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    Default Hal Puthoff paper | Ultraterrestrial models - Journal of Cosmology, Vol. 29, No. 1, pp. 20001 - 20016

    Source link: https://thejournalofcosmology.com/Puthoff.pdf
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    Under consideration in this paper are two seminal statements and their concomitants, currently unknown, as follows:
    1. There is an unidentified phenomenon interacting with the current human population on Earth;
    2. It is currently unknown whether the phenomenon is exclusively extraterrestrial, extradimensional, crypto-terrestrial, demonic/djinn, proto/ancient human, time-travelers, etc., or some combination or mutation of any or all of these. However, it appears highly likely that the phenomenon per se is not constituted exclusively of members of the current human population.
    In this paper we address the above under the overarching theme Ultraterrestrials in order to develop a template to be matched against data at
    hand and that may be procured in the future.
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    “If a man does not keep pace with [fall into line with] his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away.” - Thoreau

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    Default Re: Hal Puthoff paper | Ultraterrestrial models - Journal of Cosmology, Vol. 29, No. 1, pp. 20001 - 20016

    Excellent. Here it is, embedded:

    https://thejournalofcosmology.com/Puthoff.pdf


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    Default Re: Hal Puthoff paper | Ultraterrestrial models - Journal of Cosmology, Vol. 29, No. 1, pp. 20001 - 20016

    Wow, thanks. It is not clear when this was written but given the UAP term used it would seem relatively recent? Why might this paper have been released now- divert attention away from the current mess as usual?

    I wonder if his recommendation to put one of the main hypotheses on the table and invest heavily in research to gather evidence has been implemented. The ultraterrestrial hypothesis seems especially recommended for in depth investigation. Either governments are already doing this research and have results that we don't know about, or they are not doing it which would raise questions as to why, given a way forward seems quite clear from this paper.

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    Default Re: Hal Puthoff paper | Ultraterrestrial models - Journal of Cosmology, Vol. 29, No. 1, pp. 20001 - 20016

    I read Hal Puthoff's apparent republishing of his 2016 "Ultraterrestrial Models" , I think that the concept is comprehensive or inclusive of the "Extraterrestrial-Non Human" term.

    Puthoff recognizes a multitude of possibilities that may all be true or perhaps some of them can combine. I understood that for Puthoff "ultraterrestrial" is an overall term that includes many hypotheses beyond the simple Extraterrestrial Hypothesis of occasional physical visitors. For example, the stranded gods and/or colonizing ET hypothesis, the isolated (advanced) humans hypothesis, the inter dimensional hypothesis and/or time traveling hypothesis of beings capable of intruding in our spacetime frame, and other hypotheses not necessarily eliminating the extraterrestrial hypothesis, etc. At the end of his article, Puthoff reminds us that the answer may include a "both-and" approach rather than an "either-or" one.

    The question is HOW could all these approaches be compatible? That would require something that has been seldom used, the search for TRANS Ontological connections. Stephen Greer mentioned that the more advanced craft use a "transdimensional' science, coming out of spacetime and reconfiguring themselves in the non-physical in order to re-materialize in a specific physical state of spacetime coordinates. I agree with this and have been trying to develop theoretical concepts around it.

    This comprehensive approach goes hand in hand with today's ufology moving beyond an exclusive "nuts & bolts" approach (that mostly dismissed the more 'romantic' contactee / experiencer approach), including meaningful, consciousness-related phenomena. Moving from the exclusiveness of external observations for the "what" and "how" to the "who" and "why". But both aspects don't have to exclude each other, but rather, complement.

    The next steps in ufology have to do with overcoming the taboo against interactions which includes consciousness, the intersection of the physical with the non-physical, and how multiple levels of physical reality and associated time frames may (at least temporarily) combine.

    I don't know if MUFON's Board of Directors recent apparent countermove to avoid being associated with the research of 'paranormal phenomena' is a good move. They have, apparently, decided to allow MUFON investigators to mention that such phenomena do associate with specific UFO-related cases when the case merits it but they will probably do nothing more than simply mention it.

    However, what if UFO intelligence wants to communicate via electronic voice phenomena or perhaps telepathy or using someone's unconscious mediumship? Will MUFON avoid the possibility of finding out what may UAP intelligences think and be like after possibly establishing an interpersonal relationship? From an Integral Theory approach to UFO research the subjective and intersubjective need to be included. In my view, this is especially so when we deal with multiple levels of reality capable of at least - temporarily - combining or interacting.

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    Default Re: Hal Puthoff paper | Ultraterrestrial models - Journal of Cosmology, Vol. 29, No. 1, pp. 20001 - 20016

    • The Physics of UFOs: Eric Weinstein + Hal Puthoff:

    Eric Weinstein is a Managing Director at Thiel Capital, creator of geometric unity, a unified theory in physics, and the intellectual dark web, a loose coalition of intellectuals dedicated to free thought. Hal Puthoff is former CIA, NSA and AATIP (the government’s official UFO investigation program). In the 70’s, he oversaw Stargate: the government’s psychic spy program at Stanford Research Institute. In this conversation, we discuss the physics of UFO’s, private aerospace as the keepers of fundamental science and Hal’s experience with parapsychology.
    No need to follow anyone, only consider broadening (y)our horizon of possibilities ...

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    Default Re: Hal Puthoff paper | Ultraterrestrial models - Journal of Cosmology, Vol. 29, No. 1, pp. 20001 - 20016

    Thanks Exomatrix. I'm watching the above video while reading the comments in Bill's Blanket Mind Control thread, and I'm thinking there could be a connection. But then I guess it's all connected in some way.

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    Default Re: Hal Puthoff paper | Ultraterrestrial models - Journal of Cosmology, Vol. 29, No. 1, pp. 20001 - 20016

    I think the most telling thing here is the use of the word "Ultraterrestrial", which was coined by the maverick researcher and author John Keel, a man that ufology tried to forget.

    John Keel pushed the boundaries of ufology way beyond where most were, and in some cases still are; either too afraid or to ignorant to go, and all these years later we haven't moved forward one thousandth of an inch beyond his work

    At least this is asking the right questions for once by someone with the intelligence & life experience to do so

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