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    Default Re: England is headed for massive civil unrest. Increasingly people feel they have nothing to lose

    Maybe even the UK!

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    Default Re: England is headed for massive civil unrest. Increasingly people feel they have nothing to lose

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Maybe even the UK!
    John Lyndon said it best.


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    She is great, thanx for the link.
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    Default Re: England is headed for massive civil unrest. Increasingly people feel they have nothing to lose

    If people dont remove the controlled and abusive government, the abuse will not end. Chaos looks unavoidable to me as the power greedy will try to hold on like a gecko

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    Default Re: England is headed for massive civil unrest. Increasingly people feel they have nothing to lose

    I have no doubt that placing security tags on food in supermarkets is going to be on the increase, and civil unrest will be on the increase in general from here on too.
    That said for fairness the places in England that have been mentioned are areas with high 'past' crime levels (e.g. Wolverhampton 125 crimes per 1000 people), and Streatham (95 crimes per 1000 people) so they are the first areas to worsen...and implement these precautions.
    No doubt it will spread to other UK towns & areas as time passes, but we're not there just yet.

    I'll be honest having witnessed the everyday crimes freely committed in South London for the past two decades (not simply in recent years), I believe the crime figures there have always been down played and under-reported, so Streatham (one of the places reported for increased cheese crime ) and surrounding areas will probably increase quickly in the uptake of these security precautions.
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    Default Re: England is headed for massive civil unrest. Increasingly people feel they have nothing to lose

    Quote Posted by Jambo (here)
    I have no doubt that placing security tags on food in supermarkets is going to be on the increase, and civil unrest will be on the increase in general from here on too.
    From what I saw from the two covid years I spent on the shop floor, that won't make any difference. You can buy devices on Ebay for removing the alcohol security tags, the wire tags they just cut off, and the sticky ones they peel off. I found loads of security tags dumped behind other produce, especially around Valentine's Day, Easter and Christmas. People also pick up something like a sandwich or a muffin, eat it round the store and dump the crumb-laden wrapper. This is a well-off area too, I can't imagine what it's like in inner cities.

    The amateurs will get caught, but the pros will continue to get away with it. That cuts into supermarkets' profits and we all end up with higher prices.

    I'm with you on your comment; yes, nicking will be on the increase, as will civil unrest.

    Edit with a PS - I saw two women walking out of the store last week with a large bag (and I mean really large), with a load of kids' toys poking out of it. Two staff ran after them telling them to pay for them, and they said they were going to pay at the kiosk. They were ordered over to the tills but wouldn't budge so the staff took the bag to the tills. They stood there complaining loudly but when the staff were out of sight they scarpered!
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    Default Re: England is headed for massive civil unrest. Increasingly people feel they have nothing to lose

    I like Katie and often enjoy her rants, but I feel it'll take far more than security tags on cheese, food and energy price hikes etc, to get the UK collective off their backsides and onto the streets. I really feel we have become so dumbed down as a nation that it wont happen. The trouble is that we don't have a collective national identity to rally behind - like France, for example, who have 'fighting back' in their DNA, thanks to their historical hatred and demolition of the ruling classes, to name just one nation. Our govt has (deliberately) allowed mass immigration into our country for many years and this has the effect of diluting any sense of National Unity. The incomers - millions of them, are hardly going to bite the hand that feeds them are they?

    No, I feel it will not happen until a substantial portion of us come to realise that... after they've taken everything away (our homes, bank savings, via their Bail-Ins, frozen our bank accounts because we aren't 'good' citizens, to name many of the things they will do to us, via the coming Chinese style communist system) that we will have absolutely nothing left to lose. Then - just watch a traumatised (not simply pissed off) populace take to the streets. When people realise they have nothing left to lose, they come to know a sense of freedom and liberation that is incredibly empowering. That wont happen just yet, but it's on the cards.

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    Just pray for UK.

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    Default Re: England is headed for massive civil unrest. Increasingly people feel they have nothing to lose

    Come on people, get a grip. The outgoing government has removed the UK from the evil influence of the ‘deep state’ (B. Johnson), aka the EU. Isn’t that what many on this forum wanted?


    Or had you forgotten the principle of projection? Johnson for one is very good at avoiding responsibility by blaming others for his own shortcomings. This is how he does it: he appropriates and confiscates your ideas; they become his, and the people who should be in opposition either end up following him or they are shamed into disowning their own positions. This is a whole new take on English hypocrisy. It has happened in the field of politics and economics, and now in the field of alternative ‘research’. You end up with bad guys against bad guys, and then where do you stand? If you have any sense, you stand well away from, or above, the entire business.


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    As an Englishman, I'm following Bill's advice from about a month back that if there is a thread you are interested in... then "bump" it.
    And this thread is about England.

    My favourite posts are... in order, Bill Ryan (a kind of online mentor in a way to many, who probably wishes he wasn't, and that individuals just thought for themselves), Ewan (simply because I've found myself agreeing with 100% of his words), Mashika (not around as she's convalescing), & RunningDear.

    But I still want to hear any comments about my homeland, England.
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    Default Re: England is headed for massive civil unrest. Increasingly people feel they have nothing to lose

    Its hard to make the English to kick off but they're going in the right direction. Edit add: and typically the rest of the UK


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    Quote Posted by Matthew (here)
    Its hard to make the English to kick off but they're going in the right direction. Edit add: and typically the rest of the UK

    Yep, I'd love if everyone "kicked off", to remind those in power that they are representatives of the publics' wishes, not their own.
    I wish we would all protest.

    I often look at the French with total envy, as they always have the guts to protest in the streets.

    I guess it only takes a few to protest to provide the spirit for others to follow.

    “Disobedience is the true foundation of liberty. The obedient must be slaves.”
    ― Henry David Thoreau

    I've always believed that we are born into this world as blank slates, programmed by the words & actions of the societies we happen to live in.
    Somehow as someone born in England, I look upon the Country and believe it's "uncivilised" to dare to protest.
    Where the heck did that notion come from!? It is slave like mentality... yet I continue to follow it.

    I like to believe I am a free thinker, as all my life I seem to disagree with most of society, yet protesting is the one line in the sand I find hard to cross.
    Gosh what an idiot... when I know it is wrong at this point to kowtow to everything going on, but can't break free of that mentality.
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    Quote Posted by Jambo (here)
    Yep, I'd love if everyone "kicked off", to remind those in power that they are representatives of the publics' wishes, not their own.
    I wish we would all protest.

    I often look at the French with total envy, as they always have the guts to protest in the streets.
    I guess it only takes a few to protest to provide the spirit for others to follow.

    “Disobedience is the true foundation of liberty. The obedient must be slaves.”
    ― Henry David Thoreau

    I've always believed that we are born into this world as blank slates, programmed by the words & actions of the societies we happen to live in.
    Somehow as someone born in England, I look upon the Country and believe it's "uncivilised" to dare to protest.
    Where the heck did that notion come from!? It is slave like mentality... yet I continue to follow it.
    Having had an interest in what happens across the Channel, and having lived in Italy for a while, I have come to the conclusion that Britons are a lot more dumbed-down. Of course the French and Italians do take an interest in celebs and popular culture, but they are also more interested in politics and current affairs than the British generally are. Celebrity culture has taken a far greater hold on the populace here.

    However, I did take heart at following the huge Corona protests in British cities, they did us proud. All is not lost.

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