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    It is stipulated that there are very FEW Americans who have (a) withdrawn consent -and- (b) established a domicile upon private property absolutely owned. And with all the eCONomic restrictions and taxes, it is doubly difficult to do it on one's own.


    that would be very interesting to know more about of the path they took in order to get it done successfully. I am convinced it is difficult, I have no intention to go down that road, at least not on my own.
    Generally speaking, they withdrew consent from (a) citizenship, (b) socialism (FICA), and ( c ) usury (interest bearing bank accounts), and ceased exercising all privileges derived.

    ONE POSSIBLE REMEDY...
    A group of people who share a common goal might pool their resources, and acquire property to establish their own dominion... as a religious retreat.

    As everyone knows, land held in mortmain (dead hands) is not subject to ad valorem taxes. And if the lands and buildings are held by the bishop (corporation sole), they comply with the definition of "private property" held by an individual.
    But how does that help the individuals who are not holders of "private property"?

    If all "church members" have a life estate in the village, they have a permanent, legal home.[INDENT] LIFE ESTATE - In common law and statutory law, a life estate (or life tenancy) is the ownership of immovable property for the duration of a person's life. In legal terms, it is an estate in real property that ends at death when ownership of the property may revert to the original owner, or it may pass to another person. The owner of a life estate is called a "life tenant".


    Something similar to usufruct clauses, like the ones found in title deeds ?
    Title deeds refer back to realty. Bills of sale refer to private property, absolutely owned by an individual. A member of a religious group would have the right to use group property as well as exclusive use of a domicile within the community.



    In short, if you can't afford to establish your own domicile upon private property, you can still enjoy most of the benefits of private property within a religious enclave that you have established or joined.
    And no American government can make a law that defines what can or cannot be a religion. (Unless you're foolish enough to ask for a special privilege - which does not include tax exemption - since taxation is limited to government privileges!).


    I guess not all countries are like America in terms of law, I would have to investigate how they set up religious institutions here where I am living. I perceived the time I am here quite a few Christian institutions (like the evangelic ones) settle down here, would be interesting to know how they are dealing with the ownership of the land. As far as I know foreign are not allowed to own anything in Thailand in terms of land, exception for corporations, but it is very limited the size of the land under this exception.

    Maybe someone in the forum know anything in more details regarding what Ozmirage wrote?
    I suspect that no other sovereign government recognizes absolute ownership of land by individuals. That would be a threat to their sovereignty.



    So consider defining your fortified village design as a monastery, nunnery, religious retreat, ashram, camp, college, or anything else that fulfills your group goals.
    COLLEGE - A body of clerics living together on an endowment.
    - - - American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fifth Edition.


    I would go for religious retreat
    Well fortified, hopefully.



    CLERIC - A member of the clergy.
    No government dare make a "clerical error" and trespass their endowed rights.
    BENEFIT OF CLERGY - a privilege that placed the clergy outside the jurisdiction of secular courts and entitled them to trial in ecclesiastical courts.
    In its original sense, the phrase denoted the exemption which was accorded to clergymen from the jurisdiction of the secular courts, or from arrest or attachment on criminal process issuing from those courts in certain particular cases.
    - - - Black’s Law Dictionary, Sixth ed., p.158

    CIVIL DEATH - The state of a person who, though possessing natural life, has lost all his civil rights, and as to them, is considered dead.
    - - - Black's Law Dictionary, Fourth Edition, pg. 488.


    again, I would need to know more about it in this specific country. As far as I can see, government and religion walks together here.
    Very common across the world. However, U S Congress is barred from making any law respecting the establishment of religion. In other words, public funds cannot be used to support any religious institution. Even chapels on military installations are non-denomenational and can be used by others (barring scheduling conflicts).



    RELIGIOUS MEN - Such as entered into some monastery or convent... Religious men are civilly dead.


    It makes sense in theory, but in practice, does it? I know an ex-monk from UK, he had a religious VISA issued right after ordained as a monk. He could not get rid of his civil rights, he also had to deal with "touching" money, when accepting the 10 precepts as a new "samanera" refraining from accepting gold and silver (money), however he had to deal with VISA issues and it cost money, after a few years in the monastery one can apply for a permanent residency under special rule in this case, but still a citizen, I don't know a single case that did otherwise. Of course it is just a case I knew, I myself took the time to look all the details to be ordained as a monk back in 2007. Ordained Monk remain as citizen.
    Ephesians 2:19 (KJV) Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God.
    Some use this to argue that "religious men" are citizens of the household of God, and not of the secular world.




    - - - Black's Law Dictionary, Fourth Edition, pg. 1456.
    Civil death = outside of the taxing powers and permissions of secular government. However, civil death has no effect on natural and personal liberty.
    MORTMAIN - A term applied to denote the alienation of lands or tenements to any corporation, sole or aggregate, ecclesiastical or temporal. These purchases having been chiefly made by religious houses, in consequence of which lands became perpetually inherent in one "dead hand", this occasioned the general appellation of "mortmain" to be applied to such alienations. 2 Bl.Comm. 268; Perin v. Carey, 65 U.S. (24 How.) 465, 16 L.Ed. 701.
    - - - Black's Law Dictionary, Fourth Edition, pg. 1012
    Property held by religious orders is tax exempt, thanks to mortmain. Since taxes are limited to government privileges, no religious order is exercising a civil privilege, with its members being civilly dead. Also note that the definition doesn’t mention real estate.

