The Multipolar World Order (yes, it's coming)

[pounamuknight]

Looks like they've given up trying to sweet talk India into to the garden

"Credible allegations" for the killing of Sikh Canadian, Hardeep Singh Nijaar. Khalistan separatist who was wanted by Indian Intelligence (NIA) and Interpol



Is Canada a haven for separatist movements of Sikhs seeking the creation of an independent Khalistan in Punjab, India? Maybe...

I mean, Canada ignored several extradition requests from India. Allowed several "Free Khalistan" referendums

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=1Z7uoG_cBqs

The leader of the New Democratic Party, Jagmeet Singh, a loud pro-Khalistan activist and in Canada's ruling coalition

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=wnU45bVDqek

Then there's this weirdness

[9ideon]

Posted by pounamuknight (here)
Looks like they've given up trying to sweet talk India into to the garden

Actually, I think it has to do with something which happened while Feckdeau was in India, as he is being bombarded by opposition in Canada and he needs to maintain a certain standing in order to rig the next elections (despite his shocking approval rating), he can't take the chance that story comes out in full. By blackening India with lies (as they all do these so called Western Leaders, no honour!) everything concerning that issue on his G-20 trip now holds no power anymore with the sheeple masses.

[pounamuknight]

Posted by 9ideon (here)
Actually, I think it has to do with something which happened while Feckdeau was in India.

Thats right! Trudeau's disastrous G20 visit in India a few weeks ago



During which these assets charming fellas back in Canada told the world they were gonna "balkanize India"

And Modi had to pull Trudeau aside, to have a quiet but firm word about those extremist pals of his

PM Modi conveyed to Trudeau New Delhi’s strong concerns about continuing anti-India activities of extremist elements in Canada

And you may be onto something about Canada's upcoming election in October. The previous Sikh governor of Punjab (Khalistan) also thinks Trudeau's playing to his base

Watch this space

[9ideon]

Posted by pounamuknight (here)

Posted by 9ideon (here)
Actually, I think it has to do with something which happened while Feckdeau was in India.

Thats right! Trudeau's disastrous G20 visit in India a few weeks ago

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During which these assets charming fellas back in Canada told the world they were gonna "balkanize India"

And Modi had to pull Trudeau aside, to have a quiet but firm word about those extremist pals of his

PM Modi conveyed to Trudeau New Delhi’s strong concerns about continuing anti-India activities of extremist elements in Canada

And you may be onto something about Canada's upcoming election in October. The previous Sikh governor of Punjab (Khalistan) also thinks Trudeau's playing to his base

Watch this space

It is interesting to see "they've" come up with their same dishonest tactics (as done on so many previous happenings), coming out saying intelligence shows this, that, such and so. When asked for proof, it's always the same answer, we can't show you proof because it is classified. The thing is, when something's classified you do not ever mention it, period!

You know, they're throwing Biden under the bus, they're now moving towards Feckdeau, I do not trust this one bit, some of these puppetmasters are seeing where all of this is going and they're basically moving pieces so the public can concentrate on anything but them, most People are probably going to fall for it again, nothing will change because of it (look at Italy and the puppet which got elected on blatant lying).

[shaberon]

It appears China is off the $1 T U. S. holdings mark, reviewing it through the recent period of highs and lows:


The People's Republic of China's (PRC) stash of US Treasuries has dropped to $821.8 billion, which is the lowest since May 2009, as US Treasury Department data indicated on Monday.

Fourteen years ago, the PRC reduced its Treasury bond holdings to just $776.4 billion in the wake of the global financial crisis of 2008. Now, the US' economic situation has also prompted concerns in Beijing, according to the Chinese media.

The PRC has been steadily getting rid of US Treasuries since April 2022, with Chinese financial experts at the Renmin University of China saying the reduction is a long-term strategy caused by prognoses that the US will slide into recession in 2024, as well as the erosion of the dollar's dominance worldwide.

In addition, China is concerned by the fact that the US gross national debt exceeded $33 trillion for the first time on Monday.



It did, while approaching the Sept. 30 fiscal deadline, at the angle of this very steep climb:


This is a record-breaking figure for the US public debt. On June 16, it exceeded $32 trillion.

In January, the US government debt ceiling, set at $31.4 trillion, was exceeded. After this, the country's Department of the Treasury was forced to use emergency measures to continue its financial operations. On June 3, US President Joe Biden signed a bill passed earlier by the Congress to raise the national debt ceiling. The move, which, according to the president, allowed the country to avoid an economic crisis and collapse, was adopted by the Senate on June 1.



There it is, June-September equals another Trillion in debt. Facing insolvency each time.

