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    that game looks amazing, I can see how I was tricked into being here now.
    "The Perception of an Illusion is Deception, even when you believed it was real! Perception of Deception is not an Illusion at all!" Carl Stoynoff

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    • In my view true Prime Creator (The Real Source of All That Is) is beyond "the need for, or to be worship(ped)". Let that sink in for a moment ...
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    “What does God need with a starship?”

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    The story behind the quote: This week’s quote comes from Star Trek V: The Final Frontier. The film features the original cast of the 1967 series that started it all. The film features the crew of the USS Enterprise as they journey with Spock’s half-brother, Sybok, to allegedly find God.

    The quote comes near the end of the film. The USS Enterprise does manage to get to the planet that holds “God.” This seemingly all-powerful being requests to board the starship that brought them to the planet. This is when Captain James T. Kirk (played by William Shatner) delivers the quote.



    Geek wisdom: Sometimes, it’s best to not take things at face value. Just because something seems to be plausible, that doesn’t automatically mean it’s positively true. We have to look at things with a critical eye and not just blindly accept the things in front of us.

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    Default Re: Do you believe in God ?

    This is actually a very timely thread given the situation we've been in for the past couple of years...

    I had written up-thread that if God is indeed the almighty, all-powerful creator, why would he have allowed evil people to exist?

    Someone replied that we all have choices to make, yada yada...
    some choose to be evil...etc.

    But that didn't answer my question. Why would God have been so sinister for allowing people to choose in the first place?
    I'm sure he didn't have to. I'm sure no one was pointing a gun to his head saying "Make sure you allow some people to become evil".

    It's not simply a matter of "Oh well, they will meet their fate when they die, yada yada..."

    Because those evil people (cue the past couple of years)
    are making lives miserable for a huge portion of the population now. It gives us no solace knowing that when those evil bastards die they will meet their fate.

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    Quote Posted by Johnnycomelately (here)
    Good post, Anchor, except for your concept of how it started. Or rather how it couldn’t have started. What
    I heard was that god woke up, then began experimenting with his consciousness and his creative power, and by and by created and became god of all that we know. Talking ‘our’ heaven as well as this universe-for-dummies, and granting him time for lots of prototype development. Seems reasonable to me. My big question is, does/did god have a mom and dad? Am lifely serious here.
    Travelling around the surface of a mobius strip is endless. Its hard to conceive of endless, no start no end, just ongoing progress. No start, no beginning, no end.

    My reference to a klein bottle in my first post was similarly motivated by that idea - just one extra dimension to it. There would be similar paradoxical structures involving even more dimensions of expression but we have no reference for it, and so on.

    I am insipired by this :
    Quote "The best way to deal with temporal paradoxes is not to think about them."
    —Captain Kathryn Janeway Star Trek: Voyager"
    I like this, and in my self have agreed that it is not important to me how it all started - because I cannot properly conceive of the infinite with my material mind.

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    God, in my opinion, is total spirit, not physical, not male or female, not in one
    particular place, no beginning, no ending.

    Maybe other lesser entities created physical beings like us
    humans billions of times thro. time or in no time as the case
    might be. Also maybe, creating countless life forms like
    animals insects ect. and things we can't even imagine.

    Perhaps, since we don't really know, beings on other planets
    and dimensions that we might encounter some time in the future
    or have encountered and did not know it.

    Our wildest imaginations might not even come close to what could be.
    Question Everything, always speak truth... Make the best of today, for there may not be a tomorrow!!! But, that's OK because tomorrow never comes, so we have nothing to worry about!!!

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    Quote Posted by DaveToo (here)
    This is actually a very timely thread given the situation we've been in for the past couple of years...

    I had written up-thread that if God is indeed the almighty, all-powerful creator, why would he have allowed evil people to exist?

    Someone replied that we all have choices to make, yada yada...
    some choose to be evil...etc.

