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    Default Population control and reincarnation: how to reconcile this?

    Hello community!

    So I'm trying to wrap my head around this so bear with me...

    From my understanding, there's a strong hypothesis that the globalists want population control. If, (and I do pace emphasis on the if) the soul lives on, and reincarnation is in fact a reality, then what happens to all of those other souls who are now "dead"? Do they linger in the astral? If there is some form of control from these beings of the astral world, and they need their loosh from the World's population, then what use would it be to kill off so many?

    I look forward to your replies

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    Default Re: Population control and reincarnation: how to reconcile this?

    I responded here to a very similar question on 12 December, on a different thread called The reincarnation error.

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    Quote Posted by JackMcThorn (here)
    I first heard of regressions here at this forum but I was sort of familiar with reincarnation so I have a couple of questions.

    It seems that since the 1970s; approximately 50 years ago, the world population nearly doubled from 4 billion to almost 8 billion people. Are some souls on their first iteration? It seems like most regressions describe a past life on earth, not from somewhere else. If a soul is not on its first iteration, and it is possible it is not from earth, why would so many souls be coming here during these more recent decades [if indeed they are from afar]?

    Thank you kindly in advance.
    Great question, and there's absolutely no shortage of souls/spirits in the universe. Uncountable quintillions of them, and many more than that.

    So some might be having their first incarnation on this planet, while others accustomed to being here might just be taking turns, as it were.

    Why there may be such interest in spending a lifetime (or for that matter, many) on Planet Earth is also a good question. Possible answers are likely to include:
    • It's one of the frontline battlegrounds at the moment for the eons-old good vs evil standoff.
    • Planet Earth is an exceptionally beautiful and interesting place, by any cosmic standards.
    • This is where many other old friends have come — so this is the new meeting place, where the party's at right now.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    I responded here to a very similar question on 12 December, on a different thread called The reincarnation error.

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    Quote Posted by JackMcThorn (here)
    I first heard of regressions here at this forum but I was sort of familiar with reincarnation so I have a couple of questions.

    It seems that since the 1970s; approximately 50 years ago, the world population nearly doubled from 4 billion to almost 8 billion people. Are some souls on their first iteration? It seems like most regressions describe a past life on earth, not from somewhere else. If a soul is not on its first iteration, and it is possible it is not from earth, why would so many souls be coming here during these more recent decades [if indeed they are from afar]?

    Thank you kindly in advance.
    Great question, and there's absolutely no shortage of souls/spirits in the universe. Uncountable quintillions of them, and many more than that.

    So some might be having their first incarnation on this planet, while others accustomed to being here might just be taking turns, as it were.

    Why there may be such interest in spending a lifetime (or for that matter, many) on Planet Earth is also a good question. Possible answers are likely to include:
    • It's one of the frontline battlegrounds at the moment for the eons-old good vs evil standoff.
    • Planet Earth is an exceptionally beautiful and interesting place, by any cosmic standards.
    • This is where many other old friends have come — so this is the new meeting place, where the party's at right now.
    Thank you for your reply Bill, however, it doesn't quite answer the question from the perspective of earth being a 'soul trap'. If that is the case, then there's no other option other than to reincarnate on Earth. Im not saying that is so, I'm very new to all of this, but if that is a possibility, then killing off most of the population only to have us lining up to be reincarnated again makes no sense.

    thanks again.

    with love
    Gaz

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    Quote Posted by gazap (here)

    Thank you for your reply Bill, however, it doesn't quite answer the question from the perspective of earth being a 'soul trap'. If that is the case, then there's no other option other than to reincarnate on Earth.
    All I can really say here is that the idea of Earth being a 'soul trap' has never been real to me, and based on what I feel I know and understand I personally don't buy that notion at all.

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    Quote Posted by gazap (here)

    Thank you for your reply Bill, however, it doesn't quite answer the question from the perspective of earth being a 'soul trap'. If that is the case, then there's no other option other than to reincarnate on Earth.
    All I can really say here is that the idea of Earth being a 'soul trap' has never been real to me, and based on what I feel I know and understand I personally don't buy that notion at all.
    And I respect that Bill. I too am on the fence about it all. Thanks for your input, it's always appreciated

    Gaz

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    Quote Posted by gazap (here)
    Hello community!

    So I'm trying to wrap my head around this so bear with me...

    From my understanding, there's a strong hypothesis that the globalists want population control. If, (and I do pace emphasis on the if) the soul lives on, and reincarnation is in fact a reality, then what happens to all of those other souls who are now "dead"? Do they linger in the astral? If there is some form of control from these beings of the astral world, and they need their loosh from the World's population, then what use would it be to kill off so many?

