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    Taken from a Twitter feed and the statement from Sergei Lavrov now saved in the Avalon Library:
    Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov responds to Seymour Hersh's Nordstream article and urges foreign media to investigate: "Since not all of you report to Ned Price, you might give this investigation a try."
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    • Dem Congressman CONFRONTED Over Bombshell Nord Stream Pipeline Story:

    Democratic House Member from New York Ritchie Torres was recently confronted during a town hall by constituents demanding an investigation into whether, as investigative journalist Seymour Hersh recently revealed, the United States was responsible for the September 2022 bombing of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline. Torres deflected and distracted form the question, bizarrely suggesting that the U.S. could not conduct an investigation of a European pipeline and then calling his questioners “Putin puppets.” Guest host Aaron Maté breaks down the unbelievable cowardice on display in the non-response to the Hersh story exhibited by elected officials and the media.
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    A US-Led 'Coalition Of The Willing' Foreshadows The Splintering Of NATO

    The destruction of the Nord Stream pipeline was a gangster act that reveals the cancer at the heart of the “rules-based order”.


    How can there be peace and security when the world’s most powerful nation can destroy the critical infrastructure of other countries without deliberation or judicial proceedings? If Hersh’s report can be trusted—and I think it can—then we must assume that senior-level advisors in the Biden administration as well as the president himself deliberately perpetrated an act of industrial terrorism against a long-term friend and ally, Germany. What Biden’s involvement in the act implies, is that the United States now claims the right to arbitrarily decide which countries may engage in commerce with which others. And, if for some reason, the buying and selling of energy supplies conflicts with Washington’s broader geopolitical objectives, then the US believes it has the right to obliterate the infrastructure that makes such trade possible. Isn’t this the rationale that was used to justify the blowing up of Nord Stream?

    Sy Hersh has done the world a service by exposing the perpetrators of the Nord Stream sabotage. His expose not only identifies the people involved but also infers that they should be held accountable for their actions. But while we don’t expect any thorough investigation in the near future, we do think the magnitude of the attack has been a “wake up” call for people who cling to the belief that the Unipolar model can produce morally-acceptable outcomes. What the incident shows is that unilateral action inevitably leads to criminal violence against the weak and defenseless. Biden’s covert operation hurt every man, woman and child in Europe. It’s a real tragedy. Here’s a quote from a recent interview with Hersh:

    “I think this story has the same potential for destroying the ability of our president to rally the American people behind the war because it shows something that is so dark and so Unamerican. You know, this isn’t us. We’re not talking about us. This is a bunch of intelligence officers and CIA people….” Seymour Hersh 2:29 min

    He’s right, isn’t he? The Biden administration has vastly miscalculated the impact these revelations will have on the public. The reputational damage alone is going to be immense, but they will also be used as the prism through which many critics see the war. In fact, there are signs that that may already be happening. On Sunday, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov confirmed that the real objective of Washington’s war was not simply to “weaken” Russia and eventually splinter it into smaller pieces, but to force a split between Germany and Russia. Here’s what he said on Saturday:

    According to Lavrov, the US decided that Russia and Germany cooperated “too well” over the past 20-30 years, establishing a powerful alliance based on Russian resources and German technology.

    “That began to threaten the monopoly position of many American corporations. Therefore, it was necessary to somehow ruin it, and do it literally,” the minister said.

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    • Seymour Hersh - Biden's Blackout: How America & Norway Blew Up The Nord Stream Pipelines Live:

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    Musk thinks she is a prophet or the main causus belli:



    In January 2022, Nuland said Nord Stream 2 would “not move forward” if Russia launched an operation in Ukraine, foreshadowing the US’s responsibility for the attack revealed by journalist Seymour Hersh earlier this month.

    In December, Nuland said that the Biden administration is gratified to know the Nord Stream 2 pipeline is a “hunk of metal” at the bottom of the sea.



    The people who cannot walk on stairs go nowhere without permission:


    "Biden did not dare to visit Kiev without warning Russia and without asking the Russian side to ensure his safety," she noted.

    "In order to assign some drama to this moment, they have even sounded the air raid alarm," she noted. "Although, they told the people of Kiev in advance not to pay attention to it, due to absence of any actual threat. Everyone warned their neighbor: Biden is about to come, they will launch the siren, but it’s okay, we can stay home or do our own staff, because it is a part of the staging."


