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    • "Elon Unmusked" ? ... Corbett, Webb, Tlav & Broze Ultra Panel!

    Derrick Broze of The Conscious Resistance hosts journalists/researchers Whitney Webb, James Corbett, Jason Bermas, and Ryan Cristián to discuss why the public should be extremely skeptical of Elon Musk.
    The Conscious Resistance Network is an independent media organization focused on empowering individuals through education, philosophy, health, and community organizing. We work to create a world where corporate and state power does not rule over the lives of free human beings.

    Full Video: odysee.com/@theconsciousresistance:7/elonmuskpanel:b



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    "You will never influence most people, because you are NOT an AUTHORITY figure. That's inferred by the Milgram Experiment findings. 80% of People Will Do Whatever They Are Told "Psychologist Stanley Milgram found that 80% of people do not have the psychological and moral resources to defy an authority's order, no matter how legitimate the order is.

    Only 20% have critical capacity." -- 1980s news clip The masses have been groomed and domesticated for thousands of years to OBEY and TRUST their rulers, even when the evidence proves that it is in their own interest not to. The willful blindness of the masses enables corruption of governments and corporations, and that is what has led us to where we are today.

    The question that remains is NOT what makes the ruling class malevolent, because they are merely acting upon self-interest.

    The question is WHY THE MASSES OF INDIVIDUALS ARE NOT GUARDING THEIR OWN SELF-INTEREST.

    Why are so many people, when presented with the evidence of DANGER from their own governments, STILL allowing themselves to be abused, exploited, experimented upon and poisoned?

    I think the answer is the Milgram Effect. Human instincts have been hacked through domestication. The majority of people are always obedient and trusting toward surrogate parents, heroes and saviors, because that strategy of forfeiting personal responsibility to guard one's own interests is easier, requiring less time and attention. It doesn't even matter that the authority figure is exploiting the masses for their own interests. People choose the lesser of two evils, and self-determination seems to be the greatest of all evils to the 80% who lack the rational and moral faculties for discernment.

    So, they rely on being TOLD what they should think and feel. As for Musk, he's offering HOPE, even if it's false hope. People tolerate lies and ineptitude better than truthful rejection. A lying friend is better than a truthful enemy, and 80% can't discern a placating, lying enemy".

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    Default Re: Musk is not the answer

    I came up with my own theory about potential „gatekeepers“ like Musk. Maybe he is controlled opposition (in a desire of the rulers to keep the game going, or by design of the grand architect himself) or he is truly independent and himself, or a Kennedy like rebelling elite.

    Who knows?

    But, as I see it. For now, what he is doing is „advancing the cause“ of the resistance via the Twitter Files and also via partly uncensoring Twitter. Like our cause was advanced by Epstein and Ghislaine becoming (semi) public knowledge. Who in his right elite-controller mind might want to let any of this slip?

    So, I think we can ride this „advancing our cause“ wave as long as it’s beneficial. The danger comes when Musk then goes off our case and full on AI transhumanism. Here the sovereign observer must say „thank you Mr Musk for riding our wave for a while, but we won‘t follow you to hell“.

    All in all, it could be a game of discernment, trusting the flow and not shying away to switch allegiance at the right moment.

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    I heard a brilliantly astute opinion about Musk today, by niish.

    "If you could hold up what Musk is doing to the mass mind, to a mirror, and look at the mirror image of it instead, it would look like gaslighting".
    ..................................................my first language is TYPO..............................................

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    Default Re: Musk is not the answer

    I really have no clue but i see a powerfull ultra rich guy,who warns the world for the great dangers of AI, who calls for critical thinking and defends strongly the vital importance of the freedom of speech and who has the apparent abilty & position to create a front against the 'genocidal elite' with their silly but dangerous plans ,plans wich in the end of the day are stupid and selfdestructive as any person with a functional brain can see..
    He is perhaps just too smart & ambitious to let them play russian roulette with the world..

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    Default Re: Musk is not the answer

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    There's no pleasing some people, eh...

    aka.. from the OP... Derrick Broze of The Conscious Resistance hosts journalists/researchers Whitney Webb, James Corbett, Jason Bermas, and Ryan Cristián to discuss why the public should be extremely skeptical of Elon Musk.

    it's fair enough to urge caution but do they think people happy that Musk bought Twitter are therefore going to accept a brain chip on the strength of it...?

    I only watched the shorter Youtube video - that's enough for me because basically nothing they say is going to change the fact that at the moment - as things stand right now... I'm glad Elon Musk bought Twitter and has exposed the shenanigans going on... TBH I found the panel on the video a bit smug and annoying - would they have preferred that Musk DIDN'T buy Twitter and the platform was just allowed to go on and on censoring and propagandizing on behalf of the Globalist Deep State...?

    Can't we just be happy about SOMETHING... does EVERYTHING have to be twisted into darkness + doubt...

