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    A different tangent... if Steve Jackson Games re-made a modern version of the game of Illuminati, Nigel Farage would have his own card.

    He is a career politician playing a level of truth underneath the mainstream. He can be a bit slow but seems to have caught up. I can take him or leave him but I'll take him this time.

    Quote "I never thought I'd say it, but the moment Jeremy Hunt was announced as the next Chancellor, I said 'it's a Globalist Coup', and this is language that previously I'd have looked at and thought 'Well, I'm not going to touch that, I'm not going to go there', but I think that is what happened"

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    Digital ID news. Another brick in the road towards the summit of Peak Devilry.



    A link to the above.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/public...lpha-version-2

    Jeez. All the best conspiracy theories are actually in plain sight on government websites!

    This is the start of a myriad of associated digital ID/biometric developments and news from around the world. Biometric Update, based in Toronto, Canada. It's a dark, dark place. And a busy and highly informative one too. They are pushing hard all over Africa at the moment and plenty of other places.

    https://www.biometricupdate.com/about-us

    This all comes from UN Sustainable Development Goal 16, specifically 16.9. The parasites want us all to have a digital ID by 2030.

    The 17 UN SDGs come from the Rio Earth Summit in 1992.

    Here's a summary of them.

    https://sdgs.un.org/goals

    The 1992 Rio Earth Summit was the public launch of Agenda 21. Agenda 21 is the source of most of the dystopian madness surrounding us today.

    Here it is in official form. Read it and get yourself informed, or don't.



    The single biggest strategy within Agenda 21 is to convince the general population of the world that there is a global climate emergency. This faked climate emergency is to provide most of the framework and momentum for selling Agenda 21 to the sheeple of the world.

    Originally this was all discussed in embryo by the Club of Rome in 1968.

    Are you starting to see the depth of this evil and its lies yet?

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    Mystery deepens of British mother who vanished ‘into thin air’
    AFP - February 6, 2023





    Specialist divers were on Monday scouring a river bed for traces of a missing woman, more than a week after she appeared to “vanish into thin air” leaving her phone still dialled into a work conference call at an isolated rural spot in northern England.

    Family and friends of Nicola Bulley, 45, have questioned the police theory that she fell into the river in a tragic accident.

    They say there is no evidence for the hypothesis which leaves them in a distressing limbo.

    The mortgage adviser was last seen 10 days ago walking her dog along the riverbank after dropping her two young daughters off at school as usual in the northwestern Lancashire village of St Michael’s on Wyre.

    Soon after, her dog was found running loose “in an agitated state” prompting a member of the public to raise the alarm.

    With her mysterious disappearance making headline news, police on Friday said they were working on the assumption that Bulley slipped into the water.

    “Our main working hypothesis, therefore, is that Nicola has sadly fallen into the river, that there is no third-party or criminal involvement and that this is not suspicious, but a tragic case of a missing person,” said superintendent Sally Riley who is leading the police investigation.

    The towpath runs alongside a steep riverbank but family members point to the lack of any footprints or scuffs in the mud to indicate she fell.

    Her parents have expressed fears Bulley might have been abducted.

    Her father, Ernest, 73, said last week there was no evidence to point to his daughter falling into the river and he feared somebody might have “got her”.

    “There are two young children there waiting for their mummy to come back,” he said.

    Bulley’s sister Louise Cunningham added: “Somebody must know something. People don’t just vanish into thin air.”

    Police divers have conducted searches of the river but say they failed to find any sign of the missing woman.

    On Monday, a specialist underwater rescue team joined the search.

    Forensic expert Peter Faulding, chief executive of Specialist Group International, said the high-tech sonar used by his firm was capable of seeing “every stick and stone lying on the riverbed”.

    The result of the search would allow police to confirm or deny “if Nicola is actually in this river”, he said.

    Friend Emma White told the BBC the uncertainty was particularly difficult for the family.

    “Following the hypothesis of the police that Nicola was in the river, we need some evidence to back that up either way,” she said.

    In November, Bulley — who had frequently documented her walks on social media — wrote on her Facebook page about the spot where she was last seen.

    “Very foggy cold walk,” she wrote, adding that the area was “spooky”.
    It seems that this case is one in which pieces of a puzzle are falling into place, no thanks to the media.

    When someone has conclusively made up his or her mind to commit suicide and have gotten their affairs in order, an eery calmness and resolve can set in

    This leads loved ones to let down their guard. Most are uncomfortable with the release of info on Nicola Bulley: change of hormones, HRT side effects, cessation of HRT impact and alcohol, & earlier police intervention give us a glimpse into her state of mind. Very often, by the time a well-being check by police is necessary, things will have already spiralled out of control.

