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    Except the things forbidden in 10 commandments that most of us know them, I will share other important ones:

    1- Do not involve into magic (witchcraft) and do not use it.
    2- Do not eat the meat of the swine and the meat of dead animals. (The swine shares 98% of human DNA and maybe it's related to that)
    3- Do not drink blood. (First it look weird even to think about that, but it has been and still is being used in rituals and secret societies who have taken a wretched path)
    4- Do not do immorality and even worst do not spread it.
    5- Do not charge interest when lending money.
    6- About alcohol it says that it makes a lot more damage than good.
    7- Do not enter another house without the owner's permission.
    8- Do not preach what you do not do, even if it looks good.
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    What if some of the so called "magic" are unexplained miracles/events that are divinely inspired ... and most things what people assume "must" be the "word of god" is not really directly from the Prime Creator but just common sense/insights from a certain perspective human mortals can relate to.

    Neutral super wise wisdoms obtained over centuries are all relative ... and not "exclusive" to 1 source, but just common sense ... Not everybody uses/promotes common sense >>> especially when they have to lie to themselves and lie to others ... Common sense becomes their biggest enemy.
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    What if some of the so called "magic" are unexplained miracles/events that are divinely inspired
    Wrong translation from me, but in there it's specified in involvement in witchcraft with spells and rituals to harm others. The translation can be confusing sometimes.
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    What if some of the so called "magic" are unexplained miracles/events that are divinely inspired
    Wrong translation from me, but in there it's specified in involvement in witchcraft with spells and rituals to harm others. The translation can be confusing sometimes.

    Let me guess ... translation from the Quran/Koran
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    Let me guess ... translation from the Quran/Koran
    Yes and it's in the Bible too:

    Deuteronomy 18:9–12 “When you enter the land the Lord your God is giving you, do not learn to imitate the detestable ways of the nations there. Let no one be found among you who sacrifices their son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. Anyone who does these things is detestable to the Lord.”
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    • Am not gonna repeat myself again ... see some my contributions here (I made much more in dozens of other Project Avalon Forum Threads too last 11 years).
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    Being aware of "what is" without the words. Alan Watts at his best. Nothing to add.



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    Quote Posted by Eagle Eye (here)
    Except the things forbidden in 10 commandments that most of us know them, I will share other important ones:

    1- Do not involve into magic (witchcraft) and do not use it.
    2- Do not eat the meat of the swine and the meat of dead animals. (The swine shares 98% of human DNA and maybe it's related to that)
    3- Do not drink blood. (First it look weird even to think about that, but it has been and still is being used in rituals and secret societies who have taken a wretched path)
    4- Do not do immorality and even worst do not spread it.
    5- Do not charge interest when lending money.
    6- About alcohol it says that it makes a lot more damage than good.
    7- Do not enter another house without the owner's permission.
    8- Do not preach what you do not do, even if it looks good.
    you know the commandment "thou shalt not kill" also means "though shalt not eat" because even plants are killed when you eat them

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    also means "though shalt not eat" because even plants are killed when you eat them
    If you read them, only to find errors, you will think you have found them in all the verses, but the truth is different. There is a clear explanation that hunting is allowed (for the purpose of feeding, not for fun) and also harvesting plants. It has been allowed also the killing of an enemy, to protect something sacred and the killing of those who do large corruption on the land (in oppressing, in immorality, etc...). The 10 Commandments are a summary of what is most important, but you can't understand the real meaning in details, without reading entire Revelations from God.
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    The spirit of the law is far more transcendent than the letter of the law.
    That stumbling mistake has been made so many times before.
    Very unfortunate human proclivity.

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    Quote Posted by TomKat (here)
    Quote Posted by Eagle Eye (here)
    Except the things forbidden in 10 commandments that most of us know them, I will share other important ones:

    1- Do not involve into magic (witchcraft) and do not use it.
    2- Do not eat the meat of the swine and the meat of dead animals. (The swine shares 98% of human DNA and maybe it's related to that)
    3- Do not drink blood. (First it look weird even to think about that, but it has been and still is being used in rituals and secret societies who have taken a wretched path)
    4- Do not do immorality and even worst do not spread it.
    5- Do not charge interest when lending money.
    6- About alcohol it says that it makes a lot more damage than good.
    7- Do not enter another house without the owner's permission.
    8- Do not preach what you do not do, even if it looks good.
    you know the commandment "thou shalt not kill" also means "though shalt not eat" because even plants are killed when you eat them

    It is often misinterpreted, the commandment properly translated in context is thou shalt not MURDER. You "may" kill in the defense of your life or that of another. You MAY NOT premeditate or plan a murder Of ANOTHER human.