    I look forward to your replies
    Have you ever considered that your Soul is multidimensional >>> and can "reincarnate" to any TIME (future or past) not limited to your own current time-line ... You can also "reincarnate" to any other planet in the whole Universe ... and the last time I checked ... there is plenty of space to do that, and I am not even mentioning parallel universes.
    • On top of all that ... when you remember again who you really are (after you have died) ... there is a big chance your origin is not from Earth at all ... maybe you came from Sirius or The Pleiades (having temporary amnesia) or many other possible (undiscovered) exoplanets.
    • Depending on how you limited yourself mostly through fear ... it may seem people entrap themselves through self-imposed limitations of super strong beliefs & assumptions... these beliefs/conditioning will prevent you to have access to the bigger picture. As far as I am aware of: THIS IS ALLOWED ... if you want to limit yourself even not realizing what the cause of that behavior is >>> you can recycle here on Earth in to infinity until you get really fed up with that
    • The "recycling incarnation trap" is only a "trap" you strongly hold on to certain beliefs & (self)-conditioning.
    • Some will not remember who they really are (after they died) and hold on to a narrow myopic vision of themselves, feeling as a victim ... the stronger this belief in victimhood, the more likely it will take a long time before you can go beyond of all that.
    • To let go and move on is for the vast majority of Souls very difficult, and I am also "guilty" of that.
    cheers,
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    Quote Posted by gazap (here)
    Hello community!

    So I'm trying to wrap my head around this so bear with me...

    From my understanding, there's a strong hypothesis that the globalists want population control. If, (and I do pace emphasis on the if) the soul lives on, and reincarnation is in fact a reality, then what happens to all of those other souls who are now "dead"? Do they linger in the astral? If there is some form of control from these beings of the astral world, and they need their loosh from the World's population, then what use would it be to kill off so many?

    I look forward to your replies

    Have you ever considered that your Soul is multidimensional >>> and can "reincarnate" to any TIME (future or past) not limited to your own current time-line ... on top of that you can "reincarnate" to any other planet in the whole Universe ... and the last time I checked ... there is plenty of space to do that and I am not even mentioning parallel universes.
    • On top of all that ... when you remember again who you really are (after you have died) ... there is a big chance your origin is not from Earth at all ... maybe you came from Sirius or The Pleiades (having temporary amnesia) or many other possible (undiscovered) exoplanets.
    • Depending on how you limited yourself mostly through fear ... it may seem people entrap themselves through self-imposed limitations of super strong beliefs & assumptions... these beliefs/conditioning will prevent you to have access to the bigger picture. As far as I am aware of: THIS IS ALLOWED ... if you want to limit yourself even not realizing what the cause of that behavior is >>> you can recycle here on Earth in to infinity until you get really fed up with that
    • The "recycling incarnation trap" is only a "trap" you strongly hold on to certain beliefs & (self)-conditioning.
    • Some will not remember who they really are (after they died) and hold on to a narrow myopic vision of themselves, feeling as a victim ... the stronger this belief in victimhood, the more likely it will take a long time before you can go beyond of all that.
    • To let go and move on is for the vast majority of Souls very difficult, and I am also "guilty" of that.
    cheers,
    John 🦜🦋🌳 (Near Death Experiencer)
    I love this, thanks John. I have not even considered other possibilities like what you've mentioned. I am too overly simplistic and will probably never fathom the complexities of what may be. Very fascinating and thank you for putting another spin on it.

    With love
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    I think "the Soul" our soul is everywhere at same time (Place and time?), it is my/your "Earthly Soul" consciousness that is here in this life (focused here, so we see here)(focus is consciousness),
    our soul is in all others at same time, just not in these eyes as it where.
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    Gazap, John — just a personal note: what convinced me of our identity’s, or Self’s, multidimensionality was reading, late in the 90s, in one of the classic scientific studies on reincarnation that multiple simultaneous incarnations exist — evidence of this being found in India. The same person dies and reincarnates in two people who live more or less at the same time (are not necessarily born at the same time). Stronger still: a person reincarnates before he/she dies, and meets her/his reincarnation.

    In this I accept facts witnessed and hypotheses formulated by others whom I trust, believe. Personal experience makes me think that the strong kinship we feel with certain humans or animals points to something like what Bill refers to. As bodies we are largely individuals, but as souls we are more like dividuals, and as spirits we may be angels: phases of God. We are each other.

