9/11: Truth Still Matters, Over 20 Years Later

[Kryztian]

Posted by Tintin (here)
Hatzolah (hatzoloh) dispatch release on 9-11

Picked up on this earlier and am just placing it here as a piece of film that may be important, or not at all. Some commentators claim this hatzolah dispatch footage was recorded before the first incident at WTC1, others claim that it was recorded later on that day. I honestly don't have a clue who may be right there as this is the first time I've seen this and I've watched hundreds of videos around 9/11, and many more than once. I don't really know what to make of it to be honest. Is it important, at all? You be the judge.

https://video.twimg.com/amplify_vide...C6u.mp4?tag=16

So there are a few Orthodox Jewish communities surrounding New York City. Many of them operate volunteer EMS (Amublance) services that are completely free of charge. I know this because my mother (who isn't Jewish) fell on a sidewalk and was taken to the hospital by one and it was completely free of charge (these days, that would save one over $1,000 dollars). All the people who work on the ambulances are volunteers.

Hatzolah operates several of these services and has one in Manhattan on the Lower East Side, about a 3 mile drive to the World Trade Center. To me this sounds like exactly the confusion that was experienced in the first hour or two after the towers were hit, when we knew something was wrong, but were not sure exactly what it was. At the end of the clip the dispatcher says "Unless PD [Police Department] will give you the okay ...", so this must come from a time where the Police was well aware of what was happening.

Unless there is a way to prove the time that this recording was made, I think it is a rational assumption that this video was taken after the planes hit the towers.

[Hym]

Yes, Kudos to the Hatzoloh services in NYC. They have saved many lives before, during and after 911. The service that was accused of forewarning about the false flag attacks was a cell phone service company in the city, just like those I knew in government employ who were warned to stay away on the day, to cancel appointments, indefinitely.

[norman]

click any section to expand it.

https://t.me/CaptKylePatriots/229826

[Orph]

Except the Twin Towers were hit with Boing 767's, not 747's. The wingspan of a 767 is 156 feet.

[psikeyhackr]

Greetings,

I am new here so I will apologize from the start for being blunt.

I did a search on: WTC "Conservation of Momentum"

Then: "Conservation of Momentum"

I got Zero hits on both searches.

I do not care about conspiracy theories. The destruction of the Twin Towers constitute an engineering/physics problem.

So where is the relevant data on the building? I downloaded the entire NCSTAR1 report by the NIST in 2007 and burned it to DVD. I wanted to know the tons of steel and tons of concrete on each level of the towers. I attended one of Richard Gage's Dog & Pony shows in May of 2008. I got in line after the show to ask him about it. He looked at me like I had grown a 2nd head.

I say that even if the airliner impact and fire could cause the top of the North Tower to fall, which l doubt, the top 14% of the structure could not destroy everything below. And certainly not in less than 30 seconds. The falling portion would either arrest or fall down the side.

Of course after Two Decades we have a sociological/education problem.

We have a generation, everyone born since 1996, taught to believe that a 200 ton airliner could totally destroy a 500,000 ton building in less than two hours. But scientists and engineers at NASA do not even ask about the distribution of steel.

[Tintin]

Posted by psikeyhackr (here)
Greetings,

I am new here so I will apologize from the start for being blunt.

I did a search on: WTC "Conservation of Momentum"

Then: "Conservation of Momentum"

I got Zero hits on both searches.

I do not care about conspiracy theories. The destruction of the Twin Towers constitute an engineering/physics problem.

So where is the relevant data on the building? I downloaded the entire NCSTAR1 report by the NIST in 2007 and burned it to DVD. I wanted to know the tons of steel and tons of concrete on each level of the towers. I attended one of Richard Gage's Dog & Pony shows in May of 2008. I got in line after the show to ask him about it. He looked at me like I had grown a 2nd head.

I say that even if the airliner impact and fire could cause the top of the North Tower to fall, which l doubt, the top 14% of the structure could not destroy everything below. And certainly not in less than 30 seconds. The falling portion would either arrest or fall down the side.

Of course after Two Decades we have a sociological/education problem.

We have a generation, everyone born since 1996, taught to believe that a 200 ton airliner could totally destroy a 500,000 ton building in less than two hours. But scientists and engineers at NASA do not even ask about the distribution of steel.

Welcome aboard

I collected some information about the tower structures and included the architects drawing blueprints in our library some years ago now.

You can find them here and I hope they can provide some help.

The Tower blueprints: https://avalonlibrary.net/?dir=911/W...r%20Blueprints

WTC buildings history and contents: https://avalonlibrary.net/?dir=911/W...and%20contents

[Satori]

Posted by psikeyhackr (here)
Greetings,

I am new here so I will apologize from the start for being blunt.

I did a search on: WTC "Conservation of Momentum"

Then: "Conservation of Momentum"

I got Zero hits on both searches.

I do not care about conspiracy theories. The destruction of the Twin Towers constitute an engineering/physics problem.

