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    The 5 source

    I sure hope all these reports are trustworthy, without a motive to lie? I don't doubt Trump visited Ep Island. However I don't believe he is a pedo. it is possible to visit a place and not partake in an an illegal act, is it not ? I have been around drug users and didnt use.
    And by the way, I have a love for younger women as well. NOT OF AN ILLEGAL AGE.

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    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    Did anyone ever hear of keep your friends close and you enemies closer? Does anyone have any idea the mine field he has to walk thru?

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    RGRAY 222 Thank you! David Icke can kiss my arse. Let him step up and find out.

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    i agree with Nigel Farrage, Trump is the bravest man he ever met!
    Good post and points made... just snipped three out to comment...

    It has to be said that there's a big difference between being a political analyst and commentator (Icke) and being a politician with powerful and extremely dangerous enemies around you on a day to day basis... (Trump)

    Trump was at more of a disadvantage than others getting into the top job because he came from nowhere and had never taken political office before at any level.... the President can only serve for 2 terms while everyone else can go on and on for many decades if they play their cards right and can then live a lucrative life as a professional politician - so Trump had to step into a world where all the players - in all the institutions, not just the House or Senate, have had plenty of time to form alliances and build up their power base and play all the games that are played with all the billions/trillions of dollars sloshing around... the lack of term limits is a death knell for democracy .... they should all just have two terms and actually SERVE the people rather than serve their own careers and finances... (this goes for all representative democracies IMO - and Democratic Republics.. )

    One has to be realistic about what it must be like trying to do the job of president with all the crap and disrespect Trump has had to endure 24/7.... the PSYOP against him has been going on relentlessly for years and yes there are serious things he has fallen down on but I suppose he's picking his battles..... and basically trying to survive to fight (for America) another day...
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    The 5 source

    I sure hope all these reports are trustworthy, without a motive to lie? I don't doubt Trump visited Ep Island. However I don't believe he is a pedo. it is possible to visit a place and not partake in an an illegal act, is it not ? I have been around drug users and didnt use.
    And by the way, I have a love for younger women as well. NOT OF AN ILLEGAL AGE.
    they pertain to the topic ... i cannot verify YouTube videos
    but read the texts ... can a casino owner [casinos used for $ laundering] investigated for his Russian mob ties be trusted to clean corruption?
    there is more on my thread https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...29#post1513329
    also watching the youtubes wan't my research on trump, it was from sept - the jan 20 inauguration.
    i researched his whole life.
    ive worked in film in LA and asked about BIFF which was verified.
    i cross - reference everything i do i have to i'm published in non-fiction and intelligence analysis.
    [big brother, we're watching you]

    so some of those YouTubeS are very accurate perhaps not all, as far as Epstein goes Trump was too close for comfort, he associated closely with Epstein from casino days till the scandal/arrest THIS IS INDISPUTABLE ...
    i don't accuse him of anything but his association with Hillary is fake as portrayed by media and the campaign
    they are almost as close as a married couple with all the trauma/drama/baggage it comes with.

    I have a thread on another forum titles POLITICS IS FOR STUPID PEOPLE so you can see 1'm not too political except as an intelligence operations analyst.
    [i think i dropped more on the linked thread]

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    Trump BROKE IN to her emails using Russian Mafia contacts (from money Laundering days in Casino) which is the digital version of Richard Nixon's break-in to democratic headquarters! Now he cries foul; that FBI broke into HIS Mar a Lago Mansion = Hypocrisy ?
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    7he5 source, your name is a tongue twister for a dyslexic. lol

    you sound like a smart person. Hey what do I know? What does anyone really know except what they heard from others unless they were a direct witness to the event. and even then there is personal interpretation.

    i look at the results. we had energy independence, no initiated wars, a border under control, a good market , low gas prices and he went after pharma drug prices among other things.

    it's a bitch of a job, thats why the best and brightest don't go near it. Ill take what i refer to as, " the evil of the two lessors"

    thanks bud
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    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    7he5 source, your name is a tongue twister for a dyslexic. lol

    you sound like a smart person. Hey what do I know? What does anyone really know except what they heard from others unless they were a direct witness to the event. and even then there is personal interpretation.

    i look at the results. we had energy independence, no initiated wars, a border under control, a good market , low gas prices and he went after pharma drug prices among other things.

