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    Default Re: Nord Stream 1 & 2 Pipeline Sabotage

    Nordstream Pipeline sabotage confirmed through seismology - Chris Sanders has interesting evidence and a smoking gun
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    Default Re: Nord Stream 1 & 2 Pipeline Sabotage

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    I mean.. come on.. you gotta have at least 1,100 lbs of TNT to blow that pipe, to even register on the seismographs as a 2.0 earthquake. Think about it.

    Plus on top of all that.. "Where's the fire" ?? Surely an detonation of that kind, would produce fire, would it not?

    (sorry for the double post, but I had to put it out there)
    Nope because no where near that amount of explosive as already mentioned, plus a fire from over 100 meters underwater ? Seriously ? Where is the oxygen coming from lol.

    You are just trolling aren't you ?

    Well.. wouldn't it be cool if a lightning bolt happen to hit the surface of the gas? :O ...

    Which is bad/worse ?..gas escaping into the environment or burning it off?
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    Default Re: Nord Stream 1 & 2 Pipeline Sabotage

    As if!
    As if TNT was the only weapon that could be used. We still don't know what all comprises the arsenal TPTB have at their disposal.

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    I mean.. come on.. you gotta have at least 1,100 lbs of TNT to blow that pipe, to even register on the seismographs as a 2.0 earthquake. Think about it.

    Plus on top of all that.. "Where's the fire" ?? Surely an detonation of that kind, would produce fire, would it not?

    (sorry for the double post, but I had to put it out there)
    Nope because no where near that amount of explosive as already mentioned, plus a fire from over 100 meters underwater ? Seriously ? Where is the oxygen coming from lol.

    You are just trolling aren't you ?

    Well.. wouldn't it be cool if a lightning bolt happen to hit the surface of the gas? :O ...

    Which is bad/worse ?..gas escaping into the environment or burning it off?
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    Nordstream Pipeline sabotage confirmed through seismology - Chris Sanders has interesting evidence and a smoking gun
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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    As if!
    As if TNT was the only weapon that could be used. We still don't know what all comprises the arsenal TPTB have at their disposal.

    Quote Posted by Anu Raman (here)
    Quote Posted by Spiral (here)
    Quote Posted by Anu Raman (here)
    I mean.. come on.. you gotta have at least 1,100 lbs of TNT to blow that pipe, to even register on the seismographs as a 2.0 earthquake. Think about it.

    Plus on top of all that.. "Where's the fire" ?? Surely an detonation of that kind, would produce fire, would it not?

    (sorry for the double post, but I had to put it out there)
    Nope because no where near that amount of explosive as already mentioned, plus a fire from over 100 meters underwater ? Seriously ? Where is the oxygen coming from lol.

    You are just trolling aren't you ?

    Well.. wouldn't it be cool if a lightning bolt happen to hit the surface of the gas? :O ...

    Which is bad/worse ?..gas escaping into the environment or burning it off?
    Ahh seems like it's over!

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nord-st...y-agency-says/

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    Default Re: Nord Stream 1 & 2 Pipeline Sabotage

    Hmmm. If there really were leaks or a leak it is not likely that the leak(s) stopped by themselves. So,

    There was no leak(s), or

    The leak(s) was repaired (permanently or temporarily), or

    They shut off the flow of gas, or

    This article is wrong, or,

    ........?

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    I think Russia had it turned off for a while, just that the remaining gas leaked out... and finally stopped. NS1 or NS2 or both.. I dont know

    https://news.yahoo.com/russia-shuts-...213253802.html

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    Default Re: Nord Stream 1 & 2 Pipeline Sabotage

    I think that’s it. The cbsNews article is totes bare bones.

    The pressure is probably the water column, measured down from the sea surface, of the flooded pipe at wherever that equals the pressure of the remaining confined gas (as the pipe must be closed at both ends). An uphill gradient back towards the pressure-meter would stop the water flow, the depth below surface where it stopped gives the ‘head’. I wonder if there are pressure meters at both ends, and if so then what could be learned from that — so far, we have only heard from the supply end.

    The crime scene should provide clear evidence of what took place there, if parties other than the perpetrator are permitted to investigate.

    Keeping that last thought in mind, I think it’s unlikely that the breach was caused by a device within the pipe (which surely could be done), on account of damning ‘fingerprints’.

    I feel like an ogre for enjoying all the talk about this aspect of this current Big Mess. Oof.



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    I think Russia had it turned off for a while, just that the remaining gas leaked out... and finally stopped. NS1 or NS2 or both.. I dont know

    https://news.yahoo.com/russia-shuts-...213253802.html

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    Well.. it would have to be a very powerful device in order to penetrate that cement laden pipe... hmm.. This is why I assumed earlier that at least 1100 lbs of TNT would have to be used.. because that pipe, if you look at manufacturing specs, it's that tough.. but again, it could be something very tiny, but has equal strength.. don't know, really.. need to examine for evidence.

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    Did you pull that number (1,100#) out of your ‘hat’? Haha, no matter. 8)

    Depending on the pressure they maintained in that enclosure, the sudden release of it may have contributed to the seismic signal which iiuc you are basing your estimate on. I am not a petrochemical-head, so have no idea even what or why is that pressure.

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    Well.. it would have to be a very powerful device in order to penetrate that cement laden pipe... hmm.. This is why I assumed earlier that at least 1100 lbs of TNT would have to be used.. because that pipe, if you look at manufacturing specs, it's that tough.. but again, it could be something very tiny, but has equal strength.. don't know, really.. need to examine for evidence.

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    yea, had to assume... because the specifications of the pipe are so tough. Could be more or less though.