    I found some interesting article regarding MORTMAIN properties.

    "Thailand does not formally recognize the existing educational structures, policies and community-based service provision in the South, in ethnic areas
    nor provide universal and free basic education to all children born in Thailand – making it difficult to ensure human rights education and training to all children
    and citizen on an equal basis. For instance, in the South, Ponoh Islamic school and Tadika Islamic education center are perceived as haven for terrorists, such as the
    closing of Yehad Wittaya School, the court seizing Wakaf mortmain property, and the arrest of Tadika teachers."


    source [page 85]: https://www.upr-info.org/sites/defau...and2016-en.pdf

    It just prove it is possible to do.

    Many thanks for this special contribution.
    All legal references are with respect to American law and are not universally applicable, especially since US Law is derived, in part, from English Common law, and not Civil law, as in most countries.
    COMMON LAW -"The system of jurisprudence, which originated in England and was later applied in the United States, which is based on judicial precedent rather than legislative enactments; it is contrasted with civil law (the descendant of Roman Law prevalent in other western [European] countries). ... generally derived from principles rather than rules; it does not consist of absolute, fixed, and inflexible rules, but rather the broad and comprehensible principles based on justice, reason and common sense."
    - - - Ballantine’s Law dictionary, p.37

    In other words, the CIVIL LAW is based on absolute, fixed and inflexible rules.
    Whereas America's law is riddled with exceptions, exclusions, and trapdoors.

    To illustrate:
    18 USC Sec. 922 (q)(2)
    (A) It shall be unlawful for any individual knowingly to possess a firearm that has moved in or that otherwise affects interstate or foreign commerce at a place that the individual knows, or has reasonable cause to believe, is a school zone.
    (B) Subparagraph (A) does not apply to the possession of a firearm
    (i) on private property not part of school grounds;
    If YOUR body is private property (unattached to school grounds) carrying a firearm, you are not in violation of this law. Your RIGHT to bear arms is not infringed. But most are persuaded that there is "a law" that bans guns on or near "school grounds."


    INTERNATIONAL PRIVATE PROPERTY
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    AMERICA VERSUS THE WORLD
    ...
    Property rights
    ...
    The world’s view of private property :
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_property
    “....Private property is a legal designation of the ownership of property by non-governmental legal entities. Private property is distinguishable from public property, which is owned by a state entity; and collective property, which is owned by a group of non-governmental entities.”
    A non-government legal entity can own “private property,” as distinguished from government ownership of “public property.”

    America’s view of private property:
    "PRIVATE PROPERTY - As protected from being taken for public uses, is such property as belongs absolutely to an individual, and of which he has the exclusive right of disposition. Property of a specific, fixed and tangible nature, capable of being in possession and transmitted to another, such as houses, lands, and chattels."
    - - - Black's Law dictionary, sixth ed., p.1217.

    "OWNERSHIP - ... Ownership of property is either absolute or qualified. The ownership of property is absolute when a single person has the absolute dominion over it... The ownership is qualified when it is shared with one or more persons, when the time of enjoyment is deferred or limited, or when the use is restricted. "
    - - -Black's Law dictionary, sixth ed., p. 1106
    NOTE: Only in American law is private property absolutely owned. Estate ("real estate") is held with qualified ownership - shared, limited or deferred - and subject to ad valorem taxation.
    In other nations, "private property" only refers to property not owned by government.
    And is comparable with qualified ownership of estate.
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    Re: Starving the Beast, Solutions . . . . .



    Nineteen U.S. states launch investigations into BlackRock and Vanguard for embracing climate tyranny
    12/14/2022 / By Ethan Huff





    Nefarious efforts by two of the world’s largest asset managers to force America into “green energy” and the overarching ESG (environmental, social and governance) scheme face opposition from 19 states and counting that are launching investigations into their operations.

    BlackRock and Vanguard, which together control a sizable bulk of the world’s wealth, are targets of House Republicans who want to know: are either of them, or both, violating any antitrust laws with their ESG push? (Related: BlackRock and Vanguard own the media and Big Pharma.)

    Vanguard recently bowed out of the so-called Net Zero Asset Managers (NZAM) initiative, which is a step in the right direction. However, both it and BlackRock are still heavily invested in climate change initiatives that threaten the freedom of everyday Americans to live their lives without constant climate oppression.

    House Republicans recently sent a letter to the executives of the Steering Committee for Climate Action 100+ demanding all documents pertaining to NZAM’s network of influence. The following states have also taken their own individual action:

    • Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich back in August led a coalition of 19 states to warn BlackRock about potential antitrust violations associated with its push for mass adoption of ESG standards.