    it's a bitch of a job, thats why the best and brightest don't go near it. Ill take what i refer to as, " the evil of the two lessors"

    thanks bud
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    There were "3" USA parties.
    I know what I personally experience that includes [often] getting on a plane and flying into the event location = boots on ground.
    Please don't call me bud.
    WE also know things when they are in context of a chronological order of events, so someone watching for 50 years [closely] will be able to assemble a big picture better that someone without background or short memory.
    These ppl operate under pretext of "There's a sucker born every minute" [= born yesterday] playing/preying on lack of knowledge and short memory, and a lust for "instant gratification".
    The spooks attempted to recruit me for several reasons, 1 being photographic memory.
    There are no lesser evils! All these supposed competitors for elected office [fake] are working as a unit, any separation is a veil.
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    Alex Jones and Mike Adams criticize Trump's promotion of the mrna va. Not exactly the behaviour of someone who wants to overthrow the deep state

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/aNZJ4F4derD3//

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    please call me, irresponsible...


    and uncle joe? you're on board with the Joe Hunter con? can you fill me in on these people now that you have trashed Trump?

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    The 5 source

    I sure hope all these reports are trustworthy, without a motive to lie? I don't doubt Trump visited Ep Island. However I don't believe he is a pedo. it is possible to visit a place and not partake in an an illegal act, is it not ? I have been around drug users and didnt use.
    And by the way, I have a love for younger women as well. NOT OF AN ILLEGAL AGE.
    Some people are trying to equate teen prostitution with pedophilia, but it's not. And I agree, 18 is plenty young, can't see someone going for 16 year olds.

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    Tom Kat What are the legalities? when can u buy beer? when can u drive? when can you have sex? when can you get drafted and take a bullet?
    These are what we go by, laws , regardless of moral views

    My last girl friend who I loved dearly was 35 years younger than me. We got along wonderfully, and after 8 great years life took us in different directions .

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    Tom Kat What are the legalities? when can u buy beer? when can u drive? when can you have sex? when can you get drafted and take a bullet?
    These are what we go by, laws , regardless of moral views

    My last girl friend who I loved dearly was 35 years younger than me. We got along wonderfully, and after 8 great years life took us in different directions .
    What legalities are you talking about? 18 is the age of consent in the US. Not sure about on Epstein Island.

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    Yes Tom thats all I was saying. There are laws, what is legal.
    I dont know anything about what went on regarding Epstein Island.

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    (Anyone whose mentor was the original swamp creature himself, Roy Kohn, is sure to have developed some of the same traits.
    Sure, Trump looks like the lesser of two evils, though I hope DeSantis is the GOP candidate instead, which at least would help reduce the division andbring some youth and strength and real purpose to the office of POTUS.
    But to make Trump out to be such a hero is a good indicator of what a terrible crossroads we are in at this point.
    It's like the Stockholm Syndrome enmasse.
    If he does get arrested, it may be karmic payback for his backing of the persection of Assange, of Gain of Function, for his Warp Speed policy and more, though I don't see how the Dems could make it stick without risking the same thing happening to someone on the Dem side, and I think they're smart enought to see that much, at least.
    Anyway, it's good to hear the perspective of a young guy like AnOmaly for a change, to get some idea of how jaded by comparison we in the older generations must seem from a younger perspective .
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    I am just going to post this one reply and that'll be it for me. But I truly feel compelled, from the heart, to say the following:

    First, I want to make it clear that I have never, ever voted for a U.S. president. I am registered to vote, but I have never voted. I haven't voted because I simply do not believe in the two-party system. I do believe in freedom of speech, but that just does not exist within our own political parties. Should any one individual within either one of our two parties disagree with the majority, their lives are made a living hell. There IS NO true freedom of speech within our own political party system, so how can there truly be freedom of speech anywhere else in this country. I have known, and accepted this, since I was just 18 years old. I was thoroughly chastised by a good friend of mine when in high school as she just could not understand just why I would not exercise my right to vote. I tried to explain to her that even back then, I realized that our government system(s), including our political factions, are corrupted to the core, and therefore, I would not accept 'authority' from any one individual in these systems, over me and my life. And I have adhered to this mindset throughout my life.

    So having said that, I also told a friend, who recently passed away, that to ME, the 'choice' (and I use that term loosely when applied herein) between voting for Biden or Trump was akin to asking me to vote for Hitler or Satan. Either one was completely distasteful to me.