Meanwhile, the order represented by the U. S. and E. U. still cannot take its first step over the basics like cheap food, with the mission of Kiev being canceled:

The meeting was important because of the row that has erupted between Poland and Ukraine because of Warsaw's singlehanded decision to stop importing Ukrainian grain. Although the two presidents were reportedly supposed to confer on the course of the botched Ukrainian counteroffensive, another hot topic would undoubtedly have been the Polish embargo on agricultural products from Ukraine and the Ukrainian complaint to the WTO.

Kiev filed lawsuits with the World Trade Organization (WTO) against Poland, Hungary, and Slovakia because they had ceased their imports of Ukrainian products, the Ukrainian Economy Ministry said on Monday. Ukraine has retaliated by introducing an embargo on Polish onions, tomatoes, cabbages, and apples, Polish news outlets reported on 19 September.

Regarding the WTO complaint by Ukraine, Duda said that if Kiev went through with it, Poland would state its case before the tribunal. Pointing out that the ban applied only to imports of Ukrainian grain and not to grain passing through Poland, he added: "There are business circles that have interests in Ukraine and would like to sell grain as quickly as possible at the lowest possible cost. We have to defend ourselves against it."

The point of a few western agri-businesses buying up your land and repealing labor laws was so that all this grain could be produced cheaply, which I guess that works so good, it undercut the cheap of Polish and other producers, then the answer is to shut the door; after all, it is only food, not weapons.


While DPRK is "normalizing", at least with its neighbors:

Former Austrian Foreign Minister Karin Kneissl now heads a new think tank in St. Petersburg, G.O.R.K.I. As a European who ended up being ostracized by her own peers under the blatant toxicity of cancel culture, she stressed how freedom and rule of law have disappeared in Europe.

Kneissl referred to the Battle of Actium as the key passage of power from the Eastern Mediterranean to the Western Mediterranean: “That’s when the dominance of the West started”, complete with all the mythology built around the Roman Empire which obsesses the Anglosphere to this day.

With sanctions dementia and irrational Russophobia installed at the head of the EU and the European Commission, Kneissl stressed, the notion that “treaties must be preserved” disappeared while “the rule of law has been destroyed. This is the worst that could have happened to Europe”.

Alexander Dugin, online, called for understanding “the depth of Western domination”, expressed via hyper-liberalism. And he proposed a key breakthrough: the Western modus operandi should become an object of research, in a sort of Gramscian attempt to define what distinguishes Western ideology, and thus act towards “deep decolonization”.

Let's see. In some cases, the Hegemon was able to rapidly and utterly shift power in some countries. Sometimes they bog down in those pesky resistance movements, and sometimes you manage to catch almost all the offenders, to whom something bad happens. Well, the Office of Naval Intelligence came out in the late 1800s, mainly to study why the American Navy was inferior to that of Chile. Its rival, the CIA, swallowed the place whole in 1973, which we may hear about from a Pinochet survivor who made it out in 1976:


According to Corvalán, the current global campaign of Russophobia is "insane." In this regard she regretted the attitude of the incumbent president of Chile, Gabriel Boric, who sides with Kiev when it comes to the Ukraine conflict.

"They completely ruined our lives. I suffered academically, politically or even in terms of friendships. Who would talk to you during the dictatorship? Our family was constantly being watched. In other words, whoever approached us was immediately claimed a communist," she said.

The evil done to her family was so great that Corvalán admits: she still feels "terrible rage" and refuses to forgive those involved in the crimes committed during the dictatorship.

"Honestly, when people tell me about the healing power of forgiveness, I say that it is not reconciliation or forgiveness I seek, it is justice” Corvalán said, particularly furious that those who tortured her brother got away with killing him.

When talking about the Russian capital and its residents, Corvalán emphasized their "greatness" and "elegance." She also added that Soviet society was "fantastic” and “wonderful," regarding its social achievements, which are still unattainable for many countries today.

"People were entitled to free housing, even if it was a communal apartment. The number of tents and homeless people we have in the streets of Chile is inconceivable. In the Soviet Union, however, despite having to share a bathroom and kitchen, you still had a place to live. There were thousands of construction cranes in Moscow, because there was always something being built," she said.

"I could financially afford to pursue whatever studies I wanted; I had a place to live, I had access to free health care, I had love, colleagues and friends I keep in touch with to this day," says Corvalán, highlighting the stability of her life in the Soviet Union, in stark contrast with the anxiety she felt upon her return to Chile.

"This anxiety comes from the stress about not having enough money for rent, food, and your daughter’s school. Then, at night, there’s fear of break-ins and burglars. I experienced none of it in the Soviet Union," said Corvalán.