    It is tragic.
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    Quote Posted by happyuk (here)
    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    Mystery deepens of British mother who vanished ‘into thin air’
    AFP - February 6, 2023





    Specialist divers were on Monday scouring a river bed for traces of a missing woman, more than a week after she appeared to “vanish into thin air” leaving her phone still dialled into a work conference call at an isolated rural spot in northern England.

    Family and friends of Nicola Bulley, 45, have questioned the police theory that she fell into the river in a tragic accident.

    They say there is no evidence for the hypothesis which leaves them in a distressing limbo.

    The mortgage adviser was last seen 10 days ago walking her dog along the riverbank after dropping her two young daughters off at school as usual in the northwestern Lancashire village of St Michael’s on Wyre.

    Soon after, her dog was found running loose “in an agitated state” prompting a member of the public to raise the alarm.

    With her mysterious disappearance making headline news, police on Friday said they were working on the assumption that Bulley slipped into the water.

    “Our main working hypothesis, therefore, is that Nicola has sadly fallen into the river, that there is no third-party or criminal involvement and that this is not suspicious, but a tragic case of a missing person,” said superintendent Sally Riley who is leading the police investigation.

    The towpath runs alongside a steep riverbank but family members point to the lack of any footprints or scuffs in the mud to indicate she fell.

    Her parents have expressed fears Bulley might have been abducted.

    Her father, Ernest, 73, said last week there was no evidence to point to his daughter falling into the river and he feared somebody might have “got her”.

    “There are two young children there waiting for their mummy to come back,” he said.

    Bulley’s sister Louise Cunningham added: “Somebody must know something. People don’t just vanish into thin air.”

    Police divers have conducted searches of the river but say they failed to find any sign of the missing woman.

    On Monday, a specialist underwater rescue team joined the search.

    Forensic expert Peter Faulding, chief executive of Specialist Group International, said the high-tech sonar used by his firm was capable of seeing “every stick and stone lying on the riverbed”.

    The result of the search would allow police to confirm or deny “if Nicola is actually in this river”, he said.

    Friend Emma White told the BBC the uncertainty was particularly difficult for the family.

    “Following the hypothesis of the police that Nicola was in the river, we need some evidence to back that up either way,” she said.

    In November, Bulley — who had frequently documented her walks on social media — wrote on her Facebook page about the spot where she was last seen.

    “Very foggy cold walk,” she wrote, adding that the area was “spooky”.
    It seems that this case is one in which pieces of a puzzle are falling into place, no thanks to the media.

    When someone has conclusively made up his or her mind to commit suicide and have gotten their affairs in order, an eery calmness and resolve can set in

    This leads loved ones to let down their guard. Most are uncomfortable with the release of info on Nicola Bulley: change of hormones, HRT side effects, cessation of HRT impact and alcohol, & earlier police intervention give us a glimpse into her state of mind. Very often, by the time a well-being check by police is necessary, things will have already spiralled out of control.

    It is tragic.

    Aside from the mystery of this case, I can't go along with the 'suicide' theory, at the moment. She was a 'strong swimmer' the family say and, leaving that aside, it's very hard to drown in a 'benign' body of water, like the river concerned - your survival instincts will kick in. The only way to do it successfully would be to either literally tie a rock round your ankles and jump in the deep part and/or saturate yourself with alcohol and prescription or over-the-counter drugs - the shock of the freezing water will do the rest. That scenario takes planning and aforethought and, without knowing anything about her, I just can't see suicide by drowning.

    Nevertheless, this whole sad case will be used by the media (coming to a town near you)) to champion the 'cause' of micro-chipping the population to 'keep them safe'. 'If she had a 'chip' in her body, she wouldn't still be missing' will be the populist cry - aided and abetted by the scare-mongering media. My pet insurance company bombards me weekly with advice to microchip my cat...'in case he gets lost'. That's the start of it.
    With the huge msm and social media coverage over this (never mind the non-reporting of the hundreds of thousands of people who go missing every year) I would not be at all surprised in these crazy times if this was an 'organised' abduction, with the intention of scaring/priming an already traumatised public into accepting some sort of 'tagging' 'to keep you safe'...

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    Quote Posted by happyuk (here)
    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    Mystery deepens of British mother who vanished ‘into thin air’
    AFP - February 6, 2023





    Specialist divers were on Monday scouring a river bed for traces of a missing woman, more than a week after she appeared to “vanish into thin air” leaving her phone still dialled into a work conference call at an isolated rural spot in northern England.

    Family and friends of Nicola Bulley, 45, have questioned the police theory that she fell into the river in a tragic accident.

    They say there is no evidence for the hypothesis which leaves them in a distressing limbo.

