Discussion about Gigi Young

[7alon]

Posted by onawah (here)
I doubt very much that Gigi is a Satanist.
If she is, she is certainly doing an incredibly good job of hiding it.
Her close association with Daniel Liszt (Dark Journalist) would certainly be highly unlikely were she a Satanist.
She is a frequent guest on his shows, and the subject matter is often Theosophy and Anthroposophy, which is completely antithetical to Satanism.
I think you need to do some more research, 7alon, when it comes to Gigi.
Possibly the other people you mention designed their business models after Gigi's, as she was way ahead of them timewise (and probably in all other respects as well), though I know nothing about them myself.
(I do agree that Charlie Ward is a huge hope porn hoax, however.)

Posted by 7alon (here)
I honestly believe Gigi Young is part of a larger disinfo AND psyop campaign. I found her years ago and I was trying to bounce off of other psychics like her, to understand my own abilities more. I am poor and too unwell to work the last few years, so I cannot pay anybody for my training.. so I make do. I'm not trying to burst anybody's bubble, as I have actually learned things from the information she puts out; however, I started seeing her make a lot of claims that are completely false. One of those is in the video mentioned at the beginning of the thread. It was dribble about Biden and Trump. Biden is and was gone at this time, and she has no idea.

I also notice a suspicious pattern with her ilk. They are all visually pleasant to look at, their websites are immaculate, something a person running a one man/woman business would tactfully not invest in straight away (fancy websites are very costly), and each of these individuals have started paving their way throughout the truth/alt community. One of these individuals is expanding faster than the others and has connections to high level Satanists. This particular individual is Billy Carson.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=-aCvouSDuIk

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=dCqJboWzn8A

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=3F2kshUCZcs

Here, a former New Ager (albeit still spiritual) breaks down what she see's in Gigi's work, and I agree with a lot of her points showing contradictions, but not baseless opinions like when she brought up her idea of the Greys as if its fact. For a bit of background on this person, she has also done a dual interview with Kerry Cassidy in the past for the intuitive and healing work she does. She used to believe in the blue avian stuff too, but seems to have wisened up in the last 3 years since she made it. I also have a video of a woman's testimony regarding Gigi's readings being questionable. Very interesting since Gigi doesn't do readings anymore, along with some others called out that I cannot remember after watching, as I'm not familiar with them.. except Elizabeth April, I know of her.

[onawah]

I listened to the first half of the first video and I have to say it was just laughable because that woman apparently doesn't understand at all the base of Theosophy and Anthroposophy that Gigi is rooted in, and it sounds like she hasn't done much if any research into genuine UFOlogy either.
She thinks that Gigi made up the word "Bodhisattva" which shows her general ignorance about spirituality!
Her talk is mostly just name-calling and ridicule, showing no real insight into the subject material at hand.

What I listened to of the other woman's video had to do with readings that she says she got from Gigi, and so we have nothing to base an assessment on of that except her word and how she interpreted the reading, because she didn't record it and play it back for us.

I have been posting Gigi's talks here because much of what she talks about in them is based on Theosophy and Anthroposophy (not on channeled information) and on the same subjects that she discusses with Dark Journalist, and some of her impressions of that material as a psychic.
As far as I am aware, Gigi calls herself a psychic, not a channeler, and those are two very different things.
She has obviously done a deep study of the work of the Theosophists, of Anthroposophy and Rudolf Steiner, and of Edgar Cayce's work, and keeps up with Dark Journalist's work, so she is not coming from a New Age angle in her talks, but from a very well informed one in the fields of spirituality and ufology.
So I think 7alon's post would fit in much better in the Channeled Information subforum than here, because it really has nothing valid to add to the discussion about Gigi's talks.

