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    @Ernie Nemeth

    My guess is that that “free” energy will only become available either:

    - when everybody pays the price by handing over their freedom and sacrificing their souls
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    - when there is complete freedom and thus harmony for everyone on this planet.

    I don’t know about you, but I kind of still love our planet and all its inhabitants. Thus I hope we’ll be able to move in the direction of more harmony rather sooner than later.

    Will that work?

    We’ll certainly not get to complete harmony straight away.
    But the other options will surely not work out in the favor of humanity (+ all those who still have a pulse).

    And yes, total harmony is an utopian vision. But it’s a better direction to strive for than continue on the destructive path we’re on. If we just continue living how we are living & thinking the same way we just keep giving our strength to a path that leads to our collective destruction.

    Right now we’re really a bit like living frogs being boiled slowly. If we stay in this pot we’ll be dead before we know it.

    If we jump away, out of fear, without thinking chances are big that we’ll never reach the door out of the kitchen. Either way jumping out is already better than being boiled to death, but jumping out with thinking of how we can find the kitchen door and our pond in nature back etc. is probably an even better option to survive … (I’m not a cook; this is no cooking advice )
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    It is very easy, in principle at least, to turn this thing around.

    Get enough devoted, spiritually advanced, scientifically literate, humans to push for investment of about $100,000,000 to research possible paths to free energy production.

    or

    Force the deep state to unveil its own hoard of free energy devices.


    But...there are not enough spiritually advanced, scientifically literate, people to catalyze that event.

    That is what Wade Frazier maintains. I believe he is right.

    By the way, such change requires sacrifice. How many are ready for that? You must be ready to sacrifice your family, your friends, your job, your bank account, your vacations, your freedom and your life.
    Ready to do what it takes?
    Who's on board?






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    @Ernie Nemeth :

    Finding a free energy machine could certainly help us a lot, but it won't solve everything.

    Much of how everything will evolve, I think, still depends on how people think, behave, interact and what we do with our energy that will bring us closer to the freedom or prison world.
    If all the focus is solely on the energy we'll forget the importance of solving the other problems.

    That's probably why the energy crises we're in are also being created ...
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    HUGE WAVE OF AWARENESS GETS PERMANENT ONCE WE CONNECT

    I do want to stress that, at this moment there are already enough awake people on all levels. There is a huge wave of awareness, strength and positive energy already influencing the planet in a good direction.

    But if more of those people would start putting their minds together, working together on better ways, the positive evolution would have an even greater influence.

    Really connecting with each other is what makes such a wave stronger and more long lasting. The more people that focus on connecting more to find solutions the faster we’ll be in a better world all together.

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    @Ernie Nemeth :

    Finding a free energy machine could certainly help us a lot, but it won't solve everything.

    Much of how everything will evolve, I think, still depends on how people think, behave, interact and what we do with our energy that will bring us closer to the freedom or prison world.
    If all the focus is solely on the energy we'll forget the importance of solving the other problems.

    That's probably why the energy crises we're in are also being created ...

    If there were an unlimited, reliable, compact, perfectly safe and clean, energy source available to everyone who wants one,
    what could the average person benefit in today's society:

    1) no cost for heating/cooling home
    2) no cost for transport
    3) significantly lowered cost of everything
    4) much cheaper/healthier foods
    5) clean water (desalination plants)
    6) clean air (no pollutants)
    7) work would need to be redefined
    8) survival would be assured for the vast majority
    9) new technologies would revolutionize society

    In such an atmosphere, much of today's problems would simply cease to be.
    ...and that is just the predictable aspects of FE...
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    Thank you all for your lucid and heartfelt insights.

    The subject is fascinating, important. Approaching it with words, it becomes philosophical, and as such – dependent on words, and hence on language.

    It can be shown that, for expressing the idea that is called “free” in English, already only the six languages of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights use words that do not share the same “connotation aura”or “set of associations”. Hence it may be that a Chinese-speaking person and a Spanish-speaking person do not "mean" the same thing as an English-speaking person when they use the English word "free". We happen to call that "having different ideas" about a concept. (What is an "idea"? etc.)