So where is the relevant data on the building? I downloaded the entire NCSTAR1 report by the NIST in 2007 and burned it to DVD. I wanted to know the tons of steel and tons of concrete on each level of the towers. I attended one of Richard Gage's Dog & Pony shows in May of 2008. I got in line after the show to ask him about it. He looked at me like I had grown a 2nd head.

I say that even if the airliner impact and fire could cause the top of the North Tower to fall, which l doubt, the top 14% of the structure could not destroy everything below. And certainly not in less than 30 seconds. The falling portion would either arrest or fall down the side.

Of course after Two Decades we have a sociological/education problem.

We have a generation, everyone born since 1996, taught to believe that a 200 ton airliner could totally destroy a 500,000 ton building in less than two hours. But scientists and engineers at NASA do not even ask about the distribution of steel.

May I suggest that you read the following? Written, peer reviewed and published in 2015. Http://www.journalof911studies.com/r...eyVol40Mar.pdf.

[psikeyhackr]

Posted by Tintin (here)

Posted by psikeyhackr (here)
Greetings,

I am new here so I will apologize from the start for being blunt.

I did a search on: WTC "Conservation of Momentum"

Then: "Conservation of Momentum"

I got Zero hits on both searches.

I do not care about conspiracy theories. The destruction of the Twin Towers constitute an engineering/physics problem.

So where is the relevant data on the building? I downloaded the entire NCSTAR1 report by the NIST in 2007 and burned it to DVD. I wanted to know the tons of steel and tons of concrete on each level of the towers. I attended one of Richard Gage's Dog & Pony shows in May of 2008. I got in line after the show to ask him about it. He looked at me like I had grown a 2nd head.

I say that even if the airliner impact and fire could cause the top of the North Tower to fall, which l doubt, the top 14% of the structure could not destroy everything below. And certainly not in less than 30 seconds. The falling portion would either arrest or fall down the side.

Of course after Two Decades we have a sociological/education problem.

We have a generation, everyone born since 1996, taught to believe that a 200 ton airliner could totally destroy a 500,000 ton building in less than two hours. But scientists and engineers at NASA do not even ask about the distribution of steel.

Welcome aboard

I collected some information about the tower structures and included the architects drawing blueprints in our library some years ago now.

You can find them here and I hope they can provide some help.

The Tower blueprints: https://avalonlibrary.net/?dir=911/W...r%20Blueprints

WTC buildings history and contents: https://avalonlibrary.net/?dir=911/W...and%20contents

Most of the stories were 12 ft high. So that would be 47 times 12 ft of vertical steel in the core at that level. There are diagrams of the cross sections of the columns in the core all of the way up the building. But the length of horizontal steel on each level should have been about 2 1/2 times as much. How thick was it? Did it vary down the building.


I talked about this with Lon Waters PhD years ago. He had a website about the core columns. He said that he coul not find data on the horizontal beams. This “just look at the blueprints" is nonsense.

We need to know how much mass was hitting how much mass. The NCSTAR1 report does not even specify the total amount of concrete in the towers. I have told people that for years. Someone even told me it was there and that I was just too lazy and stupid to find it. Of course he never provided a quote and specified where it was.

[onawah]

I think the relevant info can be found somewhere here:Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth
https://www0.ae911truth.org/
Though I couldn't say precisely where....

[psikeyhackr]

Posted by Satori (here)
May I suggest that you read the following? Written, peer reviewed and published in 2015. Http://www.journalof911studies.com/r...eyVol40Mar.pdf.

I do not see any relevant information in that.

I am looking at this strictly from a physics perspective.

The Conservation of Momentum had to affect the collapse time of the North Tower.

Suppose we could create a perfect computer simulation of the North Tower.
Then raise the top 20 stories 64 feet and drop it. What would happen?

The bottom of the 91st level would impact the top of the 90th level at 64 ft/sec or 43.6 mph.

There shouldn't be very much difference between adjacent levels so they should destroy each other about equally and slow down the falling mass. Then 89 and 92 duke it out and the differences start to increase. The levels get lighter and weaker above 91 and stronger and heavier below 89. So even if the falling mass could destroy levels in a 3 to 1 ratio that would destroy 60 stories and leave 30 standing.

Of course we know that did not happen.

So how has the academia of the nation that put men on the Moon allowed this scientific anomaly to drag on for Two Decades?

I call it the Twin Towers Affair after the Galileo Affair.

[psikeyhackr]

https://psikeyhackr.livejournal.com/1276.html

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZT4BXIpdIdo

[mountain_jim]

https://x.com/TheWakeninq/status/1816683801868665143

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@TheWakeninq
Breaking News Alert: Newly discovered footage of the 9/11 attacks has emerged after 23 years. Uploaded by Kei Sugimoto, this video captures never-before-seen angles of the collapse of the World Trade Center.

