Daria Dugina, Aleksandr Dugin's daughter, assassinated in Moscow

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Mashika (here)
So yes, there's a chance the soviets may have felt the need to make a move, so as to push Putin into a corner and cause him to act hard and end things now one way or another. But, this is a playing with fire scenario, the soviets are still powerful behind the scenes, but everyone knows who they are and where they have their pieces, it would be fatal to play this game and get found out. I'm not sure they want to go that route at all at this time

I'd even add a little more emphasis to that... I'm as sure as I can be that they'd absolutely not want to go down that route. It's way way too dangerous. It has to be 99% certain this was Ukrainian (and/or US/UK) special forces.

One thing that will be very very interesting is what Zelensky will say.

[Chester]

Posted by Mashika (here)

Posted by Chester (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Inversion (here)
His Wikipedia page claims...

Well, all that can be totally ignored.

Exactly! (when will people wake up when it comes to this 'controlled propaganda' website)?

Maybe this can help in forming a better view of things


1. The Soviets are behind Putin recognizing both LPR and DPR as republics. Somehow they found their way to Putin (and this is where Aleksandr Dugin is supposed to have come through for them) (Also please don't call him Oleksandr, he's not Ukrainian )
2. The Soviets expected a more clean, hard and fast war, a takeover of Ukraine in a month or two, by force regardless of civilians opinions or care for anyone else's stance (the west)
3. This didn't happen of course, this is being done not as the USSR would have done it, but as Russia does it now


So yes, there's a chance the soviets may have felt the need to make a move, so as to push Putin into a corner and cause him to act hard and end things now one way or another. But, this is a playing with fire scenario, the soviets are still powerful behind the scenes, but everyone knows who they are and where they have their pieces, it would be fatal to play this game and get found out.

I'm not sure they want to go that route at all at this time (Putin is not dumb, he has ears and hands and eyes everywhere)


The soviets, since long ago, are walking on a very thin line. Having come into a good place in Putin's eyes momentarily, means nothing, the carpet will be swept below their feet in a moment if they are found out to be the root of Dasha's death

"(Also please don't call him Oleksandr, he's not Ukrainian )"

I got that from the title of the first article I found on the internet - How is it best to spell his name?

? Aleksandr Dugin ?

I don't want to use the western way either.

Wow - I suspect Bill fixed it. If so, thank you.

This was the first article that I found - https://westobserver.com/news/europe...rbs-of-moscow/

[ExomatrixTV]

• Darya Dugina BRI Multipolar World - May 24, 2022:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=rq8uL0xzKBw

• As you asked! An interview with Daria Dugina, Alexander Dugin's Daughter Jun 13, 2022:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Azn8X1e9xtE

John Mark Dougan quote: "You guys asked, you receive! Here is an interview with my friend Daria Dugina, the lovely and talented daughter of Alexander Dugin. We were at the Port of Mariupok, watching how everything is being rebuilt and life is getting back to normal". Jun 13, 2022

• Daria Dugina, Daughter Of Alexander Dugin, Killed In Car Explosion:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=75N_C65SGBU

R.I.P.

[Mashika]

Posted by Chester (here)

Posted by Mashika (here)

Posted by Chester (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Inversion (here)
His Wikipedia page claims...

Well, all that can be totally ignored.

Exactly! (when will people wake up when it comes to this 'controlled propaganda' website)?

Maybe this can help in forming a better view of things


1. The Soviets are behind Putin recognizing both LPR and DPR as republics. Somehow they found their way to Putin (and this is where Aleksandr Dugin is supposed to have come through for them) (Also please don't call him Oleksandr, he's not Ukrainian )
2. The Soviets expected a more clean, hard and fast war, a takeover of Ukraine in a month or two, by force regardless of civilians opinions or care for anyone else's stance (the west)
3. This didn't happen of course, this is being done not as the USSR would have done it, but as Russia does it now


So yes, there's a chance the soviets may have felt the need to make a move, so as to push Putin into a corner and cause him to act hard and end things now one way or another. But, this is a playing with fire scenario, the soviets are still powerful behind the scenes, but everyone knows who they are and where they have their pieces, it would be fatal to play this game and get found out.

I'm not sure they want to go that route at all at this time (Putin is not dumb, he has ears and hands and eyes everywhere)


The soviets, since long ago, are walking on a very thin line. Having come into a good place in Putin's eyes momentarily, means nothing, the carpet will be swept below their feet in a moment if they are found out to be the root of Dasha's death

"(Also please don't call him Oleksandr, he's not Ukrainian )"

I got that from the title of the first article I found on the internet - How is it best to spell his name? I don't want to use the western way either.