    • Florida pulled $2 billion in an anti-ESG divestment from BlackRock along with an announcement from the state’s CFO that the plan is to fully divest from BlackRock’s management in early 2023.

    • Texas recently subpoenaed BlackRock for documents pertaining to the ESG agenda because it is believed that the company is “using Texans’ money to force a narrow political agenda.”

    • Louisiana did much the same as Florida by pulling $794 million from BlackRock over the ESG scandal.

    • Missouri recently “sold all public equities managed by BlackRock, Inc., pulling approximately $500 million in pension funds from the investment manager” over the ESG agenda.

    • Utah likewise pulled $100 million in funds from BlackRock.

    • West Virginia and Arkansas also both pulled funds from BlackRock for similar reasons.

    If your money is in an NZAM-linked fund and you don’t support climate extremism, you might want to make a change

    As of this writing, Vanguard is no longer part of NZAM but BlackRock still is, hence all these moves by Republican-led states to punish the world’s largest asset manager. Other major financial institutions that are part of NZAM include Fidelity Investments, State Street Global Advisors, Morgan Stanley, and JPMorgan Chase.

    The following are also signatories of NZAM:

    • Brookfield Asset Management

    • Coutts & Co.

    • Rockefeller Asset Management

    • Rothschild & Co Asset Management Europe

    • Royal London Asset Management

    The stated goal of NZAM is to move portfolio companies closer to eliminating all “net carbon emissions” by the year 2050 or sooner. Vanguard says its decision to withdraw from this agenda hinges upon its desire to “provide the clarity our investors desire about the role of index funds and about how we think about material risks, including climate-related risks.”

    The move also came after multiple attorneys general filed motions with the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission to block Vanguard from purchasing shares in publicly traded utility companies due to concerns that its climate agenda might further increase energy prices while decreasing grid reliability.

    “Vanguard realized their entire business model could be at stake if they didn’t stop coordinating with other members to drive up energy costs,” announced Consumers’ Research Executive Director Will Hild, whose organization also filed a similar motion with the same agency.

    “We’ve struck a serious blow to the anti-consumer ESG agenda and we are going to keep fighting until these asset managers and banks get back to fulfilling their fiduciary duties and stop playing politics with other people’s money.”
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    Quote Posted by Tiyaira (here)
    Quote Posted by palehorse (here)
    Today, a Memorandum of Understanding has been signed between Malawi and Liberland through a special arm of the Liberland Aid Foundation. This Memorandum signifies the recognition of our country as a valid and worthy diplomatic and economic partner for the African State.

    ~~~

    Beside this news, also Colombia recognize officially the Liberland passport, Liberland are also in advanced talking with Pakistan and The Philipines.
    This is a good example of how a society can build international recognition without territory. These are necessary stepping stones to securing freedom for the people of Liberland. Thanks for the FYI palehorse!


    As ‚Liberland‘ for example has been mentioned several times, I took a look at their website out of curiosity. Sounds promising at first glance. Then I went to the biographies of people who are representatives of Liberland in many states around the world. There it started getting a bit nightmarish. Take a close look, it‘s interesting. Tells you a lot. Not sure if I really want to know the exact purpose and agendas of such socalled ‚micronations‘.

    Just a few examples.
    Representative office of Liberland in
    Austria: Anna Riedl https://www.weforum.org/people/anna-riedl
    Germany: Kolja Spöri https://germany.liberland.org/en/
    Russia: Andrey Voronkov https://voronkov.io/en/about
    UK:Tariq Abbasi https://uk.liberland.org/en/
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    Quote Posted by Iloveyou (here)
    Quote Posted by Tiyaira (here)
    Quote Posted by palehorse (here)
    Today, a Memorandum of Understanding has been signed between Malawi and Liberland through a special arm of the Liberland Aid Foundation. This Memorandum signifies the recognition of our country as a valid and worthy diplomatic and economic partner for the African State.

    ~~~

    Beside this news, also Colombia recognize officially the Liberland passport, Liberland are also in advanced talking with Pakistan and The Philipines.
    This is a good example of how a society can build international recognition without territory. These are necessary stepping stones to securing freedom for the people of Liberland. Thanks for the FYI palehorse!


    As ‚Liberland‘ for example has been mentioned several times, I took a look at their website out of curiosity. Sounds promising at first glance. Then I went to the biographies of people who are representatives of Liberland in many states around the world. There it started getting a bit nightmarish. Take a close look, it‘s interesting. Tells you a lot. Not sure if I really want to know the exact purpose and agendas of such socalled ‚micronations‘.

    Just a few examples.
    Representative office of Liberland in
    Austria: Anna Riedl https://www.weforum.org/people/anna-riedl
    Germany: Kolja Spöri https://germany.liberland.org/en/
    Russia: Andrey Voronkov https://voronkov.io/en/about
    UK:Tariq Abbasi https://uk.liberland.org/en/

    Thanks for taking the time to check this information, I didn't and I know I should before posting it.
    I also wrote in my previous post

    "I remember when they start not so long ago, it is unbelievable how fast they are moving (Note: I am not sure who is behind the entire thing)."
    quoting myself

    That explains why they are moving soooooo fast.