    They keep saying "sabotage" but yet they're not actually looking at other possibilities..

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    • The Nord Stream Pipeline False Flag Is A War on Germany 🇩🇪 (Not Ukraine) What You NEED To Know!

    The Nord Stream Pipeline which connects Russia to the EU via Germany has been sabotaged and when asking the question cui bono, the only logical outcome is NATO along with its allies like the US, Poland, Britain, the Danish and the Swedish militaries. Putin could have turned the taps off if he wanted to but that would imply Moscow losing key strategic leverage over the EU, which wouldn’t make any sense!! In this video Dan Dicks of Press For Truth cuts through the propaganda and debunks the narrative that this was a false flag operation carried out by Putin, while proving that NATO and its allies are the only ones who are benefiting from cutting energy ties between Russia and the EU and it’s all happening at the expense of the German people!

    An anonymous source within the US intelligence community has leaked knowledge of an apparent plan by the Russians to launch a false flag attack that is to be blamed on Ukraine as a pretext to justify an invasion of Ukraine as over 100,000 Russian troops gather along the border. Meanwhile a cyber attack has been launch on Ukraine with blame already being pointed at the Russians even though they themselves just took down a group of the cyber hacking criminals known as REvil. In this video Dan Dicks of Press For Truth explains that the real false flag here is the notion that the Russians are going to carry out a false flag and it’s all being perpetuated by NATO and the Biden administration in an effort to gain more control both over the region and also at home!

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    Who Pulled the Trigger on Nord Stream?

    Translation of Video below starting at 13;40

    “a ‘masked’ Navy Sub Hunter is first detected coming in from the west. He may have had his transponder off at that time and is incorporated with a ‘rolling hex code’ which allows pilot to change his identity so it is not easily tracked. The plane first flies over the Nord Stream location and then meets up on a refueling cycle which is completed at about 25,000 feet..then the Navy Sub Hunter returns to the NS location and descends to about 10,800 feet and remains there from about 2:30 am until about 4:30 am. The plane is also referred to as a P8 Poseiden ‘masked’ military/navy aircraft. At approximately 4:30 am, the Navy plane continues west. I have not had a chance to check what type of aircraft might be part of the USS Kearsarge which was also in the Baltic Sea area at the time….”

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    Here is an interesting possible answer regarding the charge. Please see 25: plus a few minutes, about a US PA-8 flight near the crime scene within about an hour of the event, which plane-type is supposedly currently being tested to carry an air-drop-kitted Mk-48 torpedo. The wiki says nothing about the charge, but says it is designed to break the keel of capital ships.

    Those torps have a passive sonar mode, besides an active one, so my idea is that the prior ‘exersise’ activity in the area was to place sonar emiting place-markers. Seems to me, this would be more sure-fire than filtering active pings against the seabed clutter. Such a marker could be turned on by active pings from the ‘fish’, which could certainly lurk/rest for a while first so that the plane was long gone. Morbid rabbit hole.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_48_torpedo



    Quote Posted by Anu Raman (here)
    yea, had to assume... because the specifications of the pipe are so tough. Could be more or less though.

    They keep saying "sabotage" but yet they're not actually looking at other possibilities..

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    I can here it already and may sound something like this. Russia will be excluded as they are the accused, so we wouldn't want tampering of a thorough investigation.

    To me it's looking less and less like Russia.

    Moscow speaks out on Nord Stream blasts probe
    Russian involvement in any investigation into causes of the Nord Stream incident must be “mandatory,” the Kremlin insists





    Quote Russia is “concerned” about suggestions that it should somehow be excluded from any investigation into the ruptures of the Nord Stream pipelines, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Wednesday.

    “So far, from those press conferences that took place in Denmark and Sweden, we have heard quite concerning statements that any cooperation with the Russian side is excluded,” he told reporters.

    “We, of course, will wait for some clarifications on this matter; we believe that the participation of the Russian side in the examination of the damaged parts [of the pipelines] and in the probe into what happened, must be mandatory,” the spokesman added.

    Peskov’s remarks appear to have come in response to statements by Danish Foreign Minister Jeppe Kofod, who has announced his government’s intention to oppose Russia’s participation in the investigation and the possible identification of those responsible. Moscow maintains an international probe – with its participation – must be carried out.

    The Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2 pipelines abruptly lost pressure last Monday, following a series of powerful underwater explosions off the Danish island of Bornholm. The incident caused massive gas leaks, with large volumes of it entering the sea. The ruptures are widely considered to be the result of sabotage, carried out by an unknown party.

    Moscow has squarely branded the incident a terrorist attack, while President Vladimir Putin blamed the explosions on “the Anglo-Saxons,” a Russian colloquialism for the US-UK transatlantic alliance. Washington, for its part, has openly cheered the incident, with Secretary of State Antony Blinken hailing it as a “tremendous opportunity” for Europe “to once and for all remove the dependence on Russian energy.”
    Link: https://www.rt.com/russia/564129-nor...campaign=Email
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    To me it's looking less and less like Russia.
    Seems like if we look to the past (and not even that far) all of this was basically outlined....

    Cui bono?

    Not russia... I can't believe something (apparently) this brazen still happens today... maybe its because even though the coverup is sloppy, nothing ever comes of it... there are no consequences.
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    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)
    Quote Posted by justntime2learn (here)
    To me it's looking less and less like Russia.
    Seems like if we look to the past (and not even that far) all of this was basically outlined....

    Cui bono?

    Not russia... I can't believe something (apparently) this brazen still happens today... maybe its because even though the coverup is sloppy, nothing ever comes of it... there are no consequences.
    Well now you post it, lol

    That makes a lot of sense.

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    interesting interview....

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