    I have stated, years ago, on this forum, on a couple of occasions, what my family background is with government (and I will not go into that yet again, here). But one of you, who shall remain nameless, knows my story. In full. And I assure you, that everything I have shared with you is the truth. Yet, if you no longer accept or believe what I have shared with you, that is entirely up to you. It matters not whether you no longer believe, or accept, any or some, as to what I shared. I bear no grudge with you, either way.

    So having said the above, I decided to listen to what David Icke had to say, above. IMHO, he is absolutely correct. I am SO glad I took the time to listen to him; during his very eloquent speech, the lessons he provides with all of this are precisely those that I have had to learn, and to accept, in my own life, when dealing with a certain individual as well. It has not been easy. I love her and I always will. But I have made many, many mistakes with her and have allowed her to manipulate and control me because I wanted to BELIEVE HER when she says certain things to me. This is starting to get very personal, so I will stop.

    But I would beg of you all to not only view what David Icke has to say about Trump, but please, please, please, just view, if you've not already, at least a couple of the J6 hearings. Set aside your own political belief systems (not easy to do I know) and LISTEN. I have viewed every single one of those hearings and intend on purchasing the DVD set of those hearings when they become available. To ME, I truly believe that every single voting age American should view these hearings. THEN form your opinion about Trump, after. And that would be fair.

    Lest we get on the topic of Liz Cheney/Adam Kinzinger: I don't trust either one of them - they're politicians. BUT IN THIS ONE INSTANCE, LIZ CHENEY AND KINZINGER ARE RIGHT ON THE MARK imho.

    Trump is not at all who and what he seems. As Icke so eloquently states, Trump's mission is NOT to drain the swam - HE IS SWIMMING IN IT.

    I know this message will anger perhaps a good many folks over here and I truly don't mean to anger any of you. But the fact remains that there are many 'truths' down here (earth) that are not at all pleasant. "This World is not as it seems,' my Dad used to tell me. He also used to say, "Timing is everything," and "Things will happen when you least expect it."

    He was a very, very wise man. I loved him dearly. He knew things about this world on a very deep level that most people at the time he said these things to me would not have understood (on a picnic table long ago for over three hours - broke his NDA in part to speak to me which I will be forever grateful for).

    Anyway - I will get off my soapbox now. Sorry about that. But certain things, I feel, just needed to be said.

    BAM
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    Good to see you again, BAM🤗

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    Quote Posted by Bayareamom (here)
    But I would beg of you all to not only view what David Icke has to say about Trump, but please, please, please, just view, if you've not already, at least a couple of the J6 hearings. Set aside your own political belief systems (not easy to do I know) and LISTEN. I have viewed every single one of those hearings and intend on purchasing the DVD set of those hearings when they become available. To ME, I truly believe that every single voting age American should view these hearings. THEN form your opinion about Trump, after. And that would be fair.

    I find it rather paradoxical that you have such a deep distrust of the political system that you have never voted in a presidential election but have great confidence in the Jan 6th hearings to the point of buying the DVDs...

    I confess that I haven't watched any of the Jan 6th hearing stuff but I have heard it dismissed in different quarters as a Show Trial where it's basically rigged and only one side is allowed to be expressed -

    I too have never voted in a Presidential Election but that's because I'm not American - in the UK I'm a floating voter and try to find someone to vote for in local and national elections because even though the whole system is rotten and riddled with corruption.... what's the alternative?... basically a dictatorship of some kind... once in a while a vote makes something dramatic happen and I think the vote for Brexit in Britain and a vote for Trump in America were two such voting moments that changed things.... even though the backlash is strong and ongoing....
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    Quote Posted by Bayareamom (here)
    I am just going to post this one reply and that'll be it for me. But I truly feel compelled, from the heart, to say the following:

    First, I want to make it clear that I have never, ever voted for a U.S. president. I am registered to vote, but I have never voted. I haven't voted because I simply do not believe in the two-party system. I do believe in freedom of speech, but that just does not exist within our own political parties. Should any one individual within either one of our two parties disagree with the majority, their lives are made a living hell. There IS NO true freedom of speech within our own political party system, so how can there truly be freedom of speech anywhere else in this country. I have known, and accepted this, since I was just 18 years old. I was thoroughly chastised by a good friend of mine when in high school as she just could not understand just why I would not exercise my right to vote. I tried to explain to her that even back then, I realized that our government system(s), including our political factions, are corrupted to the core, and therefore, I would not accept 'authority' from any one individual in these systems, over me and my life. And I have adhered to this mindset throughout my life.