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    Well, I hold the views as below:

    1. The Bible isn't all from Jesus. Most of it was written by humans. They did many changes about Jesus' words. I love Jesus' teaching but don't like the Old Testament.
    So, I don't believe that God will forbidden something in the Bible. I think, God only teaches us what good is and what evil is. But it is only ourselves to decide which I will act.

    2. I like eating some meat. One article written by Xuefeng shared here which I totally agree:

    肉应不应该吃

    Can We Eat Meat?

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    佛学讲不应该吃肉,因为吃肉是杀生,是摧残生命,是不仁慈的表现,吃肉者与佛无缘。另一个观点是你吃的肉或许是父母亲人的肉,因为有可能是父母亲人转世来的,所以坚决不能吃。后来学佛者根据在家居士的生活情况,提 出可以吃"三净肉,"即:不为我杀;我不杀;不看其杀之肉可吃。也就是说,自己吃的肉不是他人专门给自己宰杀的,自己不去杀动物,自己不眼看着动物被杀,这样的肉可吃。藏传佛教对吃肉是认可的,因为藏民主要是牧民 ,牛羊肉是他们食物的主要来源,若不吃肉,他们难以生存。

    According to Buddhist teachings, one should not eat meat, because eating meat is killing and destroying LIFE, which is cruel and unmerciful. People who eat meat are not acceptable to Buddhism. Another view point is that the meat you eat may have come from your parents and relatives, because it may come from the animal that they happen to have been reincarnated into. Therefore, one should absolutely abstain from eating meat. Later Buddhist preachers proposed in light of the actual situation of followers living at home that "three clean meat" is eatable, namely, meat can be eatable if it does not come from the animal that is killed for you, that you do not want to kill, or that you have seen killed. That is to say, the meat that you eat does not come from the animal that is skilled specially for you, and you don't kill animals or see animals being killed. Tibetan Buddhism thinks that meat is eatable, because Tibetans are mostly herdsmen, for whom beef and mutton are their staple food, without which they can hardly survive.

    犹太教、基督教、天主教、东正教等吃肉,但不吃死了的动物肉,只吃宰杀的动物肉,对哪些动物的肉可吃,哪些动物的肉不吃,《圣经》旧约里有详细分类描述。

    Followers of Judaism, Christianity, Roman Catholicism, and orthodox church eat meat, but do not eat the meat of dead animals. They only eat the meat of killed animals. The Old Testament of the Bible has made a detailed classified description of the animals that can be eaten and the animals that cannot be eaten.


    伊斯兰教(回教)对吃肉更有严格的限制,这个限制根源来自《圣经》,与基督教所不同的是,穆斯林(伊斯兰教徒)坚决不吃猪肉,死肉,因为猪肉和死肉不洁净,会污秽人的灵性,此外,穆斯林宰杀动物时要念经,安慰动物 ,超度动物,这一点显示了穆斯林对动物的仁慈和关爱。
    Islamism has a strict restriction on the eating of meat. This restriction comes from the Bible. As are different from Christians, Muslims (followers of Islamism) do not eat pork and carrion, because pork and carrion are not clean and thus will pollute man's spiritual nature. Besides, before killing animals, Muslims will chant scriptures to console animals and release their souls from purgatory, which reflects the mercy and care of Muslims for animals.

    耶和华见证人在遵守《圣经》的基础上严格限制吃动物的血,认为肉不是生命,血才是生命,所以不吃血。


    On the basis of abiding by the Bible, the witnesses of Yahweh strictly forbid the eating of animal blood, regarding blood not meat as the LIFE of animals.