    Thanks again.
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    [QUOTE=palehorse;1533334][QUOTE=Iloveyou;1533294][QUOTE=Tiyaira;1532275]
    Quote Posted by palehorse (here)
    . . . check this information, I didn't and I know I should before posting it.
    I also wrote in my previous post

    "I remember when they start not so long ago, it is unbelievable how fast they are moving (Note: I am not sure who is behind the entire thing)."
    quoting myself
    No criticism intended. Glad you didn‘t. So we can see another example of how they (globalists, transhumanists) confuse and infiltrate everything. Every word, every idea, every tiny aspect of politics/social life is being used, turned upside down and perverted. Would be interesting to look into all the other ‚micronations‘. Thank YOU for so many posts full of empowerment and inspiration.
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    In order to starve the beast:

    What do you guys think of the possibility to create an ANTI GLOBALIST ALLIANCE for all those who want to go a different direction than global dictatorship and to

    UNITE ourselves in an ANTI GLOBALIST MANIFESTO refuting point by point the errors and deviations of the dystopian technocratic future the globalist try to create and by summing up all the alternatives.

    Who would be willing to work on such an alliance and manifesto?

    Idea comes from the video of Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/rU65ebKwqpFA/


    ! P.S.: Someone just told me that alliances, treaties, and other agreements might override sovereignty.

    When there are enough people interested in coming together
    (to create a group that represents and defends the points of view of all the people that don't want to end up in a dystopian technocracy)
    it's probably better to look at all the legal details and what format best to use to create such group ...
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    [QUOTE=Iloveyou;1533353][QUOTE=palehorse;1533334][QUOTE=Iloveyou;1533294]
    Quote Posted by Tiyaira (here)
    Quote Posted by palehorse (here)
    . . . check this information, I didn't and I know I should before posting it.
    I also wrote in my previous post

    "I remember when they start not so long ago, it is unbelievable how fast they are moving (Note: I am not sure who is behind the entire thing)."
    quoting myself
    No criticism intended. Glad you didn‘t. So we can see another example of how they (globalists, transhumanists) confuse and infiltrate everything. Every word, every idea, every tiny aspect of politics/social life is being used, turned upside down and perverted. Would be interesting to look into all the other ‚micronations‘. Thank YOU for so many posts full of empowerment and inspiration.

    I am glad too you pointed that out and I totally agree it would be interesting to know how many of these so called libertarian micronations (or at least the largest ones) has the help of the globalist invisible hands.

    Here is a full list of them
    https://micronations.wiki/wiki/List_of_micronations

    Interesting, Liberland is not listed on this wiki.

    I am registered to receive the newsletter of "The Seasteading institute", they are very controversial, if I am not wrong in the very beginning of their operation they got in trouble with the Thai government and Thai Navy, which kicked their butts out of Thailand (it was a couple, one Thai national and one foreign), 2 persons still wanted here with arresting warrants. But again I don't know much who is behind the project, for me the point of following their developments is to learn about the tech they are using, and get inspired with new ideas, beside that I don't usually dig much in who is behind the projects, but it is important to know.

    https://www.seasteading.org/
    (founded by Patri Friedman (Poker player dude) - Grandson of Nobel prize winning economist Milton Friedman)

    "Patri and Brit are self described transhumanists and rationalists, they have arranged to be cryonically preserved after their legal death." from Wikipedia

    I think that tells a lot about his personality.


    @Iloveyou I guess you are right, most of these "cool" developments with a lot of marketing around are backed if not entirely, partially by globalists scambags.

    We are better off on our own, doing it small without much noise, keep tight and clean is better.
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    Default Re: Starve the beast - solutions

    Quote Posted by All is one (here)
    In order to starve the beast:

    What do you guys think of the possibility to create an ANTI GLOBALIST ALLIANCE for all those who want to go a different direction than global dictatorship and to

    UNITE ourselves in an ANTI GLOBALIST MANIFESTO refuting point by point the errors and deviations of the dystopian technocratic future the globalist try to create and by summing up all the alternatives.

    Who would be willing to work on such an alliance and manifesto?

    Idea comes from the video of Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/rU65ebKwqpFA/

    Hi All is one,

    I watched the video, it is nicely packed with essential information of what is going on, a good and short one.

    I think it is totally possible to create a manifesto as part of the movement, but what would be even better, would be to create some sort of open public blueprint for how to setup/establish communities (I know one, but as usual it is paid content), even if that community counts to 1 at the very start.

    This is what I am trying to get my head around for quite a while, that's why I looking into learning about all sort of natural building structures (it has to be made with materials readily available in nature, taking into consideration the fall out of system which is inevitable at this point), as much as possible, and then wrap it up and try to create this blueprint sort of thing for ourselves and for the masses (whoever may be interested into it), but I realized I can't do that alone.

    Everything I found today is paid content, the free content does not cover details, just give a broad idea, but that we already got.

