This thread is dedicated to the knowledge of God, to what the mystical intuition of the ancient sages revealed to them about it. But it is also open to your own contributions. Mystical intuition is within everyone's reach because in each and every one there is a spark of God. But first of all, allow me to express my own intuition about God...
To my intuition, it is evident that what in this world best evokes the existence of God are children, the more so when they are smaller. Their innocence, their sweetness, their kindness, their purity, their lack of prejudice... everything about them unconsciously brings me back to God. I feel this in such a clear way that I cannot help but contribute to alleviating their suffering through regular donations to NGOs that help children such as UNICEF or SAVE THE CHILDREN. I urge everyone to do the same so that, together, we can put an end once and for all to this shameful scourge that is the avoidable suffering of children.
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I have to disagree with you on this, because those institutions are precisely part of the problem regarding the "saving children", I don't believe they are saving anyone from the trafficking and enslavement, most likely they are a front for the the real criminals in these horrendous activities but on the inside these organizations are at the core of the problem, they manage and provide for the monsters who benefit from this aberrant behavior.
THE ANCIENT INTUITION OF THE MULTIPLICITY IMPLICIT IN GOD
According to the esoteric notion, Multiplicity and Unity, far from being incompatible, co–exist harmoniously in God. Valentine and other Gnostic masters spoke of the Eones or “Eternities” that, yoked in the Syzygyas or spiritual Couples, integrate the divine Pleroma. Another example is Gregory of Niza, in the fourth century. According to this Father of the Church, although God has been and always will be One, before the Fall this One was inhabited by multiple spiritual and androgynous Men (Divine Men, then). Such Men integrated a Whole or a Pleroma: the Anthropines Pleroma, the “Human Pleroma”. Gregory likens those Men implicit in God with the Angels, and says that they sinned and caused their exit from God: the Fall. For Gregory, the Fall consisted, on one hand, of a Multiplicity hitherto implicit in the Unit becoming explicit; and, on the other hand, on sexual division: on the split of each androgynous Angel into one male and one female, which meant the beginning of the material and divided man, man with a small “m”.
In the ninth–century, John Scotus Eriugena referred (in the work where he reveals the process that runs downwards from God towards the creatures and upwards from these back to God) to the caelestium numerositas or spiritualis numerositas, “celestial or spiritual numerosity” of Men potentially contained, in an implicit form, in the bosom of God before the Fall. These heavenly Men were androgynous, they were not men in the strictest sense but gods, since that for this great sage as well, Androgyny is the original condition of the human being, and a condition he lost because of sin. “If man had not sinned, he would not have suffered the split of his simplicity into two sexes” , writes Eriugena, for whom the blossoming of the Multiple was nothing but the actualization of a “Numerosity” latent in God.
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I have to disagree with you on this, because those institutions are precisely part of the problem regarding the "saving children", I don't believe they are saving anyone from the trafficking and enslavement, most likely they are a front for the the real criminals in these horrendous activities but on the inside these organizations are at the core of the problem, they manage and provide for the monsters who benefit from this aberrant behavior.
indeed:
Unicef Is An Evil Organization That Is Guilty Of Child Sex Trafficking
Have You Seen This Terrifying Unicef Propaganda Video Yet?
At the end of last year, Unicef published a video in which the viewer is taken to the year 2025. The pandemic has been raging for six years at that time. A little girl from Europe says that scientists developed 'life-saving' corona vaccines in record time in 2020. “It was amazing.”
It saved my parents and grandparents, the girl says, while dramatic music plays in the background.
Then a girl from Africa comes into the picture. “I lost my mother at the beginning of the pandemic. So many doctors and nurses got sick. Schools closed. But then there was a vaccine.”
It could have been so different
“You promised to share vaccines with the whole world, but it took too long,” says the girl from Africa.
“You withheld supplies. You have made people suffer in other countries. Doctors and nurses continued to get sick. Teachers died. You allowed the virus to proliferate, after which even more dangerous variants emerged.”
“It could have been so different. You knew that no one is safe until everyone is safe.”
Less than 5 percent
The video closes with a message from Unicef: the world has billions of vaccines, but less than 5 percent of Africans are vaccinated. World leaders, keep your pledge to end the pandemic everywhere, now.
In Africa, there was hardly any vaccination and corona mortality was very low.
Yep, due to our topsy-turvy world, well-known organizations that are created to protect children, in fact, do not.
I do resonate with what you wrote about androgyny, jav. Androgyny is the original condition of the human being,
Reading your post, I was reminded of the memoir written by Shirley Maclaine, El Camino.