[Haujean Contactee]

Posted by 7alon (here)

Posted by onawah (here)
I doubt very much that Gigi is a Satanist.
If she is, she is certainly doing an incredibly good job of hiding it.
Her close association with Daniel Liszt (Dark Journalist) would certainly be highly unlikely were she a Satanist.
She is a frequent guest on his shows, and the subject matter is often Theosophy and Anthroposophy, which is completely antithetical to Satanism.
I think you need to do some more research, 7alon, when it comes to Gigi.
Possibly the other people you mention designed their business models after Gigi's, as she was way ahead of them timewise (and probably in all other respects as well), though I know nothing about them myself.
(I do agree that Charlie Ward is a huge hope porn hoax, however.)

Posted by 7alon (here)
I honestly believe Gigi Young is part of a larger disinfo AND psyop campaign. I found her years ago and I was trying to bounce off of other psychics like her, to understand my own abilities more. I am poor and too unwell to work the last few years, so I cannot pay anybody for my training.. so I make do. I'm not trying to burst anybody's bubble, as I have actually learned things from the information she puts out; however, I started seeing her make a lot of claims that are completely false. One of those is in the video mentioned at the beginning of the thread. It was dribble about Biden and Trump. Biden is and was gone at this time, and she has no idea.

I also notice a suspicious pattern with her ilk. They are all visually pleasant to look at, their websites are immaculate, something a person running a one man/woman business would tactfully not invest in straight away (fancy websites are very costly), and each of these individuals have started paving their way throughout the truth/alt community. One of these individuals is expanding faster than the others and has connections to high level Satanists. This particular individual is Billy Carson.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=-aCvouSDuIk

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=dCqJboWzn8A

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=3F2kshUCZcs

Here, a former New Ager (albeit still spiritual) breaks down what she see's in Gigi's work, and I agree with a lot of her points showing contradictions, but not baseless opinions like when she brought up her idea of the Greys as if its fact. For a bit of background on this person, she has also done a dual interview with Kerry Cassidy in the past for the intuitive and healing work she does. She used to believe in the blue avian stuff too, but seems to have wisened up in the last 3 years since she made it. I also have a video of a woman's testimony regarding Gigi's readings being questionable. Very interesting since Gigi doesn't do readings anymore, along with some others called out that I cannot remember after watching, as I'm not familiar with them.. except Elizabeth April, I know of her.

People are so confused these days thanks to the combination of the planetary consciousness simulation, the engineered intuitive and political awakening, and last but not least, the Draco controlled MILAB social influencers. It's a big pot of verbal feces and I feel like I need to be the spoon that stirs it into a big brown spinning vortex.

[onawah]

I should also add that Catherine Austin Fitts is a big fan of Gigi Young, and said so in one of her own talks.
Fitts is most certainly no fool; she's a very grounded, intelligent and perceptive woman, and if Gigi were a fake, I'm pretty sure she would spot it.
Not to mention Dark Journalist, who certainly knows his way around such subjects as ufology and the occult.

[Haujean Contactee]

Posted by onawah (here)
I should also add that Catherine Austin Fitts is a big fan of Gigi Young, and said so in one of her own talks.
Fitts is most certainly no fool; she's a very grounded, intelligent and perceptive woman, and if Gigi were a fake, I'm pretty sure she would spot it.

Are you familiar with the information about Project Surrogate that I've just started talking about on my YouTube channel? The subject matter deals with how Orion Draco ETs and the US military in cooperation with other military organizations are colluding with these ETs to abduct psychic children, clone them, fragment their souls, and use them in various nefarious programs such as the SSP, and super soldier programs such as Project Alpha? Part of this program involves the creation of social influencers to push negative ET propaganda and to push the new age movement deception.

Gigi is one of those victims trapped in a program where she is being used by the Orion Draco just like Elena Danaan, Elizabeth April, and on and on it goes. You can chalk in Ishmael Perez, Corey Goode, David Wilcock, Megan Rose, Alex Collier and many others to this growing list. I've been directly involved in this and I even had a Draco attempt to recruit me to take part of in their social media clown show. He even promised me a spot on Gaia TV. I did a 2 hour and 15 minute interview about this on The Typical Skeptic podcast. The entire new age movement and these ET channelers are part of a global Orion Draco deception to counter a real intuitive human awakening that is taking place on this planet. Those who really wake up find that they have no use for spiritual gurus because they understand that it's just a deception that leads to bad life decisions, attachments, psychic attacks, and a spiritual dead end.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=IkEHGFOZ1Rc

[Haujean Contactee]

Posted by onawah (here)
I should also add that Catherine Austin Fitts is a big fan of Gigi Young, and said so in one of her own talks.
Fitts is most certainly no fool; she's a very grounded, intelligent and perceptive woman, and if Gigi were a fake, I'm pretty sure she would spot it.