    Earth is a trap only to those who think they are only themselves. But the “plasmas of angels” (to quote a suggestion made by Robert Temple in his New Science of Heaven) want to come here before it is too late... in massively chartered UAP’s... "to see Venice and die"... because they love earthlings – find us divinely beautiful – for years and years of eternity they go to the gym in order to look like us as much as possible lest they frighten us when they appear... archangels participating in the Archolympics.. because they fear to tread on us... they are so light they could mash us..
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    Quote Posted by gazap (here)
    From my understanding, there's a strong hypothesis that the globalists want population control. If, (and I do pace emphasis on the if) the soul lives on, and reincarnation is in fact a reality, then what happens to all of those other souls who are now "dead"? Do they linger in the astral? If there is some form of control from these beings of the astral world, and they need their loosh from the World's population, then what use would it be to kill off so many?
    Before coming to earth we have already made this soul choice to incarnate. The choice of our parents, the choice of country, the choice of religion…..
    We come from different planetary sojourns, through the Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune ... and the final rendezvous on earth is the most difficult incarnation to live for young souls who have everything to learn. If you are an old soul you have acquired wisdom, what you possess has no value in your eyes, because you have the possibility of detaching yourself through the mind, because you are already connected in an elsewhere and death does not don't be afraid. Ask yourself the right questions, we are all in the right place

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    Quote Posted by gazap (here)
    Hello community!

    So I'm trying to wrap my head around this so bear with me...

    From my understanding, there's a strong hypothesis that the globalists want population control. If, (and I do pace emphasis on the if) the soul lives on, and reincarnation is in fact a reality, then what happens to all of those other souls who are now "dead"? Do they linger in the astral? If there is some form of control from these beings of the astral world, and they need their loosh from the World's population, then what use would it be to kill off so many?

    I look forward to your replies
    I like the question, and what everyone so far is saying.

    In a practical sense, in the story of the polarities trying to win control, focusing first on the [ - ] polarity, they are numerically in the minority so at this great time of change taking [ + ] players out of the game gives them an advantage. Even if it is just in the short haul. It takes 'time' once you've been offed from the field to get back into it. So.....(yeah)....it buys them time. This said, I feel it is also the [ + ] polarity that is working toward reducing the global population at the moment. Their focus is of course more fundamentally on the survival of the human race itself all said and done ( we are at the moment potentially in a catastrophe cycle ). Gobal Earth changes, weather, the grid going down. The fewer people not preparing for this on this planet, the better for those who actually are when the competition for resources begins escalating. It may equally be felt kinder to cull in advance those refusing to awaken, than let them face the horrors of what is coming unprepared; extreme weather, no power, no services, no food, fear leading humans into fight/flight, killing, cannibalizing, etc.. Humanity has a better chance of surviving if there are more of those who are awakening ( and preparing ) and fewer of those who are not. I would not want to be at the helm of these decisions and feel deeply for those who are. What an enormous burden to bare. All of this filters down of course, from Source through the higher to lower/ground-level dimension. Our Universal Creator is a loving being *none of what I have just shared is evil. It is equilibrium itself, eternally seeking harmonious balance. I know as humans we often see in a quite different light, but we also have such a limited scope, muddied by fear, judgment, bias and more. Nature and natural cycles may not always ( or even ever ) seem kind, but It is a wonderful Intelligence and Love - gleaning this makes it so much easier to absorb and process.

    Just a quick stop back at the basics. Due to the mechanics of equilibrium, eras....any timeframe down here on the planet offers only so many positions on the field *only so many players are allowed at any given time. Currently, heading into the catastrophe, the positions are lessening, so getting taken out makes it that much harder to get back in. And once you do, you are starting again from scratch. It can take decades to regather the awareness and depth you were taken out at. Again, all this buys the [ - ] polarity "time".

    So.........DON'T GET TAKEN OUT.

    Be attentive and don't break, or even skate the threshold of any rules.

    This is a subject in itself. Many of us get taken out due to this. WE cross a line in which retaliation is acceptable.

    We have to be smarter.
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    I can only speak from my experience of past life regression sessions and what I have learned from a personal perspective.

    But I don’t believe there is an earth soul trap.

    I have viewed 3 previous lives so far (but I know there is many more I’ve not yet become aware of)
    The ‘middle’ life I viewed, somewhere between 1200 and 1650 wasn’t on this earth, yet the ones previous and following after it was on earth.

