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    Question Strep A Outbreak in the UK killing Kids

    I'm sure at least all of us in the UK have heard about this, and that they are blaming "lockdown" for children not building adequate immune systems.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...-b2238922.html

    Well, maybe it's the new flu vaxxes they are sticking up kids noses that's doing it ?

    Live attenuated influenza vaccine enhances colonization of Streptococcus pneumoniae and Staphylococcus aureus in mice



    Abstract
    Community interactions at mucosal surfaces between viruses, like influenza virus, and respiratory bacterial pathogens are important contributors toward pathogenesis of bacterial disease. What has not been considered is the natural extension of these interactions to live attenuated immunizations, and in particular, live attenuated influenza vaccines (LAIVs). Using a mouse-adapted LAIV against influenza A (H3N2) virus carrying the same mutations as the human FluMist vaccine, we find that LAIV vaccination reverses normal bacterial clearance from the nasopharynx and significantly increases bacterial carriage densities of the clinically important bacterial pathogens Streptococcus pneumoniae (serotypes 19F and 7F) and Staphylococcus aureus (strains Newman and Wright) within the upper respiratory tract of mice. Vaccination with LAIV also resulted in 2- to 5-fold increases in mean durations of bacterial carriage. Furthermore, we show that the increases in carriage density and duration were nearly identical in all aspects to changes in bacterial colonizing dynamics following infection with wild-type (WT) influenza virus. Importantly, LAIV, unlike WT influenza viruses, had no effect on severe bacterial disease or mortality within the lower respiratory tract. Our findings are, to the best of our knowledge, the first to demonstrate that vaccination with a live attenuated viral vaccine can directly modulate colonizing dynamics of important and unrelated human bacterial pathogens, and does so in a manner highly analogous to that seen following wild-type virus infection.

    Importance: Following infection with an influenza virus, infected or recently recovered individuals become transiently susceptible to excess bacterial infections, particularly Streptococcus pneumoniae and Staphylococcus aureus. Indeed, in the absence of preexisting comorbidities, bacterial infections are a leading cause of severe disease during influenza epidemics. While this synergy has been known and is well studied, what has not been explored is the natural extension of these interactions to live attenuated influenza vaccines (LAIVs). Here we show, in mice, that vaccination with LAIV primes the upper respiratory tract for increased bacterial growth and persistence of bacterial carriage, in a manner nearly identical to that seen following wild-type influenza virus infections. Importantly, LAIV, unlike wild-type virus, did not increase severe bacterial disease of the lower respiratory tract. These findings may have consequences for individual bacterial disease processes within the upper respiratory tract, as well as bacterial transmission dynamics within LAIV-vaccinated populations.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24549845/
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    Was just about to post this story, let’s hope this has nothing to do with this…

    Children’s nasal spray flu vaccination programme starts today
    ***Photos will be issued to photo desks by Photocall Ireland***

    HSE Press Release

    Monday, 17th October 2022

    HSE encourages parents to protect children from flu this winter with the free nasal spray flu vaccine

    Today (Monday, 17th of October 2022), the HSE is asking parents of all children aged 2 to 17 years to get the free nasal spray flu vaccine. The nasal spray flu vaccine gives children the best protection from flu. The flu vaccine will also help protect others, like siblings, parents, grandparents and those who are vulnerable.

    https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news...rts-today.html

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    Here we go again, it's bloody relentless. I wonder how many parents will be falling for this? Sadly, I think I know the answer...

    Here's Dr Vernon Coleman's take.

    https://davidicke.com/2022/12/06/the...strep-a-scare/

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    Quote Posted by Mari (here)
    Here we go again, it's bloody relentless. I wonder how many parents will be falling for this? Sadly, I think I know the answer...

    Here's Dr Vernon Coleman's take.

    https://davidicke.com/2022/12/06/the...strep-a-scare/

    That damm jab again..



    Prior to 2019, it was easily treated... and now.. this sh*"*.... man, Im telling you.. this is an outright war on our health! .. absolute war!

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    I wrote about the Strep A situation yesterday on another thread but speculated that it could be partly because of the covid vaccines, these nasal vaccines seem a nightmare as well. There are so many chemicals that they are throwing at our poor children today and wrecking their natural immunity.

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1531378
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    Quote Posted by Mari (here)
    Here we go again, it's bloody relentless. I wonder how many parents will be falling for this? Sadly, I think I know the answer...

    Here's Dr Vernon Coleman's take.

    https://davidicke.com/2022/12/06/the...strep-a-scare/

    That damm jab again..



    Prior to 2019, it was easily treated... and now.. this sh*"*.... man, Im telling you.. this is an outright war on our health! .. absolute war!

    Without a shadow of a doubt. I remember, pre-2019, that 'Strep' was hardly anything to get this anxious about and indeed 'Step-Throat' was a common complaint amongst kids and adults. But now - because of the scamdemic emotional 'priming' that's happened, people are so susceptible to being played. This is indeed a war...not just for the physical but on all levels.

