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    Default Daria Dugina, Aleksandr Dugin's daughter, assassinated in Moscow

    If true (and I'm trying to get confirmation) - this is a BIG DEAL.

    https://www.rt.com/russia/561233-mos...r-blast-dugin/
    All the above is all and only my opinion - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    Default Re: Daria Dugina, Aleksandr Dugin's daughter, assassinated in Moscow

    It appears true... my Russian friends are telling me its all over the news there. Be ready, folks - this is truly a BIG DEAL.
    All the above is all and only my opinion - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    Default Re: Daria Dugina, Aleksandr Dugin's daughter, assassinated in Moscow

    From Britain's Daily Mail. I'll not copy the entire article, but the shrieking headline is enough.

    (My comment: Dugin isn't Russia's 'war mastermind' at all, nor is he all that close to Putin. But for sure, this is very significant.)
    Daughter of Ukraine war mastermind 'is blown to pieces in Moscow car bomb': Darya Dugin 'assassinated in attack meant for her father Alexander' – one of Putin's closest aides often dubbed the Russian leader's 'brain'

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    Default Re: Daria Dugina, Aleksandr Dugin's daughter, assassinated in Moscow

    Can't connect to the original link...

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    Default Re: Daria Dugina, Aleksandr Dugin's daughter, assassinated in Moscow

    Yet another G-d awful act of terrorism. What a sick, f’ed up act of cowardice.

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    Default Re: Daria Dugina, Aleksandr Dugin's daughter, assassinated in Moscow

    Quote Posted by Le Chat (here)
    Can't connect to the original link...
    That's because RT is censored in many countries.

    Here's their whole article:

    Car blast kills daughter of Russian philosopher Dugin – reports

    The victim is alleged to be 30yo Daria Dugina



    A powerful explosion ripped apart an SUV near Moscow on Saturday night, instantly killing its driver. According to preliminary reports, the victim was identified as Daria Dugina, the daughter of controversial Russian thinker Alexander Dugin, who is sometimes painted in the West as one of the Kremlin’s “chief ideological masterminds.”

    The incident took place on a highway some 20 kilometers west of Moscow around 21:45 local time, with witnesses claiming that the blast rocked the vehicle right in the middle of the roads, scattering debris all around.

    The car then reportedly crashed into a fence, fully engulfed in flames, according to photos and videos from the scene.

    Emergency services working at the scene said at least one person was inside the car and was instantly killed in the blast, a female whose body was recovered burned beyond recognition. However, multiple Russian telegram channels and media sources alleged that the woman inside the vehicle was a 30yo Daria Dugina.

    https://t.me/breakingmash/37549


    Authorities have yet to confirm the identity of the victim, but Alexander Dugin was spotted at the scene soon after the incident, visibly shocked according to several videos circulating on social media.

    https://t.me/breakingmash/37551


    Daria Dugina is a political commentator and daughter of Professor Aleksandr Dugin – a controversial philosopher known for his anti-Western, “neo-Eurasian” views, who has repeatedly been painted by Western media as one of the driving forces behind President Vladimir Putin’s foreign policy. In recent months, CBS dubbed him “the far-right theorist behind Putin's plan” while while the Washington Post oped called him a “far-right mystical writer who helped shape Putin’s view of Russia.”

    In Russia, however, the supposed shadowy puppet master is largely considered to be a marginal figure with some of his views deemed too radical even by staunch nationalists. While he has served as an advisor to several politicians, Dugin never enjoyed official endorsement from the Kremlin. Back in 2014, he was sacked from his job at Moscow State University after critics interpreted his call to “kill, kill, kill” those behind massacres in Ukraine, such as the Odessa tragedy, as a call for a genocide of Ukrainians.

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    Default Re: Daria Dugina, Aleksandr Dugin's daughter, assassinated in Moscow

    A brief but significant comment from Citizen Free Press:
    Alexander Dugin was supposed to be in the vehicle that was bombed, but switched cars before this leg of the journey. His daughter Daria Dugina was killed. According to Steve Bannon, this is likely a CIA/Ukraine attack.


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    Default Re: Daria Dugina, Aleksandr Dugin's daughter, assassinated in Moscow

    And this is why those animals can't be reasoned with


    They feast on death and suffering, they love death, and make fun of the fallen, then they glorify their acts as "good" and "fair". This is no different than ISIS or similar groups


    How to deal with rabid animals? You don't reason with them, there is only putting them down or they will never stop harming other people


    There is no mind that can be reasoned with behind those brutal animals, there is is only rabid beasts acting on impulse, such a beast can't be reasoned with, ever

    The Ukrainians are behind this, but also the enablers and puppeters from the west, all of this is happening because of them, and they too, are brutal mindless beasts that need to be put down, the time is already past beyond any cure for such a stupid beast to come back to any human reasoning, they all just know to solve everything by causing death and suffering, that's the reality of it all

    She has passed, but there are many who will not forgive or forget. This is not something that will be forgotten
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    Default Re: Daria Dugina, Aleksandr Dugin's daughter, assassinated in Moscow

    I just hope and trust that those actually responsible are held to account and that more innocent lives are not sacrificed in the zeal of that effort.

