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    Default Skies Over Ukraine Swarming With UFOs/UAPs

    Cosmic' and 'phantom' UFOs are all over Ukraine's skies, government report claims

    Astronomers observed dozens of objects that "cannot be scientifically identified."


    Night sky over Kyiv, Ukraine, 2020.

    The skies over Kyiv are swarming with unidentified flying objects (UFOs), according to a new report from the Main Astronomical Observatory of the National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine.

    Of course, given that Russia and Ukraine have been locked in a months-long war that relies heavily on aircraft and drones, it's likely that many of these so-called UFOs are military tools that appear too fleetingly to identify, a U.S. intelligence agency has speculated.

    Published to the preprint database arXiv, the report — which has not yet been peer-reviewed — describes recent steps that Ukrainian astronomers have taken to monitor fast-moving, low-visibility objects in the daytime sky over Kyiv and the surrounding villages. Using specially calibrated cameras at two weather stations in Kyiv and Vinarivka, a village about 75 miles (120 kilometers) to the south, astronomers observed dozens of objects "that cannot scientifically be identified as known natural phenomena," the report said.

    Government agencies tend to refer to such objects as UAP, short for "unidentified aerial phenomena."

    "We observe a significant number of objects whose nature is not clear," the team wrote. "We see them everywhere."

    The researchers divided their UAP observations into two categories: "cosmics" and "phantoms." According to the report, cosmics are luminous objects that are brighter than the background sky. These objects are designated with birds' names — such as "swift," "falcon" and "eagle" — and have been observed flying solo as well as in "squadrons," the team wrote.

    Phantoms, by contrast, are dark objects, usually appearing "completely black," as if absorbing all light falling onto them, the team added. By comparing observations from the two participating observatories, the researchers estimated that phantoms range from 10 to 40 feet (3 to 12 meters) wide and can travel at speeds of up to 33,000 mph (53,000 km/h). For comparison, an intercontinental ballistic missile can reach speeds of up to 15,000 mph (24,000 km/h), according to The Center for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation.

    The researchers did not speculate as to what these UFOs may be. Rather, their paper focuses on the methods and calculations used to detect the objects. However, according to a 2021 report from the U.S. Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI), it's likely that at least some UAP are "technologies deployed by China, Russia, another nation, or a non-governmental entity."

    Given the ongoing Russian invasion of Ukraine, which began in February 2022, it's reasonable to suspect that some UAP described in the new report may be linked to foreign surveillance or military technologies.

    According to the ODNI report, other possible explanations for UAP include "airborne clutter," such as birds and balloons; atmospheric phenomena, such as ice crystals; or classified government projects. Neither the U.S. nor Ukraine reports raise the possibility of extraterrestrial visitors.

    The U.S. government has openly renewed its interest in UAP investigations since 2017, when several videos taken by U.S. Navy aircraft leaked to the media. The now-infamous videos showed unidentified aircraft moving in seemingly impossible ways, with no explanation.

    The government subsequently declassified the footage and recently revealed that more military footage of UAP encounters does exist, though the Department of Defense (DOD) will not be releasing them due to "national security concerns." Earlier this year, Congress approved funding for the DOD to open a new office focused exclusively on managing reports of UFO sightings by the U.S. military. The authors of the new UAP report out of Ukraine added that the country's National Academy of Science is interested in contributing to this ongoing research.



    Source: https://www.livescience.com/ukraine-ufo-uap-report

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    Adding the image here because sometimes they don't show in the Safari browser.

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    Adding the image here because sometimes they don't show in the Safari browser.

    Could those be searchlights pointed upwards, looking for Russian planes?

    On the other hand, UFO sighting do go up during war time. It seems that "they" are interested in our war games.

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    Quote Posted by Kryztian (here)


    Could those be searchlights pointed upwards, looking for Russian planes?

    On the other hand, UFO sighting do go up during war time. It seems that "they" are interested in our war games.
    A reverse image search shows that that ‘searchlights’ image is used in many print articles, however, it does not appear in the arXiv pre-print doc that broke the story. So, the image is click bait.

    The arXiv doc is interesting though, I had never heard of those photo analysis techniques. Plus, 15 km/s is hella fast.

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    Yup.. they're pretty fast.. aren't they?

    Imagine the speed they get, in space?