    He could have stopped Ohio from turning into the Toxic Avenger, but:


    Instead, Biden decided to fly to Kiev to meet with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, leading East Palestine Mayor Mike Conaway to declare he was “furious” that Biden is “in the Ukraine giving billions of dollars to people over there and not to us.”
    “That was the biggest slap in the face,” Conaway told Fox News, concluding: “that tells you right now — he doesn’t care about us.”

    Yokley echoed the sentiment, telling Sputnik “we're disappointed” because “we know we're being politicized.”
    “At the end of the day, the leader of the free world feels safer in a war zone in Ukraine than he does in his own backyard.



    Which MTG takes like a lamb to the sacrifice:


    Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene ripped into President Joe Biden for paying an official visit to Ukraine, a state that "would lead the United States to a world war," and in her Twitter post called for impeachment proceedings against Biden "before it’s too late."

    Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene did not mince words as she denounced President Joe Biden for visiting Ukraine and cozying up to Volodymyr Zelensky instead of paying more attention to the chemical disaster in East Palestine, Ohio.




    The actual update from the United Nations on Russia's asking for someone to really *do* an investigation, is more cover-up and denial:


    US Ambassador John Kelley said “today’s meeting is a blatant attempt to distract” from the forthcoming emergency meeting of the General Assembly that will mark one-year since Moscow’s invasion of Ukraine on 24 February 2022.

    “That is what our focus should be on,” he said. “Russia desperately wants to change the subject.” Russia is “abusing its position as a Council member” for using this platform to air internet conspiracy theories.

    In addition, accusations that the US was involved in acts of sabotage “are completely false”, he said, pointing out that resources for UN investigations should be preserved when States are unwilling or unable to investigate, unlike the current ongoing inquiries.


    Although briefed by a Russian-speaking American:


    ...preliminary results of the ongoing inquiries show “extensive damage”, signs of “gross sabotage” and “foreign items” seized at the site.

    While some Council members supported the launch of a UN-led inquiry, others emphasized that ongoing inquiries are enough...

    Ms. DiCarlo said that while exactly what happened beneath the waters of the Baltic Sea in September 2022 is still unclear, “one thing is certain: whatever caused the incident, its fallout counts among the many risks the invasion of Ukraine has unleashed”.

    One year since the start of the war, she said, “we must redouble our efforts to end it, in line with international law and the UN Charter”.



    Nice dance around a pre-planned act of war, whose cover was blown by the President on national tv, even though what is coming out are signs of "desperation" from "the internet"...pabulum-puking f*ktard. Remember, only most of the citizens and a great deal of Congress despise this regime, which is because it is despicable.

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    "Unfortunately, there is no other way for us to attain the truth. Those so-called investigations by Scandinavian states and Germany not only lack transparency, but, and this has become obvious by now, are aimed at covering up the tracks and exculpating the big American brother. We are not allowed to partake, and all our requests are ignored with arrogance. By the way, it is rather weird that the states who conduct the investigations have not requested to act as briefers today."
    - Vassily Nebenzia, Feb 21st 2023

    Published February 21st:

    Statement by Permanent Representative Vassily Nebenzia at UNSC briefing on threats to international peace and security (sabotage of Nord Stream gas pipeline)

    Source: https://russiaun.ru/en/news/210223_n

    Mme.President,

    Today we have gathered here for a very remarkable meeting. It is somewhat assonant with the previous meeting regarding the act of sabotage against the Nord Stream pipe that we called on 30 September last year, yet this meeting is completely different by its tone. As many of you surely remember, back then it was already clear who may be standing behind that act of international terrorism (for this is how we qualify this incident), and Russian investigative bodies started criminal proceedings under a corresponding Article of Russia’s Criminal Code. US leadership made some statements which boil down to one message – if Russia kept doing what the United States does not like, the Nord Stream would be destroyed. Then, rather inopportunely, former Foreign Minister of Poland Sikorski (who clearly knew something) got in the spotlight, having thanked the United States on social media in a paroxysm of Russophobia. Add to this a rather indiscreet text message by former head of the British Government L.Truss, who is also known for her fierce hatred to my country. Yet formally, the United States strongly denied its involvement, realizing prospective consequences of such sabotage of critical international pipeline infrastructure. They still do, by the way.