    If the earth soul trap idea was true, I wouldn’t have been able to escape earth and go elsewhere and then return again.
    Unless the earth soul trap thing is something new..in which case I’ll have to get back to you once I visit more recent incarnations ☺️

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    Thank you for your reply Bill, however, it doesn't quite answer the question from the perspective of earth being a 'soul trap'. If that is the case, then there's no other option other than to reincarnate on Earth.
    All I can really say here is that the idea of Earth being a 'soul trap' has never been real to me, and based on what I feel I know and understand I personally don't buy that notion at all.
    I am not necessarily stuck with this "soul trap" thing (even though there has been quite a few claims about it - see my opening post at Your next incarnation )

    It's merely a practical consideration of having the freedom to choose which game to play in which environment.

    Earth, while it has certainly many beauties in it's realm, isn't really top notch of the SIMS games.
    Actually the real thing missing is the ability to chose the desired environment and one's capabilities. (Which most SIMS games provide.)

    I heard the meme that one chooses the family and circumstances and challenges before entering birth - but I second that. Was it rather a compromise to agree to a contract?

    Whatever happens after ex-carnation, the prime objective would be sovereignty and freedom.

    And in reply to the OP, there could be many souls who go elsewhere as in "not every mouse gets trapped by a mouse trap".
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    we could do what Xenu did: blow everyone up witht H bombs so they're too messed up to reincarnate :-)

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    This is a very relevant question in my view, gazap. It is a question I have been asking myself due to the not-so-great reset agenda of depopulation. If this agenda is successful, what happens to souls given that there would be fewer bodies to occupy here on Earth?

    It appears to me that it is an individual phenomenon. I can only say what happened on my own linear timeline. [I have not recalled being on any other parallel (or whatever) timelines.] I have recovered the memories of many past lifetimes and soul-trapping experiences that occurred between incarnations, not only vis-a-vis Earth, but way back in the past as well.

    As I discovered through my independent research with other abductees including myself, it is possibly different for us than others because we are followed, monitored from lifetime to lifetime and sometimes placed in positions of authority in government, military, secret societies and religions in order to keep mankind in spiritual darkness and confusion about what is really happening here on Earth.

    I know some members here on Avalon are well aware of my story so I'm writing this for others as well. I discovered three decades ago via recovered past life memories that I came to this planet for the first time about fifty-five and a half millennia ago. I was a free being in space and I hijacked a ship commanded by a human-looking female that looked like Wonder Woman. This was of course an unethical thing to do as it violates the natural/universal law of not harming others.

    After landing the craft on Earth I was soon eaten by Reptilians. I still hung around Earth as a free being and about 15, 300 years ago I was helping a group called the "Telosians" or "Thelosians" to stop the abductions of Earthlings by Grays. However, another group, Mantis, that works with Grays caught up with me about three thousand years later and they captured me as a free being. I have not been free since that time.

    Upon my body death in each lifetime since then I am sucked up into a large Mantis mothership via the light-at-the-end-of-the-tunnel technology. Sometimes they just direct me to a hospital into a baby's body, which is how I ended up in my current body, and other times they force me into a body on the mothership and then transport me down to Earth.

    As a side note, I found out that the new agers who believe their channeled entities were wrong that we abductees "agreed" to be abducted. Not true.

    On the other hand, some souls hang around here on Earth often occupying a house as a "ghost". I have communicated with a ghost before so I know this is a real phenomenon. So that is why I say we are not all treated the same way.

    Now let me backtrack a bit to say that I remember coming to this universe from another much different universe that was more holographic, that is, less dense. We were more transparent as light and did not have bodies, per se. I violated natural law, harmed another being and was sent before judges. They decided to get rid of me so they boxed me up and sent me to this universe. This occurred a very long time ago.

    So "soul traps" are real and this is certainly not a new phenomenon. And it boils down to the question of what should beings do with other beings who are violating the natural law of not harming others?

    To get to the point of this thread the question on my mind is: Are the souls of the humans, being intentionally killed via this depopulation agenda, somehow packaged up and shoved out of sight under the cosmic rug, as it were, as has been done before?

    I know this to be a very real possibility and it's not a happy subject to address and wonder about.

    But perhaps it is time for all this to come out in the open. Perhaps other benevolent ETs are involved and want to help in a good way to turn things around. I certainly hope this to be the case.

    My viewpoint is that the Mantis and their co-conspirators do not have a sustainable solution. Since time immemorial they have been entrapping souls through technology, trickery and lies and they intentionally block our memories so that we cannot learn from lifetime to lifetime. Not a good solution.

