan exist!

    If your wife/husband ask you if you love her/him ... how would she/he respond if you say: "I believe I do" versus "yes! I do".

    To me, the word "believe" is a weak verb ... but it can certainly have a strong psychological impact including your physical well-being.

    example:

    If I genuinely believe that a "flying pink elephant in the sky" exists that protects me form all evil ... having that assumption (even without any evidence) may help me psychologically so much so, that I sleep better, am free from having all kinds of fears >>> thus my "way of living" using my full potential is far "better off" than not having that belief-system.

    You could say it is a form of self-hypnosis. And when you take that away from anyone it is OBVIOUS it can make it worse for people not knowing how to find their own empowerment from within and/or being 100% responsible for your own quality of thinking.

    Because of my Near Death Experience when I was 5 years old ... I know (not just a "believe") that we are so much more than our "5 senses" can show us ... and because of that experience I fear no death ... Having no fear of death is KEY to understand how I am not to be "boxed" in any religious system that people love to project on me.

    Most (fanatic) Christians assume that "how I think" (and feel) ... "must" be the same as "rejecting Jesus as our only Savior" and/or assuming I "must" be a misguided "New Ager" and/or "am working with the Devil" and/or "I am influenced by Demons" and/or I suppose to be a victim of "evil spirits" and/or ... and the list is super long WHY I am so so fed up with most of them!

    To me, most followers of Jesus are so unlike Christ! ... I can talk/write about this topic endlessly ... but let me sum it up quite simple:

    If (the concept) of a TRUE Prime Creator that created everything ... then everything that comes from it >>> is off it, like sparks of a fire ... even if you decide to not to accept that insight and totally forgot your own true origins.



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    Default Re: Do you believe in God ?

    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    The word "believe" to me means "not knowing for sure" ... also to accept having certain assumptions without real evidence.
    • Do you "believe" in UFOs is a silly question mainstream media assume it is "only" a "belief-system" just like religion.
    The concept of a Prime Creator is way too big for any man-made and/or alien-made belief-systems ... In my view Prime-Creator is beyond anything we project on it ... that does not mean it is "not there"
    We are born and we will die without seeing God, so it's a matter of belief and faith, without hard evidences only concepts, signs, clues and most important Scriptures in different countries, cultures and times.

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    Default Re: Do you believe in God ?

    When you know the ultimate answer, you then find out you needed to know the ultimate question that gave it meaning.

    It is hard enough getting my head to fully hold the concept of a Klein bottle, and now you give me this multiple choice?

    All is one, all creation in its infinite endlessness is the creator. We are all one, and so we are all part of one infinite creator.

    If we see ourselves as limited and separate - as almost all of us in our incarnated situation will do, it puts in a situation we can contemplate what it means to believe and in which we can contemplate idea of a God, instead of actually being fully part of it all.

    I cant select an answer in the test as there isn't an answer which encapsulates the multidimensional and infinite expanse that is creation, and may also be God.

    But...

    Thanks for asking the question!
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    Default Re: Do you believe in God ?

    My question would be 'Does God believe in Me'

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    Lightbulb Re: Do you believe in God ?

    Quote Posted by mizo (here)
    My question would be 'Does God believe in Me'
    They will quote (human written/translated/edited) "holy scripture" on you ad nauseam ... "to make you believe He believes in you" even if it is a weak verb ... the word "believe".
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    Lightbulb Re: Do you believe in God ?

    So many assume that when you say: "I do not believe" because I want to know/experience they have a way to MAKE you "experience" things that fits their version of a belief-system ... not realizing that psychological (control) mechanism can be applied on so many other "belief systems" as well having also special or profound meaning to people ...

    The more people doing the same ... the more likely people assume "it must be right then" ... meanwhile it can also be a form of "mass formation psychosis" and/or mass hypnosis and/or mass use of the power of suggestion using NLP-type techniques etc.

