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    Interesting development




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    https://twitter.com/SevimDagdelen/st...044905985?s=20

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    • Corporate Media Smears Reporter Who Revealed U.S. Blew Up Nord Stream Pipeline!

    The media’s purpose is to question dominant narratives and challenge authority, but too often today’s corporate media exists simply to regurgitate establishment talking points and run interference for powerful interests. Case in point: Business Insider writer Mia Jankowicz’s recent piece smearing Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh’s story revealing U.S. involvement in sabotaging the Nord Stream pipeline. Guest host Aaron Maté and Americans’ Comedian Kurt Metzger discuss how pathetically bought the mainstream media is today.
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    ...and to top it, German Media did an Interview with Seymour Hersh about the Nordstream, titled:
    "Seymour Hersh interview: Joe Biden blasted Nord Stream because he didn't trust Germany."

    Source: (in German) https://www.berliner-zeitung.de/poli...raut-li.317700

    and translated into English:
    https://www-berliner--zeitung-de.tra..._x_tr_pto=wapp
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    And yet shortly after the destruction of the pipeline it was widely reported that Liz Truss was alleged to have texted "It's done" to Antony Blinken, which doesn't seem to have been mentioned in the Seymour Hersch article. And if Norway was involved, then why did Sweden, Denmark and Germany carry out individual investigations as the Nordic Region tends to stick together?

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    And yet shortly after the destruction of the pipeline it was widely reported that Liz Truss was alleged to have texted "It's done" to Antony Blinken, which doesn't seem to have been mentioned in the Seymour Hersch article. And if Norway was involved, then why did Sweden, Denmark and Germany carry out individual investigations as the Nordic Region tends to stick together?
    The Russians at the time of the Liz Truss text were leaning on the British as the cause. Not much more was said after that for months until these american accusations. The countries were interested in their own private investigations because of the sensitive nature of the attack. Germany wanted to act on its own for sure. Sweden cited secrecy concerns from what I read at the time. These countries said they were sure whom the culprit was and hid behind national security for not revealing this information at the time. It was and still is quite confusing.

    These new revelations have generated more questions than answers. I have some questions but they are not being answered by the main stream or the alt stream.

    Surely Germany is not going to stand idle and let british or american interests dictate the state of the German economy? I would expect some Fury depending on the facts.
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    These new revelations have generated more questions than answers. I have some questions but they are not being answered by the main stream or the alt stream.
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    Just out of interest, would you mind sharing what your questions are Jack?

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    Just out of interest, would you mind sharing what your questions are Jack?
    The Russian generally conducts its due diligence; especially before publishing. What else besides the Liz Truss text they intercepted, did they base their official posture on? [I find it difficult to believe the text is the only fact. But england did not necessarily discount itself from being involved either. Where is their denial?]

    If the spooks were involved, even with ex-special forces conducting the operation, the Liz text would not have been necessary for communications. Why would Blinken require an up to the minute update? [other than for damage control of foreign policy?] Truss was a brand new prime minister and short-lived nonetheless, did this incident shorten her tenure without it being publicised? Usually, government security has strengths but personal communications devices are generally frowned upon; especially considering secrets for national security interests. This incident was probably a top secret calibre operation.

    Where is the outrage in Germany over the incident? Towards which culprit? The investigation was sort of quickly conducted but little to no indication of holding anyone accountable.

    Why the secrecy from Sweden and Denmark? [I find smaller nations carry themselves in a smaller way than world powers as they do not like to attract too much attention, but I am not sure that is the answer.]

    What is the stance of the european union regarding accountability? [Germany is really the pin wheel of the union.]

    Interestingly enough, China calling for accountability puts each of these nations in the limelight, and some of my question's answers might be forthcoming.
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    Briahna Joy Gray: Nord Stream Pipeline Blast BURIED By Mainstream Media, OBVIOUS Evidence Ignored
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    "Briahna Joy Gray criticizes the burying of information surrounding the Nord Stream pipelines explosion.

    In this picture provided by Swedish Coast Guard, a leak from Nord Stream 2 is seen, Wednesday, Sept. 28, 2022. Swedish investigators found traces of explosives at the Baltic Sea site where two natural pipelines were damaged in an act of “gross sabotage,” the prosecutor leading Sweden's preliminary investigation said Friday, Nov. 18, 2022. (Swedish Coast Guard via AP, File)"

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    • U.S. Media Refuses To Cover Bombshell Nord Stream Story!

    Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh published a bombshell report alleging that the United States, in conjuction with ally Norway, conspired to sabotage the Nord Stream pipeline. If true, this represents an extraordinary violation of international law and an attack on Germany, a fellow NATO nation. Yet for some reason the corporate news media in the United States seem determined to bury the story. Why on earth would that be? Guest host Aaron Maté and Americans’ Comedian Kurt Metzger discuss the compliant mainstream media and their deference to the establishment when it comes to stories that threaten powerful interests.
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    The title of the 25 minute video below isn't entirely accurate. Quoting the description:
    "Senator Mike Lee and other members of Congress are calling for an investigation into the Nord Stream attack that could lead to impeachment proceedings against President Biden. Russia is now calling for an emergency U.N. meeting over the pipeline attack."