    Perhaps with the aid of other benevolent beings we can change this destructive paradigm of blocking memories so that we can easily remember our past and thereby learn from it in order to realize the importance of following natural law and not harming others.

    Like the prison systems on Earth, which they laughingly call "Correctional Facilities", they do not rehabilitate or correct anything. We as spiritual beings must come up with more positive solutions to this age-old problem.

    [I apologize for the length of this post but this is very big subject that must finally be addressed. I briefly covered this subject in THE EYE OF RA, link below, in the chapter entitled "In-Between Lives Implants & Out Of Body Abductions".]
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    I think "the Soul" our soul is everywhere at same time (Place and time?), it is my/your "Earthly Soul" consciousness that is here in this life (focused here, so we see here)(focus is consciousness),
    our soul is in all others at same time, just not in these eyes as it where.
    very interesting concept and thanks for sharing. If that is the case, then why is it that I'm only experiencing this reality? Is who I am in this reality, not who my soul is? And if so, do I cease to exist when the remaining fractures of the soul become whole?

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    Gazap, John — just a personal note: what convinced me of our identity’s, or Self’s, multidimensionality was reading, late in the 90s, in one of the classic scientific studies on reincarnation that multiple simultaneous incarnations exist — evidence of this being found in India. The same person dies and reincarnates in two people who live more or less at the same time (are not necessarily born at the same time). Stronger still: a person reincarnates before he/she dies, and meets her/his reincarnation.

    In this I accept facts witnessed and hypotheses formulated by others whom I trust, believe. Personal experience makes me think that the strong kinship we feel with certain humans or animals points to something like what Bill refers to. As bodies we are largely individuals, but as souls we are more like dividuals, and as spirits we may be angels: phases of God. We are each other.

    Earth is a trap only to those who think they are only themselves. But the “plasmas of angels” (to quote a suggestion made by Robert Temple in his New Science of Heaven) want to come here before it is too late... in massively chartered UAP’s... "to see Venice and die"... because they love earthlings – find us divinely beautiful – for years and years of eternity they go to the gym in order to look like us as much as possible lest they frighten us when they appear... archangels participating in the Archolympics.. because they fear to tread on us... they are so light they could mash us..
    that sounds interesting indeed. I remember Newton is his book journey of souls discusses how souls can separate and live 2 lives at the same time, even though it was rare. Any ideas where I can get a hold of that study?

    thanks again
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    From my understanding, there's a strong hypothesis that the globalists want population control. If, (and I do pace emphasis on the if) the soul lives on, and reincarnation is in fact a reality, then what happens to all of those other souls who are now "dead"? Do they linger in the astral? If there is some form of control from these beings of the astral world, and they need their loosh from the World's population, then what use would it be to kill off so many?
    Before coming to earth we have already made this soul choice to incarnate. The choice of our parents, the choice of country, the choice of religion…..
    We come from different planetary sojourns, through the Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune ... and the final rendezvous on earth is the most difficult incarnation to live for young souls who have everything to learn. If you are an old soul you have acquired wisdom, what you possess has no value in your eyes, because you have the possibility of detaching yourself through the mind, because you are already connected in an elsewhere and death does not don't be afraid. Ask yourself the right questions, we are all in the right place
    How can you be certain of what you're saying? I love that you have such faith and conviction in your belief, but how are you so sure? I sure feel like a new soul here, I've never felt comfortable in this place and have always been somewhat of an outcast. Being a new soul to earth feels right to me. I tell you what though, there's not a hope in hell that I'm coming back here!

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    Hello community!

    So I'm trying to wrap my head around this so bear with me...

    From my understanding, there's a strong hypothesis that the globalists want population control. If, (and I do pace emphasis on the if) the soul lives on, and reincarnation is in fact a reality, then what happens to all of those other souls who are now "dead"? Do they linger in the astral? If there is some form of control from these beings of the astral world, and they need their loosh from the World's population, then what use would it be to kill off so many?

    I look forward to your replies
    I like the question, and what everyone so far is saying.