    生命禅院的观点是,生命是有层次之分的,低层生命为高层生命服务,通过自己的舍身服务,摆脱自己的困境,种下成就更高生命之因。
    Lifechanyuan holds the view point that LIFE is divided into different levels, LIFE at lower levels serves LIFE at higher levels, and by way of sacrifice LIFE can get over its plight and create condition for a higher realm.


    生命是互相服务的,是相互关联的,只有通过服务其他生命,才能成就更高层生命。
    LIFE should serve each other, LIFE is interrelated, and only by serving other forms of LIFE, can it attain a higher realm.


    所以,生命禅院不反对吃肉,也不提倡吃肉,吃不吃肉,完全根据当时的情况而定,各人根据自己的情况随缘而化,随性而动,随机而作。

    Therefore, Lifechanyuan neither objects to not supports the eating of meat. Whether one eats meat or not depends on the actual situation. Each individual can behave according to his habits and be flexible, act in accordance with our nature, and take advantage of the opportunities as they arise.

    生命禅院在吃肉的问题上有几个原则:1。不吃野生动物肉,这样做是为了保护生命链不被人为掐断;2。吃家畜家禽肉时最好学穆斯林的宰杀方法,给家禽家畜念经超度,在生命的尽头给予安慰,把其痛苦降低到最小限度;3 。让专业人员宰杀,普通大众不要自己动手,因为专业人员给动物的痛苦少,时间短,不会宰杀的人给动物的痛苦多,忍受痛苦的时间长;4。不吃狗肉,因为狗的灵性高,灵性越高,对吃其肉者灵性的损伤越大;5。吃专门喂 养用来提供肉食的牛羊猪鸡肉,若不是专门喂养用来提供肉食的家畜家禽肉最好不吃。家禽家畜与人是有感情的,只有精心喂养过的人能体验到,我见到过耕牛流泪哭泣,见过绵羊的悲伤,见过鸡对人的依恋情景,不忍心啊!6 。禅院草可以吃肉,但千万不要自己动手宰杀,不要去观看动物被宰杀的场景。

    Lifechanyuan has several principles with regard to the eating of meat:
    1. Do not eat the meat of wild animals, so that the chain of LIFE can be protected and will not be cut off.
    2. When killing livestock and poultry for food, we had better learn from the Muslim approach and chant scriptures to release their souls from purgatory, offering them consolation at the end of their LIFE and minimizing their sufferings.
    3. Let professionals do the killing, ordinary people do not do the killing, because professionals can minimize and shorten the sufferings of animals, while ordinary people are likely to bring a lot of pain to animals, and may prolong the sufferings.
    4. Do not eat dog flesh, because dogs have very high spiritual nature. The higher the spiritual nature of an animal, the greater the damage will be to the person who eats its meat.
    5. Eat the cattle, goats, pigs, and chickens that have been raised specially to provide meat, and one had better refrain from eating livestock and poultry that have not been raised for this purpose. There is affection between man and poultry and livestocks, which can only be felt by those who have taken great care in feeding them. I have seen cattle shedding tears, sheep looking sad, and chickens attaching to people. One cannot bear to kill those animals for which he has affection.
    6. Chanyuan Celestials can have meat but should not kill animals and do not witness the killing of animals.

    我说过:食菜者清,食肉者昏,食谷者智、食气者神。吃灵性越高的动物和植物肉对自己灵性的损伤越大。

    I have said, “eating vegetables makes one sober, eating meat makes one bemuddled, eating grains makes one wise, and eating qi makes one deity-like. The higher the spiritual nature of an animal and plant, the greater the damage will be to the person who eats them.

    被宰杀的动物肉已经不是生命,那只是一种能量而已,所以,吃肉是摄取能量,但是,任何一种食物都是有结构和信息的,吃了,就对自己有影响。带有禽流感病毒的家禽肉是肉,但吃了,自己就会被污染;巴豆是一种能量,吃 了,就要拉肚子;辣椒是一种能量,吃了,就火烧火燎,任何一种食物,或多或少、或好或怀,都会影响到我们。

    The meat of a killed animal is no longer LIFE but a kind of energy. Therefore, eating meat is only taking in the energy. However, any food has its structure and contains information, and one will be achiffected by the food he eats. One will be infected if he eats poultry contracted with bird flu, although poultry provides a kind of meat. Burging croton is a kind of energy, but one may suffer loose bowels after eating it. Chilli is a kind of energy, but one will feel unbearably hot after eating it. Any kind of food will have either more or less positive or negative effects on us.