"The Soviet Union was where I felt the happiest. It is not only the USSR I miss, but also Russia," she said.

She also noted that the anti-Russian campaign in the West largely reminds her of Pinochet attacking the communists, which, according to her, is still relevant.

"I can feel the anti-communist sentiment to this day. It is the same with Russophobia," she told #SputnikMundo. She said she is ready to stand up to such attacks and lies. “I am the daughter of a man who was very brave and consistent, a man who taught us not to be afraid to tell the truth," Corvalán concluded.






Daughters Secretary of the Communist Party of Chili, Luis Corvalan, Viviana, left, and Mariya-Victoriya, at news conference at the Soviet Committee of Solidarity with Chilean Democrats.





Daughters if the Chile Communist party secretary general Luis Corvalan - Viviana (left) and Maria Victoria (right) with the WWII veteran, Hero of the Soviet Union, pilot Nadezhda Popova.

[shaberon]

Posted by pounamuknight (here)
Is Canada a haven for separatist movements of Sikhs seeking the creation of an independent Khalistan in Punjab, India? Maybe...

This is a quite thick knot.

Roughly put, India was subjected to a then-new round of invasions from the west starting in the 800s. This more or less only increased until by around the 1200s, the Mughals conquered a great deal of India in a significant way. Destructive and mono-polar and similar to what is called a Caliphate.

Sikhism is the youngest "major religion" and it did not exist then, since, it is more or less a backlash against Muslim and Hindu hypocrites. Both traditions have something peaceful and perhaps wise, and yet allow for extremist interpretations, such as crusades for the purpose of conversion. So, one might think the Sikhs have a pretty valid point, and arise in the middle of the clash.


Then we would find the Sikh Empire was originally successful at repelling non-Indians:


The foundation of the Sikh Empire can be traced to as early as 1707, the year of Aurangzeb's death and the start of the downfall of the Mughal Empire. With the Mughals significantly weakened, the Sikh army, known as the Dal Khalsa, a rearrangement of the Khalsa inaugurated by Guru Gobind Singh, led expeditions against them and the Afghans in the west.


That was due to discontent from the 1600s because:


His successor Jahangir, saw the Sikhs as a political threat. He ordered Guru Arjun Dev, who had been arrested for supporting the rebellious Khusrau Mirza, to change the passage about Islam in the Adi Granth. When the Guru refused, Jahangir ordered him to be put to death by torture.


Guru Tegh Bahadur aided Kashmiri Pandits in avoiding conversion to Islam and was arrested by Aurangzeb. When offered a choice between conversion to Islam and death, he chose to die rather than compromise his principles and was executed.

In 1716, his [Banda Singh Bahadur's] army was defeated by the Mughals after he attempted to defend his fort at Gurdas Nangal. He was captured along with 700 of his men and sent to Delhi, where they were all tortured and executed after refusing to convert to Islam.




See a pattern?

But in addition to receiving Jewish refugees fleeing Islamic persecution:


The Sikh Empire was idiosyncratic in that it allowed men from religions other than their own to rise to commanding positions of authority.

Every year, while at Amritsar, Ranjit Singh visited shrines of holy people of other faiths, including several Muslim saints, which did not offend even the most religious Sikhs of his administration. As relayed by Fakir Nuruddin, orders were issued to treat people of all faith groups, occupations, and social levels equally and in accordance with the doctrines of their faith, per the Shastras and the Quran, as well as local authorities like judges and panches (local elder councils), as well as banning forcible possession of others' land or of inhabited houses to be demolished. There were special courts for Muslims which ruled in accordance to Muslim law in personal matters, and common courts preceded over by judicial officers which administered justice under the customary law of the districts and socio-ethnic groups, and were open to all who wanted to be governed by customary religious law, whether Hindu, Sikh, or Muslim.



In the long run, it witnessed the British take-over, and ended with the Koh i noor diamond going off the the Crown Jewels. This happened to result in Nepal's ongoing independence. Sikhs and Buddhists are friends.


Once the British are in, there is a continuous re-shuffling about representation and how politics works:



The Punjab, a province which had a Muslim communal majority that could be held in check when Hindus and Sikhs worked in combination, tested the limits of the three communities and of the two kinds of politics in the Indian independence movement — the limits of the effectiveness of electoral agreements and the limits of the commitment to non-violent protest.

