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    Default USA lost its COMMUNIST Party ... its freedom, virtue, and Dignity.

    In the McCarthy days when USA lost its freedom by eliminating the Communist Party of USA.
    The FBI Director Hoover was Homosexual (as was rumored Senator McCarthy) and was instrumental in destroying the communist party.

    Who can forget USA going into Chile after it democratically elected a communist leader and using a military coup de tat assassinating many in Chile.

    We CANNOT lose our dignity and virtues by not allowing free speech, in mexico where I am I investigated the slaughter of 43 students in Guerero, this was more meddling against free speech.

    This has to END !


    McCarthyism
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    U.S. anti-Communist literature of the 1950s, specifically addressing the entertainment industry
    McCarthyism is the practice of making accusations of subversion or treason without proper regard for evidence. It also means "the practice of making unfair allegations or using unfair investigative techniques, especially in order to restrict dissent or political criticism."[1] The term has its origins in the period in the United States known as the Second Red Scare, lasting roughly from 1950 to 1956 and characterized by heightened political repression against communists, as well as a campaign spreading fear of their influence on American institutions and of espionage by Soviet agents. Originally coined to criticize the anti-communist pursuits of Republican U.S. Senator Joseph McCarthy of Wisconsin, "McCarthyism" soon took on a broader meaning, describing the excesses of similar efforts. The term is also now used more generally to describe reckless, unsubstantiated accusations, as well as demagogic attacks on the character or patriotism of political adversaries.


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    Who remembers Lucille Ball? A CARD CARRYING member of USA's communist party, as were millions!
    She amongst over 1300 Hollywood actors singers and popular artists was a member of the communist party. She was threatened by the FBI telling her to publicly denounce the party or she would never work in hollywood again. She denounced it!

    The Director of the FBI (J Edgar Hoover) was a known homosexual then, and it was illegal to be homosexual. The Mob had film of his parties through a window blackmailing the FBI into submission.


    It wasn't just threats of losing work, many members were beaten, raped, their families threatened and in some cases killed.

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    And all those who had believed were together and held all things in common; and they began selling their property and possessions and were sharing them with all, as anyone might have need.

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    Anti-Communism in the 1950s
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    by Wendy Wall

    In 1950, fewer than 50,000 Americans out of a total US population of 150 million were members of the Communist Party. Yet in the late 1940s and early 1950s, American fears of internal communist subversion reached a nearly hysterical pitch. Government loyalty boards investigated millions of federal employees, asking what books and magazines they read, what unions and civic organizations they belonged to, and whether they went to church. Hundreds of screenwriters, actors, and directors were blacklisted because of their alleged political beliefs, while teachers, steelworkers, sailors, lawyers, and social workers lost their jobs for similar reasons. More than thirty-nine states required teachers and other public employees to take loyalty oaths. Meanwhile, some libraries pulled books that were considered too leftist from their shelves. The banned volumes included such classics as Robin Hood, Henry David Thoreau’s Civil Disobedience, and John Steinbeck’s The Grapes of Wrath.
    [/i] http://www.gilderlehrman.org/history...ommunism-1950s





    Hollywood blacklist

    Members of the Hollywood Ten and their families in 1950, protesting the impending incarceration of the ten
    The Hollywood blacklist—as the broader entertainment industry blacklist is generally known—was the mid-20th-century practice of denying employment to screenwriters, actors, directors, musicians, and other U.S. entertainment professionals because of their suspected political beliefs or associations. Artists were barred from work on the basis of their alleged membership in or sympathy with the Communist Party and refusal to assist investigations into the party's activities. Even during the period of its strictest enforcement, the late 1940s through the late 1950s, the blacklist was rarely made explicit or verifiable, but it directly damaged the careers of scores of individuals working in the film industry.


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    RELIGIOUS CHRISTIAN PERSPECTIVE
    Ironic that the Bible teaches communism as did Jesus
    Groups such as Mennonites, Amish, Hutterites and Dukabors still live without possessions and live sustainably and independent of society (in but not of the world) without money electricity or luxuries.

    IRONIC even more that HOOVER and McCarthy were BOTH said to be homosexuals and much evidence to support this.
    Did a couple of homosexuals ruin America by outlawing what the bible commands ?

    And take away free choice of choosing between the 2 forms of governance communism and capitalism.