    The mortgage adviser was last seen 10 days ago walking her dog along the riverbank after dropping her two young daughters off at school as usual in the northwestern Lancashire village of St Michael’s on Wyre.

    Soon after, her dog was found running loose “in an agitated state” prompting a member of the public to raise the alarm.

    With her mysterious disappearance making headline news, police on Friday said they were working on the assumption that Bulley slipped into the water.

    “Our main working hypothesis, therefore, is that Nicola has sadly fallen into the river, that there is no third-party or criminal involvement and that this is not suspicious, but a tragic case of a missing person,” said superintendent Sally Riley who is leading the police investigation.

    The towpath runs alongside a steep riverbank but family members point to the lack of any footprints or scuffs in the mud to indicate she fell.

    Her parents have expressed fears Bulley might have been abducted.

    Her father, Ernest, 73, said last week there was no evidence to point to his daughter falling into the river and he feared somebody might have “got her”.

    “There are two young children there waiting for their mummy to come back,” he said.

    Bulley’s sister Louise Cunningham added: “Somebody must know something. People don’t just vanish into thin air.”

    Police divers have conducted searches of the river but say they failed to find any sign of the missing woman.

    On Monday, a specialist underwater rescue team joined the search.

    Forensic expert Peter Faulding, chief executive of Specialist Group International, said the high-tech sonar used by his firm was capable of seeing “every stick and stone lying on the riverbed”.

    The result of the search would allow police to confirm or deny “if Nicola is actually in this river”, he said.

    Friend Emma White told the BBC the uncertainty was particularly difficult for the family.

    “Following the hypothesis of the police that Nicola was in the river, we need some evidence to back that up either way,” she said.

    In November, Bulley — who had frequently documented her walks on social media — wrote on her Facebook page about the spot where she was last seen.

    “Very foggy cold walk,” she wrote, adding that the area was “spooky”.
    It seems that this case is one in which pieces of a puzzle are falling into place, no thanks to the media.

    When someone has conclusively made up his or her mind to commit suicide and have gotten their affairs in order, an eery calmness and resolve can set in

    This leads loved ones to let down their guard. Most are uncomfortable with the release of info on Nicola Bulley: change of hormones, HRT side effects, cessation of HRT impact and alcohol, & earlier police intervention give us a glimpse into her state of mind. Very often, by the time a well-being check by police is necessary, things will have already spiralled out of control.

    It is tragic.
    Body found in river, though not yet identified:

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ound-in-search

    As soon as Lancashire Police raised her medication and other struggles, I accepted the fact that in all likelihood she was in the water. But we will see what the autopsy says - when she died, what causes, etc.

    What a really sad end.
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    Asked if he gave family false hope by ruling out the river, search expert Peter Faulding said: "If I gave them false hope, then what about the police search teams there every day?"

    This is totally consistent with his earlier blame-shifting language. Much like the child who says, "But mum! All the other kids were doing it!"

    Ditto with the earlier hypotheticals he raised, he allows for it to have happened, but did not want to own it.

    He must be a very difficult man to work with. He should consider stopping interviews.
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    Wow! Just when I thought this story couldn't get any stranger!

    Quote Nicola Bulley body was found by 'spiritual medium' who used his 'gift'

    Jason Rothwell, 33, was pictured on the riverbank along the River Wyre on Sunday as her body was found.


    By James Rodger Conte
    20 February 2023 • 7:00pm

    A man who claims he found Nicola Bulley in the River Wyre says he is a "medium" who used his "gift" to locate the missing mum-of-two. Jason Rothwell, 33, was pictured on the riverbank along the River Wyre on Sunday as her body was found.

    Mr Rothwell, from Oldham ,has taken to TikTok to speak out as police confirmed the body was Ms Bulley. He said in a video going viral: "It is with great regret that I have to address this issue at this time. But due to wide number of private enquires and threads now circulating on YouTube and TikTok, I feel I should but put a brief statement.

    "As has obviously become apparent, yes it is myself in the images in the media currently circulating relating to the case of Nicola Bulley and yes yesterday morning it was myself and a friend who reported and assisted the police in the recovery of a body from the river Wyre."

    READ MORE Nicola Bulley police announce press conference after body pulled from river

    "Such as it is it would be inappropriate of me to discuss in any further detail anything we may know about that body at this time, considering a formal identification of that body has yet to be confirmed. I would also like to just say a huge thank you to Lancashire police for their help, support and the open mindedness with which they dealt with us, following our call, spiritualists or mediums are obviously not something the police come across every day and I appreciate the respect given to us both.

    "It is also important to mention, I was not asked by the police or Nicola’s family to become involved in this case, but having seen the wild speculation and hurtful commentary that has been ongoing, and having previously assisted in the recovery of Michael Brooks, I decided to use what ever “gift” it is we mediums possess to try and locate Nicola Bulley. I Would however stress again, I can not confirm that body we traced yesterday is that off the lady in question.