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    Default Re: Daria Dugina, Aleksandr Dugin's daughter, assassinated in Moscow

    Quote Posted by Mashika (here)

    She has passed, but there are many who will not forgive or forget. This is not something that will be forgotten
    It won't be.

    When it's discovered exactly who's behind this, the Russians will act. But it's all very dangerous: we know the US wants to escalate the war, and something like this is close to the ultimate provocation... I'd imagine almost everyone in Moscow will be demanding retaliation.

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    Default Re: Daria Dugina, Aleksandr Dugin's daughter, assassinated in Moscow

    His Wikipedia page claims he was Putin's brain as stated in a pervious post. Read the second quote about Dugin and his daughter. Her name anagrams to Guardian ID. The former head of DARPA Regina E. Dungan name anagrams to Guardian Gene. Douglas Rain who played the voice of the HAL-9000 name anagrams to Guardian Sol & Iguana Lords.


    Quote Considered by some in the West to be "Putin's brain,"[13] or "Putin's philosopher," Dugin is believed by some to have laid the ideological groundwork for the Russian invasion of Ukraine in 2022[14][15] as part of his advocacy for Ukraine becoming "a purely administrative sector of the Russian centralized state", which he refers to as Novorossiya.[16]
    Quote Sanctions

    On 11 March 2015, the United States Department of the Treasury added Dugin to its list of Russian citizens who are sanctioned as a result of their involvement in the Ukrainian crisis; his Eurasian Youth Union was targeted too.[124] In June 2015, Canada added Dugin to its list of sanctioned individuals.[125]

    On 3 March 2022 the United States Department of the Treasury sanctioned the outlet Geopolitika [ru] due to its alleged control by Dugin. Additionally, the United States Department of the Treasury sanctioned Dugin's daughter Darya Aleksandrovna Dugina on the basis of her work as chief editor of the website United World International (UWI). According to the United States Department of the Treasury, UWI was developed as part of Project Lakhta, owned by Yevgeny Prigozhin, who is held responsible for part of the Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections.[126][127]
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    Default Re: Daria Dugina, Aleksandr Dugin's daughter, assassinated in Moscow

    Some comments (based on information from reasonably informed sources).

    Dugin was not a protected individual (and didn't move around with security). If they wanted to take him out, it would have been easy.

    We all know the level of sophistication played by players on all sides. Along those lines, there are hardliners in Russia that do not believe Putin has gone far enough, fast enough. They also know the symbolic significance of Dugin - especially to a significant segment of the Russian people. By martyring his daughter, you can be sure that Dugin will be pressuring Putin if Putin doesn't respond appropriately. The hawks will have Dugin's back. This puts Putin at minimal, on the spot and maximal, in danger.
    All the above is all and only my opinion - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    Quote Posted by Inversion (here)
    His Wikipedia page claims he was Putin's brain as stated in a pervious post. Read the second quote about Dugin and his daughter. Her name anagrams to Guardian Aid. The former head of DARPA Regina E. Dungan name anagrams to Guardian Gene.


    Quote Considered by some in the West to be "Putin's brain,"[13] or "Putin's philosopher," Dugin is believed by some to have laid the ideological groundwork for the Russian invasion of Ukraine in 2022[14][15] as part of his advocacy for Ukraine becoming "a purely administrative sector of the Russian centralized state", which he refers to as Novorossiya.[16]
    Quote Sanctions

    On 11 March 2015, the United States Department of the Treasury added Dugin to its list of Russian citizens who are sanctioned as a result of their involvement in the Ukrainian crisis; his Eurasian Youth Union was targeted too.[124] In June 2015, Canada added Dugin to its list of sanctioned individuals.[125]

    On 3 March 2022 the United States Department of the Treasury sanctioned the outlet Geopolitika [ru] due to its alleged control by Dugin. Additionally, the United States Department of the Treasury sanctioned Dugin's daughter Darya Aleksandrovna Dugina on the basis of her work as chief editor of the website United World International (UWI). According to the United States Department of the Treasury, UWI was developed as part of Project Lakhta, owned by Yevgeny Prigozhin, who is held responsible for part of the Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections.[126][127]

