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    Default Polls on what Avalon members believe in certain vital issues

    In this new world of controlled information both iput and output, it is hard to determine if something is true or false, even for apparently simple 'facts'. Since we are supposedly 'wiser' than the average, it is interesting know what members think of certain issues. The collective ideas shown in a poll may also give the degree of authenticity. For example, if 80% of the members think that there is no virus in this pandemic, we may consider it as a probability, that there is an 80% chance there is no virus. Collective intelligence is usually accurate (remember usefulness of the ask the audience option in the million dollar TV show?)

    Therefore I raise the following questions in the poll.

    I would like to have more than one poll questions, can someone help me how to do it?
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    If it is a virus, then how come nobody has isolated it ?

    I know people say "that's not how it works" , but, other viruses have been isolated, you would think that that humanities "number one problem" might have had "some" work done on it.

    Personally I'm far from convinced it is a real virus, but I absolutely think that there is "something" making people ill that seems like a virus.

    Also hearing more & more stories of people dropping dead or not waking up, many in what should be the prime of their lives. I know that there are excuses for this, but when I was young my friends that died did so because a of an accident, or they killed themselves, none of them died as if they were 95.

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    Quote Posted by Spiral (here)
    If it is a virus, then how come nobody has isolated it ?

    I know people say "that's not how it works" , but, other viruses have been isolated, you would think that that humanities "number one problem" might have had "some" work done on it.

    Personally I'm far from convinced it is a real virus, but I absolutely think that there is "something" making people ill that seems like a virus.

    Also hearing more & more stories of people dropping dead or not waking up, many in what should be the prime of their lives. I know that there are excuses for this, but when I was young my friends that died did so because a of an accident, or they killed themselves, none of them died as if they were 95.
    According to all the terrain theorists (and there are a lot of them),
    NO virus has ever been isolated, according to Koch's postulates.

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    Default Re: Polls on what Avalon members believe in certain vital issues

    I'm a cynic and a skeptic. I really need to see, in order to 'believe'. I cannot just take someone's word for it. This has no exceptions but one: personal faith, which can be personal and private for any one person who engages in matters of faith regarding spirituality and not necessarily religion.

    Three can keep a secret, if two are dead. This quote is from Franklin and I lean on it solely for the purpose that eventually, secrets are revealed; even in cases of three letter agencies or otherwise and typical places where secrets dominate the landscape. I do not necessarily think these are secret organisations, but rather organizations that have secrets. Sometimes secrets have expiration dates, literally.

    Given the volatile nature of the world to-day it would seem that a lot of people have a lot to lose if some of the current, unexpired secrets were to be revealed to the public. Some pretty important people would no longer wield any power over the masses. This would be an ultimate justice. I would point out that while the alt-community does a good job, I think it takes some things for granted from those whom follow all-media.

    But to just believe, without evidence, seems like a daunting and lazy way of pursuing thought. There must be evidence for there to be truth and not every rabbit hole is worth the trip.
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    In short: I think there’s a virus, but i also think its manmade and the basic virus is the flue. There must be something that makes people sick.
    The corona thing is to scare everyone. Thats why it’s not isolated yet because they can’t find it……

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    In the video Dr. Mike Yeadon says: there was no pandemic, they lied about everything.
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    NO I don't believe in the virus as others have said It's never been isolated ... All I am seeing amongst family and friends (who think I am 'nuts' ) is them all getting ill...

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    Default Re: Polls on what Avalon members believe in certain vital issues

    From a few months ago I started to look into synthetic parasites, but that could only be a possibility after the introduction the vaccines, then it begs the question, what about before? people were getting ill of something, what was that?
    I know someone very close who was in hospital for about 2 months and almost died, the diagnostic was C-19.
    I also know someone that was ill and she got 2 diagnostics from 2 different places, one was C-19 and the other one was NO C-19 but Influenza.

    The entire thing is confused by design, it is supposed to be like that, can't trust or believe in anything. Just keep an open mind and let's see what will happen.
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    Default Re: Polls on what Avalon members believe in certain vital issues

    Hello Friends,

    I'm 99% sure that there is no "virus".

    My best guess is poisoning, probably via chemtrails and similar methods.

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    Default Re: Polls on what Avalon members believe in certain vital issues

    After more than 2 1/2 years of listening to hundreds of scientists and on the ground physicians, I am leaning more to the fact that C-19 is more of a parasitic bioweapon than a virus.
    I take into consideration the fact that antiparasitic drugs such as hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin are effective against it. It could even be a parasite that has been given (enhanced with) viral infection properties. Either way it is a bio weapon.
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    Quote Posted by EarthGirl (here)
    All I am seeing amongst family and friends (who think I am 'nuts' ) is them all getting ill...
    Ill from what, then....?

    And you are spared illness simply because you 'don't believe'?

    I don't get it
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    Default Re: Polls on what Avalon members believe in certain vital issues

    What I think I know is this:

    There is no scientific consensus on what a virus even is.
    There is scientific difficulty in always being able to determine the difference between what is called a virus and what is called an exosome.
    As we advance as a species, definitions must also change and advance to match the current level of knowledge.
    What we call a virus can be manipulated to be what we call a bioweapon. Ie: there can be manipulation with malicious intent.

    Although I understand many of the possibilities of what could be happening out there,

    To close down on any of them I feel would be in error.