    Since then, the malevolence of Washington’s officials has increased, not in the least thanks to another famous Russophobe, “godmother” of the anti-constitutional coup in Ukraine V.Nuland. However, we would not be convening this meeting only because of this. The thing is that on 8 February, thanks to a prominent American investigative journalist and Pulitzer Prize winner S.Hersh, we not only learned the whos, but also the hows. We came to know how the US did this with help from Norway, its ally in NATO. Proceeding from facts and testimonies by eyewitnesses, he convincingly proves that during NATO’s BALTOPS exercise in summer 2022, divers from US Navy planted explosives under the pipes, which were detonated by the Norwegians three months later, on 26 September 2022. So now we know with a high degree of certainty not only who blew up our gas pipe, and also how they did it. Basically, these facts allow us to say that this was a use of force carried out in a way that is incompatible with the goals of the UN Charter.

    In this statement, I will not go further into details of S.Hersh’s topline investigation, because our two briefers, J.Sachs and R.McGovern, have covered those extensively. I will only say that the depth of information that he has collected is truly striking. His previous professional expertise and uncompromising integrity leave us no doubt that this American journalist is telling the truth.

    What is also striking is the level of cynicism and all-out sense of impunity with which this unprecedented crime was committed. We have got accustomed to the fact that our American colleagues position themselves above the law or rather pretend that they are the law, which they think gives them the right to interfere in internal affairs of states without retribution, carry out anti-constitutional coups, take aggressive action against independent states (I remind that by estimates of the US Congressional Research Service, since the end of the Cold War, the US has used its armed forces abroad on 251 occasions), kill and torture peaceful population in third countries while refusing to commit the perpetrators to international justice. With their allies singing along, they call it “rules-based order”, where the rules are set by themselves.

    However before now, they never went as low as to blow up foreign pipelines that are owned by states with which the US was not at war. Well, this day has come. Maybe, it presages a new era, in which cross-border and trans-continental infrastructure will become a legitimate target for operations aimed at weakening of some or other states. As you can imagine, this would be an era of chaos and unspeakable harm to the entire humanity. Odds are huge that this era may truly come, unless those responsible for the sabotage of the Nord Stream are identified and held duly accountable. And unless those who masterminded this crime reimburse for the damage that occurred with the affected states – the way international law (and basic principles of justice) see it. Then and only then we will have a chance to avoid this chaos. All is in our hands, and the choice is being made i.a today, at this very meeting of the Security Council.

    Mr.President,

    Contrary to what our former Western partners are about to say, we do not spread disinformation in the Security Council, and do not ty to make a guilty verdict based on allegations in the “highly likely” spirit. This is something British representatives did five years ago when they made an unconvincing attempt to accuse us of the poisoning of the Skripals which was based only on allegations and speculations neither of which had anything to do with facts or common sense. With the Nord Stream sabotage, neither the motive of the crime nor the perpetrators or the method raise any doubts. This is even more than the “smoking gun” that detectives always dream to find in Hollywood blockbuster movies. With such evidence, no lawyer would venture to defend our American colleagues in court, and predicting the jury verdict would be a no-brainer.

    But we have not gathered here to have a trial. As you know, we put forward a draft UNSC resolution that tasks the Secretary-General to carry out an independent international investigation, and double-check the facts that S.Hersh and other independent journalists cite.

    We have to do this, because we have strong reasons to doubt the effectiveness, transparency, and impartiality of investigations that are being carried out under some national jurisdictions. We do not see our partners being eager to cooperate. We have taken note of the letter by Permanent Representatives of Germany, Denmark, and Sweden saying that the authorities of these states had informed Russia on the progress of the investigation. Things are different in reality. Leaders of the states in question ignored the communications that Prime Minister of Russia, M.Mishustin, addressed to them in October 2022 regarding participation of relevant Russian agencies and PJSC Gazprom in the investigations. Relevant requests of the General Prosecutor’s Office of the Russian Federation were declined. Since we talk about a crime that was committed by means of an explosive device, which makes it subject to the International Convention for the Suppression of Terrorist Bombings of 15 December 1997, we expect that all states that have to do with the incident, namely the US, Norway, Denmark, and Sweden, will fulfil their obligations under this document. But leadership of these states do not show any political will or rather do not have any.