She's not a fake, she's a controlled military abduction victim who is being used as a new age social influencer by deceptive ETs. These are the same Orion/Draco ETs that gave humanity its wonderful religions, the pyramids, cyclic cataclysms, war, and endless human suffering. They are also the ones that use a planetary consciousness simulation to limit us to our 5 senses while they empower social influencers with etheric implants to make them into controlled psychics who help shape our perception of the augmented reality, or spiritual prison that we find ourselves trapped in. The prophets of old are the contactees of the present, and many of them are the same tormented and recycled souls that the ETs use lifetime after lifetime to create a demon haunted world that they control.

[onawah]

Wow, those are some awfully sweeping claims. No, I am not familiar with any of that information, but I stopped following New Age info several years ago.
Do you have any real evidence for any of those claims?
It sounds to me like it could all be made up, and Gigi certainly doesn't come off as a tortured soul to me.
I will request that your posts and 7alon's be moved to the Channeled and Other Controversial Material, because it has nothing to do with the content of Gigi Young's talks.
If you have listened to any of it, I think you will see that it's all pretty much well-researched and credible, certainly as far as the info centered around Theosophy, Anthroposophy, etc, and as far as the ET info goes, at least as far as ufology info can be credible, since much of it is still so controversial.

[TEOTWAIKI]

Haujean Contactee, please know that some of us are listening to you...

and we are interested in what you are writing and would like to hear more.

[Haujean Contactee]

Posted by onawah (here)
Wow, those are some awfully sweeping claims. No, I am not familiar with any of that information, but I stopped following New Age info several years ago.
Do you have any real evidence for any of those claims?
It sounds to me like it could all be made up, and Gigi certainly doesn't come off as a tortured soul to me.
I will request that your posts and 7alon's be moved to the Channeled and Other Controversial Material, because it has nothing to do with the content of Gigi Young's talks.
If you have listened to any of it, I think you will see that it's all pretty much well-researched and credible, certainly as far as the info centered around Theosophy, Anthroposophy, etc, and as far as the ET info goes, at least as far as ufology info can be credible, since much of it is still so controversial.

If I offended you with rather explosive claims and information, then I apologize for coming off that aggressive. I've been feeling more emotionally charged lately after confronting abduction memories and the realization that I'm part of a military program involving Orion ETs. I'm just here to say what needs to be said for those who are willing to hear it because of what happened to me and the fact that I have a moral obligation to share it for the greater good.

Please take my advice. You shouldn't resort to censorship based tactics such as requesting that the moderators remove posts that you don't like. We all have the right to speak and exchange ideas as long as we are respectful and kind to one another in our exchanges. I would never request that anyone should take your post down or move it some place else. Your thoughts and opinions are valuable just like those of others and we all must adhere to that basic belief of free expression, or the continuity of our community falls apart.

[Haujean Contactee]

Posted by TEOTWAIKI (here)
Haujean Contactee, please know that some of us are listening to you...

and we are interested in what you are writing and would like to hear more.

I sent you a pm. You can find me here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9I...RYvdU8n3jpHpdg I also have a telegram group linked to my channel page. I'm just getting started with a series of videos to cover all of this. When I was under the control of what I call the Orion Draco US Military Alliance the ETs told me to buy a seat on Elizabeth April's psychic group chat to ask her spirit guides two questions. They gave her nearly word for word what they had already told me and she even acknowledged that when she gave me the information. The videos about it are all on my channel and I'm going to be adding one more now that I understand who was behind the information that both of us were given. Her GFL ET contacts were the same as my Orion Draco contacts that were masquerading as positive Orion and Andromedin ETs. The Draco/Orion ETs are pulling a ruse on everyone just like they always have. The prophets of old are the contactees and new age teachers of the present.

