The Multipolar World Order (yes, it's coming)

[All is one]

Just to clarify: My post is not about a multipolar world, but about a multi system world.
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1541659

I know it has a similar ring to it, but it’s a very different idea. I guess it was added to the multipolar thread because it also suggests a different societal structure, directed towards more personal freedom, instead of the aspired one world order.

And yes; any major change towards a new world balance and harmonious structure in this world will unfortunately only happen after lots of friction. This is because everyone has a different idea of what the best organization on a small scale and on a global level is.

But I think if the focus is on a positie outcome for all the people and all sides involved, that terrible transition period, might just be worth the hassle.

Of course it seems like an utopian idea, but it's as possible as the dystopian plans of the elite. The only difference is that we (sub)consciously have more belief in the dystopian ideas and therefor all keep contributing to the realization of that dystopian paradigm.
The most important thing that is needed for any plans and visions to become possible is belief and effort. That’s also why all new plans and directions are first discredited, ridiculed and people are constantly demoralized as much as possible to believe in anything better than the dystopian future being rolled out.

CURRENT SYSTEM/METHOD: DEMORALIZE THE PEOPLE AND FEED THEM THE DYSTOPIAN IDEAS

IDEAL SYSTEM: PRESENT BETTER IDEAS - ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO BELIEVE IN AND WORK ON ONE OR MORE BETTER SYSTEM(S)

The intention of having a multi system world would be to have unity whilst also giving people more chance to choose their way of living, by having multiple systems run at the same time in the same country & regardless of the place one lives.
In this way people can keep living where they live right now, or move if they want to, but are also able to choose te system they want to be a part of. (for example follow the mainstream medical treatments or not)

I know people don’t just get along and form harmonious functioning groups, that’s why I think the only way for there to be harmony is if the alternative way/ways of living gets a stronger organization & also gets recognition and an official place in society, next to the mainstream lifestyle.

I think physically separating different lifestyle is possible on a small scale, but not on a large scale and not wanted/possible for many people. Hence the idea of having different societal systems run regardless of the place one lives …

Thus I think having multiple societal systems to choose from for humanity to choose it’s own road into the future might just have the most chances on succeeding in bringing together the possibility of more personal freedom; independence etc. whilst also keeping things harmonious.

Oh and different systems also means that the power will not be as corruptible as in the one world order system.

[Vicus]

[shaberon]

Posted by Mashika (here)
The western central bank will mean nothing once 80 percent of the world does business without it, then it will be just a "once were" thing and eventually it will fade out and whatever countries refused to join the new system will have to apply or die as well


That's what the west can't handle right now, because it's the same old "WE and then you" ideology that doesn't work anymore

This sums up almost everything we are seeing these days.

It is material, but, it must also be deeply psychological concerning this "ideology".

It is a has-been, or Paper Tiger...

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Vicus (here)

A very apt quote from Edward Gibbon's classic, 6-volume The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, published in 1821:

The Roman government appeared every day less formidable to its enemies, more odious and oppressive to its subjects.

[alh02]

The grand chessboard, multi-polar world order.

Who’s who in the zoo?

Connecting the dots…

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=x585c8Ldou8

[Bruce G Charlton]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Vicus (here)

A very apt quote from Edward Gibbon's classic, 6-volume The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, published in 1821:

The Roman government appeared every day less formidable to its enemies, more odious and oppressive to its subjects.

I always like to point out that, as an admirer of Byzantium - at the time Rome collapsed - the Empire had had its capital in Constantinople for a century; and the Eastern Roman Empire lasted (albeit dwindling in size after the first couple of hundred years) for another *1000 years* approximately.

To me, this extraordinarily-prolonged survival suggests that Gibbons's diagnoses of the cause of collapse (eg. Christian conversion) were wrong - or, at least, simplistic.

From the POV of England, the collapse of the Western Empire was indeed a disaster for instance, rapidly halving the standard of living (according to one book I read - which decline probably meant halving the population). Yet links with Constantinople long remained. As late as aftermath of the Norman Conquest, many thousands of Anglo Saxons (especially nobles) left England and found their way to Constantinople; where they became a bodyguard for the Emperor, and were given their own English quarter of the city which survived for many generations.