    吃肉的危险性在于,我们吃了它的肉,它会影响我们,它的怨恨会转移到我们身上,它的禀赋天性就会在我们身上起作用,被宰杀时它的愤怒怨恨会释放出一种毒素存在于其肉中,我们吃了它,等于吃了毒素。穆斯林在宰杀前的 念经超度安慰就是把毒素降低到最小限度。每个人可以自己试验,当你非常怨恨愤怒时,你的脸色会变青,原因是体内释放了一种毒素。

    The danger of eating meat lies in the fact that we are affected by the meat we eat, the hate of the animal eaten by us will be transferred to our body, and the natural endowments and instinct of the eaten animal will have effect on us. When an animal is being killed, its indignation and resentment will cause it to release a toxin in its meat. We will absorb the toxin when we eat the meat. Muslims are trying to lower the content of toxins to the greatest extent when they chant scriptures and release their souls from the purgatory and console them before killing animals. You can make an experiment. When you are enraged, your face will turn pale and blue, because your anger has triggered the release of toxins in your body.


    吃什么肉,会变什么种,只是量的问题。我为什么一再强调我们吃饭时要心存感激?我们只有心存感激,才能转化食物中的毒素,改变食物的结构,以利于自己身体的健康。基督教徒每次进食前要对上帝祷告,要感谢上帝赐食物 ,深层原因就在于此。想吃时就吃,但要心存感激;不想吃时就不要吃,但不要以为自己没占到便宜。实在没办法时就吃,能不吃,就尽量不吃,或少吃。关于吃肉的更高妙法等大家了解了无相思维和浑沌思维时能掌握。最好的 办法是什么都不吃,"食气者神,"直接吸收"日月之精华,天地之灵气,"我已经给了大家开法眼的钥匙--意识、结构、能量。任何食物都是能量的转化,我们吃的目的主要是为了摄取其能量,那么,如果我们能直接摄取能量,为何还要吃呢?其实,吃肉不吃肉,与每个人生命的结构有关,羊为什么不吃肉?狼为什么吃肉?这是它们 生命的结构决定的。一个非常爱吃肉的人,如果修行修炼,会逐渐不想再吃肉,逐渐会厌恶肉,甚至会见肉就恶心呕吐,一想到肉就恶心难受,为什么?因为你生命的反物质结构变化了。不要假装,不要强行,要随其自然,核心 的问题要放在完美化生命的反物质结构上,这才是解决问题的关键所在,也是修炼的关键所在。饮食,主要的是一种思维习惯,如果反常思维,可以不饮食。当我们说要了却人间债务时,千万别忘了,我们还欠大自然的债,欠动 植物的债,为什么要敬畏生命,敬畏大自然?为什么要保护生命,保护大自然?目的是为了还债,不是为了道德。 当今时代,最好的还债办法是建设生命禅院,这道理非常深刻,需要自己去领会感悟。

    You are what you eat, and this is only a matter of degree.


    Why do I stress again and again that we should feel a sense of gratitude every time we have the meal? Because only with a feeling of gratitude can we convert the toxins in the food and change the structure of food to benefit our own health. Christians will make prayer to the god at each meal to thank him for the food he has given to people. And the deep level of reason for this is to convert the toxins.



    想吃时就吃,但要心存感激;不想吃时就不要吃,但不要以为自己没占到便宜。实在没办法时就吃,能不吃,就尽量不吃,或少吃。You can eat whenever you want to, but you must be grateful. Do not eat if do not want to, but do not feel that you have not gained advantage as a result. You can eat when you have to, but you may try your best to refrain from eating or try to eat as little as you can.

    关于吃肉的更高妙法等大家了解了无相思维和浑沌思维时能掌握。

    You can understand the more profound ways concerning meat eating after you have learned non-form thinking and holographic thinking.

    最好的办法是什么都不吃,"食气者神,"直接吸收"日月之精华,天地之灵气,"我已经给了大家开法眼的钥匙--意识、结构、能量。任何食物都是能量的转化,我们吃的目的主要是为了摄取其能量,那么,如果我们能直接摄取能量,为何还要吃呢?