[Arcturian108]

Posted by Haujean Contactee (here)

Posted by onawah (here)
I should also add that Catherine Austin Fitts is a big fan of Gigi Young, and said so in one of her own talks.
Fitts is most certainly no fool; she's a very grounded, intelligent and perceptive woman, and if Gigi were a fake, I'm pretty sure she would spot it.

She's not a fake, she's a controlled military abduction victim who is being used as a new age social influencer by deceptive ETs. These are the same Orion/Draco ETs that gave humanity its wonderful religions, the pyramids, cyclic cataclysms, war, and endless human suffering. They are also the ones that use a planetary consciousness simulation to limit us to our 5 senses while they empower social influencers with etheric implants to make them into controlled psychics who help shape our perception of the augmented reality, or spiritual prison that we find ourselves trapped in. The prophets of old are the contactees of the present, and many of them are the same tormented and recycled souls that the ETs use lifetime after lifetime to create a demon haunted world that they control.

I am curious about Gigi Young, as I am sure many on the Avalon Forum are, but recently I was scratching my head when she so adamantly put down Zechariah Sitchin's life-long work about humanity being created to be E.T. slaves to harvest the gold on this planet. I don't know where she got so confident in saying this, so Haujean Contactee I would like to know what you think about this opinion of hers?

[7alon]

Posted by onawah (here)
Wow, those are some awfully sweeping claims. No, I am not familiar with any of that information, but I stopped following New Age info several years ago.
Do you have any real evidence for any of those claims?
It sounds to me like it could all be made up, and Gigi certainly doesn't come off as a tortured soul to me.
I will request that your posts and 7alon's be moved to the Channeled and Other Controversial Material, because it has nothing to do with the content of Gigi Young's talks.
If you have listened to any of it, I think you will see that it's all pretty much well-researched and credible, certainly as far as the info centered around Theosophy, Anthroposophy, etc, and as far as the ET info goes, at least as far as ufology info can be credible, since much of it is still so controversial.

It doesn't matter to me where my posts are put, I addressed this for a reason because unless you are blinded by idolatry, you should be able to see her disregard for other's work that is more academic than hers! Gerald Clark proved very thoroughly that Ishtar is indeed part of the 'Satanic Trinity', and even if you don't believe that, its still heavily proven (if you're relying on cuneiform and texts and other physical evidence) that Ishtar is evil in nature (but once wasn't). Gigi Young disregards this and claims Ishtar is not Satanic.. very suspect. She also said that Donald Trump is not an ascended master... how would she know what the answer is? You can't even read him.. go and try, I know of people with plenty of psychic ability and are relatively big beings, and they can't read him. As a matter of fact, they came to me and said they've never 'not' been able to read somebody before. The man is very powerful in his own right and she made herself look like a complete fool with that statement (to those of us in the know).

That is all I will say about all of this, because I do not feel the need to say anything else. Disappointed in the clear bias, as I once looked at a lot of Gigi's work and took it on board! I also did mention this Onawah...

I have a duty to the truth, not to appease other's desires.

[Haujean Contactee]

Posted by Arcturian108 (here)

Posted by Haujean Contactee (here)

Posted by onawah (here)
I should also add that Catherine Austin Fitts is a big fan of Gigi Young, and said so in one of her own talks.
Fitts is most certainly no fool; she's a very grounded, intelligent and perceptive woman, and if Gigi were a fake, I'm pretty sure she would spot it.

She's not a fake, she's a controlled military abduction victim who is being used as a new age social influencer by deceptive ETs. These are the same Orion/Draco ETs that gave humanity its wonderful religions, the pyramids, cyclic cataclysms, war, and endless human suffering. They are also the ones that use a planetary consciousness simulation to limit us to our 5 senses while they empower social influencers with etheric implants to make them into controlled psychics who help shape our perception of the augmented reality, or spiritual prison that we find ourselves trapped in. The prophets of old are the contactees of the present, and many of them are the same tormented and recycled souls that the ETs use lifetime after lifetime to create a demon haunted world that they control.