    Unfortunately, there is no other way for us to attain the truth. Those so-called investigations by Scandinavian states and Germany not only lack transparency, but, and this has become obvious by now, are aimed at covering up the tracks and exculpating the big American brother. We are not allowed to partake, and all our requests are ignored with arrogance. By the way, it is rather weird that the states who conduct the investigations have not requested to act as briefers today. With other meetings, there is no end to those willing to take the floor. Of course, we do not and cannot have any trust in them. But we still do have trust in the Secretary-General and hope that you do too. That is why we suggest that he should be tasked with this investigation.

    We circulated as official documents of the Security Council and General Assembly an address of the State Duma of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation that contains a corresponding request, and also verbal notes on that matter that our respective embassies addressed to Foreign Ministries of Germany, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, and the US. Everyone who wants to can read those documents.

    If our American colleagues indeed have nothing to fear and if they do not doubt that their fellow citizen was all wrong, then the US does not risk anything, of which we will soon be able to make sure. In such case, we will strive to identify and hold accountable whoever it was that encroached on international peace and security by their actions. So, we look forward to having our proposal supported. These days, experts are in the middle of discussing our draft. After the first round, however, we are inclined to think that Western experts are not interested in an objective international investigation, which but substantiates our suspicion.

    Colleagues, your approach to our proposed draft resolution, your interest (or the lack of it) in searching for the perpetrators and holding them accountable will define our further steps in the context of the act of sabotage that took place. We very much want to believe that you will not disappoint us or your own people and will help to establish the truth as prescribed by the Charter of this Organization.

    Thank you.
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    • Rising INTERVIEWS SEYMOUR HERSH: Journalist DEFENDS Reporting on US DESTRUCTION of Nord Stream:

    Investigative journalist Seymour Hersh breaks down his report that claimed the Biden administration is behind last summer's Nord Stream pipelines explosion.
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    What Russia's Energy Exports Means for Europe--Chris Martensen
    2/23/23 Chris Martenson
    https://sovren.media/video/what-russ...rope-2537.html

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    • Russia & China Demand UN Investigation Into Nord Stream Bombing:

    On the heels of Seymour Hersh’s bombshell report accusing the United States of teaming with Norway to blow a hole in the Nord Stream pipeline, Russia’s Vladimir Putin, backed by China’s XI Jinping, has called for a United Nations investigation into the act of international sabotage. As a result, even the Washington Post has been forced to mention Hersh’s report, suggesting that the virtual radio silence on Hersh’s allegations in the U.S. corporate media may be breaking. Guest host Aaron Maté and Americans’ Comedian Kurt Metzger discuss the likelihood of a genuine investigation into the bombing ever occurring.
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    • Seymour Hersh Says He Knew Mainstream Media Wouldn’t Dare Report On CIA Nord Stream Plot:

    Investigative journalist Seymour Hersh breaks down his report that claimed the Biden administration is behind last summer's Nord Stream pipelines explosion.
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    This news-story gets even more bizarre!


    According to German news outlet ZEIT ONLINE report, Secret operation to sabotage Nord Stream pipelines was carried out by a team of 6 people, who rented a yacht from a company based in Poland, owned by two Ukrainians.

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    Oh that is slick.

    Six people on a rented yacht can penetrate Europe's ultimate Naval protection and go that far underwater with those kind of bombs. Excuse me, two people actually diving with those. Blows away concrete and steel pipe, must be 9/11 tech.

    Is the ARD capital studio something we need to know about? Has the crime finally been solved because Mr. Hersh said something that sounds more physically possible?? It was re-printed in the NYT, so, our first instinct is that this is supposed to be taken seriously by the type of folk who prefer believing their own lies.

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    Germany pulls away from the conflict to save face?


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    https://twitter.com/disclosetv/statu...095107087?s=20

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    ...

    ... aren't the USA's puppeteers and their puppets the biggest, best equipped pro-Ukrainian group there is?