    And...IS it killing kids? Or could it be the kids who have died were jabbed?
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    I suspect they started putting mRNA into so called jabs in 2019 and ALL vaccines will now be mRNA (various venums) to permanently alter the human genome if you survive.

    According to Dr Peter McCullogh mRNA spiked proteins are permanent and can even be passed to a baby through breast feeding

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/dr...source=popular

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    Quote Posted by Mari (here)
    Without a shadow of a doubt. I remember, pre-2019, that 'Strep' was hardly anything to get this anxious about and indeed 'Step-Throat' was a common complaint amongst kids and adults. But now - because of the scamdemic emotional 'priming' that's happened, people are so susceptible to being played. This is indeed a war...not just for the physical but on all levels.

    And...IS it killing kids? Or could it be the kids who have died were jabbed?
    When you have a synthetic spike protein manufacture in your cells going rampant, and not ceasing per output, this puts a strain on your overall immune system. It literally taxes the immune system to such an extent that it begins to ignore it's protection routine. Strep A is a type of bacteria, and if anyone has been jabbed with the cv19 mRNA, and has this repetitive synthetic spike production routine, which does not stop, then yes, Strep A can become deadly as ANY bacteria infection could. This is common sense to first year microbiologists, med students or whatever..when you have something taxing on your immune system.

    They keep trying to debunk this... over and over again... saying that this is not true - and it does not affect the immune system. Hello? Hellooooo? How stupid can people be?

    And now I keep seeing this crap on youtube every friggin commercial break:

    https://imgur.com/a/ef5YWtZ

    They keep repeating this.. over and over again.. sounds like they're expecting it to happen too as well...

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    Here is Dr. John Campbell's review of the Strep throat situation in the UK with the death of 9 children so far.

    At the end of the video he asks...Is this a post lockdown effect?

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    Ok, I know there are many threads that cover basic items people should have in their tool kit for emergencies when medications are unavailable... So I have to ask, what would be the best basic medications one could stock up on for such an emergency. Strep and Staph infections?

    Having not gotten the vax, but having already been stocking up on supplies "Just in case", I have had a family member suffer from pnemonia after getting CoVid, and while they were vaxed and did get treatment and medication for their pnemonia, I really think the medicaions for such things will soon be pulled from the market or "Shortages" will be experienced, as this is beginning to happen in America on a serious level.

    I just want to make sure my own family "Stash" is complete to tackle any and all emergencies... Does anyone know the best treatments for such things? Because I don't think this is going to "Go Away" any time soon.. And I would hate to lose an older family member due to a lack of treatment, as they are both still sick after having CoVid a MONTH ago...

    I have a small stash of a few things, (z Pacs and Cipro) but no penicillian based meds as I am allergic) but I am not sure if they would really treat this effectively.. I am going to get some "Cillians" such as amoxicillin, and penicillian as I know they effectively treat a host of things, but I am unsure what else works for other possible conditions we may face..

    I do want to be able to help family and friends should they find themselves in a situation where treatments are being withheld for ANY reason..

    In Short, what are the best all around antibiotics, and anti virals, and other treatments that can help someone through some of the most dangerous illnesses? As well as side treatments that may pair well to help these things work?

    Please feel free to move this post to the appropriate thread, I didn't have time to find them, but this one tackles these conditions specifically, and I have young grandchildren whom just got sick recently.
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    Default Re: Strep A Outbreak in the UK killing Kids

    Denise - I would suggest that we have oil of oregano on hand, along with some other essential oils.


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    Default Re: Strep A Outbreak in the UK killing Kids

    Received a letter from HSE, (Health Service Executive), today via school principal to all parents etc. I've taken the liberty of copying three short paragraphs here as they literally contradict each other!

    Quote Significant increase in viral infections

    We have seen a significant increase in the usual winter viral infections. This includes an increase in
    flu. This is because children are mixing together more. In previous years social contact was much
    reduced. This in turn reduced the rates of routine infection.
    Umm, maybe over the last two winters social contact was reduced. Anywway, what about this significant increase then?

    Quote Ireland has seen cases of more serious infections recently. But so far there has been no increase
    compared to what we saw before the Covid-19 pandemic
    .
    Umm, you mean nothing to see here then?

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    I would refer you back to the pubmed article in the OP as, guess what, the letter goes on to advise parents that getting the nasal spray flu vaccine would be a pretty good idea.
    (I guess that might lead to an increase in Strep infections then).

    Quote 3) Vaccination

    Making sure your child is up to date on all recommended vaccinations will help:
    - stop your child getting an infection and
    - make them less likely to be unwell if they do get an infection
    Routine childhood vaccinations protect against many significant viral and bacterial infections.
    There is no vaccine against many viral illnesses or Strep A.

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