I am curious about Gigi Young, as I am sure many on the Avalon Forum are, but recently I was scratching my head when she so adamantly put down Zechariah Sitchin's life-long work about humanity being created to be E.T. slaves to harvest the gold on this planet. I don't know where she got so confident in saying this, so Haujean Contactee I would like to know what you think about this opinion of hers?

I think all of the ancient gods have a basis in reality as occupying ETs who played god with humanity. These gods all had one thing in common, hard labor. Those of us who were there know that they arrived and occupied a region of the world under a theological based form of enslavement where they demanded servitude through worship and hard labor. Hard labor as in building endless megalithic structures in order to better worship them in. I never believed that they needed gold for their atmosphere because if they were going to try something reckless like that they could mine it off planet, or implement technology that materializes absolute pure gold or a gold alloy necessary for their needs and it would be an unlimited supply. I know someone who believes that they were using the gold to create a Dyson Sphere around their star which makes perfect sense if the star dramatically increases in brightness which would then be threatening to the life on their planet. But the gold needed would have to be very small to rely on a mining operation using primitive humans as a slave labor source. If it was for a Dyson sphere or some other use, humans were forced to do it in servitude just like they were everywhere that you see pyramids and other megalithic structures across the planet. I disagree with Gigi Young, I think it happened but I don't think we have a clear picture.

If Gigi was given this information by a guide, then it all makes sense. Most of these beings are here to spread conflicting false information to keep us ignorant and confused. I was lied to and told that they were giving everyone conflicting information in order to serve as an intuitive exorcise. Well, that was a lie, and it's no different than saying that my husband only beats me when I really need it.

[Haujean Contactee]

Just to clarify something, I said humans were forced to do it in servitude. That means that they didn't need humans to mine gold but they gave them the task to keep them occupied and in servitude to them anyway. If they needed more gold then they got it from other sources that could have supplied it all in the first place without the need for human suffering.

[onawah]

I made the request to have the dispute moved elsewhere primarily because I didn't think the videos that were posted with the two women were even worthy of consideration, for the reasons stated.
I don't agree with all that Gigi says either and I hardly idolize her, but at least she's worthy of consideration in what she has to say about such subjects as Theosophy, Anthroposophy, Edgar Cayce, transhumanism, etc.
And the fact that she has obviously done her research and also displayed some real talent as a psychic.
But I have no interest in this debate; though others are certainly welcome to do so.
I just want to make her talks available for the most part, and particularly when the subject matter correlates with Dark Journalist's talks, so I think requesting the dispute be moved elsewhere was appropriate, and apparently the Mods agreed.

[Haujean Contactee]

Posted by onawah (here)
Wow, those are some awfully sweeping claims. No, I am not familiar with any of that information, but I stopped following New Age info several years ago.
Do you have any real evidence for any of those claims?
It sounds to me like it could all be made up, and Gigi certainly doesn't come off as a tortured soul to me.
I will request that your posts and 7alon's be moved to the Channeled and Other Controversial Material, because it has nothing to do with the content of Gigi Young's talks.
If you have listened to any of it, I think you will see that it's all pretty much well-researched and credible, certainly as far as the info centered around Theosophy, Anthroposophy, etc, and as far as the ET info goes, at least as far as ufology info can be credible, since much of it is still so controversial.

I forgot to mention, those who are used as social influencers in the new age deception who go along with the experience and make their selves a vessel for these beings are treated rather well as long as they keep doing their job. It's an efficient machine of information dispersion that they have created using MILAB victims. But what the victim doesn't know is that they may have alters trapped in horrific ET military programs and that their soul will be fractured and repeatedly used again and again from lifetime to lifetime in their programs. This includes being abducted over and over again lifetime after lifetime. Gigi Young was very likely to have been used in ancient cultures as a priest or priestess, guru, etc, just like I was.