A broad coalition met in 1928, under the chairmanship of Pandit Motilal Nehru, as the All-Parties Conference and recommended that India should become a dominion having a strong central government and a unitary electorate, with minority rights protected by reservation of seats in all legislative bodies except for those of the Punjab and Bengal. In the same year an All-Parties Muslim Conference met under the chairmanship of the Aga Khan and resolved that India should become a federation of semi-autonomous states, reconstituted into a framework designed to safeguard Muslim communal interests. These conferences, along with the Simon Commission, also fueled a debate within the Sikh community about whether to cooperate with the official inquiry and whether to support the continuation of separate, communal electorates.



What a mess!

I am not aware of a national Constitution being anything much other than a forced compromise.

The American one was knocked together hastily; the Indian was a long, drawn-out process of thirty years or more, with the Muslim presence frequently being a point of contention. Both happen to be about independence from Britain.

It is difficult to call anything "Sikh separatism" unless, I suppose, you prefer Jihad. They have just been trying to shake off ridiculous oppression the whole time! They did not really "begin a separatist movement" in the twentieth century, this does not emerge from the Anglosphere or Constitutional politics at all. It may look that way, when those lenses are forced over it. But these are fundamental issues prior to "why should we make a country in the first place".

It does not fit Arya Samaj or Greater India either. That one would turn the tables and say, well, Pakistan (and other places) are actually part of India.

The modern, statist country is a legal compromise over these basic cultural struggles. Not something for the British (or anyone else) to go "here is your approved answer".

I'm not taking sides about who killed who recently, or whose business it is whether Punjab secedes or not.

Just saying this did not suddenly pop up as a result of labels and name-calling. It is in fact very serious and difficult. Canada is among the least fit polities to have any say about such things.

India at least superficially resembles Russia, a type of post-empire having a variety of ethnicities who do not always agree, but, do know they have been invaded from the west multiple times, usually with disastrous results.

It has re-surfaced since:


In the 1990s, the insurgency petered out, and the movement failed to reach its objective for multiple reasons including a heavy police crackdown on separatists, factional infighting, and disillusionment from the Sikh population.



There are "alternatives", such as autonomy rather than sovereignty, or whether there really is any such thing as "Sikh territory", but obviously this is an ongoing debate which was just temporarily silenced for a few years recently.

[shaberon]

Posted by shaberon (here)
It does not fit Arya Samaj or Greater India either. That one would turn the tables and say, well, Pakistan (and other places) are actually part of India.

The modern, statist country is a legal compromise over these basic cultural struggles.

Continuing with this, I just brushed across an essay from Arundhati Roy responding to an award. I won't copy the whole thing but it is worth checking out. Here are some familiar-sounding extracts about a place that would be a part of "multi-polarity", although, internally, it has one of the tightest concentrations of wealth and perhaps the world's wealthiest and most powerful individual--and why it has taken a massive backslide in the same time frame as the end of the Cold War, rise of Ukraine and PNAC, etc., until she is awarded for:

...the kind of essays that I write and have written for the past 25 years.

They have mapped, step by step, India’s descent (although some see it as an ascent) into first majoritarianism and then full-blown fascism. Yes, we continue to have elections, and for that reason, in order to secure a reliable constituency, the ruling Bhartiya Janata Party’s message of Hindu supremacism has relentlessly been disseminated to a population of 1.4 billion people.


It’s a great irony in some ways to receive a prize for 25 years of writing warning about the direction in which we were headed – that was not heeded, but instead often mocked and criticised by liberals and those who considered themselves “progressive” too.

It was the beginning of the US-dominated unipolar world in which capitalism was the uncontested victor. India realigned herself with the United States and opened her markets to corporate capital.

Privatisation and structural adjustment were the anthem of the free market.

Today it is unthinkable that any mainstream media house in India, all of whom live on corporate advertisements, would publish essays like these. In the last 20 years, the free market and fascism and the so-called free press, have waltzed together to bring India to a place where it can by no means be called a democracy.

Indian investigation agencies and most of the Indian media are in no position to investigate or publish these stories. When the foreign media does, its easy then, in the current atmosphere of pseudo hyper-nationalism, to portray it as an attack on Indian sovereignty.

What’s happening in India is not that loose variety of internet fascism. It’s the real thing. We have become Nazis. Not just our leaders, not just our TV channels and newspapers, but vast sections of our population too. Large numbers among the Indian Hindu population who live in the US and Europe and South Africa support the fascists politically as well as materially.

She mentions the past few months of violence in Manipur, again, an outcome of post-1949 unified government.

Historically, India was closer to Russia or the Soviets, and, in the 1990s, started getting "Americanized" like eastern Europe.

That does not grant us the authority to say anything about Sikhs or Meitei because they might be breaking laws or rejecting the Constitution. That would be for Modi or BJP to further the suppression with western assistance. Ms. Roy is strongly asking to vote otherwise in 2024.