    Whatever the west says it always comes with a great/giant dosis of BS. They don't understand or have any real clue of what goes on in Russia, they just assume things based on stupidity and old obsolete understandings of the USSR times. This has been proven and demonstrated over and over int he past years and specially the past months

    Ukraine equaling as Novorossiya is priceless, only an uneducated westerner would assume such, Novorossiya is a completely different concept and region, and it was not, and will never will meant to be the entirety of Ukraine, that's just not how things are


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    https://t.me/rentv_news/60512

    Quote "Ukrainian terrorists" probably had a hand in blowing up the car of the daughter of philosopher Alexander Dugin, Darya, Vladimir Rogov, a member of the main council of the military-civilian administration of the Zaporozhye region, said on the Telegram channel.

    “I have no doubt that this was done by the UGIL terrorists — the Ukrainian state of Ivano-Frankivsk and Lvov. The target could be both Dasha and her father, Alexander Dugin,” Rogov said.

    He stressed that Daria Dugina fought desperately against fascism in Ukraine and its "Anglo-Saxon masters."
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    Default Re: Daria Dugina, Aleksandr Dugin's daughter, assassinated in Moscow

    Quote Posted by Inversion (here)
    His Wikipedia page claims...
    All that can be totally ignored.
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    From Britain's Daily Mail. I'll not copy the entire article, but the shrieking headline is enough.

    (My comment: Dugin isn't Russia's 'war mastermind' at all, nor is he all that close to Putin. But for sure, this is very significant.)
    Daughter of Ukraine war mastermind 'is blown to pieces in Moscow car bomb': Darya Dugin 'assassinated in attack meant for her father Alexander' – one of Putin's closest aides often dubbed the Russian leader's 'brain'
    One of my sources (one that I take seriously) has a similar view in regard to the relationship (Putin/Dugin) held by Putin. Reflecting essentially the same view as Bill expressed in the above quote - "Dugin isn't Russia's 'war mastermind' at all, nor is he all that close to Putin."
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    Default Re: Daria Dugina, Aleksandr Dugin's daughter, assassinated in Moscow

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    Some comments (based on information from reasonably informed sources).

    Dugin was not a protected individual (and didn't move around with security). If they wanted to take him out, it would have been easy.

    We all know the level of sophistication played by players on all sides. Along those lines, there are hardliners in Russia that do not believe Putin has gone far enough, fast enough. They also know the symbolic significance of Dugin - especially to a significant segment of the Russian people. By martyring his daughter, you can be sure that Dugin will be pressuring Putin if Putin doesn't respond appropriately. The hawks will have Dugin's back. This puts Putin at minimal, on the spot and maximal, in danger.

    The possibility always exists of playing that game, but it's a 'playing with fire' one, as not everyone will be happy to learn it was done with that purpose, it could very easily turn around for the game starters, and there is a very big group of people who are not playing along or would not at all play along with the 'martyring' game just to push an agenda forward


    But yes, it's been a while since a certain group has been losing patience with the slow progress or the 'not hard enough' stance of Putin
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    Default Re: Daria Dugina, Aleksandr Dugin's daughter, assassinated in Moscow

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    Quote Posted by Inversion (here)
    His Wikipedia page claims...
    Well, all that can be totally ignored.
    Exactly! (when will people wake up when it comes to this 'controlled propaganda' website)?

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    Quote Posted by Mashika (here)
    Quote Posted by Chester (here)
    Some comments (based on information from reasonably informed sources).

    Dugin was not a protected individual (and didn't move around with security). If they wanted to take him out, it would have been easy.

    We all know the level of sophistication played by players on all sides. Along those lines, there are hardliners in Russia that do not believe Putin has gone far enough, fast enough. They also know the symbolic significance of Dugin - especially to a significant segment of the Russian people. By martyring his daughter, you can be sure that Dugin will be pressuring Putin if Putin doesn't respond appropriately. The hawks will have Dugin's back. This puts Putin at minimal, on the spot and maximal, in danger.

    The possibility always exists of playing that game, but it's a 'playing with fire' one, as not everyone will be happy to learn it was done with that purpose, it could very easily turn around for the game starters, and there is a very big group of people who are not playing along or would not at all play along with the 'martyring' game just to push an agenda forward


    But yes, it's been a while since a certain group has been losing patience with the slow progress or the 'not hard enough' stance of Putin
    I should have clarified - the above scenario concerns me if the perps behind this are Ukraine (US/Nato). I strongly doubt it's an inside job false flag situation.