    My own focus is that I want to be held accountable and be fully responsible for my own quality of thinking not hiding behind any belief-system that tells me how to think ... This is a hard one for many to understand where I coming from.

    When someone is empowered from within without harming nor (ab)using nor lying to anyone ... You do not "need" to have power over others anymore ... Anyone that "needs" power (control) over others actually makes a clear statement: ... that you do not have it ... Psychopathic control freaks & people needing power over others are just pathetic parasites using all kinds of schemes & deception techniques to keep them "in power" based upon lies. Does not matter who is doing it ... like: Politicians, Bankers, Religious leaders, Priests, Popes, CEOs, WEF Minnions, Bilderbergers, Head of Secret Societies etc. etc.

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    Default Re: Do you believe in God ?

    When anyone claims "I believe that God is the prime Creator of everything"
    • my follow up question to that belief is ...
    How much of that belief is what humans interpreted/edited/translated FOR you? ... they did "the work" for you ...

    How much trust do you place in The First Council of Nicaea a council of Christian bishops convened in the Bithynian city of Nicaea (now İznik, Turkey) by the Roman Emperor Constantine I in AD 325 who are all humans not the "Prime Creator"!

    Now you understand that any "believe" is heavily related to others do the "interpretation work" connected to their agenda of control-mechanisms even if it was done with "good intentions" they still can become victim of: peer pressure, bias, having assumptions, pleasing power structures, hierarchical thinking & behavior at the time etc. etc.
    • In my view, to question all of that does not make you "evil".
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    Default Re: Do you believe in God ?

    Quote Posted by Vicus (here)
    Stylized duality,
    Witch is witch

    Same, but from another perspective:


    Quote Posted by Anchor (here)
    When you know the ultimate answer, you then find out you needed to know the ultimate question that gave it meaning.
    42, good as any
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    My dad passed away this past December at his house a few doors down from mine. He was 89 , he knew his heart was bad and he had gone to the hospital for a 2cd time to get the water off his heart. Only this time they had to keep his heart going with an IV medicated drip. So after a conference call with the family and docs my dad said he wanted to come home to spend his last moments here on earth at his house and with family. The ambulance company brought him home on the IV drip and once in the house then finally disconnected the IV with the meds. We all spent that day talking about old times and the military and had some wine and enjoyed many laughs. We did not know if he was going to last 1 minute , 1 hour, or days at this point. My mom slept in the chair next to him that night and it was a good day and we were all glad to have him back. The next day friday the IV drip with the meds was wearing off. We gave him some morphine oral liquid provided by hospice but my dad was still alert and functional. I came home from work at 5:30 pm and went to his house and sat next to him, we talked a bit and he got up to go to the bathroom. He was then sitting upright on the side of the bed and ate some peaches and drank some juice. He got quiet for a minute and lifted his eyes and looked at me and said " I'm ready for the man to come and get me ! ". He was tired, he was ready. I said something back to him in a little joking way and then got him to sit back in his inclined bed we had for him. I got him comfortable and said hows that. He got quiet again .

    A few moments went by and then he lunged forward because he heart was stopping , I told my mom to get me a cold washcloth and then my dad lunged forward again not taking in any air at all. As he did this a second time as I was reaching down and grabbing his elbow and other hand he spoke his final 2 words as clear as a bell. He said "MY LORD". Not in distress, not as a reaction but only as if he was seeing GOD. He never grabbed my hand back when he said that, I think he was already leaving his body as he closed his eyes right after he said that.

    A few days before he died my mom was staying in the living facility the hospital was providing , she took the elevator up to the floor she was on one evening after staying with my dad. She was alone. She walked out the elevator and she said someone gave her a hung from behind her and said " My dad is going to be ok, gods got this! ". ..................................... My mom said nobody was on that floor or behind her after she heard this, I'm thinking that was one of my dads guardian angels that did this. I have many more stories than this involving divine intervention. I'm gonna miss my dad, he was a great guy.