    Wheeee!.... 15km/s speed?

    like this..

    https://imgur.com/a/IvLnzdM
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    On the other hand, UFO sighting do go up during war time. It seems that "they" are interested in our war games.
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    OMG, is this rehearsal night for bluebeam?

    The location and general standoff scenario would be their perfect Hail Mary.
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    Quote Posted by Johnnycomelately (here)
    Plus, 15 km/s is hella fast.
    That's 54000 km/h, or 33554.044 mph, or Italy to westcoast of the US in about 10 minutes.

    That's a bit slower than what I kind of calculated at nine yrs of age, when I saw my "first one".

    As I said before, "that's the way to travel". Beautiful.
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    They're just simply waiting to see if Russia would nuke Ukraine...

    Do you think?

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    They're just simply waiting to see if Russia would nuke Ukraine...

    Do you think?
    Or a preamble to zapping Russia from the sky and proclaiming some kind of divine intervention to launch the new world religion and their false messiah.

    Only throwing a wild idea out here, but there are signs that is actually the direction they want to go.
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    Laser lights show -Northern Lights over Kiev

    The above show was conducted more than year ago before the war erupted in Ukraine but realise that laser lights including big ones are now commonly used in capitals and tourist zones , some permanently, some on occasion and yes they literally “reach to the skies” and create massive light phenomena when reflected in cloudy overcast.

    The picture enclosed above is most certainly for illustration and was created on computer, looks pretty unrealistic from casual perspective moreso considering that Kiev is partially in war zone now and probably not the postcard type of city full of night entertainment nowadays,
    even for laser lights pointing up in perfect synchronicity and angle,

    I suggest that believers in the “image” contact creators of the source article for verification.

    One could speculate that people who own strong laser torches would use them during the war in attempt to target enemy airplanes.
    As long as in amateur hands the chance they would actually hit even one navigation system of an aircraft may be insignificant (?)
    but they could in fact generate plenty of UAPs.

    As far as politics including Mother Mary goes I tend to agree with Norman above.


    ETs intervening in human wars is very vulnerable idea whatsoever ( and if they agreed to do that , is there any other place to start , how many humans would urgently need such intervention ? Think of people of North Korea for example).


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    So far we know that the Russians won't employ their latest drones, because they don't want their newest tech falling into NATOs hands, this is why they have bought Iranian made reverse engineered US drones, so it is highly unlikely to be Russian in origin.

    Plus Russia has very good satellites, which can get very high res images of anywhere on earth.

    The west keeps trying to frame the conflict in western terms, but it clearly is not the intention of Russia to turn Kiev or any other city to rubble or they would have done that on day one, they have both the heavy bombers and the missiles to do that very easily. Putin stated very clearly what their objectives are.

    What is being recorded & openly talked about here is something that has been here a very long time, they know that, but leaking a bit of data (that no one can do anything with) is good to keep the fear going & builds on the case for huge budgets to "deal" with the issue, just like the TTSA has been doing.

    The "watchers" aren't called the watchers for nothing.



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    When I was young kid - that’s back in the dark times of Soviet Union, the Warsaw pact and the Cold War (70s in short), the “informed saying” went that all wars are virtually artificial and exist only because power players on both and many sides need to test-use their weapons in battlefield situation .

    Ukraine the Eastern most Soviet state was their missile silo at the same time and later I’ve heard from inside source that the very command of Warsaw Pact was situated in Western Ukraine ( in underground military base).

    It’s rather clear that the sole reason for objecting Ukraine being independent of Russia were their weapons and fear that some if not most of them no matter how obsolete would get to hands of the EU and NATO.
    The very proof of this was invasion and annexation of Crimea which hosted more than “just weapons” but whole nuclear submarine arsenal and bases and who knows what else.
    The rest of it is also coming into obvious: since Ukraine did not agree on “peaceful demiliritarisation” which equals submission to Russia they were attacked under the presumption that any weapons they may be hiding or aware of will be used to their defense and destroyed in fight.

    What Spiral says is absolutely true tho: all countries working out much more sophisticated weapons nowadays , I prefer not to name or think about those, other than nuclear weapons that could annihilate either cities, people or both in very short time without much hassle.

    The threat is still very high in my opinion that someone will try even one of them and make us all feel like laughing stock.

    In short, there is always the risk that even one human involved and responsible for the conflict will lose their patience and their character completely which is unpredictable and consequences of which would be catastrophic.

    Counter question to that statement could be: “why would they do that if (IF) Ukraine was actually running short of weapons as broadcasted by MSM ?

