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    Hello all,

    This morning a member started a new thread, entitled "Blue Zones".

    More and more PA members are thinking/considering/dreaming ... of relocating to an "off grid location".

    Wherever that place could or would be, there will always be (dis)advantages, depending on the country (climate, politics, getting there...) and the personal wishes of any candidate for immigrating.

    Personally I have been studying for a while the two countries, mentioned above. This opening post is to "test the waters", in how far are there members here interested in exploring these options? (at first, it is really about looking into each opportunity, later...we'll see what is possible).

    Looking for your replies here, before embarking on this venture.


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    No need to follow anyone, only consider broadening (y)our horizon of possibilities ...

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    If it's 'strategic'. that you really have in mind, can you explain to me your strategy ?
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    Default Re: Strategic relocation in Costa Rica/ Malawi

    "Strategic relocation", that's the category where the thread is best put.
    It deals with being "off grid", intentional communities (of every kind) and every related issue/subject.

    It is not "my" strategy. But strategic in the way that we deal (as good as we can) with the world in chaos. There are several posts about this.

    I would say... how do you define strategic? It's an open discussion, so go ahead.

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    In the face of an enemy, a strategy kinda falls into two categories.

    How to defeat the enemy, or how to cosy up and join or appease the enemy.
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    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    In the face of an enemy, a strategy kinda falls into two categories.

    How to defeat the enemy, or how to cosy up and join or appease the enemy.
    I think he means strategically hidden away, out of bounds, of the grid. I can't see Johan get a rifle and shoot crap. He could, but he strikes me as a pacifistic type.

    I die where I live, not making any illusions about that, if war starts I stay with my Cats, am loyal that way, they get blown up I get blown up, simple as that.

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    Default Re: Strategic relocation in Costa Rica/ Malawi

    You made me smile 9ideon...

    Of course you were right about the interpretation of "strategy".

    I may have BEEN - long time ago - a 1st lieutenant (logistics) in the local airforce... but that was because we still had "consciption" here.

    True, I AM a "pacifistic" type of person!

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    Default Re: Strategic relocation in Costa Rica/ Malawi

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    In the face of an enemy, a strategy kinda falls into two categories.

    How to defeat the enemy, or how to cosy up and join or appease the enemy.
    I think he means strategically hidden away, out of bounds, of the grid. I can't see Johan get a rifle and shoot crap. He could, but he strikes me as a pacifistic type.

    I die where I live, not making any illusions about that, if war starts I stay with my Cats, am loyal that way, they get blown up I get blown up, simple as that.

    It is said (often in the 'spiritual' communities, at least) that we are exactly where we are meant to be at the moment, in these times. Personally I feel that the window of opportunity for relocating, has gone for me. I have to trust that my higher self knows best here. This was bought home to me after a conversation I had with someone at a alternative health clinic while I was waiting for my appointment. The clinic was situated in Totnes - a well-known 'progressive' (not always!) town in south Devon. Speaking to the receptionist, she asked me where I lived and I told her, a little defensively (my town is not a 'progressive' one) and in the same breath I found myself firmly stating 'I'm there to shine a Light'. I was surprised I said that so boldly...where did that come from, I thought, then I realised it was a higher part of me muscling in to remind me. I just hadn't thought of it like that.
    The receptionist smiled and said, 'yes, I think you are'.

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    Default Re: Strategic relocation in Costa Rica/ Malawi

    Well, I don't know what's around the corner but if I had the cash right now it would prollly be Vilcabamba.

    There are a lots of reasons why this would be the best place to relocate, even tho I don't speak the language, (but having lived in France I think I'd pick it up quick enough)

    Plenty of places for sale there with land & water, & it's well away from the places in the world were poop is going down

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    Quote Posted by Mari (here)
    Quote Posted by 9ideon (here)
    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    In the face of an enemy, a strategy kinda falls into two categories.

    How to defeat the enemy, or how to cosy up and join or appease the enemy.
    I think he means strategically hidden away, out of bounds, of the grid. I can't see Johan get a rifle and shoot crap. He could, but he strikes me as a pacifistic type.

    I die where I live, not making any illusions about that, if war starts I stay with my Cats, am loyal that way, they get blown up I get blown up, simple as that.

    It is said (often in the 'spiritual' communities, at least) that we are exactly where we are meant to be at the moment, in these times. Personally I feel that the window of opportunity for relocating, has gone for me. I have to trust that my higher self knows best here. This was bought home to me after a conversation I had with someone at a alternative health clinic while I was waiting for my appointment. The clinic was situated in Totnes - a well-known 'progressive' (not always!) town in south Devon. Speaking to the receptionist, she asked me where I lived and I told her, a little defensively (my town is not a 'progressive' one) and in the same breath I found myself firmly stating 'I'm there to shine a Light'. I was surprised I said that so boldly...where did that come from, I thought, then I realised it was a higher part of me muscling in to remind me. I just hadn't thought of it like that.
    The receptionist smiled and said, 'yes, I think you are'.
    Ah yeah - I have probably posted something here in Avalon about the same feeling myself. I feel that I have been guided and moved to where I have been needed to be/go throughout my life.

    As for relocating we have discussed it a number of times in our family, but we seem to be in "our" place right now and it feels ok. (Although there are many arguments that could go against that.)

    We keep talking about going south to a nice warm climate, but I feel like we will end up going more north. *shrug*

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    I am attracted by Costa Rica for I am contacting with a new customer who is from Costa Rica. I never heard about such a country until he found me.
    Okay, I still need to learn more about the World Map...lol

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    Default Re: Strategic relocation in Costa Rica/ Malawi

    I dated a gal from Costa Rico 10 years ago, we met online and I flew down to meet her and stay a while. She was originally from Peru, moved to Costa Rico and told me her and her then boyfriend lived in the jungle for 8 years. She would once a week take a small boat to the village for some supplies . This girl was beautiful, smart, funny, and could she sing. She worked in Manchu pichu for a while and new York. What an experience that was for me. It was an absolute blast. And yes she was off the grid the entire 8 years.