If not, if Ukraine looks like a "big Israel", India is the next thing to a "big Ukraine".

I'm going to say she's not exaggerating, either. Probably at least half of the population, perhaps more than 700 million people, have latched on to this westernized pseudo-Hinduism and its corresponding laws that have provided perhaps the most dramatic wealth inequality to be found.

Usually, if a state or ethnicity is fighting to secede or throw something off, there is an understandable motive. Not really "I'd like to be independent today", or, "This helps me take over the world", or whatever silly accusation may splash over from the west when determining what government is "allowed" to be in one piece or not.

[9ideon]

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Posted by pounamuknight (here)
Looks like they've given up trying to sweet talk India into to the garden

Actually, I think it has to do with something which happened while Feckdeau was in India, as he is being bombarded by opposition in Canada and he needs to maintain a certain standing in order to rig the next elections (despite his shocking approval rating), he can't take the chance that story comes out in full. By blackening India with lies (as they all do these so called Western Leaders, no honour!) everything concerning that issue on his G-20 trip now holds no power anymore with the sheeple masses.

Here we go, they're running Feckdeau as a victim, guess how this works through on the Public, emotional, creating more (emotional) support for that sockpuppet.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=4m4iCSN3hA0

India should declare war, goto the Chinese sea and sink any Canadian ship it can find, since it's not on Nato soil, no article 5 (being funny here, but in essence it's factual) activation.

It becomes obvious fluctuation game is being played, the scales are not in Feckdeau's negative yet, like with Biden, but he's going towards the abyss, I wonder who's gonna step in bringing the lies they love so well.

What ever happened to the Canadian People, unbelievable they keep taking this up the ... . And no, a percentage protesting a govt who doesn't give a toss, is not, and will never change anything.

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[Bill Ryan]

In The Duran's video update for today, Alexander Mercouris summarizes Putin's extremely important speech at the Valdai Conference.

When listening to this, I confess I had the very strong thought: This is the tipping point. From here on out, the US hegemony is over. What Putin presented was huge and historical. Countries in the global south will have been metaphorically dancing in the streets.

Putin at Valdai: The Civilizational World Order is here to stay

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=FVoxFc25Q0k

[Ewan]

Full text of Putin's speech and answers at Valdai Discussion Club.


(note: I have not verified this is accurate by comparing other reports - I assume it is).

A mere fraction of the speech below....

KEYNOTE SPEECH

Vladimir Putin: Thank you very much.

Dear participants of the plenary session! Ladies and Gentlemen! Friends!

I got a little acquainted with the discussions that took place here in the previous days - very interesting and informative. I hope you did not regret that you came to Russia and communicate with each other.

Good to see you all.

On the platform of the Valdai Club, we have talked more than once about those shifts - serious, big shifts that have already taken place and are taking place in the world, about the risks that are associated with the degradation of world institutions, with the erosion of the principles of collective security, with the substitution of international law for the so-called rules - I wanted to say, it’s clear who invented it, but, perhaps, this is also inaccurate - it’s generally not clear who invented it, what these rules are based on, what is inside these rules.

Apparently, there is only an attempt to approve one rule, so that those in power - now they are talking about power, I'm talking about global power - have the opportunity to live without any rules at all and they are allowed to do everything, everything would get away with whatever they do . Here, in fact, are these very rules, which, as the people say, they constantly talk about to us, that is, they constantly talk about it.

The value of the Valdai discussions lies in the fact that a variety of assessments and forecasts are heard here. How true they were, life itself shows, the most strict and objective examiner is life. Here it shows how correct our preliminary discussions were in previous years.

Alas, events are still developing according to a negative scenario, which we spoke about more than once or twice during previous meetings. Moreover, these events have developed into a large-scale, systemic crisis, and not only in the military-political, but also in the economic and humanitarian spheres.

The so-called West - conditionally, of course, there is no unity there - it is clear that this is a very complex conglomerate, nevertheless, let's say that this West has taken a number of steps to escalate in recent years and especially in recent months. As a matter of fact, they always play to exacerbate, there is nothing new here either. This is the incitement of war in Ukraine, these are provocations around Taiwan, the destabilization of the world food and energy markets. The latter, of course, was not done on purpose, there is no doubt about it, but due to a number of systemic errors of precisely those Western authorities that I have already mentioned. And as we see now, plus to this is the destruction of pan-European gas pipelines. This is generally a transcendent thing, but nevertheless we are witnessing these sad events.

[Vicus]

I try very hard not to vomit on my cafe coup reading this!