[Bill Ryan]

https://t.me/EurasianNew/34883

[Vicus]

"From the POV of England, the collapse of the Western Empire was indeed a disaster for instance, rapidly halving the standard of living (according to one book I read - which decline probably meant halving the population). Yet links with Constantinople long remained. As late as aftermath of the Norman Conquest, many thousands of Anglo Saxons (especially nobles) left England and found their way to Constantinople; where they became a bodyguard for the Emperor, and were given their own English quarter of the city which survived for many generations."

from:https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1544014

Well, what have we learned from the Anglo/Saxon tribes? after furious résistance against Rome advance bringing it to stop...
Like the picts in north England? why don't killed already the Emperator when they got the chance? hummm...
all the battles and martyr/heroes death...for what? to spring in bed with romans at the first chance? and were given their own
quarter? yeah, every loyal dog get his quarter too...the strategy here is learn from Master...and then try their own "Empire"

They learned so well that today make same errors and now is their time... to fall...

[Bill Ryan]

Slightly longer than usual (35 minutes), but here's Alexander Mercouris talking about the multipolar world order, signaled now by China's top diplomat Wang Yi in his recent trip to Moscow and Europe.

China and Russia align to challenge collective west

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=5lBSOAnQrhE

[shaberon]

Posted by Bruce G Charlton (here)
I always like to point out that, as an admirer of Byzantium - at the time Rome collapsed - the Empire had had its capital in Constantinople for a century; and the Eastern Roman Empire lasted (albeit dwindling in size after the first couple of hundred years) for another *1000 years* approximately.

Yes, exactly, for the most part this is what we are still dealing with. The former Byzantium is now Moscow.

From this view, things look much different. Being once the educated culture to the extent of the Mediterranean, the west basically sanitized it. One finds attempts at re-entry, such as the Medici Renaissance, which in essence was thwarted and replaced by another. Probably the real Rosicrucians, also replaced by others wearing the name. In the long run, most of the former Roman areas represent a total boot of the Byzantine.

Even comparing the cities, Byzantium was a capital of culture and trade ever since ca. 600 B. C. E., whereas Rome was never nothing much besides a wolf.

This is probably the single most powerful circumstance behind the whole thing.

Almost exactly like the curtain/Wizard of Oz/money, but bigger.

[Tintin]

Certainly related to, but necessarily name-dropping "multipolar" a nicely made succinct piece here: "The Village at the Edge of World War III.".

WW3 is as much a spiritual and moral conflict both within and outwith the individual as it is a direct confrontation with arms, against corporatists who are totalitarian in nature. We may need to reappraise how we use the term "World War III" and the contexts in which we apply it perhaps outside the limited scope of armed conflict.

This spiritual war has been going on for aeons and may reach its apotheosis soon.

This 10 minute film deals with one of many of these battles in this endless war.

It was sourced from here:
URL - lbry://@FreedomTirade#f/AT-THE-EDGE#f

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The Village at the Edge of World War 3 - a trailer for 'PRECIOUS WATER DECEPTIONS'

Description provided:

The "clean green tech" energy transition is a faux panacea, causing more suffering in Africa than all previous colonial exploitation. Many people in South Africa
have no water and electricity supplies because the "clean tech' fourth industrial revolution is consuming everything in its wake. The WEF "clean tech' agenda is
nothing less than looting on the road to total control of the planet and total loss of sovereignty for all..... or is it? Will countries like South Africa stand up
to the looters once and for all, or will they capitulate?

[David Trd1]

Posted by alh02 (here)
The grand chessboard, multi-polar world order.

Who’s who in the zoo?

Connecting the dots…

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=x585c8Ldou8

This is great - Bump

[alh02]

Posted by David Trd1 (here)
This is great - Bump

If you liked that, you’ll like this too.

Lays it all out beautifully 👌🏼

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Z_a90fhHR_4

[Miller]

Posted by Tintin (here)
Certainly related to, but necessarily name-dropping "multipolar" a nicely made succinct piece here: "The Village at the Edge of World War III.".

WW3 is as much a spiritual and moral conflict both within and outwith the individual as it is a direct confrontation with arms, against corporatists who are totalitarian in nature. We may need to reappraise how we use the term "World War III" and the contexts in which we apply it perhaps outside the limited scope of armed conflict.

This spiritual war has been going on for aeons and may reach its apotheosis soon.

The "clean green tech" energy transition is a faux panacea, causing more suffering in Africa than all previous colonial exploitation. Many people in South Africa
have no water and electricity supplies because the "clean tech' fourth industrial revolution is consuming everything in its wake. The WEF "clean tech' agenda is
nothing less than looting on the road to total control of the planet and total loss of sovereignty for all..... or is it? Will countries like South Africa stand up
to the looters once and for all, or will they capitulate?