    But that didn't answer my question. Why would God have been so sinister for allowing people to choose in the first place?
    I'm sure he didn't have to. I'm sure no one was pointing a gun to his head saying "Make sure you allow some people to become evil".

    It's not simply a matter of "Oh well, they will meet their fate when they die, yada yada..."

    Because those evil people (cue the past couple of years)
    are making lives miserable for a huge portion of the population now. It gives us no solace knowing that when those evil bastards die they will meet their fate.
    This is precisely the wisdom in requesting healing for the perpetrators. Healing of the perpetrators heals the victims in turn. What is our purpose in being here?

    It's a challenging exercise in bringing love to bear in the most challenging of circumstances.
    "Without the human request, nothing will happen."

    "This must never be forgotten, that the human has the power to prevail."

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    Quote Posted by wookie (here)
    that game looks amazing, i can see how i was tricked into being here now.

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    How can I try not to corrupt words and make it simple?
    The concept of "God" cannot be explained or proven.
    There is never enough "evidence" for the skeptics.
    Skeptics could also be enslaved and are "followers" of their own ego.
    What or who is God? I do not know but I am anticipating towards understanding what cannot be totally understood, because life experience has led me to know that living in certain discipline results in tranquility and clarity.
    If there were no DIvine Force, karma would not exist...
    I could go on but...

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    Quote Posted by Docim369 (here)
    How can I try not to corrupt words and make it simple?
    The concept of "God" cannot be explained or proven.
    There is never enough "evidence" for the skeptics.
    Skeptics could also be enslaved and are "followers" of their own ego.
    What or who is God? I do not know but I am anticipating towards understanding what cannot be totally understood, because life experience has led me to know that living in certain discipline results in tranquility and clarity.
    If there were no DIvine Force, karma would not exist...
    I could go on but...
    The more you try to understand other cultures and spiritual paths other than the one that assumes God is an old wise guy in a robe who uses sandals and has a "grandpa" look to it, or a westernized one, the closer you get to understand what's going on

    Quote life experience has led me to know that living in certain discipline results in tranquility and clarity
    The path to grow doesn't go that way, this is fake safety, this is fear and control. Clarity of what?

    - All the answers are in this book, as long as you don't go searching for answers anywhere else you'll be fine.
    + Who wrote the book?
    - Don't ask questions things you need not to worry about
    + But i want to know who wrote the book
    - It's the word of God... Don't question it
    + How do you know that?
    - IT is on the Book, read it and don't dare question the word of God...
    + But was the book was written by God? Then how do you know that?
    - Read the book! It says so right there, it's the word of God
    + But who wrote it in the first place....
    - It says so in the book, God wrote it! Stop questioning! Heretic brute!
    +.....

    Back when i watched this movie, i did not think it would be so so much appropriate through this life...



    "Don't look outside the window"
    Why?
    "There are evil truths out there that i can't handle"
    Why?
    "I'm unable to explain them to you and therefore you must not know about them"
    Why?
    Crawls into the floor and turns into a small kid lying in a fetal position, sobbing silently while begging God for the evil person to go away... "I don't knoowwwwwwwwww!" Screams the person
    Why don't you know? Says the evil demon




    Yes, I'm a fallen angel, and i won't say sorry for that
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    Fear and compliance are the tools of the Church, you don't want to be singled out, do you? Everyone will know and look at you, Shame! Shame! Shaaaaaaaame!