US Southern Command Attacks Anti-hegemonic Media Outlets



On October 11, the commander of the U.S. Southern Command, General Laura Richardson, regretted the presence of Sputnik, RT and teleSUR in the information battle.

At an event organized by the Foundation for Defense of Democracies (FDD) , Richardson decried that "In Latin America we have over 31 million followers with Sputnik Mundo, Russia Today Español and teleSUR."

Richardson was in conflict over the dominance of information in the region. The U.S. Commander told FDD Vice President for Communications Elizabeth Robbins that these media outlets "spread disinformation, which undermines democracies throughout the hemisphere."

The media she mentioned, and in particular teleSUR, have great global and regional recognition for being the voice of a citizenry increasingly interested in its own history that understands the contexts of reality. They are opposite objectives to the information of the aforementioned command.

The U.S. Commander's remarks came as part of a conversation focused on the U.S. response to China's growing involvement in Latin America and the Caribbean.

GEN Laura J. Richardson is the Commander of U.S. Southern Command, which is one of six Pentagon geographic commands that operate contingency plans in Central and South America and the Caribbean.

Venezuelan Foreign Minister Yvan Gil rejected the statement of the head of the Southern Command, which he considered attempts "to intimidate the free information of the people. It is simply unacceptable," he said through his account on the social network X.

No attempt to discredit teleSUR will take it away from the path and commitment to the construction of a region that has become a great homeland, by creating a world of its own with a privileged space for the SOUTH. This newborn world is plural, with a symphony of voices. We work in it, without rest or pause.

https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/...1013-0014.html

Vicus comment:

I never voted in my life, but now am 22 October elections in Argentina I will do it for only one reason:
Stay with the BRICS ! take away those parasitic entities from Latinoamerica!

[Bill Ryan]

An excellent piece on The Moon of Alabama, a little longer than usual but well worth reading in full.

• https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/1...olar.html#more

The Penny Drops - The World is Multi-Polar

In 2007, during his famous speech in Munich, the Russian President Vladimir Putin pointed to the inevitable rise of a multipolar world.

He started out by defining the opposite state:

However, what is a unipolar world? However one might embellish this term, at the end of the day it refers to one type of situation, namely one centre of authority, one centre of force, one centre of decision-making. It is world in which there is one master, one sovereign. And at the end of the day this is pernicious not only for all those within this system, but also for the sovereign itself because it destroys itself from within.

The unilateral tendencies of the U.S. and the West in general were described as dead ends:

[W]hat is happening in today’s world – and we just started to discuss this – is a tentative to introduce precisely this concept into international affairs, the concept of a unipolar world. And with which results?
Unilateral and frequently illegitimate actions have not resolved any problems. Moreover, they have caused new human tragedies and created new centres of tension.
...
We are seeing a greater and greater disdain for the basic principles of international law. And independent legal norms are, as a matter of fact, coming increasingly closer to one state’s legal system. One state and, of course, first and foremost the United States, has overstepped its national borders in every way. This is visible in the economic, political, cultural and educational policies it imposes on other nations. Well, who likes this? Who is happy about this?

He pointed to the inevitable changes in the world that were arising to counter this trend:

The combined GDP measured in purchasing power parity of countries such as India and China is already greater than that of the United States. And a similar calculation with the GDP of the BRIC countries – Brazil, Russia, India and China – surpasses the cumulative GDP of the EU. And according to experts this gap will only increase in the future. There is no reason to doubt that the economic potential of the new centres of global economic growth will inevitably be converted into political influence and will strengthen multipolarity.

There it is, multipolarity, the 'bad word' that the U.S. did not dare to take serious. Putin was laughed at, and then condemned, for making those very clear predictions.

But today multipolarity has risen.

Today we live in multilateral world. We see Russia, China and many smaller countries united in their will to preserve their rights and security. The cold-war is gone. The somewhat unilateral decades which had followed it are now over. We are in need a new world order.

In the U.S. that penny has finally started to drop.

It has not yet reached the ground. We do not know on which side it will land.

Two days ago U.S. President Joe Biden spoke at a campaign even. Among lots of the usual blah-blah this paragraph stood out:

We were in a post-war period for 50 years where it worked pretty damn well, but that’s sort of run out of steam. Sort of run out of steam. It needs a new — a new world order in a sense, like that was a world order.

There it is - one can see the penny, slipping out of his hand and falling down.

The time for the U.S. to preserve some of its influence in the rising new world order is short:

Look, we’re at an inflection point in history — literally an inflection point in history, and that is that decisions we make in the next four or five years are going to determine what the next four or five decades look like. And that’s — that’s a fact.