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    I don't have to believe in the ultimate reality, Love. I know it's real and it's all that is. We wouldn't be here if it wasn't for that love.

    The human intellect could never fully grasp the Creator so it's pointless even try to define it. We just call "it" God, Brahman, Tao, Allah etc. We obviously are all part of the Creator. Now we just think that we are individual human beings because we feel separate due to our egos which constitute our so called our personalities. Theatrical characters in a theatre play.
    "When you've seen beyond yourself, then you may find, peace of mind is waiting there." ~ George Harrison

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    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    The word "believe" to me, means: "not knowing for sure" ... also to accept having certain assumptions without real evidence. That is why I rather consider or know or experience myself etc.
    • Do you "believe" in UFOs is a super silly question as mainstream media wrongfully assumes it is "only" a "belief-system" >>> just like religions are (by default!).
    The concept of a Prime Creator is way too big for any man-made and/or alien-made belief-systems ... In my view Prime-Creator is beyond anything we project on it ... that does not mean it is "not there"
    • "Brother Ralphos" Irishman from Paltalk Chatroom (I ran in early 2000s) quote: "If God (as described in the human-written Bible) is KNOWN to exist no "belief-system" is required anymore ... no "belief" needed anymore". unquote
    Do you "believe" Japan to exist or do you know that Japan exist!

    If your wife/husband ask you if you love her/him ... how would she/he respond if you say: "I believe I do" versus "yes! I do".

    To me, the word "believe" is a weak verb ... but it can certainly have a strong psychological impact including your physical well-being.

    example:

    If I genuinely believe that a "flying pink elephant in the sky" exists that protects me form all evil ... having that assumption (even without any evidence) may help me psychologically so much so, that I sleep better, am free from having all kinds of fears >>> thus my "way of living" using my full potential is far "better off" than not having that belief-system.

    You could say it is a form of self-hypnosis. And when you take that away from anyone it is OBVIOUS it can make it worse for people not knowing how to find their own empowerment from within and/or being 100% responsible for your own quality of thinking.

    Because of my Near Death Experience when I was 5 years old ... I know (not just a "believe") that we are so much more than our "5 senses" can show us ... and because of that experience I fear no death ... Having no fear of death is KEY to understand how I am not to be "boxed" in any religious system that people love to project on me.

    Most (fanatic) Christians assume that "how I think" (and feel) ... "must" be the same as "rejecting Jesus as our only Savior" and/or assuming I "must" be a misguided "New Ager" and/or "am working with the Devil" and/or "I am influenced by Demons" and/or I suppose to be a victim of "evil spirits" and/or ... and the list is super long WHY I am so so fed up with most of them!

    To me, most followers of Jesus are so unlike Christ! ... I can talk/write about this topic endlessly ... but let me sum it up quite simple:

    If (the concept) of a TRUE Prime Creator that created everything ... then everything that comes from it >>> is off it, like sparks of a fire ... even if you decide to not to accept that insight and totally forgot your own true origins.



    cheers,
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    June 6th, 2022 🦜🦋🌳
    Wow well said; Christians, in my lofty and possibly blasphemous opinion, would/could/should be spirit first, law second as preached by Jesus. Honesty and humility and optimism go well with this apparently (in my own dumb understanding of my own dogma).

    And what does believe mean? ...like your approach... This subject is related to something I wanted to share here,...

    ...Like I think I'm a believer but when I have a hard look at what I trust in life, I see what I actually believe in. Do I really believe in God? Or do I really believe in money? If I believed in God I would trust what God says, and I am so far away from that (as a 'believer'), I keep all my money then spend it selfishly.

    Now this is my culture, as a Babylonian Englishman and who would fault me for spending my money on modern rubbish that keeps me in an infant state cool modern things that impress people*1? So I thought I was a believer but I see how much I have to learn yet. Jesus wasn't a Christian and when does worshipping a cross become idle worship? In the early stories of Abraham idles have a starring role (in a bad way). People might ask "what would Jesus do?" but look back and ask: what would Abraham have said about Christian idles? Sorry I'm having too much fun with this. I identify as a Christian and I own a crucifix, although on increasing reflection I don't hold it half as sacred as my own humble believing.