    The Russian hardliners are handed a great opportunity to escalate the war. Surely the US/UK/Anglosphere (and Zelensky) know this.
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    Default Re: Daria Dugina, Aleksandr Dugin's daughter, assassinated in Moscow

    By morning US time, Putin will have made an extremely strong statement. He'll promise a response, but will leave Ukraine and the US guessing about what the response will be. And that won't be rhetorical... there will absolutely be one.

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    • "Europe Is The Battlefield Between Two Worldviews" - Interview With Daria Dugina


    05.05.2022
    Daria Dugina
    Lorenzo Maria Pacini

    We interviewed, exclusively, Darya Dugina, philosopher graduated from Moscow State University, specialised in Neoplatonism, able political commentator and daughter of Professor Aleksandr Dugin. The interview was made originlly bilingual (italian and russian), in order to be diffused also to the Russian-speaking public.

    Daria, first of all thank you for accepting our interview. The ever-changing geopolitical situation is turning towards a new multipolar world order, which is in contrast to the new globalist world order, of the Great Reset, of the financial oligarchies and hidden power. Russia is currently the country leading the 'clash of civilisations': what do you think is Europe's role?

    Europe is a battlefield of two worldviews - globalist and anti-globalist. This is now evident in all countries. The French presidential elections were held recently and analysing them we can clearly see the existence of two blocs - one representing the people, the other the transnational elites. Le Pen, and with her Melanchon, were anti-globalisation in their programmes, the main goal of their campaigns was to increase the purchasing power of the French, and to strengthen the sovereignty of the French state (one could call this to some extent a Gaullist strategy in the case of Le Pen, and a non-aligned position in the case of Melanchon). Today, Europe is a political field subordinated to the dictatorship of American hegemony. Unfortunately, the European elites blindly follow the orders of the United States. But the crisis, which has already had a major impact on Europe, sufficiently shows the negative consequences of these policies - and that only on the economic side. There are many signs, voices and political manifestations of the alternative approach emerging before our eyes - there are forces in Europe that want multipolarity. These are the anti-globalist movements. They are the future of Europe, globalism and the EU elites are its past. Everything points to the 'decline of Europe' - growing tyranny was also highlighted by Spengler as a key feature of the end of 'culture', as were technocratic governments and the dominance of money as a value. The EU elites are pursuing a consistent policy of destroying European countries. However, the resistance that exists on the part of the peoples - the resistance to the death of their own cultures - must be kept in mind. It still has to show itself.

    In Italy, people were singing the praises of Russia and Putin until a few months ago; today, a large part of the population has sided with NATO and is pointing the finger at Moscow. Misinformation and widespread ignorance in political science have led to an alarming and dangerous climate of ideological hatred. Yet, Italy is the seat of the First Rome, it is the source of art, philosophy, science and beauty for centuries and centuries, but it seems to have dozed off and forgotten its own origins and greatness. How do you think an awakening of the Italic Logos and a return to the greatness of this people can take place?

    First of all, I think it is necessary to realise that the media propaganda system aims to strengthen American influence on the European continent. This, by the way, is often talked about in Italy. It is very important to understand that today the regime in Kiev is a stronghold of a destructive globalist ideology with ideas of xenophobia, radical hatred and tyranny.

    Many people in Italy, but more generally across the European continent, do not look favourably on Russia, despite being against NATO and American imperialism. There is a perception of the risk of going from being subjugated by one empire to another. What do you think about that?

    Of course, it is a big risk. However, there are different shades of approval. One can disapprove of a special military operation by the Russian Federation but refrain from supplying arms to Kiev. This is also a position. Europe has every right to be 'neutral'; geopolitically it is an independent pole that belongs neither to the civilisation of the sea nor that of the land. This intermediate status implies a certain neutrality. Today, the processes we see are the subordination of EU countries to the will of the USA, i.e. total subordination to the norms and imperatives of the civilisation of the sea. This is imperialism 2.0, and it passes through culture. Gramsci was very precise in saying that in the modern world, the seizure of power happens through culture. Whoever controls culture (as well as the media) controls the country politically and economically. Today culture in Europe is unfortunately controlled by pro-American structures.

    You are an expert and passionate about French philosophy and politics. France, as we all know, is one of the strongest nations in the European Union and plays a key role in relations with Russia and beyond. What scenarios do you foresee from the upcoming French presidential elections? How would the EU's relations with Russia change if Macron had lost?