    "My thoughts and prayers are with her family, friend and loved ones at this time and I do hope, that if it is indeed Nicola, they can find some peace with this. If it is not, I would send my prayers to the family off whomsoever it may be."

    He signed off by saying: "I would add as a final note, I will not be giving any further information or commentary at this time regarding the work involved in finding this person nor is it my place to engage in any discussion on how that body came to originally be in the water."
    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/new...itual-26287391

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    UK supermarkets face tomato shortages

    Supplies of some fruit and vegetables, including tomatoes, to UK supermarkets have been disrupted by poor weather in Europe and Africa.

    The British Retail Consortium (BRC) said that harvests had been hit by "difficult weather conditions".

    Numerous pictures of empty shelves in supermarkets have been circulating on social media in recent days.

    Sources within the industry have acknowledged that there have been temporary supply challenges.

    Among the images shared on social media, the shortage of tomatoes appears to be particularly significant.

    A significant proportion of the tomatoes we consume over the winter months are grown in Morocco and Southern Spain. Both regions have recently been affected first by warm weather - which affected crop yields - then by a cold snap which has meant longer growth times.

    Cancelled ferries from Morocco due to bad weather have also affected supplies.



    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64712361
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    Quote Posted by pueblo (here)
    Wow! Just when I thought this story couldn't get any stranger!

    Quote Nicola Bulley body was found by 'spiritual medium' who used his 'gift'

    Jason Rothwell, 33, was pictured on the riverbank along the River Wyre on Sunday as her body was found.


    By James Rodger Conte
    20 February 2023 • 7:00pm

    A man who claims he found Nicola Bulley in the River Wyre says he is a "medium" who used his "gift" to locate the missing mum-of-two. Jason Rothwell, 33, was pictured on the riverbank along the River Wyre on Sunday as her body was found.

    Mr Rothwell, from Oldham ,has taken to TikTok to speak out as police confirmed the body was Ms Bulley. He said in a video going viral: "It is with great regret that I have to address this issue at this time. But due to wide number of private enquires and threads now circulating on YouTube and TikTok, I feel I should but put a brief statement.

    "As has obviously become apparent, yes it is myself in the images in the media currently circulating relating to the case of Nicola Bulley and yes yesterday morning it was myself and a friend who reported and assisted the police in the recovery of a body from the river Wyre."

    READ MORE Nicola Bulley police announce press conference after body pulled from river

    "Such as it is it would be inappropriate of me to discuss in any further detail anything we may know about that body at this time, considering a formal identification of that body has yet to be confirmed. I would also like to just say a huge thank you to Lancashire police for their help, support and the open mindedness with which they dealt with us, following our call, spiritualists or mediums are obviously not something the police come across every day and I appreciate the respect given to us both.

    "It is also important to mention, I was not asked by the police or Nicola’s family to become involved in this case, but having seen the wild speculation and hurtful commentary that has been ongoing, and having previously assisted in the recovery of Michael Brooks, I decided to use what ever “gift” it is we mediums possess to try and locate Nicola Bulley. I Would however stress again, I can not confirm that body we traced yesterday is that off the lady in question.

    "My thoughts and prayers are with her family, friend and loved ones at this time and I do hope, that if it is indeed Nicola, they can find some peace with this. If it is not, I would send my prayers to the family off whomsoever it may be."

    He signed off by saying: "I would add as a final note, I will not be giving any further information or commentary at this time regarding the work involved in finding this person nor is it my place to engage in any discussion on how that body came to originally be in the water."
    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/new...itual-26287391

    Maybe it could get stranger still? I find it hard to believe that her body was in the river for three weeks, just a short way from her going 'missing' and evaded the intense search. But it may well have been, who knows? Maybe the Lancashire police truly don't know their arse from their elbow?
    The other alternative, and the autopsy will pick this up, is if the body was placed in the river after death, ie abduction. The 'expert' diver, hired by the police was absolutely adamant that her body would never have been able to go over the weir, upstream, to where her body was found.

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    Quote Posted by Mari (here)
    Quote Posted by pueblo (here)
    Wow! Just when I thought this story couldn't get any stranger!

    Quote Nicola Bulley body was found by 'spiritual medium' who used his 'gift'

    Jason Rothwell, 33, was pictured on the riverbank along the River Wyre on Sunday as her body was found.


    By James Rodger Conte
    20 February 2023 • 7:00pm

    A man who claims he found Nicola Bulley in the River Wyre says he is a "medium" who used his "gift" to locate the missing mum-of-two. Jason Rothwell, 33, was pictured on the riverbank along the River Wyre on Sunday as her body was found.