    *1 I don't really buy 'cool stuff', I just bought 300L of manure, some chicken shĩt and calcium chloride to make activated charcoal for water filters. And a ludicrous amount of sugar to make preserve. Ok, fair enough, the manure and chicken **** is actually cool

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    and when does worshipping a cross become idle worship?
    If that was deliberate I say well done! :D

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    Default Re: Do you believe in God ?

    Quote Posted by Ewan (here)
    Quote Posted by Matthew (here)

    and when does worshipping a cross become idle worship?
    If that was deliberate I say well done! :D
    Lol no it wasn't but I think I see it now. If not please please explain it to me.

    edit add: I've got a terrible sense of spelling, idle vs idol or patients vs patients, or weather whether either or whatever, ... Ack, I still get caught out

    edit adderendum: presents and presence; one is introduced with a polite cough. Aloud and allowed, a round and around. This is such a stupid language.
    Last edited by Matthew; 7th June 2022 at 21:21.

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    I feel that there could be another option, we are all god in singular individualistic form experiencing creation from a third dimension perspective, maybe admiring our handiwork? Or similar to the conversations with god books. Either way when I shuffle back to home/source I shall decide to set up camp there for the next billion years.

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    I feel that there could be another option, we are all god in singular individualistic form experiencing creation from a third dimension perspective, maybe admiring our handiwork? Or similar to the conversations with god books. Either way when I shuffle back to home/source I shall decide to set up camp there for the next billion years.
    Yes, so the question should really be: Do I believe in myself?

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    Default Re: Do you believe in God ?

    It is a wonderful question ( every time it is asked ).

    The choices in the poll do not allow me to take the poll itself - but I would indeed answer.

    I am aware of / believe/perceive/take part in a CREATIONING.

    A movement, if you will, that makes all ( things ) move.

    I refer to its formation as 'the kaleidoscope' and it is the main experience for me in this incarnation.

    It is also often referred to at large as the dimensional existence.

    It is phenomenal, of course, but the experience OF it is very real to us. So real we generally refer to it as reality.

    Personifying the Creationing ( the Original Movement ), making it into a Creator is something we can and DO do, but I find it less a fact - less fundamental - than the Creationing itself.

    I do often sense, and even on some level experience That which underlies the Creationing, but this is not what most are referencing when speaking of or asking about 'God'. This Underlying Principle is beyond conception, but the concepts I notice most used to describe it are : Stillness, Silence, Presence, One-Without-a-Second. It lay beyond all experience and is therefore so far beyond what any embodied being may know that is a small circle indeed who might benefit from discussion in this direction. Still---the opening is ever-present.


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    In situations where chaos has suddenly righted itself, and a beautiful outcome had me amazed and stunned, I’ve often said, “OMG, God is really, really real.” “Praised be the Lord!!!”
    It has happened too many times for me to ignore it.

    Especially while living in a third world country, where there are less systems in place that make life convenient, miracles become more noticeable.

    For me it is fact that prayers work. Fact, not just belief.

    And that the Source is not only listening, but sending out responses and messages, via telepathy, to the aether, which then get picked up by individuals of which a small percentage decide to act and then come into my life to help me sort out whatever mess there was.

    The appreciation of such a marvelous outcome is then a major part of getting more of the same.

    Worship is a higher frequency than just love, so worship can raise one to a level of extreme awe; a level at which star gates open, and exquisite visions appear. This channel between the self and the Almighty Source, opens because of our own willingness to look, and seek.

    It gives glimpses of the divine Perfection, which I consider the absolute in Goodness, in Beauty, in Love, and even in Mathematics, as expressed in the geometry of astrology.

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