    The presidential elections have shown that the globalist structures have done everything to keep their protégé, Emmanuel Macron, who represents the interests of global finance capital. His mentor, the French economist Jacques Attali, wrote about the importance of globalisation and the creation of a 'new nomadic elite', totally detached from its national roots. In such a world, all differences between cultures, peoples, traditions and everything becomes universal. Such an agenda is a threat to the multiplicity of European identities. Despite the anti-people policy of Macron's five-year plan, the whole mechanism of the globalist system was aimed at the artificial continuation of his mandate. It should be noted that the situation is revolutionary: at the head of the country there is a candidate who does not have the support of the majority of the population. He could be called a nihilist candidate - because his victory is entirely negative.

    Even two days before the second round of the elections Macron announced that France had sent self-propelled artillery units and anti-tank missile systems to Kiev. From appeasement, Macron moved on to actively supporting the Kiev regime. In a phone conversation on 30 April 2022 Macron discussed with Zelensky plans for French support for Ukraine and said he would increase military support for Kiev.

    If Marine Le Pen had succeeded in coming to power, the situation would have changed radically. She was an outspoken critic of NATO in relation to the Ukrainian conflict. Her position has an anti-globalisation basis. If she wins, France could become a country with which Russia could have a dialogue. He has repeatedly stated that France suffers from the anti-Russian sanctions imposed, calling them 'harakiri' for the country. Unfortunately, France has now become hostage to the interests of the globalist elites.

    As a final question, from geopolitics we turn to philosophy. Who are your favourite philosophers? And which thinkers do you think should be rediscovered, at this historical moment, in order to cooperate in the great awakening that is taking place?

    In my opinion, it is absolutely necessary to know the works of Plato and the Neo-Platonists, these are fundamental authors who, among other things, can give us clues about the events that are happening today. In Platonism, the basic idea was that of hierarchy, which manifests itself both in the soul (the three beginnings of the soul) and in the state. When the order and hierarchy are changed, the material - lustful beginning becomes the head, justice leaves the soul and the state, a reign of tyranny begins (what we see in the West today). It is also crucial to refer to Gramsci's writings - and his ideas of 'hegemony' - this is important to describe the process of subjugation of the European space to globalism. The main battle today is not so much military as cultural. Therefore, it is crucial to understand the new mission of culture, which carries the semantics of civilisation. In Europe, a culture that is spreading like an epidemic is the culture of globalism (we can distinguish different trends - cyborgization of art, fascination with object-oriented ontologies and many others).

    Baudrillard with his idea of death in modernity is more relevant than ever, in my opinion. In short, he notes that modern society strives to abolish death. In abolishing this denial of death, death floods everything, subordinates all processes. If we analyse, for example, French politics from the point of view of Thanatology, then this modern attitude with the 'denial of death' can be seen in the figure of Macron. His focus on virtuality (a pre-election room in the game Meinkraft), his appeal to the future (and not the past), his biohacking in the service of his ideological mentors (Bernard-Henri Lévy) are all evidence of the ideology of trying to overcome death, which is actually embedded in the ideology of globalism itself.

    If we try to turn to existential analysis, I think it is extremely important to follow the philosophy of Heidegger, who brilliantly described the experience of man's clash with Being. The experience of war and conflict is an opportunity for man to see the 'authentic', an opportunity to get to its 'sacred' basis.
    • US & NATO Don't Want Ukraine-Russia Negotiations, Claims Moscow Analyst Dr. Daria Dugina:
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    Default Re: Daria Dugina, Aleksandr Dugin's daughter, assassinated in Moscow

    Quote Posted by Chester (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Inversion (here)
    His Wikipedia page claims...
    Well, all that can be totally ignored.
    Exactly! (when will people wake up when it comes to this 'controlled propaganda' website)?

    Maybe this can help in forming a better view of things


    1. The Soviets are behind Putin recognizing both LPR and DPR as republics. Somehow they found their way to Putin (and this is where Aleksandr Dugin is supposed to have come through for them) (Also please don't call him Oleksandr, he's not Ukrainian )
    2. The Soviets expected a more clean, hard and fast war, a takeover of Ukraine in a month or two, by force regardless of civilians opinions or care for anyone else's stance (the west)
    3. This didn't happen of course, this is being done not as the USSR would have done it, but as Russia does it now


    So yes, there's a chance the soviets may have felt the need to make a move, so as to push Putin into a corner and cause him to act hard and end things now one way or another. But, this is a playing with fire scenario, the soviets are still powerful behind the scenes, but everyone knows who they are and where they have their pieces, it would be fatal to play this game and get found out.

    I'm not sure they want to go that route at all at this time (Putin is not dumb, he has ears and hands and eyes everywhere)


    The soviets, since long ago, are walking on a very thin line. Having come into a good place in Putin's eyes momentarily, means nothing, the carpet will be swept below their feet in a moment if they are found out to be the root of Dasha's death
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