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    Default Re: Polls on what Avalon members believe in certain vital issues

    Quote Posted by DaveToo (here)
    Quote Posted by Spiral (here)
    If it is a virus, then how come nobody has isolated it ?

    I know people say "that's not how it works" , but, other viruses have been isolated, you would think that that humanities "number one problem" might have had "some" work done on it.

    Personally I'm far from convinced it is a real virus, but I absolutely think that there is "something" making people ill that seems like a virus.

    Also hearing more & more stories of people dropping dead or not waking up, many in what should be the prime of their lives. I know that there are excuses for this, but when I was young my friends that died did so because a of an accident, or they killed themselves, none of them died as if they were 95.
    According to all the terrain theorists (and there are a lot of them),
    NO virus has ever been isolated, according to Koch's postulates.
    I know what the terrain theorists opinion is but I'm not entirely convinced by them either tbh, both camps have points but neither answers all the questions IMHO.

    Could the truth be something else ?

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    I have a science background and yet I am still at a loss to explain what is happening.

    The main reason most people are in the dark (don't really have a clue what is going on)
    is because we are dealing with something that can't be seen with the naked eye.

    That gives the perps great latitude.

    They can say virtually anything they want and the normies have no choice but
    to believe them.

    As conspiracy theorists, we are aided by the microscopic evidence being leaked,
    the data that is being piled up on deaths, the embalmer evidence being leaked etc.

    But it will take more time until we can be certain about our theories.

    As always, I keep an open mind and weigh each story I hear/see with
    reasoned judgment.

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    Quote Posted by yiolas (here)
    After more than 2 1/2 years of listening to hundreds of scientists and on the ground physicians, I am leaning more to the fact that C-19 is more of a parasitic bioweapon than a virus.
    I take into consideration the fact that antiparasitic drugs such as hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin are effective against it. It could even be a parasite that has been given (enhanced with) viral infection properties. Either way it is a bio weapon.
    I'll go a stage further.

    I think the operation is decades in the planning and is meant, eventually, to sift and sort the entire gene pool of the current human population into true sapiens and 'reptilian' hybrids.

    If we had more data, that I'll assume the perpetrators of this DO have, we could be watching the genetic groups as part of the 'side effects' of the vax. I'll assume that different groups have different responses to it. I'll also assume that they are harvesting a massive amount of response data to use to formulate the next stages of the operation. Along that line of thinking, I'll assume they have different outcomes planned for those different groups. In their plans, some will be destined for extermination and some will be destined for intense genetic backward engineering to a previous time before the garden of eden and some will be destined for serfdom in service to the lifeform outcome of the second group ( genetically reverse engineered group ).

    There's a slight possibility that the agenda is the opposite of that, to eliminate the reptilian hybrid genetics, but it really doesn't smell like that to my intuitive nostrils.
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    Default Re: Polls on what Avalon members believe in certain vital issues

    If viruses aren't real, then many dumb scientists (and dumb governments!) have been wasting a VAST amount of money for decades on fruitless, unproductive, misconceived bioweapons research.


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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    If viruses aren't real, then many dumb scientists (and dumb governments!) have been wasting a VAST amount of money for decades on fruitless, unproductive, misconceived bioweapons research.

    That's exactly what I was thinking and stated in another post.

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    I wish I knew..!!. All I can tell you is that I am in contact with approx 250 folk locally (we don't always meet as a whole) but enough of us mix together regularly and meet up and all we are seeing around us (even in our small area) is folk dropping dead suddenly, heart attacks, and don't even mention the dreaded C word, my own mother since the Pfizer booster last nov now has legions coming up on her back, severe breakouts on her hands and having suffered from a rare form of glaucoma for the past 20 years, which left her with vision in only one eye now has hazy vision continuously in her only good eye and thinks the NHS will fix it for her, not to mention my sister inlaws brain tumour which she has had to battle for a surgeon to even look at and has finally agreed to operate on at some pointing December. My brother is now on his third bought of antibiotics to combat a chest infection which he has never suffered from in his life... and I'm not allowed to say a word....To say I am seething...at this point is an understatement.....

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    Quote Posted by EarthGirl (here)
    All I am seeing amongst family and friends (who think I am 'nuts' ) is them all getting ill...
    Ill from what, then....?

    And you are spared illness simply because you 'don't believe'?

    I don't get it

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    Something is NOT right with this world Bill, Nothing makes sense anymore...... If you are funded towards a certain direction, and this is their mantra.... then why wouldn't you do everything within your power to prove them right????

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    If viruses aren't real, then many dumb scientists (and dumb governments!) have been wasting a VAST amount of money for decades on fruitless, unproductive, misconceived bioweapons research.


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    Which is no doubt why Dr. Joseph Farrell coined the term "Quackademia".
    They sound like they know exactly what they are talking about when they go on and on about their "field of expertise" which can amount to nothing more than spinning tales of fantasy.
    But when it comes to telling the truth or actually making sense, they are positively dumbfounded ... as if it makes no sense at all.

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    If viruses aren't real, then many dumb scientists (and dumb governments!) have been wasting a VAST amount of money for decades on fruitless, unproductive, misconceived bioweapons research.

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    Robert Malone (PCR Test inventor) said two yrs ago that the PCR test, if used incorrectly intentionally or accidentally, would give you the desired result or an incorrect result.
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