    "Biden impeached over Nord Stream attack! Senator says it's likely | Redacted with Clayton Morris"

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    Seymour Hersh live on Consortium News, 6 hours ago. The interview starts at 10:50.

    American Sabotage

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    • Reporter Seymour Hersh on "How America Took Out the Nord Stream Pipeline": Exclusive TV Interview:

    UPDATE: We have blurred some imagery about 30 seconds into the video in response to a content warning from YouTube that severely limited the reach of this interview. What you see now is an edited version. For the uncensored version of this interview that aired on our show, visit democracynow.org. ==== When the Nord Stream pipelines carrying natural gas from Russia to Germany were damaged last September, U.S. officials were quick to suggest Russia had bombed its own pipelines. But according to a new report by the legendary investigative journalist Seymour Hersh, it was the U.S. Navy that carried out the sabotage, with help from Norway. Citing a source "with direct knowledge of the operational planning," Hersh writes on his Substack blog that planning for the mission began in December of 2021. The White House and the Norwegian government have since denied the claims. Hersh joins us for an in-depth interview to discuss his report and says the U.S. decision to bomb the pipelines was meant to lock allies into support for Ukraine at a time when some were wavering. "The fear was Europe would walk away from the war," he says. Hersh won a Pulitzer Prize in 1970 for his reporting on the My Lai massacre. His reporting on CIA spying on antiwar activists during the Vietnam War era helped lead to the formation of the Church Committee, which led to major reforms of the intelligence community, and in 2004, he exposed the Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse scandal in Iraq.
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    Quote Posted by mizo (here)
    Interesting development

    Here's a link to a Tass article on the above.

    https://tass.com/politics/1577013

    Two Irish MEPs (there are 705 MEPs in total) have been very vocal on the matter whilst 700 or more others aren't saying a single word about it!!!





    Russian intelligence would have known a short time after the explosion who did it. They might even have known it was going to happen before the explosion.

    It takes six more months before Hersh's work comes to public attention. And it's only then that Russia feels able to request a UN Security Council meeting?

    No, no, no. There's a huge disconnect in there somewhere. None of it stacks up.

    Of course there are a thousand shades of grey between black and white.

    But an entire nation, a nation as powerful as Russia, sits around doing nothing for half a year? Before a single foreign journalist pipes up with some investigative work. And only then Russia feels able to request a UN meeting?

    It's all very fishy and doesn't make the slightest bit of sense.

    Furthermore.

    We all know how bent and corrupt the UN is. Everyone with eyes to see knows how bent and corrupt the UN is. Russian intelligence knows perfectly well how bent and corrupt the UN is. And now the mighty Russia thinks it can finally request a Security Council meeting because a solitary, little American journalist has their backs having done the work they were unable to do for themselves?

    Goodness me. Isn't the global stage and all this puppetry just the biggest pile of ridiculous absurdity?

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    It takes six more months before Hersh's work comes to public attention. And it's only then that Russia feels able to request a UN Security Council meeting?

    No, no, no. There's a huge disconnect in there somewhere. None of it stacks up.

    Of course there are a thousand shades of grey between black and white.

    But an entire nation, a nation as powerful as Russia, sits around doing nothing for half a year? Before a single foreign journalist pipes up with some investigative work. And only then Russia feels able to request a UN meeting?

    It's all very fishy and doesn't make the slightest bit of sense.

    Sort of, but keep in mind the scenario.

    Slow, evidence-based exposure.

    For example, there is not a nuclear attack on New York just because it looks a lot like the United States made Covid.

    The real story here was buried on day one. Bornholm Island was like NYC on 9/11. Nothing just "slips in" there, so we are given a fantasy.

    What is disgusting here is the lengthy pre-planning, which then was triggered just by a threat about Russia and Ukraine.

    To some extent, it is normal, as we might expect that the States are behind numerous "warehouse fires" in Russia and China both.

    Since this one really does come under "Act of War", I hope someone does start being really careful about it.

    Russia was not "allowed" on the investigation, and this is a mark of how poorly it is going. 9/11 at least had an alibi. Here, I guess they just assumed that people would assume the pipeline did it to itself or some kind of nonsense.

    Perhaps it is similar to the fuel embargo that was placed against Japan.

    The main victim winds up being Germany. But I would argue that it has been bullied and milked mostly by British and French collectivists since its unification in 1871, moreover, may have been unified for that reason. So an American president tried to blackmail someone, lost the wager and launched the bomb, which at least removes this form of leverage. Like using a belt-fed machine gun for three hundred misses.

    If the president thought that two days was too close to an American presence and would be suspicious, of course he was right about that, unfortunately even two years won't have an expiry date, and we might be better off if this results in a prosecution towards him, than if it sparks a conflict.

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