    So having said that, I also told a friend, who recently passed away, that to ME, the 'choice' (and I use that term loosely when applied herein) between voting for Biden or Trump was akin to asking me to vote for Hitler or Satan. Either one was completely distasteful to me.

    I have stated, years ago, on this forum, on a couple of occasions, what my family background is with government (and I will not go into that yet again, here). But one of you, who shall remain nameless, knows my story. In full. And I assure you, that everything I have shared with you is the truth. Yet, if you no longer accept or believe what I have shared with you, that is entirely up to you. It matters not whether you no longer believe, or accept, any or some, as to what I shared. I bear no grudge with you, either way.

    So having said the above, I decided to listen to what David Icke had to say, above. IMHO, he is absolutely correct. I am SO glad I took the time to listen to him; during his very eloquent speech, the lessons he provides with all of this are precisely those that I have had to learn, and to accept, in my own life, when dealing with a certain individual as well. It has not been easy. I love her and I always will. But I have made many, many mistakes with her and have allowed her to manipulate and control me because I wanted to BELIEVE HER when she says certain things to me. This is starting to get very personal, so I will stop.

    But I would beg of you all to not only view what David Icke has to say about Trump, but please, please, please, just view, if you've not already, at least a couple of the J6 hearings. Set aside your own political belief systems (not easy to do I know) and LISTEN. I have viewed every single one of those hearings and intend on purchasing the DVD set of those hearings when they become available. To ME, I truly believe that every single voting age American should view these hearings. THEN form your opinion about Trump, after. And that would be fair.

    Lest we get on the topic of Liz Cheney/Adam Kinzinger: I don't trust either one of them - they're politicians. BUT IN THIS ONE INSTANCE, LIZ CHENEY AND KINZINGER ARE RIGHT ON THE MARK imho.

    Trump is not at all who and what he seems. As Icke so eloquently states, Trump's mission is NOT to drain the swam - HE IS SWIMMING IN IT.

    I know this message will anger perhaps a good many folks over here and I truly don't mean to anger any of you. But the fact remains that there are many 'truths' down here (earth) that are not at all pleasant. "This World is not as it seems,' my Dad used to tell me. He also used to say, "Timing is everything," and "Things will happen when you least expect it."

    He was a very, very wise man. I loved him dearly. He knew things about this world on a very deep level that most people at the time he said these things to me would not have understood (on a picnic table long ago for over three hours - broke his NDA in part to speak to me which I will be forever grateful for).

    Anyway - I will get off my soapbox now. Sorry about that. But certain things, I feel, just needed to be said.

    BAM
    The Jan 6th hearings which I also watched completely were a joke! It is a kangeroo court where Trump didn't even get a defense! How you can support this, let alone buy the collection tells me you need your head examined quite seriously and I do not mean to attack but you have not one idea of what they have done here to think the way you are thinking! Icke is correct that Trump is from the same swamp as all the other critters but what stands out to me is how biased you are to favoring this abuse of Trump when I strongly suspect if the same treatment was done to the democrats you'd have a completely different take on the entire matter!! If Trump were the prez and he raided Biden's home I'd bet you'd be a completely different story on this!!
    The genius consistently stands out from the masses in that he unconsciously anticipates truths of which the population as a whole only later becomes conscious! Speech-circa 1937

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    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
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    I sure hope all these reports are trustworthy, without a motive to lie? I don't doubt Trump visited Ep Island. However I don't believe he is a pedo. it is possible to visit a place and not partake in an an illegal act, is it not ? I have been around drug users and didnt use.
    And by the way, I have a love for younger women as well. NOT OF AN ILLEGAL AGE.
    Epstien was looking and always on the hunt for another extortion to control someone fromt his or her own dirty laundry or deviant behaviour in private settings! Once he had that he controlled them! He never got that on Trump or we'd know about it. The other thing to me is that the people Epstein got dirt on are all being protected and Trump is not being protected which should obviously (you would think) awaken one to realize they never had anything on Donald J. Trump or they'd have used it for policital or diplomatic favors. Trump is clean or they'd have him by now after six years of attacks. So far all those that have attacked Trump from Alec Balwin to Cheney's daughter, the Bushes, McCainn's and more have all paid the price for tangling with the guy!! This will not change. What many miss is that Biden by his action here to disregard prez privelege means that when Trump gets back into the oval office come Nov he now has a green light to open the books on every past prez including Joe the dumb ass that opened the door to his own discovery!!
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    Quote Posted by Bayareamom (here)
    I am just going to post this one reply and that'll be it for me. But I truly feel compelled, from the heart, to say the following:

