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    hello all

    I dont know more than all of you know.
    But I have heard from several sources that Trump will be arrested.
    It will be a show arrest, and something that will not last long but cause a great shake up in all of us
    The message is, DO NOT DO ANYTHING.

    Dont freak out and revolt in the streets. Stay calm.

    I have heard that soon after, the main events will start to unfold.

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    Default Re: If Trump Is Arrested ???

    That would be a logical next step for these sick-minded, evil criminals to take. Especially if part of their program includes triggering unrest to the point they can claim justification to declare a national emergency, maybe even marital law, and call in the heavy artillery and try to lower the boom.

    None of us know what their next step is, but it’s not beneath them to do anything at all to achieve their goals; the main one of which is to save their sorry asses.

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    I don't doubt they'll try but the fact still remains it has always been a civil matter not a criminal matter and it's just a matter of time before a judge overules it even if they do try this arrest BS!I just do not see how it can stick!
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    Default Re: If Trump Is Arrested ???

    Guys I dont know. I heard he arranged the raid. But I dont know. we live in beyond interesting times for sure. Just take a deep breath whenever something goes down

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    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    I heard he arranged the raid
    "Trump arranged the FBI raid" ... really ...

    Who said that and based upon what exactly? ... links & sources please ...
    • I mean come on ... if it is just someone's speculation >>> why bring it up if it is not backed by any evidence!
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    Trump will be arrested or an arrest warrant will be filed against him, at this point the deep state has no choice, they committed to that course of action and would totally have egg on their face if they did nothing after such a high profile raid. Question remains wether or not the actual person they take into custody is trump or some body double.

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    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    Guys I don't know. I heard he arranged the raid.
    I personally doubt that very much — but it's entirely possible that he knew that it was going to happen, and also exactly when.

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    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    hello all

    I dont know more than all of you know.
    But I have heard from several sources that Trump will be arrested.
    It will be a show arrest, and something that will not last long but cause a great shake up in all of us
    The message is, DO NOT DO ANYTHING.

    Dont freak out and revolt in the streets. Stay calm.

    I have heard that soon after, the main events will start to unfold.

    PD
    If that happened, it would be in hopes of creating another January 6th. It would not surprise me if enough idiots bite.
    All the above is all and only my opinion - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    Exo A guy named Phil Godlewski 2.0 . But also hear it from others. I think on Rumble
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    They want to arrest him, yes. But it seems evident to me they realize the raid was a mistake and are carefully playing their cards on this one before they do anything.

    First, they have to make the affidavit public. It will be a redacted document, to cover up the overreach, but too much redaction won't look good for them. So before we see the affidavit, no concerns here about an imminent arrest.

    If there is absolutely nothing to the affidavit (which seems almost certain to me), they will fabricate something in attempt to connect the trumped-up charge to the nothing-burger/highly redacted affidavit. If we see this scenario in the coming weeks, this will be an indication to me they are about to make the arrest. But this is highly risky game, and my guess is they know it.

    Second, if they do decide to play this game, they will need to gauge carefully the public reaction to the affidavit. If the public (or even an increasing percentage of the public) buys the charges, they will absolutely go for the arrest. But as it stands now, the center and even center-left is skeptical, not to mention everyone on the right, even those who are Trump-haters.

    But if the Ministry of Truth can finagle the tide of sentiment their way after the release of the affidavit (which I highly doubt, as there is nothing there), then, yes, this will embolden an arrest spectacle.

    What happens after that is anybody's guess.
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    Politics is downstream of culture, culture has shifted and politics (and even more behind, their currently decaying lapdogs, the MSM) are already far behind the current apparent trends.

    Trump will not be arrested, the move the FBI made was planned like it's 2016; the repercussions / backfire will be glorious from what I'm seeing build up.
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    • Study this rumble video segment starting at: 1 hour 45 min 40 sec onward discussing the "planned arrest of Donald Trump" (1:46:46 onward) "then he will be released on bail" ... according to "One" (aka JFK Jr.).
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    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    Exo A guy named Phil Godlewski 2.0 . But also hear it from others. I think on Rumble
    so hearsay speculation ... with no real source links to investigate if there is any real merit to the claims.

    Most likely it came from the Q 107 "One" JFK Jr. "COG white hats" network community ...
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    If, and I repeat, if Trump get arrested and even if it is proven he is not guilty of all the (made up) charges later on, is it too late when the final judgement comes out? >>> all designed to interfere with the 2024 elections?
    • Or does the not guilty arrive just in time for him to be vindicated yet again and thus wins 2024 as planned by the COG white hats?
    If there is a "uncertainty" period of time about Trump being allowed to run for 2024 or not >>> many may focus also on Ron DeSantis more than they normally do >>> including all media outlets (mainstream & alternative) ... Which can be a positive thing

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    Exo A guy named Phil Godlewski 2.0 . But also hear it from others. I think on Rumble
    Then that can be disregarded. Many have commented that Phil Godlewski seems to invent everything he presents.

    A couple of months ago, and I believe he still states this, he released a report that the US Supreme Court had overturned the 2020 election results, but the decision was sealed for the time being and all the Supreme Court justices have been in hiding ever since.