    I think then, there has to be something priceless buried in there even Ukrainians have little idea about . DUMBS holding more clues ? Labs from “the before time”?
    I don’t know.

    Radars ? Pilot projects Russian defense is short of ? Some extra gold from the WWII robberies ?

    Whatever it is, Russia is obviously not wishing to stop on the idea and knowing how materialistic are humans of today in general ,
    I do not believe the spiritual narrative concerning this war ( or any other war) even for a nanosecond.

    Michael Salla or his secret source suggested “buried space arc”.

    But it could be another secret nuclear silo or power source of unknown magnitude deep under they are so worried about .

    The way how people ( Ukrainians) react, fearing the worst and UFOs being observed in mass it seems to me that the threat is known to them even subliminally and that it’s something real we are not being in the know about.


    As Narendra Modiji the PM of India allegedly suggested to Putin on side walks just days ago “this is not the age of war , it’s the age of communication and search for better solutions”.
    Allegedly again, Mr Putin kind of nodded to it, kind of paled and vanished

    So guess what we all feel more concerned now no matter who and where we are.

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    Quote Posted by Agape (here)

    Counter question to that statement could be: “why would they do that if (IF) Ukraine was actually running short of weapons as broadcasted by MSM ?

    I think then, there has to be something priceless buried in there even Ukrainians have little idea about .
    The Ukraine and, surprisingly, the Netherlands have an enormous amount going on underground.

    My source for that is the lady in the first part of THIS video. The video isn't where/when she said it but I think you'll grasp the gravity of the source if you watch it. I regard her as the most important whistle blower I've heard of, including that old crop of Camelot whistle blowers. Meanwhile, most of the internet that's even aware of her are, oddly, arguing over her being an evil witch deceiving us or not. Funny how that works.
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    SOLUTION TO MYSTERY UFO/UAP'S OVER UKRAINE: As I have mentioned on Avalon elsewhere, we are living under the NAZI FOURTH REICH. Hitler paid his stolen GOLD to companies in the USA which fall under the heading of Aerospace. These companies DESIGNED, TESTED AND ARE FLYING THE TR3B TRIANGULAR CRAFTS, ETC. I have read they have done Inter-dimensional Galactic Flights, have been seen on the Moon and all over the sky. The same goes for the Saucer and other shaped craft flying around. In my own language, I describe them as Anti-gravitic/quick angular and frequency change, computer-controlled craft capable of Interdimensional flight in our Universe, traversing quantum distances in a Flash.

    Please remember that Ukraine is said to be the home of real Nazis, presently backed by Biden, et al, our criminal occupiers posing as government backing Ukraine. Therefore, whose space craft is flying surveillance??? They are obviously communicating with Nazi ground control the where, when and how of the Russians on the ground. I feel sorry for Mr. Putin and his people. He had every right to remove the Genocidal Laboratories on his borders. Kerry Cassidy of Project Camelot says there is more going on here and includes Reptilian Headquarters underground enemy activity against Humanity. The Reptilians under Antarctica working with the Nazi space program jointly from the end of WWII in an effort to fight Reptilian enemies in space was stated as the reason for their alliance. I have also read there are Reptilians walking the halls of the Pentagon. So, it is no wonder that no one will say a word about the Nazi Space Fleet overhead. And to think that any effort at stopping this dangerous conflict is to be mediated by the likes of Soros, Schwab, Kissinger and other Genocidalists! TIME FOR ALL GOOD PEOPLE TO STEP UP AND SAY NO.

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    Tip: The Black Sea was "treated"... and it's now in every waters of Ukraine all the way to the Baltic Sea.

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    SOLUTION TO MYSTERY UFO/UAP'S OVER UKRAINE: As I have mentioned on Avalon elsewhere, we are living under the NAZI FOURTH REICH. Hitler paid his stolen GOLD to companies in the USA which fall under the heading of Aerospace. These companies DESIGNED, TESTED AND ARE FLYING THE TR3B TRIANGULAR CRAFTS, ETC. I have read they have done Inter-dimensional Galactic Flights, have been seen on the Moon and all over the sky. The same goes for the Saucer and other shaped craft flying around. In my own language, I describe them as Anti-gravitic/quick angular and frequency change, computer-controlled craft capable of Interdimensional flight in our Universe, traversing quantum distances in a Flash.