    Mr Rothwell, from Oldham ,has taken to TikTok to speak out as police confirmed the body was Ms Bulley. He said in a video going viral: "It is with great regret that I have to address this issue at this time. But due to wide number of private enquires and threads now circulating on YouTube and TikTok, I feel I should but put a brief statement.

    "As has obviously become apparent, yes it is myself in the images in the media currently circulating relating to the case of Nicola Bulley and yes yesterday morning it was myself and a friend who reported and assisted the police in the recovery of a body from the river Wyre."

    READ MORE Nicola Bulley police announce press conference after body pulled from river

    "Such as it is it would be inappropriate of me to discuss in any further detail anything we may know about that body at this time, considering a formal identification of that body has yet to be confirmed. I would also like to just say a huge thank you to Lancashire police for their help, support and the open mindedness with which they dealt with us, following our call, spiritualists or mediums are obviously not something the police come across every day and I appreciate the respect given to us both.

    "It is also important to mention, I was not asked by the police or Nicola’s family to become involved in this case, but having seen the wild speculation and hurtful commentary that has been ongoing, and having previously assisted in the recovery of Michael Brooks, I decided to use what ever “gift” it is we mediums possess to try and locate Nicola Bulley. I Would however stress again, I can not confirm that body we traced yesterday is that off the lady in question.

    "My thoughts and prayers are with her family, friend and loved ones at this time and I do hope, that if it is indeed Nicola, they can find some peace with this. If it is not, I would send my prayers to the family off whomsoever it may be."

    He signed off by saying: "I would add as a final note, I will not be giving any further information or commentary at this time regarding the work involved in finding this person nor is it my place to engage in any discussion on how that body came to originally be in the water."
    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/new...itual-26287391

    Maybe it could get stranger still? I find it hard to believe that her body was in the river for three weeks, just a short way from her going 'missing' and evaded the intense search. But it may well have been, who knows? Maybe the Lancashire police truly don't know their arse from their elbow?
    The other alternative, and the autopsy will pick this up, is if the body was placed in the river after death, ie abduction. The 'expert' diver, hired by the police was absolutely adamant that her body would never have been able to go over the weir, upstream, to where her body was found.
    Rich D Hall has recently made an interesting point that running in parallel with this sad episode was/is some kind of a psychological operation that has the stench of 77th all over it.

    Given that in the UK somebody is reported missing every 90 seconds, could it be that this sorry tale was leveraged by the powers that be resulting from the frustration they are no doubt feeling from people like us, doing our own research, and scrutinising their so-called investigations (Manchester bombing anyone?), seeking to ridicule and demonise anyone willing to go outside official narratives as armchair detectives?

    Almost like they're trying to exploit certain situations and encourage people to investigate, only then to manufacture public outrage about amateur investigators and their opinions and findings.
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    Quote Posted by happyuk (here)
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    Wow! Just when I thought this story couldn't get any stranger!

    Quote Nicola Bulley body was found by 'spiritual medium' who used his 'gift'

    Jason Rothwell, 33, was pictured on the riverbank along the River Wyre on Sunday as her body was found.


    By James Rodger Conte
    20 February 2023 • 7:00pm

    A man who claims he found Nicola Bulley in the River Wyre says he is a "medium" who used his "gift" to locate the missing mum-of-two. Jason Rothwell, 33, was pictured on the riverbank along the River Wyre on Sunday as her body was found.

    Mr Rothwell, from Oldham ,has taken to TikTok to speak out as police confirmed the body was Ms Bulley. He said in a video going viral: "It is with great regret that I have to address this issue at this time. But due to wide number of private enquires and threads now circulating on YouTube and TikTok, I feel I should but put a brief statement.

    "As has obviously become apparent, yes it is myself in the images in the media currently circulating relating to the case of Nicola Bulley and yes yesterday morning it was myself and a friend who reported and assisted the police in the recovery of a body from the river Wyre."

    READ MORE Nicola Bulley police announce press conference after body pulled from river

    "Such as it is it would be inappropriate of me to discuss in any further detail anything we may know about that body at this time, considering a formal identification of that body has yet to be confirmed. I would also like to just say a huge thank you to Lancashire police for their help, support and the open mindedness with which they dealt with us, following our call, spiritualists or mediums are obviously not something the police come across every day and I appreciate the respect given to us both.

    "It is also important to mention, I was not asked by the police or Nicola’s family to become involved in this case, but having seen the wild speculation and hurtful commentary that has been ongoing, and having previously assisted in the recovery of Michael Brooks, I decided to use what ever “gift” it is we mediums possess to try and locate Nicola Bulley. I Would however stress again, I can not confirm that body we traced yesterday is that off the lady in question.