    The best way is to eat nothing. “Eating qi is godlike”. We can directly assimilate the essence of the sun and the moon and the anima of the earth. I have already offered you the key to open the Dharma eye—consciousness, structure and energy. Any food is the conversion of energy. We eat mainly to absorb the energy contained in food. Then why do we still need to eat if we can absorb energy directly?

    其实,吃肉不吃肉,与每个人生命的结构有关,羊为什么不吃肉?狼为什么吃肉?这是它们生命的结构决定的。一个非常爱吃肉的人,如果修行修炼,会逐渐不想再吃肉,逐渐会厌恶肉,甚至会见肉就恶心呕吐,一想到肉就恶心 难受,为什么?因为你生命的反物质结构变化了。

    Actually whether one eats meat or not is related to the structure of everyone’s LIFE. Why doesn’t sheep eat meat? Why does wolf eat meat? This is determined by their different structure of LIFE. With self-cultivation and self-refinery, a person who likes meat very much will gradually lose interest in it, will grow averse to it, and may feel disgusted even at sight of it. Why? Because the nonmaterial structure of your LIFE has changed.

    不要假装,不要强行,要随其自然,核心的问题要放在完美化生命的反物质结构上,这才是解决问题的关键所在,也是修炼的关键所在。
    Do not pretend, do not force and push. Let’s conform to natural tendency. The core issue is to perfect the nonmaterial structure of LIFE, which is the key to solving problems and the key to self-refinery.



    饮食,主要的是一种思维习惯,如果反常思维,可以不饮食。
    Dieting is mainly a habit of thinking. If we have unconventional thinking, we can do away with dieting.


    当我们说要了却人间债务时,千万别忘了,我们还欠大自然的债,欠动植物的债,为什么要敬畏生命,敬畏大自然?为什么要保护生命,保护大自然?目的是为了还债,不是为了道德。 When we say that we should pay off our debts in the human world, be sure to bear in mind that we still have to pay back the debts to nature, and the debts to plants. Why should we hold LIFE and nature in awe and respect? Why should we protect LIFE and nature? The purpose is to pay back our debts, not for the sake of morality.

    当今时代,最好的还债办法是建设生命禅院,这道理非常深刻,需要自己去领会感悟。

    In modern times, the best way to pay off our debts is to build Lifechanyuan. The reason behind this is very profound, so we must strive to perceive and understand it.


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    3- Do not do immorality and even worst do not spread it?

    Easy to say but tooo difficult to carry out in some Christians.

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    Do as thou wilt is the whole of the law.
    All the above is all and only my opinion - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    Do as thou wilt is the whole of the law.
    The law of free will:
    Do what you will, but be aware of what you do.

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    Default Re: Forbidden things according to the word of God

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    Except the things forbidden in 10 commandments that most of us know them, I will share other important ones:

    1- Do not involve into magic (witchcraft) and do not use it.
    2- Do not eat the meat of the swine and the meat of dead animals. (The swine shares 98% of human DNA and maybe it's related to that)
    3- Do not drink blood. (First it look weird even to think about that, but it has been and still is being used in rituals and secret societies who have taken a wretched path)
    4- Do not do immorality and even worst do not spread it.
    5- Do not charge interest when lending money.
    6- About alcohol it says that it makes a lot more damage than good.
    7- Do not enter another house without the owner's permission.
    8- Do not preach what you do not do, even if it looks good.
    you know the commandment "thou shalt not kill" also means "though shalt not eat" because even plants are killed when you eat them

    It is often misinterpreted, the commandment properly translated in context is thou shalt not MURDER. You "may" kill in the defense of your life or that of another. You MAY NOT premeditate or plan a murder Of ANOTHER human.
    it seems moses trashed the first set of commandments, angry at signs of ancient star worship ..he commanded the levites to find and kill the 'offenders' ..the levites were rewarded for killing those following the old ways, making them sole custodians of the ark...he returned with another set including thou shalt not kill..they continued on for more routine commanded genocide of peoples not to his liking..do as i say not what i do
    the genocidal control freakery continues to this day

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