    I asked in a few posts above for @ozmirage about a blueprint of the ring village and he shared very insightful information, that's what I am talking about.

    I will reviews everything I got here and made a new post soon, listing all possible structures that would make more sense to try out in a fall out situation, we can't rely much in industry components for that or even electronics.

    A basic example: imagine all those who are going solar and suddenly with the fall out of industry, how would be possible to maintain such a thing in the long term? It is just not possible, unless someone stock in all parts, but batteries if not used for a very long time, it goes bad. In this case I would rely in simple things like burning fossil fuel for heating/cooking/etc.. rocket stoves are great it can even be used for heat water for shower, there is hundreds solutions without the use of modern technologies, low tech (read skills) is the tongue we need to be fluent.

    But please let me know what you have in mind, everything is welcome, we are all together in PA, and we can analyze each situation and arrive at a good consensus.

    I am positive about that.
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    In my humble opinion, the best option for us would be to learn and live like native Indians. Our modern slavery started when our grandfathers and grandmothers decided to move out of their farms to live in the cities.

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    Quote Posted by prc (here)
    In my humble opinion, the best option for us would be to learn and live like native Indians. Our modern slavery started when our grandfathers and grandmothers decided to move out of their farms to live in the cities.

    You are correct, unfortunately they were tricked like almost everybody else. But we still have time and skills to get back to that point.

    A while ago, I want to make charcoal, and I figured out that I didn't know how to do that, using basic logic I just imagined: "if I burn the wood in a bonfire. then it will become ashes." I added the wood into a barrel and closed it, placed the barrel in the bonfire and burned it for hours, the result was fresh beautiful lumps of coal.

    Most of the simple things we are able to figure out "on-the-fly", we don't need an App or anything else for that, we just have to trust ourselves and if necessary goes into trial and error until figure out properly.. that's the funny part of it all.
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    EARTHSHIP "BLUEPRINT"

    Hi folks, I found this document after digging a bit more into natural building and natural farming, I went through and found it very interesting the approach of having a small garden inside the house. The documents seems to be pretty much detailed enough to guide one into building it themselves.

    For what it worth, here are the files, it may be useful to someone hopefully.


    Earthship Vol.1 - How to build your own by Michael Reynolds




    source: https://pdfhost.io/v/b8uyRo84H_foo (just in case if it is not embedded properly)


    Earthship Vol.2 - Systems and components by Michael Reynolds




    source: https://pdfhost.io/v/3P0BsAbS._Earth...sandcomponents


    Earthship Vol.3 - Evolution beyond economics by Michael Reynolds




    source: https://pdfhost.io/v/otq0KwKpi_Earth...yond_economics
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    EARTHBAG "BLUEPRINT"


    Here is the introduction video of the "One Community Global" project.


    They offer open source blueprints for earthbags houses/villages and a lot of interesting things, check this out for more
    https://www.onecommunityglobal.org


    Earthbag Village Building Plans
    This page is where they are sharing all the files, taking into consideration that this project is big, and the budget they set is high, but since they are sharing individual files, it is possible to get the building plans for a single earthbag unit (sizes vary from 14 to 18 sq. m).

    (This page is a work in progress, check it often or subscribe to their news, to receive project development updates)
    https://www.onecommunityglobal.org/e...ans/#downloads




    The Cost

    On this page they provide the total cost to build a single earthbag dome (18.5 sq. m), and of course it will vary quite significantly in different countries. Using cob mixture instead of cement, would cut down the costs a bit, trying to build with local available or recycled material, can cut down the cost even more.
    https://www.onecommunityglobal.org/e...osts/#one-dome


    They also cover other approaches in designs, like:

    - Cob village (also provide single units blueprint)
    Large blocks
    - straw bale village
    - earth block village
    - shipping container village
    - recycled materials village
    - tree house village (avatar?)


    They offer a membership in this community, then anyone can join, but those who are not interested in joining, they offer all the blueprints at no cost at all, as an open source project, that is the only reason I am sharing it.

    ~~update~~
    On this page, there is a bunch more of earthbag plans
    https://www.earthbagbuilding.com/plans/plans.htm
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    We must say "no" to the digital ID, as it truly will be a prison system as shown in this short video:
    https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/a-d...you-right-now/

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    Today, a Memorandum of Understanding has been signed between Malawi and Liberland through a special arm of the Liberland Aid Foundation. This Memorandum signifies the recognition of our country as a valid and worthy diplomatic and economic partner for the African State.

    ~~~

    Beside this news, also Colombia recognize officially the Liberland passport, Liberland are also in advanced talking with Pakistan and The Philipines.
    This is a good example of how a society can build international recognition without territory. These are necessary stepping stones to securing freedom for the people of Liberland. Thanks for the FYI palehorse!


    As ‚Liberland‘ for example has been mentioned several times, I took a look at their website out of curiosity. Sounds promising at first glance. Then I went to the biographies of people who are representatives of Liberland in many states around the world. There it started getting a bit nightmarish. Take a close look, it‘s interesting. Tells you a lot. Not sure if I really want to know the exact purpose and agendas of such socalled ‚micronations‘.