As she walked across Spain, she received channeled information-- via dreams/visions/meditations- from a spirit she called, John the Scot. She did not know who this was at the time.
Later research revealed that it was John Scotus Eriugena.
What is truth but someone's perception?
I enjoyed the read and the concepts and impressions that were shared
@Javblanc Every demon there is, sugar coats their intentions. And as knowledgeable as they are, and they are knowledgeable, their intentions are always demonic in nature.
To my intuition, it is evident that what in this world best evokes the existence of God are children, the more so when they are smaller. Their innocence, their sweetness, their kindness, their purity, their lack of prejudice... everything about them unconsciously brings me back to God. I feel this in such a clear way that I cannot help but contribute to alleviating their suffering
That is a beautiful thing that you have written and we do need to care for and love the children of the world. I see what you are saying there, and I hope you can write more about that if you feel you can.
It is unfortunate that many institutions have used our best human qualities of caring, and sharing and wanting to help others and kind of hijacked them to get monetary funds to take advantage of children as others above have mentioned. But of course we must find other ways to care for children, our own and others too, bypassing the predator type institutions that know humans have great compassion when they see others suffering.
I hope one day children's innocence and trust is something that can be taken into their adulthood too, when there is a reciprocation of that caring and trust and it is not lost in the kind of cruel world that also exists now.
Within divine Unity underlies a Duality in love; that Unity, that God, is the fruit of an amorous interaction. It’s in this light that certain ancient sayings, such as this Kabbalist aphorism, were understood: “Within the secret of (the relationship between) man and woman, is God.” (Igueret ha-Qodech, paraphrasing a phrase from the Talmud, Sotah 17a). Or this line from an old Hindu text: “There are the Moon and the Sun, and between them the Seed: This last is that Being, whose nature is Joy Supreme.” (Hevajra Tantra) Or the first lines from this prayer from the first centuries of Christianity: “From Thee, Father, and through Thee, Mother, the two immortal names, Parents of the divine being…” (Hyppolotus of Rome, Refutationis omnium haeresium, V, 6) Or this sentence by the ancient Chinese sage Chuang Tzu: “A yin and a yang is called Tao: the passionate union of yin and yang and the copulation of husband and wife represent the eternal model of the Universe.”
The idea of God as a Couple of Spouses (a couple in love) frequently appears in the history of religions. So does a concept deriving from that idea: the concept of hierogamy, the “sacred marriage”. Hierogamy describes the loving union within Divinity, that is to say, the divine coupling –the union between God and Goddess– that becomes the One, the neutral God, a God that is neither male nor female but, so to speak, quite the opposite. Religion historians tell us that, in primitive religions, liturgical celebrations often revolved around the sacred matrimony between the priest and the priestess, or the priestess and the king. They also tell us that in primitive religious thought, Androgyny, the “two in one” conjugal attribute, was essential to Divinity. Mircea Eliade -the highest authority on History of Religion- speaks of Androgyny as the identifying sign, or “the mark”, of the Divine, and he claims that it was seen as a defining trait of the gods. Of all the Gods, including those typically male or female in appearance.
Humanity has known countless examples of “double gods” –androgynous gods, or divine couples. Let’s take a look at some of them.
Zeus, the Greek supreme God, despite his masculine reputation, in some archaic depictions he is an androgynous being. A statuette discovered in Labranda, in Caria, shows him beardless and with four rows of breasts on his chest. To the Orphic initiates, he was the “male–female god”: “Zeus is born male; immortal Zeus comes forth a nýmphi (female)”, so proclaims an Orphic hymn. Hercules, the quintessential virile hero, also presents certain dual–god connotations: there is an episode from his legend where he dresses in women’s clothing, and there is evidence that –at least in some places of the ancient world where he was worshipped– his priests and initiates dressed as women as well, just as the god himself. The Phoenix, a bird symbolising immortality, was male and female at the same time. In Cyprus, they worshipped a bearded Aphrodite called Aphroditos; and her Roman equivalent, the goddess of Love, Venus, had an androgynous version as well: the bald Venus of ancient worship. Artists and poets conceived and depicted her son Eros (Cupid to the Romans) as an androgyne. The nuptial goddess Hera (wife and sister of Zeus) not only had an androgynous figure but she also conceived her sons by herself, which is a clear sign of Androgyny. Most deities of flora and fertility were androgynous; like Dionysus, god of the vine, who was the paradigmatic bisexual god: they refer to him as “man–woman” in a tragedy by Aeschylus. In another, by Euripides, he is “the woman–like stranger”. (Although if in archaic times Dionysus was depicted in the full scope of his dual nature, in the Hellenistic era he would lapse into a graceful, effeminate adolescent.) The Romans knew numerous legendary characters– such as the Faun and Fauna, Ruminus and Rumina, Liber and Liberia– who would split into a male persona and a female persona. And this is only regarding the Greco–Roman civilisation!