    The path to knowledge doesn't lie in the light, because:

    Everything that is known, is on the light, there's nothing to hide, it is there for everyone to see

    The path to discovery and learning, lies on the dark corner of the room, in there, unknown wisdom exists. But you need to take the step to go there and not fear the darkness. Then once you reach and see, that place is 'enlightened' and is not 'dark' anymore, what you found/discovered has now become 'light' as it is now visible and understood, it has become part of the protective light

    If you are told not to look beyond, then you are being told not to grow

    Do you understand?
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    Quote The more you try to understand other cultures and spiritual paths other than the one that assumes God is an old wise guy in a robe who uses sandals and has a "grandpa" look to it, or a westernized one, the closer you get to understand what's going on
    Slow down...
    Atma, Buddhi are concepts I am looking at. It is inside every living thing. You could call int Divine Intelligence. It gives life and form.
    The externalized god is the deceiver.
    One should always discern which spirit is behind a certain thing (Bible teaching).
    Like to be cautious concerning spiritual and intellectual pride(Bible teaching)...
    I understand your point of view though, much reminds me of mine some years ago.
    Much success on whichever path you are following

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    Quote Posted by Docim369 (here)
    Quote The more you try to understand other cultures and spiritual paths other than the one that assumes God is an old wise guy in a robe who uses sandals and has a "grandpa" look to it, or a westernized one, the closer you get to understand what's going on
    Slow down...
    Why?

    Quote Atma, Buddhi are concepts I am looking at. It is inside every living thing. You could call int Divine Intelligence. It gives life and form.
    If you always follow other people in this way, you will always be (at least) one step behind...

    Quote The externalized god is the deceiver.
    Everything is deceiving in this reality

    Quote One should always discern which spirit is behind a certain thing (Bible teaching).
    No. One must not, one should not even try that, it becomes "judgment" based on your beliefs. Do you understand?

    Quote Like to be cautious concerning spiritual and intellectual pride(Bible teaching)...
    As above

    Quote I understand your point of view though, much reminds me of mine some years ago.
    Maybe you should have kept going over that path.....

    Quote Much success on whichever path you are following
    Thanks, and hope you do as well

    Decypher this meanwhile

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...117240-Life-is

    You are trying to do/learn something, that's the problem right there
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    Quote Slow down...
    Why?
    Because you are making false assumptions and are emotionally reacting.
    Quote If you always follow other people in this way, you will always be (at least) one step behind...
    It is not other people it is Divine Intelligence, as I have already stated.
    Quote No. One must not, one should not even try that, it becomes "judgment" based on your beliefs. Do you understand?
    Discernment is not judgment. Because everything in this reality, I agree with you, is deception, EXCEPT THE LIFE GIVING FORCE, one must use discernment in order to not fall into falsehood.
    Quote Decypher this meanwhile
    I will go through the thread you sent.
    Much Love to you

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    Quote Posted by Docim369 (here)
    Quote Slow down...
    Why?
    Because you are making false assumptions and are emotionally reacting.
    Actually no lmao. I'm playing with your feelings and it was you the one who reacted, back on that post and just now

    Quote
    Quote If you always follow other people in this way, you will always be (at least) one step behind...
    It is not other people it is Divine Intelligence, as I have already stated.
    You should have stopped and think about that first. i specifically explain how dumb that concept and understanding is, but you clearly did not consider it for a second. Makes you look bad

    Quote
    Quote No. One must not, one should not even try that, it becomes "judgment" based on your beliefs. Do you understand?
    Discernment is not judgment. Because everything in this reality, I agree with you, is deception, EXCEPT THE LIFE GIVING FORCE, one must use discernment in order to not fall into falsehood.
    See, this is how i know you are getting all emotional, but as emotional people tend to do, you accuse me of the very same things you are doing or feeling.. LMFAO!

    Also please don't yell, it tends to send spit out of your mouth into other people's faces, even when online conversations

    Slow down, you are getting emotional, read your last post several times and you'll see, hopefully

    Quote
    Quote Decypher this meanwhile
    I will go through the thread you sent.
    Much Love to you
    There is not much there so it's a lot to go through. It could take a lifetime to figure it out because it is just two words. So, if you go there, spend the unnecessary time before assuming things
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    "The page turns on me and you
    Across that white plain
    The land is unchanged"

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    There must be some kind of irony in all of that post

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    There must be some kind of irony in all of that post

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    There must be some kind of irony in all of that post

    will add link see if that works...thanks
    It does! Thank you

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