    Just a few examples.
    Representative office of Liberland in
    Austria: Anna Riedl https://www.weforum.org/people/anna-riedl
    Germany: Kolja Spöri https://germany.liberland.org/en/
    Russia: Andrey Voronkov https://voronkov.io/en/about
    UK:Tariq Abbasi https://uk.liberland.org/en/

    Extending a bit further on this Liberland topic (I think it alone would do a great thread), I found this video today, it was posted 8 days ago on Liberland Official YT Channel



    The video is short direct to the point, only 1:56

    It is about Liberland opening a new embassy in Mexico. The thing is Jeff Berwick will be the ambassador LOL

    For what I know which is almost nothing about him, I just took the time to listen some of his videos to learn more about his intentions, he seems to run a large crypto operation with Dollar Vigilante.. he was the founder of Anarcapulco, he is Canadian but he lives in Mexico.. first I heard about him many years ago, was not good at all, people were saying to be scammed by him and many were calling the dude a con man.. anyway, I never follow anything about him at all, I won't judge it, I am just posting the news about Liberland, seems like they are moving faster than I previously imagined.
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    Quote Posted by Arcturian108 (here)
    We must say "no" to the digital ID, as it truly will be a prison system as shown in this short video:
    https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/a-d...you-right-now/
    Thanks for bring us back on topic

    Here is another article very interesting, there is high hopes even after the implementation of CBDC, lot of people working hard to bring to life new systems that no governments or authorities could stop, some programmers involved are completely anonymous because they are touching into the legal system and they are fully aware what the thugs in government do to them once they get caught. God bless each one of them for their courage and braveness.

    "In other words, the group believes that the high-tech game of cat and mouse between rogue crypto coders and governments that has gone on for over a decade is still only just beginning."

    ref.:
    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/0...ement-00080950
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    This video goes into some details about self-custody, he speaks about the modular federated e-cash prototype developed by Fedimint and how it works when employed by a community using multisig wallet (multiple keyholders - think of a joint bank account), controlled by members of the community, which is more or less the idea of a shared wallet, the funds can only be withdrawn based on the number of co-payers required to withdraw funds, for example a multsig wallet shared by 20 people that require at least *20 people OR 20-1 people signing the transaction.

    * I don't know the limit of co-signers allowed with Bitcoin, or if it varies from one crypto currency to another, that would be interesting to know the limitations, in Monero for example the scheme of multisign wallets works as N-N and N-1 and each co-signer must setup their wallets exactly the same way in order to it works. The N-1 scheme works well if there is death or disability involved with one of the co-payers, imagine losing all funds because 1 co-payer died suddenly and nobody got access to his passphrase.




    From their website : "Fedimint is an open source protocol to custody and transact bitcoin in a community context, built on a strong foundation of privacy."
    source: https://fedimint.org/docs/intro

    I have to investigate it in more details to grasp what make it different from only have a Monero multisig wallet for instance instead of it, seems to be using bitcoin lightning network for fast transactions.

    In a high level concept, they claim to be some sort of community custody platform and it is based on trust of the high members of the community, which is possible to achieve using only bitcoin or monero.. let's see where it goes.
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    I have read through the thread very quickly so my apologies if this has already been brought up and I missed it...

    I wonder if something like this could be created and followed through...What if we created a webpage, you tube, tick tock, etc., as just a way to send out a message to all of the people of like minds - just create a way to get a message to as many of us as possible.

    If we could establish a simple thing that people could recognize for a short message, we could really get the attention of TPTB (not directly) but as a group of course and maybe something like this might even have a positive affect on those who are brain washed.

    Coordinating small things then gradually get bigger/longer in the message. Start with a world wide "1 minute sit down", then maybe the next one could be just applause (clapping for 30 seconds).

    Once established, this could grow into larger/longer things. Just walking and holding up a small sign that says "Time to wake up!" Imagine if you did that at a certain set time and date and then you saw a few other people with the same sign.

    Have you seen those "flash mobs" and how people around are intrigued and their spirits are lifted?

    Of course the effort would need participation from people around the world to get the word out if/when the you tube message is taken down etc

    Communicating/coordinating and reaching enough people is key, but I wonder if it could be done.

    Yes it would be small at first but momentum and curiosity could take hold.

    If you have never seen a flash mob, here is an example - once people saw it, people around the world started doing similar gatherings.


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    Quote Posted by Patient (here)
    I have read through the thread very quickly so my apologies if this has already been brought up and I missed it...

    I wonder if something like this could be created and followed through...What if we created a webpage, you tube, tick tock, etc., as just a way to send out a message to all of the people of like minds - just create a way to get a message to as many of us as possible.

    If we could establish a simple thing that people could recognize for a short message, we could really get the attention of TPTB (not directly) but as a group of course and maybe something like this might even have a positive affect on those who are brain washed.

    Coordinating small things then gradually get bigger/longer in the message. Start with a world wide "1 minute sit down", then maybe the next one could be just applause (clapping for 30 seconds).