Let’s travel to India now.
In Hindu religion, there are many gods, but ultimately it all comes down to one divine couple: Mahadeva and Mahadevi, “Great God” and “Great Goddess”. This uniform couple, popularly known as Shiva and Shakti (Shakti meaning “wife” in Sanscrit), is identified with the One, with the Absolute. Sometimes they are shown fused in a tight embrace, others, under the form of a single androgynous being. In the former’s case, they have also been given the names Kameshvara and Kameshvari; in the latter’s, Addhanarishvara (Ardhanari: “the Androgyne”), or simply Ishvara, “Lord”, which is the supreme God’s habitual title. The Buddha, who, while not being a God, is called upon like one (“Lord Buddha”, he is called), is often represented tightly hugging his Shakti…
As seen, erotic love also operates in the bosom of Hindu Divinity. And this love is not something adjacent or contingent but, on the contrary, something substantial and essential to the Divine. This is notable in the names of Kameshvara and Kameshvari, where –next to Ishvara or Ishvara, “lord” or “lady”– appears the word kama, “love”.
The primitive Australian’s primordial god was androgynous. So was feudal China’s supreme god, which happens to be another typical example of splitting, for even though they called him Sovereign on High and August Heaven, this name split into two parts, Sovereign on High and August Heaven. (It’s, as you can see, two redundant designations, twins.) The famous feathered serpent Quetzalcoatl, the pre– Columbian deity, was also androgynous. The belief in the supreme god’s androgyny has also been observed in several Native–American pueblo peoples –pueblo peoples such as the Zuni, worshippers of a deity called “He–She” (Awonawilona). The native inhabitants of ancient Mexico called their god “Father–Mother” (Ometecuhtli–Omecihuatl), a prevalent name in mythology. Thus, on the Indonesian island of Kisar, in the Malukus Islands, the supreme deity was called “Our– mother–Our–father” (Apna–Apha).
What else? The old Baltic religion knew a God by the name of Jumis, a word that in the Baltic languages denotes “two things grown together into one unit.” Similarly, among the Scandinavian mythological gods (Odin, Frey, Loki, Nerthus…), there is no lack of a more or less veiled androgynous component. The Goddess Nerthus, for example, is the female version of Njörd, god of the wind and the sea. The fertility god Frey (“Lord” in Norwegian) has a twin sister, Freya (“Lady”). Legend says that Frey and Freya are Njörd’s sons and, for a while, lived together as a married couple. On the other hemisphere, we have the bisexual gods of old Babylon. We have Zurvan, the archaic Iranian god, god of “Infinite Time”, depicted in a bronze sculpture as a winged and androgynous god that gives birth to two twin gods, Ohrmuzd and Ahriman…
I have just mentioned two instances of divine twins. Twinness is a widely observed motif in primitive religions and mythologies. Twins account for the splitting of a single being (a religion historian talks about the “ the implicit matrimony in twin kinship”) into the two powers or people that implicitly integrate it. Mythological twins are often of the opposite sex, but when that does not happen (Romulus and Remo, for example, or Castor and Pollux…), then one is usually characterised as solar, and the other lunar, the sun and the moon being symbols of masculinity and femininity. Many divine spouses from mythology are taken for twin brothers and, on occasion, are openly presented as such. In Japanese mythology, the supreme deity, the creator of all things, assumes the shape of a pair of brothers, Izanagi and Izanami. Zeus and Hera, besides being married, were also brother and sister, just like the Egyptian gods Isis and Osiris: hence the tradition of the pharaoh, regarded as the embodiment of God, marrying his sister. Almost every god from the Egyptian pantheon has his kin, his consort: Amon/Amonet, Noun/Nounet, Heh/ Hehet, Bes/Beset…, and the older gods being, furthermore, bisexual. So, according to the linguists, the supreme god’s name, Aton (later associated with the sun–god Ra), possibly means “the one who is whole”. In such case, Aton justifies his name for, even though he male, he was, in reality, bisexual: in the writings on sarcophagi, he is referred to as “the great He–She”, which certainly leaves little room for doubt. Maat, daughter of Ra, also had the power of splitting, a common power among the Egyptian gods…