    Please remember that Ukraine is said to be the home of real Nazis, presently backed by Biden, et al, our criminal occupiers posing as government backing Ukraine. Therefore, whose space craft is flying surveillance??? They are obviously communicating with Nazi ground control the where, when and how of the Russians on the ground. I feel sorry for Mr. Putin and his people. He had every right to remove the Genocidal Laboratories on his borders. Kerry Cassidy of Project Camelot says there is more going on here and includes Reptilian Headquarters underground enemy activity against Humanity. The Reptilians under Antarctica working with the Nazi space program jointly from the end of WWII in an effort to fight Reptilian enemies in space was stated as the reason for their alliance. I have also read there are Reptilians walking the halls of the Pentagon. So, it is no wonder that no one will say a word about the Nazi Space Fleet overhead. And to think that any effort at stopping this dangerous conflict is to be mediated by the likes of Soros, Schwab, Kissinger and other Genocidalists! TIME FOR ALL GOOD PEOPLE TO STEP UP AND SAY NO.

    Nazis is a term inherited from bloody WWII.

    Nationalism, on the other hand is still kind of common in this world, dark remnant of unforgiving past debts and crimes committed by some of our ancestors depending on what side did they find themselves at that time,
    nationalism only defends a group of people but can be quite mistaken in its stand towards humanity as a whole thus impeding every effort for qualified communication and solutions that would make sense,
    including total abuse of resources .

    We have seen influx of both Russian and Ukrainian refugees in the EU through past 30 years , long before this years war started and incremental difference between the two.

    Most Russian refugees were well off people who always had to be or play “the boss”. Some people do admire the quality of them being so self assured under all circumstances and bossy. It’s their preferred national characteristics save for so called sheepish ( I mean the opposite now) normal people who are kind hearted, sober minded and don’t want to stick above anyone else just like the rest of us.

    Ukrainian refugees on the other hand kept coming very humbled , humiliated , sometimes starved in great numbers ( because the situation of Ukraine was that of ravaged , disorganised country, bossed by Russians at all times),
    people with several degrees in education ended up working mostly at supermarket lines and counters, I’ve never seen one Ukrainian who would take it on someone else.

    There may be few baddies at the wheel in every other country at any time for sure.

    Their nationalism was certainly supported and created artificially on inside because they had no ego left.
    Do you know how does it feel having no ego left after centuries of abuse that can’t be proven so easily while someone else “owns and disowns “ you at their will?

    Quite like mistreated animals they were.

    I don’t believe in wars and weapons, did I say that previously and for sure this war can not help them out, it can’t be won easily without huge support
    but ..
    lowering some of Russian super blown egos they feel entitled to in the name of history and presumed spiritual entitlement is nearly impossible and equals assisted suicides in my opinion.

    Eventually, every overgrown human intelligence on this Planet turns self destructive.

    Once it encounters its own genetic “omega codes” and starts implementing them to be “the most genuine and advanced” of us all they are doomed and potentially we all are doomed. No matter what they say about it on TV , the actions they take speak the most.
    Not very different from suicide bombers of other nations but here, they act in mass.

    Again they send their young people to die in their war.

    No the danger is not in or on Ukraine, the danger is on Russia turning itself to graveyard at some point because they’re in pickle unless all the nonsense above can be also stopped in favour of being “normal citizen of this world and other worlds”.

    Quite like the rest of us who were never soooo attached to our cultural identity. Instead being just “special for being Russians”.

    There are many special people on this planet for sure even then, we all rarely understand well our role and value of our predicament for humanity and it’s future.

    If someone have so much space, resources and intelligence far there in the North but instead building up own country and sharing resources with others intends mostly on taking and fighting for what is not needed to them , in gesture of absurd vanity and loss of awareness of interconnectedness of Life surely they are on path of downfall creating bigger and bigger debt towards all of us.


    But don’t trust me on it all , I would prefer to be wrong and see a quiet good ending of this suffering.


    I see more things to come like the destruction of Kremlin whose role role in past caused much evil and shifting the power center somewhere to St Petersburg or even Kiev perhaps, could be why Ukraine is being taken at the moment.



    [Anyone who has received my personal message recently: kindly realise that this forum is not a place to share personal situations that are running and kindly do not expect I’d be so feeble minded to cross the line. So anyone lurking out for “something else” please rethink. Decent and intelligent people do not - should not- collapse mentally in that manner, please don’t make us all feel more ashamed by misreading us. Thank you 💫]
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