    I do believe though our lives take us where we need to go and whatever happens , events from around the world we are suppose to be where we are at when things happen. For many of us it is a higher calling , for many of us here at Avalon it is definitely a higher calling.
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    How different is bugging out and waiting for the rest of the human race to die, from what the murdering crooks who did all this set up for themselves ?

    It's pretty much declaring oneself to be one of them, with the same goal as theirs, except that they have a surprise for those who choose it.

    Identifying as a pacifist doesn't begin to grasp what's really happening here.
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    Default Re: Strategic relocation in Costa Rica/ Malawi

    The time I decided to move to Thailand I was researching a country in Africa (Namibia) and I can tell you I almost moved over there, it was really almost, it fascinated me all the features Namibia has to offer. I also looked into Ecuador, Panama, and a few others in Central America, but since I lived in Brazil for many years, it was looking for a different area, I also had been in Mexico long ago, and I liked it, warm and nice people, I would definitely live there long term.. but after I got work in Asia I spent quite a lot of time working and living in Asian countries, Thailand was by far the best in many aspects, I had been in many Countries in East Asia, South Asia and South East Asia, also in Middle East and despite all "terrorism" bull**** I would live in North Pakistan or North India in the Kashmir region if it would be allowed.

    I am happy where I am today, and I have no plans to move anywhere else, unless I get booted from here, but I see no reason at all for that to happen, despite the political problems Thailand had been a very tolerant country in many aspects, the Thai people are genuine, I am here for time enough to say that, another big aspect of living here, I never was attacked/robbed or suffered any harm for whatever reason, people here are very respectful and the cultural exchange is great, I met people from places that I would never imagine I would ever meet one day, made good friends, saw a lot of **** as well.. but it is all part I guess.

    Malawi seems to be a very special place.. but probably they are very dependent from the countries around due to be landlocked, Laos is like that and they depend on Thailand, Vietnam and China for international trade.. you may not find everything you wish in the country.. unless it is not a problem.

    How is the process to immigrate to Malawi ?

    As Johan added, it is very important to do your own research before moving abroad, really spend a good amount of time on it, you won't regret in the future.
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    Default Re: Strategic relocation in Costa Rica/ Malawi

    I guess the keyword is the simplicity (simple tradition life) for such called blue zone or off grid areas far from technology and new trending toxic lifestyle. but what I find it puzzling is why some places like in Thailand / Philippines (land of smiles) or Cuba (friendliest people).... etc are not considered as well! is that because they are somehow influenced by modern life? or their food?
    maybe another factor to consider is "how affected they could be if a world war happens?" and their believes (not religion) ...
    if you guys can share what factors or considerations you take into when you are thinking about moving to these places?

    and I was thinking these places are not a target for geopolitician people because they don't have such worthy resources? and maybe in near future they move to on grid instead off grid locations?
    People are not crazy but live in different reality, not stupid but own different mentality, not bad but look for different morality
    , not selfish but have different priority, not boring but need different compatibility

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    Default Re: Strategic relocation in Costa Rica/ Malawi

    Palehorse, immigration into Malawi is not thāt hard.
    You need to invest 50.000 US$, to get a visa residency permit.

    You make good points. There is a LOT involved and Malawi is not a well-known country.

    It would also be important to stay away from "major cities".

    The climate is fine (but not everywhere).

    And I am very concerned myself about "politics" (anywhere!)

    Yet, one can REALLY go live "off-grid" over there. And there's still a lot of Nature too.

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    Default Re: Strategic relocation in Costa Rica/ Malawi

    Superior88, what to consider when moving to another country/place, it depends on the individual I think.

    In how far are you ready to live completely "off-grid"? How "simple" can you live, is acceptable for you?
    How much can you/do you want to invest?
    Do you have skills to grow your own vegetables (permaculture, hydroponics...)?
    Do you prefer to live in a small community (of likeminded people) or can you deal with it all by yourself (like our Bill Ryan)?
    Are you alone, with a friend/spouse, children...? The demands are quite different in each case.
    What type of climate can you adjust to? (I don't see someone from the Middle East go live in Norway for instance)
    In how far is "isolation" in that country an advantage OR a disadvantage? (in case of a major WW, a self-sustainable place in a remote country could be very positive. COULD be... one can't know for sure).

    Many, many more points are to be considered. The above is just a start.

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    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    How different is bugging out and waiting for the rest of the human race to die, from what the murdering crooks who did all this set up for themselves ?

    It's pretty much declaring oneself to be one of them, with the same goal as theirs, except that they have a surprise for those who choose it.

    Identifying as a pacifist doesn't begin to grasp what's really happening here.
    I don't think it's pacifism to opt out of our prescribed choices (fight or join in) - rather it's a matter of saying a big fat NO to the forces that would have us choose within a closed loop system that they are a part of upholding.
    It takes a lot of courage, bravery and self-worth to just say no, and to turn away and create entirely new ways of being, that are outwith the boundaries that we are given.

    You become what you fight and same goes for aquiescing.

    I think what this thread is about, and Johan is wanting to explore (correct me if I'm wrong), is exactly that - how to create a new reality, whilst locating to a place that might hold the ingredients to to it in a productive and relatively solid way.
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    What is the fattest "NO" of all Ben ?, "spiritually", that is.
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    No need to correct you Ben, it is indeed exactly thāt!

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