    And he's not very bright. I watched him on a livestream once when he was unable to figure out approximately how many months there were in 120 days without using a calculator. (And he's a Flat Earther too. )

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    If, and I repeat, if Trump get arrested and even if it is proven he is not guilty of all the (made up) charges later on, is it too late when the final judgement comes out? >>> all designed to interfere with the 2024 elections?
    Satori might confirm, but as best I understand the US Constitution allows someone to run for President even if they're in prison.

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    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    Exo A guy named Phil Godlewski 2.0 . But also hear it from others. I think on Rumble
    I think he's a grifter Doug. His channel is full of scams playing on the hopes, but mainly fears, of those following him. I don't think he has any access to information, he got called out by Gregg Philipps and Brian Cates recently, both of whom were pretty scathing about his conduct.

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    If, and I repeat, if Trump get arrested and even if it is proven he is not guilty of all the (made up) charges later on, is it too late when the final judgement comes out? >>> all designed to interfere with the 2024 elections?
    Satori might confirm, but as best I understand the US Constitution allows someone to run for President even if they're in prison.
    The US Constitution sets forth the qualifications for the office of POTUS. Under Article II, one must be a natural born US citizen and at least 35 years of age. That’s it. However, Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment may preclude a person otherwise qualified under Article II from holding the office of POTUS, if the person has been convicted (not merely charged) of insurrection or rebellion against the US. However, that provision of the Fourteenth Amendment has not yet been interpreted, construed or applied by the SCOTUS to a person running for the office of the POTUS.

    I am not aware of any federal statute or other law that would prevent a person who is qualified under the US Constitution to run for POTUS, to be disqualified because he or she has been arrested, whether in jail, or out on bond, awaiting trial.

    It seems to me that to even argue, in good faith (which far too many people do not care about), that the person is disqualified, the candidate would have to have been adjudged guilty of insurrection or rebellion against the US. And, it is not clear that such an adjudication would indeed disqualify that person.

    The impeachment clause of the US Constitution has heretofore been regarded as the exclusive remedy to remove a POTUS. There is no clear Constitutional path to prevent a person who is qualified under the US Constitution to be disqualified from running for the office of POTUS.

    While I’ve not exhaustively researched the issue, I have dug down on this question to my satisfaction. I’m confident of what I have said here. But, if I were presenting a case in court I’d do more research to be absolutely sure.
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    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    Exo A guy named Phil Godlewski 2.0 . But also hear it from others. I think on Rumble
    This guy has been outed as a disinfo specialist and grifter by several I follow, including Brian Cates and Greg Phillips of True the Vote. He has become a joke among many of the real Patriot movement, and is threatening to sue them all for libel.

    Stay well away.

    update: Damn just read above and saw Journeyman with the exact same info - shows I need to read the whole thread before firing off a comment.
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    If, and I repeat, if Trump get arrested and even if it is proven he is not guilty of all the (made up) charges later on, is it too late when the final judgement comes out? >>> all designed to interfere with the 2024 elections?
    Satori might confirm, but as best I understand the US Constitution allows someone to run for President even if they're in prison.
    all these tactics (attempting to remove presidential candency eligibility) could be countered by the constitution which clearly defines presidential eligibility; any law passed after that that is "more restrictive" could easily be challenged in court as unconstitutional.

    AKA: this move is desperate and backed by nothing but potential propaganda power (which has miserably failed lately) not legal standing.


    Yep, I should have kept reading, this is better answered here:
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    If, and I repeat, if Trump get arrested and even if it is proven he is not guilty of all the (made up) charges later on, is it too late when the final judgement comes out? >>> all designed to interfere with the 2024 elections?
    Satori might confirm, but as best I understand the US Constitution allows someone to run for President even if they're in prison.
    The US Constitution sets forth the qualifications for the office of POTUS. Under Article II, one must be a natural born US citizen and at least 35 years of age. That’s it. However, Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment may preclude a person otherwise qualified under Article II from holding the office of POTUS, if the person has been convicted (not merely charged) of insurrection or rebellion against the US. However, that provision of the Fourteenth Amendment has not yet been interpreted, construed or applied by the SCOTUS to a person running for the office of the POTUS.

    I am not aware of any federal statute or other law that would prevent a person who is qualified under the US Constitution to run for POTUS, to be disqualified because he or she has been arrested, whether in jail, or out on bond, awaiting trial.

    It seems to me that to even argue, in good faith (which far too many people do not care about), that the person is disqualified, the candidate would have to have been adjudged guilty of insurrection or rebellion against the US. And, it is not clear that such an adjudication would indeed disqualify that person.

    The impeachment clause of the US Constitution has heretofore been regarded as the exclusive remedy to remove a POTUS. There is no clear path to prevent a person who is qualified under the US Constitution to be disqualified for running for the office of POTUS.

    While I’ve not exhaustively researched the issue, I have dug down on this question to my satisfaction. I’m confident of what I have said here. But, if I were presenting a case in court I’d do more research to be absolutely sure.
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