    "My thoughts and prayers are with her family, friend and loved ones at this time and I do hope, that if it is indeed Nicola, they can find some peace with this. If it is not, I would send my prayers to the family off whomsoever it may be."

    He signed off by saying: "I would add as a final note, I will not be giving any further information or commentary at this time regarding the work involved in finding this person nor is it my place to engage in any discussion on how that body came to originally be in the water."
    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/new...itual-26287391

    Maybe it could get stranger still? I find it hard to believe that her body was in the river for three weeks, just a short way from her going 'missing' and evaded the intense search. But it may well have been, who knows? Maybe the Lancashire police truly don't know their arse from their elbow?
    The other alternative, and the autopsy will pick this up, is if the body was placed in the river after death, ie abduction. The 'expert' diver, hired by the police was absolutely adamant that her body would never have been able to go over the weir, upstream, to where her body was found.
    Rich D Hall has recently made an interesting point that running in parallel with this sad episode was/is some kind of a psychological operation that has the stench of 77th all over it.

    Given that in the UK somebody is reported missing every 90 seconds, could it be that this sorry tale was leveraged by the powers that be resulting from the frustration they are no doubt feeling from people like us, doing their own research, and scrutinising their so-called investigations (Manchester bombing anyone?), seeking to ridicule and demonise anyone willing to go outside official narratives as armchair detectives?

    Almost like they're trying to exploit certain situations and encourage people to investigate, only then to manufacture public outrage about amateur investigators and their opinions and findings.


    Could well be. Many things playing out with this one. I didn't really 'follow' this sad story from the beginning, preferring instead to observe it from a 'what are the ptb going to get out of this'? meaning that I sensed an operation playing out that was going to be used for an agenda of control, much like 9/11, 7/7 and yes, Manchester.
    The space this took up on the media was OTT, given that many, many unreported thousands of ppl go missing in the UK every year. We were constantly bombarded with the (very photogenic) face of the missing woman and I was instantly aware that that was one of the psyop tactics that the 77th often use.
    I respect and admire Rich D hall - he has a canny nose for this sort of operation. He did a great demolition job with his Maddie McCann presentations.
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    Katie Hopkins...couldn't have said it any better in this 2minute video: ....'Digital Id's are what are given to cattle on their way to slaughter'. Said in a nutshell.


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    Maybe it could get stranger still? I find it hard to believe that her body was in the river for three weeks, just a short way from her going 'missing' and evaded the intense search.

    The other alternative, and the autopsy will pick this up, is if the body was placed in the river after death, ie abduction. The 'expert' diver, hired by the police was absolutely adamant that her body would never have been able to go over the weir, upstream, to where her body was found.
    That matches many aspects of people disappearing (found dead) in America's National Parks.

    Near water or in water when they are found, or went missing from.
    Frequently found in areas that have already been searched, often not far from last seen position.

    *and from memory, there was a spate of deaths in Manchester's Canal district where a coroner was said to have apologised to victim's families that he was 'unable to explain how they had got in the water' (adlib)

    searched forum but did not turn up relevant result for 'Manchester Canal' - it was in one of the sasquatch/bigfoot threads I recall.

    Found this, from an Indepenent report.

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    Maybe it could get stranger still? I find it hard to believe that her body was in the river for three weeks, just a short way from her going 'missing' and evaded the intense search.

    The other alternative, and the autopsy will pick this up, is if the body was placed in the river after death, ie abduction. The 'expert' diver, hired by the police was absolutely adamant that her body would never have been able to go over the weir, upstream, to where her body was found.
    That matches many aspects of people disappearing (found dead) in America's National Parks.

    Near water or in water when they are found, or went missing from.
    Frequently found in areas that have already been searched, often not far from last seen position.

    *and from memory, there was a spate of deaths in Manchester's Canal district where a coroner was said to have apologised to victim's families that he was 'unable to explain how they had got in the water' (adlib)

    searched forum but did not turn up relevant result for 'Manchester Canal' - it was in one of the sasquatch/bigfoot threads I recall.

    Found this, from an Indepenent report.
    Concerning the length of time in the 'water': there'd be pretty serious decomposition by that stage if he/she (has the identity been confirmed yet?) had been in there for 3 weeks, so, just musing here but in all likelihood I think the victim was deposited there subsequent to the previous search. I'm not the ME/Coroner - obviously - so can't see the body, but that'd be just about the first observation I'd imagine, that is, how advanced the decomposition is.
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    Quote Posted by Ewan (here)
    there was a spate of deaths in Manchester's Canal district where a coroner was said to have apologised to victim's families that he was 'unable to explain how they had got in the water' (adlib)

    searched forum but did not turn up relevant result for 'Manchester Canal' - it was in one of the sasquatch/bigfoot threads I recall.
    That brought to mind one of my favourite YT channels, Bedtime Stories, who did an episode 4 years ago about the Manchester drownings. I like their videos as they always attempt to explore all angles and possibilities. Here they explore the possibility that it was the work of one perpetrator; vid is 20 minutes long.