Aleksandr Dugin is the right way, it avoids both Ukrainian and western pronunciation

Pretty sure he would not like Alexander or Oleksandr as alternatives

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Chester (here)
"(Also please don't call him Oleksandr, he's not Ukrainian )"

I got that from the title of the first article I found on the internet - How is it best to spell his name? ? Aleksandr Dugin ? I don't want to use the western way either.

Posted by Mashika (here)
Aleksandr Dugin

I've already changed it.

[Satori]

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=rq8uL0xzKBw

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Azn8X1e9xtE

• Daria Dugina, Daughter Of Alexander Dugin, Killed In Car Explosion

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=75N_C65SGBU

R.I.P.

A very impressive young lady. Passionate, very intelligent and articulate.... What a terrible shame.

[Bill Ryan]

This may or may not mean anything. But apart from the Daily Mail article in post #3 just under an hour ago, there are NO reports I can find from any mainstream media in the US or EU/UK.

Not the BBC, CNN, CBC, Der Spiegel, Le Monde, nothing.

[Chester]

Dugin arriving at the site.

also -

Russian nationalists on telegram asking to declare mobilization and murder Zelensky in retaliation for the murder of Dugin's daughter.

[Chester]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
This may or may not mean anything. But apart from the Daily Mail article in post #3 just under an hour ago, there are NO reports I can find from any mainstream media in the US or EU/UK.

Not the BBC, CNN, CBC, Der Spiegel, Le Monde, nothing.

I noticed he same... coordinated ignoring until finally someone like AP or Reuters comes out with it... maybe the BBC.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Chester (here)
Russian nationalists on telegram asking to declare mobilization and murder Zelensky in retaliation for the murder of Dugin's daughter.

I wrote this half an hour ago:

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
By morning US time, Putin will have made an extremely strong statement. He'll promise a response, but will leave Ukraine and the US guessing about what the response will be. And that won't be rhetorical... there will absolutely be one.

Putin's statement will need to be exceptionally strong to calm down the extremists (and the Soviets, referencing what Mashika posted in her post #20 here.) Putin is a master statesman, and will know exactly what to say and do. But he'll be walking a very fine line, keeping it all in balance — though he can certainly do that.

My guess about the deafening silence [so far] in the western mainstream media is because whoever gives them orders about what to say and report is still figuring out how to play this. Some slightly more wise and cautious senior influencers in the west, intent on avoiding escalation, will not want the west to be seen to be crowing about this. Others will want to do the opposite.

If Zelensky says the wrong stupid thing, someone's going to take him out — even if it wasn't under Putin's orders. This could spiral out of anyone's control very fast indeed.

[Mashika]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Mashika (here)
So yes, there's a chance the soviets may have felt the need to make a move, so as to push Putin into a corner and cause him to act hard and end things now one way or another. But, this is a playing with fire scenario, the soviets are still powerful behind the scenes, but everyone knows who they are and where they have their pieces, it would be fatal to play this game and get found out. I'm not sure they want to go that route at all at this time

I'd even add a little more emphasis to that... I'm as sure as I can be that they'd absolutely not want to go down that route. It's way way too dangerous. It has to be 99% certain this was Ukrainian (and/or US/UK) special forces.

I suspect even then that there had to be some help from within Russia

One thing that will be very very interesting is what Zelensky will say.

As you said, the media is kind of silent, i think we are going to see a lot of 'neutral' comments or fake 'concern' and the usual fake empathy coming in from politicians, media and other figures in the next hours/days

They messed up, and this may turn things very bad for them, so no one will want to get involved much maybe (the potato is way too hot right now)

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/TobiAyodele/stat...26851715776514

[ExomatrixTV]

• R.I.P. Darya Dugina

[Inversion]

Here's a picture of the vehicle after the fire was put out. I was looking for a tell in her father's body language in post#28. When people are smuggling at an airport their feet will be pointed at an exit.

twitter

Russian violinist Petr Lundstrem says that Darya Dugina was returning from the Tradition festival. Her father was supposed to get into this car but left in another one.

[Ravenlocke]

https://www.gazeta.ru/social/news/20...18372962.shtml

August 21, 2022, 00:09
Baza reported the explosion of Daria Dugina's jeep in the Moscow region

A car was blown up in the Moscow region. It was previously established that the deceased was the daughter of public figure Alexander Dugin Daria. Telegram channels Baza and 112 reported on the incident.