Your post and video made me feel ashamed as an onlooker, Tintin, as our old, colonial ways, are still very much apparent. Here's a complementary video, a short of a longer Joe Rogan interview with Siddharth Kara about the Cobalt Mining and Lithium Battery:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=nMafI9SdGyo

As a PS: South Africa is paying Tottenham Hotspur FC R1Billion
South Africa’s tourism agency gave preliminary approval to a sponsorship deal with English football club Tottenham Hotspur and government officials are being consulted on whether it should be finalized.

Discussions were ongoing when details were prematurely leaked to the media, according to Themba Khumalo, South African Tourism’s acting chief executive officer. He declined to comment on the details or value of the deal, which the Daily Maverick news website said could be worth about R1 billion.

Tourism generates about 3% of South Africa’s gross domestic product, down from 6.4% before the Covid-19 pandemic, and the government aims to grow the industry to shore up an economy that’s being battered by record power cuts.

The tourism agency aims to tap the English team’s global fan base to help meet a target of more than treble visitor numbers to 21 million visitors by 2030.

[Tintin]

Posted by Miller (here)

Posted by Tintin (here)
Certainly related to, but necessarily name-dropping "multipolar" a nicely made succinct piece here: "The Village at the Edge of World War III.".

WW3 is as much a spiritual and moral conflict both within and outwith the individual as it is a direct confrontation with arms, against corporatists who are totalitarian in nature. We may need to reappraise how we use the term "World War III" and the contexts in which we apply it perhaps outside the limited scope of armed conflict.

This spiritual war has been going on for aeons and may reach its apotheosis soon.

The "clean green tech" energy transition is a faux panacea, causing more suffering in Africa than all previous colonial exploitation. Many people in South Africa
have no water and electricity supplies because the "clean tech' fourth industrial revolution is consuming everything in its wake. The WEF "clean tech' agenda is
nothing less than looting on the road to total control of the planet and total loss of sovereignty for all..... or is it? Will countries like South Africa stand up
to the looters once and for all, or will they capitulate?

Your post and video made me feel ashamed as an onlooker, Tintin, as our old, colonial ways, are still very much apparent. Here's a complementary video, a short of a longer Joe Rogan interview with Siddharth Kara about the Cobalt Mining and Lithium Battery:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=nMafI9SdGyo

As a PS: South Africa is paying Tottenham Hotspur FC R1Billion
South Africa’s tourism agency gave preliminary approval to a sponsorship deal with English football club Tottenham Hotspur and government officials are being consulted on whether it should be finalized.

Discussions were ongoing when details were prematurely leaked to the media, according to Themba Khumalo, South African Tourism’s acting chief executive officer. He declined to comment on the details or value of the deal, which the Daily Maverick news website said could be worth about R1 billion.

Tourism generates about 3% of South Africa’s gross domestic product, down from 6.4% before the Covid-19 pandemic, and the government aims to grow the industry to shore up an economy that’s being battered by record power cuts.

The tourism agency aims to tap the English team’s global fan base to help meet a target of more than treble visitor numbers to 21 million visitors by 2030.

We knew it was bad Miller, but, gads, that's the pits - no joke there by the way, not even remotely a joke.

Thanks for sharing; we do need to keep being reminded of this. Seeing the reality there, stark naked reality really ought to make consumers really pause and perhaps trigger a 'No' button next time they're tempted to 'upgrade', 'sustain' etc.

[Miller]

It gets worse Tintin:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=hX7XaKvyVWs

Human Rights Violations in DRC Mines
Cobalt mining in the DRC is rife with human rights abuses, such as the use of child labor. According to Amnesty International, an estimated 40,000 children are employed in artisanal mining in the DRC. A lack of proper safety precautions is also common practice and accidents frequently occur.
6 Nov 2021
https://borgenproject.org/cobalt-mining-in-the-drc/

[Miller]

I have to put a caveat in here:
In the video above I was quite shocked at Elon Musk's attitude and then when I explored You Tube further noticed the video was spliced together by a channel called Fire Cuts and wasn't a bona fide interview between Joe Rogan and Elon Musk. The other videos on this channel with Elon Musk have been spliced together also. I don't know what the term for this is, but if you splice two cars together it's called a "ringer". I could of course delete it but think it still serves a purpose, hence this warning. Nevertheless, apologies to all.

[shaberon]

Posted by Miller (here)
Cobalt mining in the DRC is rife with human rights abuses, such as the use of child labor. According to Amnesty International, an estimated 40,000 children are employed in artisanal mining in the DRC. A lack of proper safety precautions is also common practice and accidents frequently occur.
6 Nov 2021
https://borgenproject.org/cobalt-mining-in-the-drc/

So, to recap, there is an approximately 400 year old conflict set by the country of Belgium.