The Ukrainian news site Strana, which was first to point to Biden's acknowledgement of global change, describes the implications of that thought (machine translation):

It should be noted that the "damn good" post-war 50-year peace that Biden spoke about arose as a result of the most brutal war in the history of mankind. It also appeared due to the agreements of the USSR and the United States, which essentially divided the spheres of influence in Europe. If we proceed from this historical context, then Biden, it turns out, offers either to win a military victory over the Russian Federation and China, with which the United States is currently at enmity, or to negotiate with them and arrange a "new Yalta" with the division of spheres of influence.

On which side will the penny land? The side of a new global war? Or on the side of new negotiations?

Yalta Conference


bigger

We do not know.

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Putin had predicted that the pursuit of unilateral power would automatically lead to the end its pursuer. As Biden acknowledges, the U.S., in its delusion, is ripping itself apart.

Prior to the campaign event Biden had given a public speech from the White House.

Adam Tooze reflects on it:

Biden:

American leadership is what holds the world together.

The President wasn’t just improvising. He has not done a lot of speeches from the Oval Office. A speech-writing team crafted that extraordinary line.
It reflects deeply held views on the part of Washington. Back in February 2021, the newly appointed Secretary of State Antony Blinken gave several speeches and interviews in which he repeated the line:

The world doesn’t organize itself. When we’re not engaged, when we don’t lead, then one of two things happens: either some other country tries to take our place, but probably not in a way that advances our interests and values, or no one does, and then you get chaos.

This idea, that there is a “place” in the world, which is that of “America as the organizer”, and that without America occupying that place and doing its job, the world will fall apart, or some other power will take America’s place as the organizer, is deep-seated in US policy circle.
As a metaphysical proposition it is silly and self-deluding. It is bizarre to imagine that the world needs America to “hold it together”. America itself is hardly in one piece.

He describes the negative global consequences of delusional U.S. thinking to then muse about the outcome:

What is the impact of a dysfunctional US political system, where the more reasonable wing of the ruling elite cling to ideas about America’s role that are systematically self-deluding. You could say that hypocrisy is normal. It is the besetting sin of liberalism. But in light of the scale of looming global problems and the shift in the balance of power that has already taken place, let alone that which may still to come, how long can this tension be maintained and what will be the price?

He seems to ask if the now falling penny will ever hit the ground:

The only thing that seems for sure is that we should avoid falling into the trap of what I’ve called fin-fiction or fin-fi, which assumes that because these tension seem unbearable they must therefore resolve in some logical way, for instance in the speculation over the end of dollar hegemony, or what appears be the Biden fantasy of a return to the normality of American leadership.
I am skeptical even of invoking terms like “interregnum”, signifying a temporary hiatus between orders of power.
What gives us confidence that our current situation is temporary and that some new order, like the old, will emerge?
Is that not another version of the kind of thinking that says the world “needs organizing” by a power sitting at the head of the table - in “America’s place”?

That question, to me, seems to miss what multilateralism really means. It does not mean unilateralism with a different country in the lead. It means a somewhat democratic UN system, with an expanded Security Council that includes the large population countries of each continent.

It means to follow international law.

Will the U.S. come back into that system? Or does it need a global war to decide the outcome?

[shaberon]

Moon of Alabama sounds pretty straightforward there.


The gears have already shifted. India, one of the largest private buyers of gold and diamonds, has wound up extremely Russian in terms of overall trade:

Trade between Russia and India more than doubled from January-August 2023 compared to the same period in the previous year, reaching $43.8 billion, according to data from the Indian Commerce Ministry.

This is 20% more than the figure recorded for the whole of 2022, Sputnik estimates.

Trade deficit between the two countries also more than doubled to $38.6 billion. The South Asian nation imported $41.2 billion worth of Russian goods in the first eight months of this year, versus $17.1 billion seen a year ago, whereas exports grew only to $2.5 billion.

Russia is India’s fourth-largest trade partner after the United States, China and the United Arab Emirates, which all saw their trade with India decrease from January-August of this year compared to the same period in 2022. US trade with India was down by 10% to $80.8 billion, China’s by 8% to $75.3 billion, and the UAE’s by 9% to $51.2 billion.

So, yes, India is a wobbly but significant force in this process, despite the fact that it has huge issues with *internal* multi-polarity.

Fairly close to the MoA article is that the American re-branded demands have No Chance:

At a recent event for his 2024 US presidential election campaign, US President Joe Biden invoked the language of a “new world order,” saying Washington has the ability in the next few years to ensure that it will remain the dominant global power for the next several decades.

“We’re at an inflection point in history, and that is that decisions we make in the next four or five years are going to determine what the next four or five decades look like,” Biden said. “If we do what I know we can do, we can change history.”