    In a practical sense, in the story of the polarities trying to win control, focusing first on the [ - ] polarity, they are numerically in the minority so at this great time of change taking [ + ] players out of the game gives them an advantage. Even if it is just in the short haul. It takes 'time' once you've been offed from the field to get back into it. So.....(yeah)....it buys them time. This said, I feel it is also the [ + ] polarity that is working toward reducing the global population at the moment. Their focus is of course more fundamentally on the survival of the human race itself all said and done ( we are at the moment potentially in a catastrophe cycle ). Gobal Earth changes, weather, the grid going down. The fewer people not preparing for this on this planet, the better for those who actually are when the competition for resources begins escalating. It may equally be felt kinder to cull in advance those refusing to awaken, than let them face the horrors of what is coming unprepared; extreme weather, no power, no services, no food, fear leading humans into fight/flight, killing, cannibalizing, etc.. Humanity has a better chance of surviving if there are more of those who are awakening ( and preparing ) and fewer of those who are not. I would not want to be at the helm of these decisions and feel deeply for those who are. What an enormous burden to bare. All of this filters down of course, from Source through the higher to lower/ground-level dimension. Our Universal Creator is a loving being *none of what I have just shared is evil. It is equilibrium itself, eternally seeking harmonious balance. I know as humans we often see in a quite different light, but we also have such a limited scope, muddied by fear, judgment, bias and more. Nature and natural cycles may not always ( or even ever ) seem kind, but It is a wonderful Intelligence and Love - gleaning this makes it so much easier to absorb and process.

    Just a quick stop back at the basics. Due to the mechanics of equilibrium, eras....any timeframe down here on the planet offers only so many positions on the field *only so many players are allowed at any given time. Currently, heading into the catastrophe, the positions are lessening, so getting taken out makes it that much harder to get back in. And once you do, you are starting again from scratch. It can take decades to regather the awareness and depth you were taken out at. Again, all this buys the [ - ] polarity "time".

    So.........DON'T GET TAKEN OUT.

    Be attentive and don't break, or even skate the threshold of any rules.

    This is a subject in itself. Many of us get taken out due to this. WE cross a line in which retaliation is acceptable.

    We have to be smarter.
    Am I right in saying that what you believe is that this shedding of sorts is a cycle? And that if humans are to continue on this planet, then a sort of culling is necessary? I can see that but then I've read compelling articles detailing whole overpopulation is a myth, and that given the means, we could all be self-sufficient without feeling the need to be controlled by our 'masters'. It's the lies, deceit, and disempowerment by governments which are to blame. And the big question is why? What's behind the nefarious tactic? To me, it seems obvious that there's a negative et agenda because it makes no sense otherwise.

    thanks for your input, its much appreciated
    gaz

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    I can only speak from my experience of past life regression sessions and what I have learned from a personal perspective.

    But I don’t believe there is an earth soul trap.

    I have viewed 3 previous lives so far (but I know there is many more I’ve not yet become aware of)
    The ‘middle’ life I viewed, somewhere between 1200 and 1650 wasn’t on this earth, yet the ones previous and following after it was on earth.

    If the earth soul trap idea was true, I wouldn’t have been able to escape earth and go elsewhere and then return again.
    Unless the earth soul trap thing is something new..in which case I’ll have to get back to you once I visit more recent incarnations ☺️
    could it be layers upon layers of traps? Not just earth, but our universe as whole?

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    Thank you for your reply Bill, however, it doesn't quite answer the question from the perspective of earth being a 'soul trap'. If that is the case, then there's no other option other than to reincarnate on Earth.
    All I can really say here is that the idea of Earth being a 'soul trap' has never been real to me, and based on what I feel I know and understand I personally don't buy that notion at all.
    I am not necessarily stuck with this "soul trap" thing (even though there has been quite a few claims about it - see my opening post at Your next incarnation )

    It's merely a practical consideration of having the freedom to choose which game to play in which environment.

    Earth, while it has certainly many beauties in it's realm, isn't really top notch of the SIMS games.
    Actually the real thing missing is the ability to chose the desired environment and one's capabilities. (Which most SIMS games provide.)

    I heard the meme that one chooses the family and circumstances and challenges before entering birth - but I second that. Was it rather a compromise to agree to a contract?

    Whatever happens after ex-carnation, the prime objective would be sovereignty and freedom.

    And in reply to the OP, there could be many souls who go elsewhere as in "not every mouse gets trapped by a mouse trap".
    Yes Im trying to be as open minded as I can be given the wealth of knowledge that has been shared with me on this wonderful forum. I think Earth is beautiful, its just that its been overrun by moronic and evil parasites. I would not want to incarnate into another life on earth given its trajectory with the discussion of a metaverse, a world controlled by the crazy WEF nut jobs. That is a true **** show

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    we could do what Xenu did: blow everyone up witht H bombs so they're too messed up to reincarnate :-)

    https://www.learnreligions.com/scien...ord-xenu-95929
    All options are on the table, lol

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