The footage reveals controlled demolition explosions during the towers’ fall, providing unique perspectives that were not previously captured from the South or East of the towers.


old video but still relevant

https://x.com/catturd2/status/1816816779617861857

[Dumpster Diver]

A little bit of personal data:

When I worked in Las Vegas, I got to talk to one of the folks who dropped the old Vegas Hotels with charges: he claimed that, at best, it is a 1/10 chance a tall slender building can fall within its own footprint. He talked about how tough it is to wire a hotel, and set charges so that an implosion will not damage other structures. He went on to say he thought the chance was between 1/10 to 1/100, and probably closer to 1/100. Now, taking the higher number, 1/10, and multiplying it over the 3 buildings which fell within their own footprint that day, you get 1/10*1/10*1/10 = 1/1000 chance of that happening “by chance.”

On the Pentagon: I once worked in the very same “slice” that was hit by a 9/11 “aircraft”. That section had recently been renovated (and hardened) to withstand terrorist car-bombs (which was believed to be the biggest threat). I know (since I worked in that same section) a highly classified Navy SCIF was located deep in that section and yet was destroyed by the impact. The SCIF’s walls were steel-reinforced concrete. Now, I have also worked on weapons effects and the only way anything would penetrate so deep to take out the SCIF was if it was one of our “bunker buster” weapons…i.e. an impacting aircraft would simply splash the outside of the building and perhaps penetrate a few feet into the reinforced outside of the newly refinished section. Also, as part of the terrorist “improvements” every part of the Pentagon is covered by multiple video cameras, both inside and outside. You can’t do anything outside that building without 3-5 cameras catching your movements…and yet not a single frame of video exists of an impacting airplane…or anything else.

I think that SCIF held important info. Unfortunately, I never got entry into that SCIF as my clearance, at the time, was not high enough, nor was I working a Navy project.

…so, nothing “provable”… just a few viewpoints.

[Rizotto]

"Newly revealed footage of the 9/11 attacks confirms what we've already reported that planes did not bring down the twin towers. Ted Walter is the Executive Director of the \International Center for 9/11 Justice and he joins us to discuss these latest details."

BOMBSHELL NEW FOOTAGE OF 9/11 ATTACKS CONFIRMS CONTROLLED DEMOLITION OF TOWERS | Redacted News

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=2AhKtflg4Fo

[ExomatrixTV]

• download mp4

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=d2swthKphy0

[thepainterdoug]

Well, another 9/11 will pass. There is still much being pursued and ground being made by various people in the truther field today. Building 7, will not wash. It makes no sense and even smart people, educated normies are slowly coming around.
Admitting being wrong, very hard for people.

I want to share my tribute, an original painting to a first responder, a friend Larry, who put himself in peril in the rubble and then was overlooked by gov, and to those lost, my friend Kevin , and all others that day sacrificed for a fabricated war.



"First Responders", oil on canvas 24x30. dauld

[ExomatrixTV]

• 911-Conspiracy Finally Solved!: Names, Connections, Motives, 911Matrix of Details Exposed!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=CdE1Cwnymzc

almost 1,000,000 views

[ExomatrixTV]

• Jimmy Dore: 9/11 still matters!:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=VeSYNDwbyVA

[Akasha]

Truth still matters 23 years later. If anything, more.

[Rizotto]

Question for you all about 9/11. The WTC buildings had withstood the planes crashes quite well, but then suddenly crumble in about 10 seconds each as they also explode outwards and upwards. This would be one of the most significant evidence of pre-planted explosives in the building. But videos of the 10 second collapse seemed to have been suppressed from MSM TV networks after 9/11. My question: when exactly did you become aware that the buildings collapsed within 10 seconds?

As far as I know, the videos of the buildings' 10 seconds collapse were played on MSM TV networks only that day, September 11, 2001. I was out in the bush for a week at that time, so I never saw those videos. When I came back to town, the world had changed, and every TV network played non-stop the videos of the planes crashing into the buildings with huge fireballs. For months afterward, I never saw any videos on TV of the buildings crumblings in 10 seconds.

In fact, I never even knew FOR YEARS after 9/11 that the buildings had actually collapsed in 10 seconds. Not until I saw a video years later of a 9/11 witness noting with astonishment that the buildings had crumbled within 10 seconds. That really tweaked my interest, how could that be possible. And thus my journey of researching 9/11 began.

Obviously there has been a concerted effort at high levels and the MSM to fool the public after 9/11 by only playing on TV the spectacular plane crash videos, but suppressing the videos of the 10 second buildings collapse and witnesses' reports of explosions. (I wasn't on the internet in those days, fact is internet was just beginning in my part of the world.)

When I discovered this 'omission' and had a chance to view on independent channels the many videos of the collapse, I tried describing to friends the buildings' 10 second collapse. They simply didn't believe me, were uninterested to view the evidence, and started to avoid me. By the way, they're also the same people who unquestioningly followed the covid mandates and took the clot shots. But I digress.

We can't underestimate the power of the media in altering our perception of reality. Here's a couple of videos of the 10 second collapse, just to drive the point.

9/11: The Towers Collapse

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=kWCDA09XFT0

David Chandler's - The North Tower exploding

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=-D9nV5Bj2qY