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbSuabv0yY8
    Racist Homosexual. J Edgar Hoover #1

    McCarthy took over as chair of the Investigations Subcommittee of the Committee on Government Operations. He hired 25-year-old attorney Roy Cohn as his chief counsel. Cohn in turn recruited David Schine, later rumored to be his lover, to become chief consultant.

    Cohn had close contacts within the FBI. That was important for McCarthy, who reportedly worked hand-in-glove with J. Edgar Hoover's bureau between 1950 and 1953.

    One of Hoover's agents, William Sullivan, later conceded, "We were the ones who made the McCarthy hearings possible. We fed McCarthy all the material he was using."

    This information sharing was covert and quite illegal. Although bound by law to share information only with the executive branch, the bureau had also reportedly leaked background checks to Congress.

    Hoover was said to have recommended Roy Cohn for the post with McCarthy because he was impressed by the young attorney's railroading of Communist Party members Ethel Rosenberg and Julius Rosenberg to the electric chair on charges of passing atomic secrets to the Soviet Union. Hoover himself has been rumored to have had a long-term affair with an assistant, Clyde Tolson
    https://www.workers.org/2005/us/lgbtseries-0310/


    i think there is evidence hoover and McCarthy were both blackmailed/controlled after having sex with males
    illegal back then.

    if true then just 2 homosexuals ruined america

    i don't promote communism but i point out the obvious
    without a choice there's no choice = fascism/tyranny


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    Lightbulb Re: USA lost its COMMUNIST Party ... its freedom, virtue, and Dignity.

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    Default Re: USA lost its COMMUNIST Party ... its freedom, virtue, and Dignity.

    The 45 Goals of Communism from this a book written by an FBI agent tasked to infiltrate the American Communist Party in the 1950s
    Read through the list and see for yourself which have largely succeeded, or are succeeding, so far. It's pretty scary.
    1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
    2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
    3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament by the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.
    4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
    5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.
    6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.
    7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.
    8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev’s promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.
    9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.
    10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.
    11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)
    12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.
    13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.
    14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.
    15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States. – Democrat Party captured.
    16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
    17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’ associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
    18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
    19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
    20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.
    21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
    22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to “eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms.”
    23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. “Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art.”
    24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press.
    25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
    26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”
    27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a “religious crutch.”
    28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state.”
    29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
    30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the “common man.”
    31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the “big picture.” Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
    32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture–education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
    33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.
    34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
    35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.
    36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
    37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
    38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].
    39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
    40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
    41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
    42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use “united force” to solve economic, political or social problems.
    43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self- government.
    44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.
    45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.
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    Default Re: USA lost its COMMUNIST Party ... its freedom, virtue, and Dignity.

    No big loss, and the Democratic Party has replaced it.

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    Default Re: USA lost its COMMUNIST Party ... its freedom, virtue, and Dignity.

    In most of the European world, now and historically, communist parties are connected with humanitarian ideals, equality at all levels and a general resistance to the capitalistic destruction of the planet. It's hard to find anything more moral in politics. Unfortunately in the USA, this view is completely distorted due to the cold war, turning Karl Marx and socialism into some kind of arch villain, instead of recognizing that he is widely accepted as the greater economist/sociologist who analyzed accurately and philosophically the capitalistic system.

    Russia's Socialism in the 20th century was obviously a catastrophic parody. It was one more example of how the human ego misused knowledge for total domination, control and manipulation. Same as the million deaths throughout history in the name of religion or nationalism. It had nothing to do with the philosophical/scientist basis of the sociologists who developed the initial theories.

    However, the problem with communist parties is that they are too anachronistic. Their views on how to change the world are outdated, they are resistant to any kind of evolution and they are obsessive with centuries old principles of class conflict, that are simply not applicable anymore. Also, due to the superficial view that everything depends on power and class struggle, they have totally reject anything spiritual or psychological in nature, making the whole ideology barren of any depth.

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    Default Re: USA lost its COMMUNIST Party ... its freedom, virtue, and Dignity.

    Quote Posted by ZenBaller (here)
    In most of the European world, now and historically, communist parties are connected with humanitarian ideals, equality at all levels and a general resistance to the capitalistic destruction of the planet. It's hard to find anything more moral in politics. Unfortunately in the USA, this view is completely distorted due to the cold war, turning Karl Marx and socialism into some kind of arch villain, instead of recognizing that he is widely accepted as the greater economist/sociologist who analyzed accurately and philosophically the capitalistic system.