[onawah]

I see nothing but speculation on your part insofar as Gigi Young is concerned.
The only way to make such claims legitimate is to offer some real proof.
There may be credible proof about MILABS, etc. but where is your proof that Gigi is involved in that?
She doesn't appear to be controlled, troubled or demonized at all to me, but rather inspired by those spiritual people whose examples she seeks to emulate.
I am bowing out of this discussion now.

Posted by Haujean Contactee (here)

Posted by onawah (here)
Wow, those are some awfully sweeping claims. No, I am not familiar with any of that information, but I stopped following New Age info several years ago.
Do you have any real evidence for any of those claims?
It sounds to me like it could all be made up, and Gigi certainly doesn't come off as a tortured soul to me.
I will request that your posts and 7alon's be moved to the Channeled and Other Controversial Material, because it has nothing to do with the content of Gigi Young's talks.
If you have listened to any of it, I think you will see that it's all pretty much well-researched and credible, certainly as far as the info centered around Theosophy, Anthroposophy, etc, and as far as the ET info goes, at least as far as ufology info can be credible, since much of it is still so controversial.

I forgot to mention, those who are used as social influencers in the new age deception who go along with the experience and make their selves a vessel for these beings are treated rather well as long as they keep doing their job. It's an efficient machine of information dispersion that they have created using MILAB victims. But what the victim doesn't know is that they may have alters trapped in horrific ET military programs and that their soul will be fractured and repeatedly used again and again from lifetime to lifetime in their programs. This includes being abducted over and over again lifetime after lifetime. Gigi Young was very likely to have been used in ancient cultures as a priest or priestess, guru, etc, just like I was.

[delfine]

Posted by Haujean Contactee (here)

Posted by TEOTWAIKI (here)
Haujean Contactee, please know that some of us are listening to you...

and we are interested in what you are writing and would like to hear more.

I sent you a pm. You can find me here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9I...RYvdU8n3jpHpdg I also have a telegram group linked to my channel page. I'm just getting started with a series of videos to cover all of this. When I was under the control of what I call the Orion Draco US Military Alliance the ETs told me to buy a seat on Elizabeth April's psychic group chat to ask her spirit guides two questions. They gave her nearly word for word what they had already told me and she even acknowledged that when she gave me the information. The videos about it are all on my channel and I'm going to be adding one more now that I understand who was behind the information that both of us were given. Her GFL ET contacts were the same as my Orion Draco contacts that were masquerading as positive Orion and Andromedin ETs. The Draco/Orion ETs are pulling a ruse on everyone just like they always have. The prophets of old are the contactees and new age teachers of the present.

I watched that video with you and Elizabeth April. It's the one where she tells you about your former life in Egypt, and you stole some levitation equipment (the black box), right? The video and your recollection of it, seemed like you regarded her channeled info as legit, but now you dismiss her as being manipulated and used by the draco reptilians.Why do you keep that video on your channel, if it contains false information? Is your distancing yourself from Elizabeth April, something you have arrived at recently? Sorry, but I find this highly confusing 😕

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Posted by onawah (here)
I should also add that Catherine Austin Fitts is a big fan of Gigi Young, and said so in one of her own talks.
Fitts is most certainly no fool; she's a very grounded, intelligent and perceptive woman, and if Gigi were a fake, I'm pretty sure she would spot it.

She's not a fake, she's a controlled military abduction victim who is being used as a new age social influencer by deceptive ETs. These are the same Orion/Draco ETs that gave humanity its wonderful religions, the pyramids, cyclic cataclysms, war, and endless human suffering. They are also the ones that use a planetary consciousness simulation to limit us to our 5 senses while they empower social influencers with etheric implants to make them into controlled psychics who help shape our perception of the augmented reality, or spiritual prison that we find ourselves trapped in. The prophets of old are the contactees of the present, and many of them are the same tormented and recycled souls that the ETs use lifetime after lifetime to create a demon haunted world that they control.

This spiel is pure gold !!!!