    This is certainly due to the fact that "free" is quite often an “abstract” term. We can point to a chair when explaining what "chair" means – and yet, in Japanese, the word used for the typically Western chair has not the same set of associations as the Japanese word for the place where one sits on one’s heels.

    I have come to the conclusion that unless those association sets are clarified, no real "understanding" or "communication" is possible.

    But of course, that clarifying again uses language. Typically unilingual English speakers will clarify their understanding of the meaning of "freedom" using other English words which may be less understandable even than "freedom" to a person who does not master English.

    I think we have to simplify those concepts rather than “complexify” them – and do that by pointing – like one points to the chair to explain "chair".

    How can that be done? By pointing to oneself, or to one’s partner in communication, or to one’s and the other’s body.

    The chakra system is a good start. It can be correlated to the motivational pyramid. It corresponds to the body — soul — spirit model of Orthodox Christianity (and other schools of thought). To the Kabbala’s Tree of life. To the three ideals of the French Revolution – with the notable exception that "Égalité" (equality) should be understood as (and replaced by) "fairness". To the three divine virtues of Christianity (faith, hope and love).

    I have learnt a lot by understanding that "liberté” sings with "body" and "love". (like "fraternity" sings with "soul" and "hope"; like "fairness/justice” sings with "spirit" and "faith").

    Therefore: freedom or libertad or ḥurriyah can best be understood by people who experience its absence: slaves. The slaves in the baleful 17th, 18th and 19th centuries "freed" themselves from shackles and instruments that prevented their bodies from escaping. Freedom is well understood by trapped animals. Their whole life’s energy is focused on freeing most of their body from the irons in which they find themselves. They lose a leg for it or an arm as one of the trireme’s rowers in the movie Ben Hur.

    We need such concreteness to understand abstract concepts.
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    Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
    It is very easy, in principle at least, to turn this thing around.

    Get enough devoted, spiritually advanced, scientifically literate, humans to push for investment of about $100,000,000 to research possible paths to free energy production.

    or

    Force the deep state to unveil its own hoard of free energy devices.


    But...there are not enough spiritually advanced, scientifically literate, people to catalyze that event.

    That is what Wade Frazier maintains. I believe he is right.

    By the way, such change requires sacrifice. How many are ready for that? You must be ready to sacrifice your family, your friends, your job, your bank account, your vacations, your freedom and your life.
    Ready to do what it takes?
    Who's on board?






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    From Christians to Buddhists to Hinduists to Judaists to Muslims to atheists to satanists to Nihilists …

    We all want to experience ultimate freedom.

    In a way all of humanity is united in the desire for freedom.
    And we’re in the aquarian age, which will only strengthen the desire to reach this experience.

    Right now humanity is experiencing the opposite being limitation on all levels. The only logical explanation seems that we need to experience the opposite to know exactly what freedom should look and feel like. To create an even stronger desire for true freedom, so we can make it a reality.

    Yet, for the creation of long lasting freedom and harmony for everyone we still need some higher awareness of which patterns and structures need changes and how.

    For as long as we have no clear understanding of which patterns and structures in humanity are blocking real freedom we can not create it and the experiencing of limitations and blockages will continue.

    It’s already very much possible to hold the desire for freedom close to your heart. And it's also very much needed that we all follow our inner wisdom to stand up for more honest structures and systems.

    (But it’s not yet possible to pledge to the concept of freedom, because the awareness & understanding of the patterns and structures (~matrix) of what freedom is and what blocks long lasting freedom are still not complete/ too low.)

    I do believe we, as a humanity, will get to this frequency of complete freedom and harmony, but I think we’re at the moment still gradually unlocking that human potential.

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    Last edited by All is one; 1st January 2023 at 19:19. Reason: It's not because we have no complete understanding of what freedom really is and how it can be attained that we should not yet stand up and speak out for more just systems from a place of inner wisdom
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    Clarifying the meaning of complete freedom?