    Russia's Socialism in the 20th century was obviously a catastrophic parody. It was one more example of how the human ego misused knowledge for total domination, control and manipulation. Same as the million deaths throughout history in the name of religion or nationalism. It had nothing to do with the philosophical/scientist basis of the sociologists who developed the initial theories.



    However, the problem with communist parties is that they are too anachronistic. Their views on how to change the world are outdated, they are resistant to any kind of evolution and they are obsessive with centuries old principles of class conflict, that are simply not applicable anymore. Also, due to the superficial view that everything depends on power and class struggle, they have totally reject anything spiritual or psychological in nature, making the whole ideology barren of any depth.
    ideals are a dime a dozen
    you can't eat ideals.
    Russia put theory to the test and proved what we already knew: power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
    one might argue that China is more modern communism, but absolute power still corrupts
    absolutely and however you slice it, promoters of communism are seeking absolute power.
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    Default Re: USA lost its COMMUNIST Party ... its freedom, virtue, and Dignity.

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    ideals are a dime a dozen
    you can't eat ideals.
    Russia put theory to the test and proved what we already knew: power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
    one might argue that China is more modern communism, but absolute power still corrupts
    absolutely and however you slice it, promoters of communism are seeking absolute power.
    Ideals are not just fleeting thoughts. They are fueled by human emotions, a deep desire to do good. They are underpinned by spiritual archetypes. If a person or a society is conscious enough, not only they can bring food and abundance, but they can make this world better as a whole.

    That said, we are not ready for them. At least, so far. The problem is not Communism or any other sociological theory. As always, it's the human ego.

    Same applies with capitalism and our current western civilization. Rhetorically asking, is it better that we are under complete hypnosis while bankers, big pharma, sociopathic politicians rule countries, corrupted food industry poisons our physical body and the entertainment system poisons our mind? Does it feel better than communism because we have Starbucks and free porn? Is it normal to sell weapons around the world, bombing countries and kill millions in the name of good and God?

    I'm not comparing here, because all political systems looks equally dangerous and problematic. I'm just pointing out the obvious, because we tend to lose ourselves in duality by imagining villains.

    However, it is interesting that Russia's cultural offer to the planet is immense, even in the 20th century when Stalin wiped out millions of people with his dictatorship. I can't tell if it's better having Biden as a president while listening to violent rap songs or Putin while listening to Kissin playing Rachmaninoff.

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    Default Re: USA lost its COMMUNIST Party ... its freedom, virtue, and Dignity.

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    Quote Posted by TomKat (here)

    ideals are a dime a dozen
    you can't eat ideals.
    Russia put theory to the test and proved what we already knew: power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
    one might argue that China is more modern communism, but absolute power still corrupts
    absolutely and however you slice it, promoters of communism are seeking absolute power.
    Ideals are not just fleeting thoughts. They are fueled by human emotions, a deep desire to do good. They are underpinned by spiritual archetypes. If a person or a society is conscious enough, not only they can bring food and abundance, but they can make this world better as a whole.

    That said, we are not ready for them. At least, so far. The problem is not Communism or any other sociological theory. As always, it's the human ego.

    Same applies with capitalism and our current western civilization. Rhetorically asking, is it better that we are under complete hypnosis while bankers, big pharma, sociopathic politicians rule countries, corrupted food industry poisons our physical body and the entertainment system poisons our mind? Does it feel better than communism because we have Starbucks and free porn? Is it normal to sell weapons around the world, bombing countries and kill millions in the name of good and God?

    I'm not comparing here, because all political systems looks equally dangerous and problematic. I'm just pointing out the obvious, because we tend to lose ourselves in duality by imagining villains.

    However, it is interesting that Russia's cultural offer to the planet is immense, even in the 20th century when Stalin wiped out millions of people with his dictatorship. I can't tell if it's better having Biden as a president while listening to violent rap songs or Putin while listening to Kissin playing Rachmaninoff.
    idealists like Mussolini and Marx have caused a lot of damage in throughout history. Because when theory fails, the hammer comes down.

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    Default Re: USA lost its COMMUNIST Party ... its freedom, virtue, and Dignity.

    And it should have stayed dead.

    Marx was a horrible human being with an even worse idea.

    Socialism was overwhelmingly killed in 1951 by a book of the same name. There is no longer a valid argument for Socialism. It should just die and stay dead.

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