    Once established, this could grow into larger/longer things. Just walking and holding up a small sign that says "Time to wake up!" Imagine if you did that at a certain set time and date and then you saw a few other people with the same sign.

    Have you seen those "flash mobs" and how people around are intrigued and their spirits are lifted?

    Of course the effort would need participation from people around the world to get the word out if/when the you tube message is taken down etc

    Communicating/coordinating and reaching enough people is key, but I wonder if it could be done.

    Yes it would be small at first but momentum and curiosity could take hold.

    If you have never seen a flash mob, here is an example - once people saw it, people around the world started doing similar gatherings.


    Hi Patient, I was looking again into the idea, did you see how protests are been hold lately? It is basically ignored and in some countries they are really f****ing up people and holding then in cells.. does not matter if it is peaceful protest or violent ones, they are all the same in the eyes of the "lulus" and "fifis" in charge.

    I think from where we are and into the future, the next protests will be more violent and radical, they equalized any sort of dislikes as criminal behavior, doing so it just opened the doors for more crime and violence.. after all that is what evil wants anyway.
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    Quote Posted by ozmirage (here)
    Quote Posted by shaberon (here)
    The difficulty is that it was never a cause, there was no common understanding based on this, and if not then it is hard to say it was the intent of the Founding Fathers. There was no such thing as an American National:
    IF THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN AMERICAN NATIONAL, WHY IS THIS SECTION IN THE USCODE?
    .....
    In my copy of the 1993 edition of the 1992 US Code (50 titles),

    Right...after 1940, there is such a thing as an American National, for which all one would need is evidence that you were born in Samoa.

    So, maybe it only comes up one time in the USC because there never was such a thing until then.

    My issues from post 58 are also that the phrase "republican form of government" has no particular meaning, let alone a legal one. And that, in the Revolutionary era, of course no one was concerned about federal citizenship, because there was nothing federal. Instead, when British law was cast off, everyone was presumed a citizen of their State. Even if gloriously free of the Fed, one was still a subject.

    All of the future was designed about increasing the flow and amount of citizens to the new country, from which there was no protection, at least in the legal sense, until 1940, when National status was invented for Samoans--which of course was seen as disadvantageous, sort of a push-off or keeping them as fringe material.

    The discussions underway *do* seem to be about minimizing the federal government, *but* the thesis is flawed if, instead of being a federal subject, one was automatically, informatively, and willingly, a subject of the new State, which says nothing about the type of government or relationship thereto.

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    Quote Posted by shaberon (here)
    Quote Posted by ozmirage (here)
    Quote Posted by shaberon (here)
    The difficulty is that it was never a cause, there was no common understanding based on this, and if not then it is hard to say it was the intent of the Founding Fathers. There was no such thing as an American National:
    IF THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN AMERICAN NATIONAL, WHY IS THIS SECTION IN THE USCODE?
    .....
    In my copy of the 1993 edition of the 1992 US Code (50 titles),

    Right...after 1940, there is such a thing as an American National, for which all one would need is evidence that you were born in Samoa.

    So, maybe it only comes up one time in the USC because there never was such a thing until then.

    My issues from post 58 are also that the phrase "republican form of government" has no particular meaning, let alone a legal one. And that, in the Revolutionary era, of course no one was concerned about federal citizenship, because there was nothing federal. Instead, when British law was cast off, everyone was presumed a citizen of their State. Even if gloriously free of the Fed, one was still a subject.

    All of the future was designed about increasing the flow and amount of citizens to the new country, from which there was no protection, at least in the legal sense, until 1940, when National status was invented for Samoans--which of course was seen as disadvantageous, sort of a push-off or keeping them as fringe material.

    The discussions underway *do* seem to be about minimizing the federal government, *but* the thesis is flawed if, instead of being a federal subject, one was automatically, informatively, and willingly, a subject of the new State, which says nothing about the type of government or relationship thereto.
    A U.S. national (like one born in Samoa) is not synonymous with an American national. And the supreme Court admitted that American people are subjects, whereas citizens are sovereigns, right?

    NOPE. The other way around.
    PEOPLE are sovereigns - CITIZENS are subjects.
    PEOPLE have endowed rights - CITIZENS surrendered their endowment.
    - - - -
    Proof?
    Easy Peasy.


    Geo.Wash. Sums it up nicely in 1783 - long before the constitution
    . . .
    “It may be laid down, as a primary position, and the basis of our system, that every citizen who enjoys the protection of a free government, owes not only a proportion of his property, but even of his personal services to the defence of it, and consequently that the Citizens of America (with a few legal and official exceptions) from 18 to 50 Years of Age should be borne on the Militia Rolls, provided with uniform Arms, and so far accustomed to the use of them, that the Total strength of the Country might be called forth at Short Notice on any very interesting Emergency.”
    - - - George Washington; "Sentiments on a Peace Establishment" in a letter to Alexander Hamilton (2 May 1783); published in The Writings of George Washington (1938), edited by John C. Fitzpatrick, Vol. 26, p. 289.