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    On Sputnik News:

    https://sputniknews.com/20230308/kre...108164746.html

    Kremlin: New Reports on Nord Stream Attacks Are Part of a Coordinated Disinformation Campaign

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    Earlier this month, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov pledged in an interview with Sputnik that Russia would not allow an investigation into the terror attacks on the Nord Stream pipelines to be swept under the rug.

    Media reports about the attacks on Russia's Nord Stream pipelines are part of a coordinated spread of disinformation and an attempt to divert attention from the real perpetrators, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told Sputnik on Wednesday.

    "Obviously, the authors of the terrorist attack want to divert attention. This is obviously a coordinated spread of disinformation in the media," Peskov said, commenting on the Western media reports.

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    • Hidden Meanings In New York Times Nord Stream 'Revelations':

    On Tuesday the New York Times published an incendiary story - based on anonymous Biden Administration officials - that the attack on the Nord Stream pipelines was carried out not by the US military, as Seymore Hersh has discovered, but rather by Ukrainian forces not associated with President Zelensky. Why put out such a transparently bogus counter-narrative? Many reasons. Also today: more revelations about Fauci's malfeasance come out in House Covid hearings. Finally - what does yesterday's Syria vote mean?
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    Astonishingly, there's a CNN-News18* livestream with Seymour Hersh that's on air right now and has been running for over 90 minutes. I've only just started in on it, so I don't know what's discussed or presented — but the lengthy descriptor for the news piece, copied below, is impressive and speaks to the news channel's position.

    *This isn't the US version of CNN, but an affiliate that addresses news from India, has an Indian audience, and is Indian managed.

    Journalist Who Blamed U.S. For Nord Stream Blast | Seymour Hersh Interview | U.S. News Live


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    Hersh is a well-respected investigative journalist with a long track record of exposing U.S. military and intelligence operations.

    The recent report by the New York Times claiming that a pro-Ukraine group likely attacked the Nord Stream gas pipelines last September needs to be taken with a grain of salt. The report is a feeble attempt to deflect the blame from the United States, which is itself under scanner for its role in the brazen attacks following an earlier report by independent investigative journalist Seymour Hersh.

    The NYT report, published Tuesday, suggests that the alleged attackers from the pro-Ukraine group likely comprised of Ukrainians or Russians, but the report also comes with a disclaimer that "there are no firm conclusions."

    It is quite evident that the NYT report is a political "hit job" by Washington to salvage its reputation following Hersh's investigative report that implicates the U.S. for the Nord Stream pipeline attacks. Hersh's report, published last month, alleges that the clandestine underwater bombings were ordered by the White House and carried out utilizing American and Norwegian assets.

    In the current geopolitical scenario, where the U.S. is trying to save face and salvage its relations with Germany and Europe, whose interests were hit the worst by the Nord Stream pipeline bombings, the hogwash offered by the NYT is not surprising. It is an effort by the U.S. to divert public attention, avoid a proper investigation of its own role and shift blame onto others – a common tactic used by Washington to manipulate the narrative.

    U.S. creates 'false flags' in 'battle of narratives'

    The U.S. is known for falsifying facts to win the battle of narratives. It has a long history of using false information to justify its military interventions and to promote its interests in various parts of the world. In recent times, the U.S. has been exposed for fabricating intelligence reports to justify the invasion of Iraq and its involvement in the Syrian conflict.

    The U.S. also has a long history of intervening in the energy policies of other countries to promote its interests. The Nord Stream pipelines, which run from Russia to Germany, have been a source of tension between the U.S. and Europe for years. The U.S. has been pressuring Germany to abandon the Nord Stream project and instead buy liquefied natural gas from the U.S. Washington always saw the Nord Stream project as a threat to its own energy dominance in Europe and wanted to undermine it.

    The damage to the Nord Stream pipelines has been a major blow to Europe's energy security. The pipelines were attacked just as the winter season was about to begin, and Europe was already facing a shortage of natural gas. The U.S., which is not a major player in the natural gas market, benefitted from the situation as it used the opportunity to sell more gas to Europe and to weaken Russia's energy dominance.

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    "...based on one, single, unidentified source..." The reporter is running a hit piece on Hersh. Kill the messenger. Spin. At least he allows Hersh to talk.


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