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    Quote Posted by Tintin (here)
    Quote Posted by Ewan (here)
    Quote Posted by Mari (here)
    Maybe it could get stranger still? I find it hard to believe that her body was in the river for three weeks, just a short way from her going 'missing' and evaded the intense search.

    The other alternative, and the autopsy will pick this up, is if the body was placed in the river after death, ie abduction. The 'expert' diver, hired by the police was absolutely adamant that her body would never have been able to go over the weir, upstream, to where her body was found.
    That matches many aspects of people disappearing (found dead) in America's National Parks.

    Near water or in water when they are found, or went missing from.
    Frequently found in areas that have already been searched, often not far from last seen position.

    *and from memory, there was a spate of deaths in Manchester's Canal district where a coroner was said to have apologised to victim's families that he was 'unable to explain how they had got in the water' (adlib)

    searched forum but did not turn up relevant result for 'Manchester Canal' - it was in one of the sasquatch/bigfoot threads I recall.

    Found this, from an Indepenent report.
    Concerning the length of time in the 'water': there'd be pretty serious decomposition by that stage if he/she (has the identity been confirmed yet?) had been in there for 3 weeks, so, just musing here but in all likelihood I think the victim was deposited there subsequent to the previous search. I'm not the ME/Coroner - obviously - so can't see the body, but that'd be just about the first observation I'd imagine, that is, how advanced the decomposition is.

    The body was formally ID'd (via dental records) as Nichola's last Monday. The case is now 'in the hands of the Coroner', according to the police statement that same day. And yes, the pathologist will be easily able to determine whether death occurred before, or in the water, and how long she's been in there. I'm still scratching my head over the fact that the 'expert divers' missed her body - found only a mile from where she 'disappeared'. Their explanation was that the sonar equipment only 'read' the deep part of the river, and didn't include the banksides. Well- what about the 'experts' actually looking closely at the banks as they go along with their equipment. I mean - historically, that's where the majority of bodies end up being snagged, and subsequently discovered.
    So yes, Ewan's post above does raise some curious/interesting observations and yes, I think she may well have been deposited there after the 'search'
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    Hopefully someone will remember the post that I'm referring to that I can't find now... did anyone see the recent short vid by John O'Looney, the undertaker who exposed a lot during the scamdemic, about the real purpose of the Albanian, Iraqi and Afghan men coming illegally to Britain? I can't find that now, I think I found the link but the vid was taken down.

    In a nutshell, he said that he had been told by soldiers in the Black Watch that these men had been trained by the British Army (in Poland IIRC - edit - it said western Ukraine), taken to France and told to cross the Channel illegally. It's alleged that they had signed the Official Secrets Act and had a contract for the British Army.

    The thinking was that most of the regular British troops are to be sent to Eastern Europe soon and the 'illegals' are to remain as the domestic troops, but here's a different thought... what if they're the men to be sent east?

    The Army has been subject to a lot of cutbacks in recent years and I've seen that troop numbers are much reduced - also looking at today's British youth, do you think that many of them would be ideal conscription material? The men I knew years ago who had fought in WW2 were tough, they never had cars back then and walked or cycled everywhere and were much leaner due to a lot of exercise and healthier diets. With far more industry than we have today, many were also in hard-grafting jobs with longer working days that we presently have. (A personal aside - just after the war my dad cycled from Leicester to London and back to visit friends for a weekend - about a 200 mile round trip - when my jaw dropped he simply said' "there was less traffic back then".)

    Young people today don't have the extent of the school of hard knocks that older generations had - schools make everyone a winner even if they're mediocre, grades are inflated and everyone has to be kind. Kindness is not a bad thing, I saw bullying at school, but... is this producing fighting material?

    Thus, is this why foreign recruits are being brought here to do what our own lads aren't up to doing? Maybe they feel that the mothers and fathers of this country would not stand for whatever modern equivalent there would be of the bad news telegrams arriving at their homes?

    Just some random thoughts, what do you think?
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    Quote Posted by Brigantia (here)
    Hopefully someone will remember the post that I'm referring to that I can't find now... did anyone see the recent short vid by John O'Looney, the undertaker who exposed a lot during the scamdemic, about the real purpose of the Albanian, Iraqi and Afghan men coming illegally to Britain? I can't find that now, I think I found the link but the vid was taken down.