    Giving it a try

    As I already mentioned, I do think to truly be able to realize freedom for everyone we collectively still need a lot more understanding and higher awareness of all the patterns (internal and external) and structures blocking real freedom.

    But we can already start with what we do know and then try to bring clarity to the blind spots of our understanding of freedom.


    START: WHAT WE KNOW

    What's already clear and what we can already focus on when we want to create more freedom:

    Freedom of movement
    Freedom of speech
    Freedom of thought/opinion
    Freedom to breath clean air
    Freedom to drink pure water
    Freedom to choose to eat organic food
    Freedom to buy and sow heirloom plants seeds
    Freedom to choose type of education/school
    Freedom to choose your own medical/healing therapies (that work for you)


    If you know other ways in which the word freedom is already very clear; do add it to the list.


    WHAT WE NEED TO GAIN MORE CLARITY ABOUT(list is not complete)

    Where we still need to gain more understanding of the word freedom is in our internal dialogue (half truths we accept etc.), in the way people act towards each other, in the way people relate to one another and towards themselves. In the desires and vices people put out in to the world etc. And all the structures and patterns that originate from the human vices and create inequality and distorted power dynamics ---➤blockages to freedom.


    (Because for any narcissist freedom is just a blank sheet of paper on which they just print their own desires …)
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    HOW TO GET CLOSER TO FREEDOM:


    FREEDOM~JUSTICE

    But I think there’s another thing equally important than FREEDOM and that is JUSTICE.

    I think that when people are calling out for freedom what they want/mean by that might as wel be real justice.
    And justice is, I think, something that is maybe a bit more down to earth to understand … and also (when combined with keeping balance) it is more practical to try to create more of it on this planet.

    It’s probably also the case that out of more justice comes more freedom.

    One could even say:
    Quote FREEDOM is THE DESIRE and creating JUSTICE & balance in this world (whilst gaining understanding of the patterns and structures blocking freedom) is THE WAY TO GET TO the realization of this desire: FREEDOM.
    We need to get to a higher consciousness and better world from where we are at at the moment. Thus using all the knowledge and capacities we already have ( like the understanding we already have of what real justice is) and trying to gain better understanding of the patterns structures that are still blocking us from the freedom we all want.


    FREEDOM~HONESTY

    Another thing that is closely related and really important is HONESTY.
    For it are the half truths we settle for in our own personal lives and on a societal level that eventually keep us stuck in a restrictive rat wheel.

    Thus trying to figure out where in your life you've accepted and incorporated all these half truths will also give more clarity of what is blocking real freedom.

    What do you guys think?

    Can there be justice without freedom?

    Can there be freedom without justice?



    I think both are very much intertwined. But since it's easier to understand what is just & true/honest I think the road to more honesty and justice could be the road that also leads to more freedom.


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    This explains it better than I've ever been able to drag it back from deep prayer to share.

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    BLOCKAGES TO FREEDOM:


    ENTITLEMENT MENTALITY:
    ESSENCE OF POWER HUNGER & CORRUPTION?



    Just a question I’m currently trying to find an answer to:
    Why would it be that so many people nowadays find a reason to rationalize their entitlement mentality?

    (Reasons vary from thinking they’re better because they’re more eductated or less educated but more brutal, to being stronger/weaker, to having the right hairstyle, to having the right car, to having street mentality/more class, …)



    Where does the entitlement mentality come from?


    Why do almost all people want to believe they’re better than someone else?


    It’s like everyone is wearing horse blinders to the fact that everybody has unique strengths and weaknesses.

    Would this be a part of the general comprehension decline of humans?

    It certainly seems like a symptom of the times we live in.

    Is this a survival mechanism in humanity that got derailed?

    To want to rule over or have power over as much as possible; is this the essence of all power hunger & corruption?

    Is this derailed survival mechanism then not part of a mental pattern blocking freedom?


    Would there be a cure for this kind of mentality?
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