According to available information, the incident occurred near the village of Bolshiye Vyazemy near Moscow in the Odintsovo city district. The Land Cruiser Prado car, the owner of the car Daria Dugina, who was in the cabin, allegedly died on the spot, was blown up.

Earlier, employees of the FSB of Russia detained two residents of Kherson - Andrei Serezhenko and Oleg Pronko, who confessed to organizing the explosion of the car of the head of the Department of the Penitentiary Service for the Kherson region Yevgeny Sobolev.

Sobolev's car was blown up on June 18 with an improvised explosive device. As a result, the head of the USIN was hospitalized with a wound that did not threaten his life.

The FSB opened a criminal case against the detainees.

[Ravenlocke]

https://sputniknews.com/20220820/car...medium=twitter

Car Accident Occurs in Moscow Region, Likely Involves Russian Philosopher Dugin's Daughter

MOSCOW (Sputnik) - A car has caught on fire in the Odintsovsky District in the Moscow region, a law enforcement source has confirmed to Sputnik.

According to the Russian Kommersant newspaper, the daughter of Alexander Dugin, a Russian political philosopher and analyst, and a proponent of Traditionalist beliefs, could have been killed in the accident.
Dugin has reportedly arrived on the scene of the accident on Mozhayskoye Highway. According to several Russian media reports, an explosion preceded the accident involving the Land Cruiser Prado vehicle.

The head of the Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) Denis Pushilin said on Telegram that "terrorists of the Ukrainian regime, trying to eliminate Alexander Dugin, blew up his daughter... In a car."

[Chester]

The US and Russia have an active agreement to not conduct active measures within the other's respective borders. CIA would not have been involved within Russia in any active way.

That - from a friend who retired as a GS-15 (CIA equivalent to a full colonel).

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
an improvised explosive device

There'll be all kinds of forensics that can be done on that: the exact chemical composition of the explosive, etc. It'd all be done by mass spectrometer. Then that can be compared, like a fingerprint or DNA match, to any other IED that's been similarly analyzed in Ukraine.

My guess is that if there are matches, they'll know within a couple of days, maybe sooner. Then there won't be any definitive public statements, but very swift action will be taken against whoever did this.

THEN, they'll detail the entire process to the media, including naming who carried out the bombing. Putin has to do all this at express speed to quell the many voices that will be telling him to take out Kiev, or anywhere else in Europe.

Putin did say several weeks ago that if there was an attack on Russian soil, immediate and decisive action would be taken against the executive decision-makers, whoever or wherever they may be. There may even be a few in the know in MI6 in London right now who might not be sleeping too well.

[Ravenlocke]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62621509

Darya Dugin: Daughter of Putin ally killed in Moscow bomb - report
19 minutes ago

The daughter of a close ally to Russia's President Vladimir Putin has reportedly been killed near Moscow.



According to local media, Darya Dugin died after her car exploded in flames while she was travelling home.

It is not clear if her father, the Russian philosopher Aleksandr Dugin who is known as "Putin's brain," was the intended target of an attack.

Mr Dugin is a prominent ultra-nationalist ideologue who is believed to be close to the Russian president.

According to Russian media outlet 112, the pair were due to travel back from an event on Saturday evening in the same car before Mr Dugin made a decision to travel separately from his daughter at the last minute.

Unverified footage posted on Telegram appears to show Mr Dugin watching in shock as emergency services arrive at the scene of the burning wreck of a vehicle.

The BBC has not been able to verify the footage independently.

An unnamed law enforcement official confirmed to RIA news agency that a car had caught fire on a highway in the Moscow region's Odintsovo district, but provided no further details.

There has been no official comment from Russian authorities so far.

Despite not holding an official position in government, Ms Dugin's father is a close ally of the Russian president and has even been branded "Putin's Rasputin".

The philosopher's daughter, Darya Dugin, was herself a prominent journalist and commentator who supported the Russian invasion.

Earlier this year, she was sanctioned by UK authorities who accused the 29-year-old of contributing to online "disinformation" in relation to the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

Aleksandr Dugin's ultra-nationalist writings are credited with deeply shaping Vladimir Putin's worldview and he is closely associated with the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

The ideologue has previously expressed his support for Russian aggression towards Ukraine and was placed under US sanctions in 2015 for his alleged involvement in Moscow's annexation of Crimea in 2014.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Chester (here)
The US and Russia have an active agreement to not conduct active measures within the other's respective borders. CIA would not have been involved within Russia in any active way.

They'd just get on the [encrypted] phone to MI6, or call in a bunch of retired Special Ops US mercenaries and pay them as much as they wanted via accounts in the Cayman Islands. Legally, the CIA would have clean hands.... they always do.