    In a nutshell, he said that he had been told by soldiers in the Black Watch that these men had been trained by the British Army (in Poland IIRC), taken to France and told to cross the Channel illegally. It's alleged that they had signed the Official Secrets Act and had a contract for the British Army.

    The thinking was that most of the regular British troops are to be sent to Eastern Europe soon and the 'illegals' are to remain as the domestic troops, but here's a different thought... what if they're the men to be sent east?

    The Army has been subject to a lot of cutbacks in recent years and I've seen that troop numbers are much reduced - also looking at today's British youth, do you think that many of them would be ideal conscription material? The men I knew years ago who had fought in WW2 were tough, they never had cars back then and walked or cycled everywhere and were much leaner due to a lot of exercise and healthier diets. With far more industry than we have today, many were also in hard-grafting jobs with longer working days that we presently have. (A personal aside - just after the war my dad cycled from Leicester to London and back to visit friends for a weekend - about a 200 mile round trip - when my jaw dropped he simply said' "there was less traffic back then".)

    Young people today don't have the extent of the school of hard knocks that older generations had - schools make everyone a winner even if they're mediocre, grades are inflated and everyone has to be kind. Kindness is not a bad thing, I saw bullying at school, but... is this producing fighting material?

    Thus, is this why foreign recruits are being brought here to do what our own lads aren't up to doing? Maybe they feel that the mothers and fathers of this country would not stand for whatever modern equivalent there would be of the bad news telegrams arriving at their homes?

    Just some random thoughts, what do you think?

    I didn't see the John O'Looney piece - but just using basic suspicion (and logic) in these days of fakery and treachery I wouldn't be surprised if migrant men may be being lined up to be a domestic force of some kind if/when the SHTF... there may be very unpleasant tasks planned to be done to the General Public that British men (and women) would find too onerous but foreign men kitted up so no-one would know who they were anyway - like the riot police are - - they could do the horrible things... like dragging elderly people and families out of their homes and putting them in Centres aka Concentration Camps if they don't comply with the dictates of the Ruling Elites and their minions...or even worse stuff.... these are nasty thoughts to have to have but who the hell knows what could happen as the insanity and nonsense we are subjected to continues....

    The way the migrants come over IS like an invading force... in the posh dinghies with their uniform expensive looking life jackets - I suppose the whole thing is financed by the Billionaire Globalists... it could actually be their own Private Army they are bringing in...

    Say if they are a kind of Private Army that's accumulating in the hotels up and down the land - that's a whole new level of danger - but we can't rule anything out -

    On the bright side... perhaps the migrants are just going along with something to get into the country then they will refuse to be used as troops (here or abroad) when it comes to it...... fingers crossed :/

    last paragraph may be wishful thinking but I'm saying it anyway...
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    I don't have a link, but what comes to mind is you don't attack your own nation with your own army if you can avoid it, and if you have to use your own army to attack your own nation then swap round north soldiers to do it to the south and visa versa, or west against east, or those holding pitchforks against those holding torches.

    But ideally you want people from a different nation to attack your nation. Speaking of recalling: the unmarked, un-numbered Canadian swat-like team that took down the Canadian truckers that time, that doesn't bode well. However, it also could mean anything else.

    There are some people that would love our younger generation to get tangled up in a war. But so far all the younger generation has done is vandalised their own roads (cross thread link, flag road painting).

    The younger generation can do great public protest theatre a clown act, but I'm still convinced it's fashion not passion, even though some would-be influencing powers would want to escalate the war the British people actually don't really care. I know this, I'm Gen-X.

    We should have kicked up a fuss about the grooming gangs around the country 20 years ago when Tommy Robbinson tried to, instead we tut at each other for acknowledging such things so it just goes on for twenty years while we sit around drinking tea. Meanwhile in Ireland, ... Twenty years and we don't kick off over here. We're not really into the violence I'm sure malevolent powers would love.

    They might find a way, some drama event, but God willing we can carry on with life doing the things we can do, and coming to terms with what we can't control.

    But leaving my stream of consciousness ramblings on useful point:

    Please does anyone know where to find that video by John O'Looney, about the real purpose of the Albanian, Iraqi and Afghan men coming illegally to Britain?
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    But leaving my stream of consciousness ramblings on useful point:
    Please does anyone know where to find that video by John O'Looney, about the real purpose of the Albanian, Iraqi and Afghan men coming illegally to Britain?
    Just remembered where I saw it - here you go.

    https://anti-nwo.site/satanic-united...nts.bitket.mp4

    Maybe they are the cannon fodder for the east, maybe a latter-day Gestapo for our islands, who knows. However, if the worst case scenario does come about and we live under tyranny, we can learn from history and realise that there will be a resistance movement. There will also be the passive, also the collaborators who snitch on their neighbours, though history never judges them well.
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