God is eminently one, but according to the esoteric notion, God is also numerous. He is so eternally, that is part of His nature. Of his implicit nature: this is the key. God’s Plurality is secret, implicit, underlying, the same as His Duality (male/female). That is: the Couple of Spouses implicit in God is not only one; they are many. For the ancient sages of Greek culture, that multiplicity of Divine couples were called Syzygias, which in Greek means “unions of two”. Note the Syzygias don’t identify varied Units but always the same one, God’s Unit, which is, by definition, unique. The Unit’s diversity is adjectival, not substantive. Perhaps to make this concept more easily understandable, the greatest Sufi theosophist, the Love’s Faithful Ibn Arabi of Murcia, increased the number of God’s Names given by the Quran. God –announces Ibn Arabi– has infinite Names. One for each soul, he says. One for each couple of twin souls, we may venture to say. One for each Syzygia. That is to say, the Plurality of God is nominal and does not affect His essence. It’s similar to what happens with God concerting the different religions. In each religion, God receives a different name –Allah, Yahweh, Brahma, Christ…–, but that does not mean that there are as many Gods as religions; God is universal, it’s the same One for all of them; only His Name and His circumstances change. When Kabbalah and other esoteric traditions speak of the fall or diminution of God (tsim-tsum in Hebrew, meaning "contraction", "self limitation"), they allude to a turn around by which, in a portion of God, the Duality and Plurality became explicit. It was the origin of the dual and multiple world of Matter. When Kabbalah and other esoteric traditions speak of the fall or the exile or the diminution of God (tsim-tsum in Hebrew, meaning "contraction", "self limitation"), they allude to a turn around by which, in a portion of God, God's implicit Duality and Plurality became explicit. It was the origin of the dual and multiple world of Matter.
Christian theologian Nicholas of Cusa, in the fifteenth-century (although the concept was universal and much older), defined the Divine Being with the formula coincidentia oppositorum, “unity of opposites”, of which he said it was the most thorough definition of God. Cusanus (as he is called) believed that, although God’s reality was outside the grasp of human intelligence, it could be glimpsed through mystic intuition. And his intuition told him (that intuition was widely shared by the ancient sages: Kabbalists had already named the Divine, Ha–achdut Ha–shawah, “a unity of opposites”) his intuition told him that the closest thing to Divinity was that: the “unity of opposites”, the unification of the opposites in a synthesis that transcends them… If the lower world is composed of couples of opposites –light and darkness, black and white, tall and short…–, in God the opposites “agree”, they reconcile, they unite; they become complementaries and, in a way, equals. And this “agreement” paves the way for a Third Thing. A Third Thing that (as unthinkable as it may appear to our dualist intellect) is unitary: both light and darkness, black and white, tall and short… There are innumerable couples of opposites, there is nothing in this lower world without its opposite. But ultimately, they all go back to a single one: the male–female couple, which is the prototypical synthesis, the quintessential pair of opposites. This is what allows the ancient sages to say that the mutual love between a man and a woman is the pattern for universal love, for the love that, as Dante says, “moves the sun and the other stars” (l’amor che move il sole e l’atre stelle).
We could say that the Androgyne is an “x–ray” of God since, in Him, we cannot see (with the naked eye, let's say) anything other than the One, while the Androgyne reveals an “x–ray” image of that One: an image of the two halves that merge into the One. The ancient sages could discern in Divinity those two sides: what is visible to the “naked eye”, and the “x–ray”.
The ancient Chinese sages represented what they called Tao –which would be Divinity– with that dual appearance. The “naked eye” appearance of the Tao is the Tai Kih, the Great Essence, represented by an empty circle; the x–ray is the yin–yang, represented by that same circle helicoidally divided into two halves.
They saw in God an “empty circle”, a neutral being, asexual, an entity that is neither male nor female, quite the opposite. But when they took an x–ray of God, they distinguished –in that One God– two halves, two separate Persons, one male and another female.
Now, this Couple or Duality, that deep down is God, is a Couple or Duality in love, a Couple eternally immersed in the sublime emotion of love.
Thus, we arrive, then, through this unexpected path, at the ancient sages’ fundamental intuition, laconically proclaimed in the Gospel of John: that “God is Love” (I John 4: 16).
If we applied the old scholastic distinction here, we would say that Unity is the substantial form of God, and Love (starting with erotic love, which is the root of all love) His raw material. Just as it says in the Zohar: “Love holds the mystery of the Unity”.
Just as the heart is a muscle that needs to be filled with blood in order to work, Unity is a muscle that is fueled by Love.
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