“I think we have an opportunity to do things, if we’re bold enough and have enough confidence in ourselves, to unite the world in ways that it never has been,” he continued. “We were in a post-war period for 50 years where it worked pretty damn well, but that’s sort of run out of steam. It needs a new world order in a sense, like that was a world order.”

It’s not the first time Biden has used the phrase in recent years. After the US attempted to turn Russia into a pariah state with punishing sanctions and other pressures in early 2022, Biden gloated about a “ liberal world order” in the world, saying, “There’s going to be a new world order out there, and we’ve got to lead it.”

Again I would say it is dangerous language to speak of things like "the current world crisis" or "inflection point in history" since these are everyday occurrences.

What is "new" is no longer the monolithic U. S. S. R. as enemy, but, according to the same American lawyer we quoted the other day, it is this Russo-friendly multi-polar trade agreement:

Dan Kovalik, former adjunct professor of law at the University of Pittsburgh and the author of "No More War: How the West Violates International Law by Using 'Humanitarian' Intervention to Advance Economic and Strategic Interests," told Sputnik on Monday that much of US foreign policy since the end of the Cold War in the late 1980s has been directed at demonstrating its contempt for institutions of international law and cooperation, most especially the United Nations, since the Soviet Union no longer existed as a superpower counterweight to American ambitions.

“Essentially, international law and the international law system has been systematically dismantled since the so-called ‘New World Order’ - which is now the ‘old world order’, if that makes sense. And so now I think the world wants to try to put things back in place,” Kovalik said.

“For Biden, the new rules order that he's contemplating is basically, the US will make up the rules as it goes along, everyone else will have to go along. So that's not really a rule of law, that's more the rule of the mighty. The rest of the world, I think, or most of the rest of the world wants to go back to the UN charter and have a real law-based system instead of a ‘US rules based system’, which is what Biden is really talking about.”

Well, we see that right now with the Israeli-Palestine conflict, that the US is now the only country to veto at least three resolutions attempting to end the war there, to protect civilians. And so the US wants to be able to basically go its own way in the world without any brakes on it. I think the whole goal is for the US to prioritize itself over everyone else.

Kovalik said the US doesn’t have the political or diplomatic influence to be able to actually bring such an order into existence any longer, especially considering its involvement in both the conflict in Ukraine and the one in the Middle East, where Israel and Hamas are locked in a war that threatens to draw in nearby powers.

“It certainly has military might - and that's pretty much all it has. But I don't think that's enough to be able to get countries to go along with this New World Order, so-called. And I think even countries in Europe won't go along with it because they now feel that they were tricked into supporting the Ukraine conflict to their own detriment. I don't think they're going to get many takers here.”

“Given the emergence of the multipolar world, I think, the US ultimately is going to have to find a way to comply more with the wishes of other countries. It's not going to have the same ability to dictate to the world. I think those days are over.”

[Vicus]

Sound like a rant but isn't, just FACTS!

US world dominance? in the real world is just an "it was upon a time"...Morally US is broken intern(stole his elections) and world wide...
They don't respect any international law, its seen as a rogue/berserk stats.

Common sense people enough only 2 facts.

1) ditching dollars world wide, don't matter what frenzy rhythm the "dollar making machine print" the Est and South don't
want it anymore...

2) Military is now in the first place NO more, watch this:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1583008

World peace depends from this entity? Well, the North hemisphere will be fry...

Prove me wrong

[Ernie Nemeth]

We deserve what is coming, yes.

But we could still turn it around.

Remember, the countries offering a new dollar replacement are all Marxist Communist countries.
They will ruin that currency and play games like you've never seen before.

The Communist motto is: To each according to their needs, to some more than they need.

[pounamuknight]

Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
the countries offering a new dollar replacement are all Marxist Communist countries

The only country within BRICS that's practicing Marxist Communism is China. But even that's debatable as its really a Maoist Communist system based on classic Marxist-Leninism, yet its adapted and evolved with/to China's material & environment conditions

I mean, Marx would probably have a seizure if he walked thru Shanghai's Bund shopping district with all the Cartier, Prada, Rolex stores

Professor Richard Wolff goes into China's version of communism while also laying out some historical differences & context. Its only a few minutes long

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=5mjVP09XqbM

Also, I think Elon Musk summed it up pretty well why these countries are developing an alternative financial system

Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
But we could still turn it around

Absolutely And drop the Full-Spectrum Dominance/Clash of Civilizations borg-brain

[Ernie Nemeth]

Brazil - far left government
Russia - communist
India - who knows, maybe arguably democratic
China - communist

These are the major players. The rest fall in line.