    First, I want to make it clear that I have never, ever voted for a U.S. president. I am registered to vote, but I have never voted. I haven't voted because I simply do not believe in the two-party system. I do believe in freedom of speech, but that just does not exist within our own political parties. Should any one individual within either one of our two parties disagree with the majority, their lives are made a living hell. There IS NO true freedom of speech within our own political party system, so how can there truly be freedom of speech anywhere else in this country. I have known, and accepted this, since I was just 18 years old. I was thoroughly chastised by a good friend of mine when in high school as she just could not understand just why I would not exercise my right to vote. I tried to explain to her that even back then, I realized that our government system(s), including our political factions, are corrupted to the core, and therefore, I would not accept 'authority' from any one individual in these systems, over me and my life. And I have adhered to this mindset throughout my life.

    So having said that, I also told a friend, who recently passed away, that to ME, the 'choice' (and I use that term loosely when applied herein) between voting for Biden or Trump was akin to asking me to vote for Hitler or Satan. Either one was completely distasteful to me.

    I have stated, years ago, on this forum, on a couple of occasions, what my family background is with government (and I will not go into that yet again, here). But one of you, who shall remain nameless, knows my story. In full. And I assure you, that everything I have shared with you is the truth. Yet, if you no longer accept or believe what I have shared with you, that is entirely up to you. It matters not whether you no longer believe, or accept, any or some, as to what I shared. I bear no grudge with you, either way.

    So having said the above, I decided to listen to what David Icke had to say, above. IMHO, he is absolutely correct. I am SO glad I took the time to listen to him; during his very eloquent speech, the lessons he provides with all of this are precisely those that I have had to learn, and to accept, in my own life, when dealing with a certain individual as well. It has not been easy. I love her and I always will. But I have made many, many mistakes with her and have allowed her to manipulate and control me because I wanted to BELIEVE HER when she says certain things to me. This is starting to get very personal, so I will stop.

    But I would beg of you all to not only view what David Icke has to say about Trump, but please, please, please, just view, if you've not already, at least a couple of the J6 hearings. Set aside your own political belief systems (not easy to do I know) and LISTEN. I have viewed every single one of those hearings and intend on purchasing the DVD set of those hearings when they become available. To ME, I truly believe that every single voting age American should view these hearings. THEN form your opinion about Trump, after. And that would be fair.

    Lest we get on the topic of Liz Cheney/Adam Kinzinger: I don't trust either one of them - they're politicians. BUT IN THIS ONE INSTANCE, LIZ CHENEY AND KINZINGER ARE RIGHT ON THE MARK imho.

    Trump is not at all who and what he seems. As Icke so eloquently states, Trump's mission is NOT to drain the swam - HE IS SWIMMING IN IT.

    I know this message will anger perhaps a good many folks over here and I truly don't mean to anger any of you. But the fact remains that there are many 'truths' down here (earth) that are not at all pleasant. "This World is not as it seems,' my Dad used to tell me. He also used to say, "Timing is everything," and "Things will happen when you least expect it."

    He was a very, very wise man. I loved him dearly. He knew things about this world on a very deep level that most people at the time he said these things to me would not have understood (on a picnic table long ago for over three hours - broke his NDA in part to speak to me which I will be forever grateful for).

    Anyway - I will get off my soapbox now. Sorry about that. But certain things, I feel, just needed to be said.

    BAM
    Thank you for sharing your heart-felt views. I respectfully disagree with a few of your specific points, but not with your overall perspective.

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    Thank you. I appreciate that.

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    Hi Ratsinger,

    With all due respect, these hearings are not LEGAL proceedings; they are simply a template within which to show the American people what transpired that day, why that occurred, how it occurred, etc. Again, this is not a court of law. As Liz Cheney has stated, it is NOT up to the J6 Committee to decide the legal ramifications as to all of whom were involved in the events that transpired that day. That will be left up to the DOJ, which is also conducting its own investigation into events that day.

    And yes - I absolutely support these hearings and have learned much.

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