Some of the fallout from the competition includes the Boer War, the first discernable use of propaganda for the public to glibly support a Capitalists' war.

There was an old trail of Blood Diamonds, whose cutting enriched the cities of Antwerp and Amsterdam. Cobalt is like am amplified modern version, in fact this story is as old as its binge demand for electronics in the 1990s.

Agriculture and other raw materials are exploited similarly.

Vast tracts of land managed by the World Wildlife Fund are said to be exchange points and staging grounds for the Crown's black ops.

No, this kind of rechargeable battery is not particularly seductive as the way of the future. What if through some horrible accident all that battery paste goes up your nose. What ever will you do. How can we make and use all of it without a steady stream of plastic from petroleum. Nothing is particularly viable here.


At least we can say the French military has mostly taken their hands off Uranium.

DRC is really big and complicated. How do you do it when the foreseeable economic future of the whole world can only exacerbate the situation?

[Vicus]

Mali's PM credits Russia for turning the tide in its fight against terrorism and being a reliable partner - 'Russia does not double-deal'

RT
Tue, 28 Feb 2023

Russia has helped to turn the tide in Mali's fight against terrorism and has proven that it does not have ulterior motives in its involvement, the African nation's acting prime minister has said.

"The terror has moved to the other camp. Terrorists no longer instill fear in Malians. On the contrary, the Malian Army scares the terrorists," Choguel Kokalla Maiga told RIA Novosti.

He credited Russian military assistance for this change in the interview published on Tuesday, and praised Moscow's approach in dealing with his government. Russia "is a reliable partner and does not double-deal," he said.

Its assistance is not limited to military hardware, Maiga stated. Russian supplies of food, fertilizers and energy to Mali are growing, and the two governments are working on boosting trade further. Moscow has also offered a 20% discount on market price for some key products, he added.

"We don't want to be hostage to other states, who would decide whether or not to deliver fuel to our nation and whether or not there would be food on Malians' tables," he said.

The prime minister also rebuked the EU for its attitude towards his country, reiterating his criticism of European Council President Charles Michel. In an interview with the French media earlier this month, Michel accused Mali's transitional authorities of breaking with "traditional partners, and particularly with European partners," and claimed that "the consequence is a state that is collapsing." Bamako dismissed the remarks as part of a "disinformation campaign."

Maiga noted that politicians in Europe tended to make "really laughable statements to the media," and that his government was not limited in terms of foreign partnerships.

"Those who want to cooperate with Mali should take a note from Russia and respect our principles," he suggested.

He also reiterated an assessment by his foreign minister that the EU "was to be blamed for the destruction of Libya, which was the major cause of the escalation of terrorism in Africa," particularly in the region of Sahel.

France and the UK were the primary drivers behind NATO's 2011 bombing campaign, which ousted Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi. Militias and arms smugglers looted the national military's weapons depots amid the conflict. Libya remains fractured more than a decade later.

https://www.sott.net/article/477823-...ot-double-deal

[shaberon]

Posted by Miller (here)
Human Rights Violations in DRC Mines

I responded to this with some established historical information, and, it appears I am direly in need of an update:


PARIS, March 1. /TASS/. A huge rally in support of Russia’s policy and President Vladimir Putin took place on Wednesday in the capital of the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC), where young Congolese took to the streets carrying Russian flags and speaking up for cooperation with Moscow, AFP reported from Kinshasa.

"Putin, come to help us! We need reliable partners like Russia!" said the organizer of the rally, Bruno Mimbenga.

Simultaneously, the demonstrators, who gathered outside France’s embassy to the DRC, protested against French President Emmanuel Macron’s upcoming visit. The protest was held under the slogans ‘Macron is a murderer,’ ‘Macron is the godfather of DRC balkanization,’ ‘Congolese say no to France’s policy.’

The protesters pointed out that they consider France a key ally of Rwanda in confrontation with the DRC. Kinshasa accuses Kigali of supporting insurgents on Congolese territory.

Later this week, Macron is scheduled to arrive in Kinshasa as part of his African tour aiming to mend rapidly deteriorating relations with African nations.



Well, this just doesn't go that great after Libya. How do you fix that in French? Remember, you had four centuries to figure out how to not be a divide-and-conquer supremacist bigot, lesson not learned yet. So. You just get replaced by Russia, which, for a while at least, you had enough sense to accept as a companion. What happened to that? Please don't say anything. Do whatever you want, but please don't say anything. It would be inappropriate.