    [... Every citizen ... owes a portion of his property ... and services in defense ... in the militia ... from 18 to 50 years of age... ]

    IN SHORT,
    The American citizen has no endowed right to life, nor liberty, nor absolute ownership because, as a subject, he can be ordered to train, fight, and die, on command (militia duty), and was obligated to give up a portion of his property (qualified ownership of estate, via ad valorem taxes, etc). .. by his consent to be governed.
    Shut up, sit down, pay and obey.

    = = = = =
    CONSENT OF THE CITIZENRY
    “ Our theory of government and governmental powers is wholly at variance with that urged by appellant herein. The rights of the individual are not derived from governmental agencies, either municipal, state or federal, or even from the Constitution. They exist inherently in every man, by endowment of the Creator, and are merely reaffirmed in the Constitution, and restricted only to the extent that they have been VOLUNTARILY SURRENDERED BY THE CITIZENSHIP to the agencies of government. The people's rights are not derived from the government, but the government's authority comes from the people. The Constitution but states again these rights already existing, and when legislative encroachment by the nation, state, or municipality invade these original and permanent rights, it is the duty of the courts to so declare, and to afford the necessary relief. The fewer restrictions that surround the individual liberties of the citizen, except those for the preservation of the public health, safety, and morals, the more contented the people and the more successful the democracy.”
    - - - City of Dallas v Mitchell, 245 S.W. 944
    https://casetext.com/case/city-of-dallas-v-mitchell-1
    . . .
    The rights of the individual / national / non-citizen / inhabitant / non-resident are not derived from government, but are Creator endowed... (i.e., republican form of government)
    But once consent to be governed is granted, via citizenship, that endowment has been surrendered / waived by the citizenry. Why? Because mandatory civic duties abrogate endowed natural rights, natural and personal liberty, absolute ownership of private property, etc, etc. That’s the consequence of migrating to their [socialist] democratic form of government, where a majority can legally persecute a minority... or tax the snot out of them.
    It’s been part of the law since day one. Did you miss the part in the Declaration where they pledged “their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor”? All citizens are presumed to have made that same pledge. That’s how conscription / militia duty is 100% constitutional and not a violation of rights and liberties... “Volunteers” don’t have any.

    Now you have to ask the government to explain exactly from whom did they get the delegated power to impose citizenship upon infants who cannot consent, and thus via mandatory civic duties, ABROGATE THE ENDOWED RIGHTS that governments were instituted to secure.
    . . .
    GOVERNMENT IS NOT THE SOVEREIGN
    >>>||||||<<<
    “It will be sufficient to observe briefly that the sovereignties in Europe, and particularly in England, exist on feudal principles. That system considers the Prince as the sovereign, and the people as his subjects; it regards his person as the object of allegiance, and excludes the idea of his being on an equal footing with a subject, either in a court of justice or elsewhere... No such ideas obtain here; at the Revolution, the sovereignty devolved on the PEOPLE, and they are truly the SOVEREIGNS of the country, but they are SOVEREIGNS WITHOUT SUBJECTS, and have none to govern but themselves[.]

    “From the differences existing between feudal sovereignties and governments founded on compacts, it necessarily follows that their respective prerogatives must differ. Sovereignty is the right to govern; a nation or State sovereign is the person or persons in whom that resides. In Europe, the sovereignty is generally ascribed to the Prince; here, it rests with the [sovereign] people; there, the sovereign actually administers the government; here, never in a single instance; our Governors are the agents of the people, and, at most, stand in the same relation to their sovereign in which regents in Europe stand to their sovereigns."
    - - - Justice John Jay in Chisholm v. Georgia (2 U.S. 419 (1793))
    https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremec...CR_0002_0419_Z

    Who are the sovereigns served by the servant government?
    The PEOPLE !

    ● DEVOLVE - To pass on or delegate to another.
    ● REGENT - One who rules during the minority, absence, or disability of a monarch.
    ● SOVEREIGN - One that exercises supreme, permanent authority, especially in a nation or other governmental unit.
    ● CITIZEN - One who is subject of a sovereign, and has mandatory civic duties that abrogate endowed rights.

    The sovereign American people have the right to govern - themselves. They have supreme power only over that which they absolutely own - private property. They descend to servants, when in the government. And to be eligible to serve in the government, they must assert citizenship - which entails accepting mandatory civic duties which amount to a surrender of endowed rights to life, liberty and absolute ownership of private property. (This is how “Selective Service” is not involuntary servitude)

    The USCON concurs - People have rights and powers (9th and 10th amendments) - Citizens have privileges and immunities (not endowed rights).

    At one time, Americans were aware of the difference... long before national socialism (1930s)
    .................................................................
    ALIEN, n. An American sovereign in his probationary state.
    - - - - “The Devil’s Dictionary” (1906), by Ambrose Bierce
    (download available from www.gutenberg.org)
    .................................................................

    P.S. - there is no such thing as a "sovereign citizen" (oxymoron).

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