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    I still reserve the right to consider the possibility it can all be an 2020's " Operation Trust " being played out, (yes surprisingly I don't have blind faith in Q etc) and that it could be a case of good copy and bad copy scenario playing out on the public with Elon Musk, even Q & POTUS Trump, at the end of the day they could all be on the same team as the NWO.

    But having said that Jessie Czebotar has said 95% of the people in the satanic cult don't want to be in cult. Maybe Elon Musk is one of those people and now is doing what he can to fight them.

    Here Jessie speaks of her personal experiences with Elon Musk in the cult and her thoughts on him, her belief is he is fighting the NWO.

    LIVE WITH JESSIE CZEBOTAR ... The Elon Twitter Files

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    Update

    In this new Q&A interview with Jessie at the 6.30 minute mark Jessie answers the question "What was the purpose of the cabal giving twitter to Elon? "

    LIVE with JESSIE CZEBOTAR ... Q&A

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    Default Re: Musk is not the answer

    Elon Musk like many other "rebellious types" may have many real genuine authentic benevolent aspirations and want to do things in a certain way to, eventually, "get things done" ... the problem with that is >>> how much are you willing to sacrifice of yourself to sell that mission of yours using a compromise you are NOT proud of, but do it anyway "for the greater good" ...

    On top of that problem you have that any really successful billionaire will (most likely) be threatened, coerced, bribed, seduced, manipulated, deceived maybe even blackmailed from almost all angles like the: CIA, NSA, FBI the whole Bi-Partisan Deep State Gang/Minions, The Chinese CCP etc. etc.

    The moment you are hijacked, and you have to act you are not ... how long are you able to play along calling yourself an "independent" thinker? ... This severe problem/issue can happen to everybody, even to the best Souls of this planet ... We do not know how deep & far-reaching the threats are, how far ANY adversary are wiling to go to compromise pioneers like Elon Musk ... same for Donald Trump and other big key-players in the world.

    * It is very easy for us to assume that someone "must" be evil promoting certain things that help WEF BBB Great (Dystopian) Reset "Global Governance" Agenda 2030 & NetZero 2050

    If you were in their shoes you might think you can fight from within infiltrate into their inner circles and hope to find other like-minded rebels ... or you already decided to expose it all if the time is right but "play along" for a while waiting for the right moment to do so ... with the high risk of being killed or worse (long list of horror I do not wish to enlist here).

    Again it is SO EASY to assume someone "must (somehow) be evil" ... to me that remains to be seen on the long run .... Same for all other key-players, especially all who seem 100% legit or 100% benevolent ... not everything is as it seems is more prevalent these days in 2022-2023 and beyond!

    * I try to postpone the ultimate judgment and do not yet give the "benefit of the doubt" but rather be 100% neutral and see what happens ... studying all (!) good & bad signs! ...
    • I will soon make a list of "pro's" vs "con's" of Elon Musk and what most conspiracy researchers may have overlooked or "forgot" to think about ... Maybe it will my first real video production after long time being silent ... (having lost multiple big YT channels with total over 135.000+ subscribers).


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    So Musk spends 44 billion to allow free speech on Twitter. However, I shouldn't trust him, must be some ulterior motive? Do you think that we have become so distrustful that we assume anyone rich and powerful must be compromised?

    So far Musk is doing most things right, so I will continue to trust him until he doesn't.

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    My take on Musk is I guessed that he wanted to do the extraordinary and seduce sceptical truthers. In doing so he danced with the devil God and accidentally did God's work. Stare into the abyss long enough you become the abyss, so I don't see why it shouldn't work the other way round. I'm a Musk cynic but I will take the good things with the best grace I can. That said I am going to wait and see for the long game of this great de-censoring

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    Quote Posted by Matthew (here)
    My take on Musk is I guessed that he wanted to do the extraordinary and seduce sceptical truthers. In doing so he danced with the devil God and accidentally did God's work. Stare into the abyss long enough you become the abyss, so I don't see why it shouldn't work the other way round. I'm a Musk cynic but I will take the good things with the best grace I can. That said I am going to wait and see for the long game of this great de-censoring
    Well I like Musk, I hope to connect to Starlink when it becomes available here in the boonies. His space program is exciting and electric cars? Let the market sort that out.

    The old bible saying "you judge a tree by the fruit it produces" and Musk is certainly producing good fruit. I wouldn't put him in the same category as Bezos, Gates and other lowlife billionaires.

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    I like those things too. But he didn't actually invent the Tesla and he didn't really found paypal. I like what he's done recently, but I can't unsee him being a bit of a phoney with Tesla and paypal.

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    I like those things too. But he didn't actually invent the Tesla and he didn't really found paypal. I like what he's done recently, but I can't unsee him being a bit of a phoney with Tesla and paypal.
    True, he does have a vision though, and accordingly has inspired a new generation, something this world desperately needs. A space-faring future - love it! Who knows what discoveries we will find out there?

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    Elon is a scammer.

    @Dreamer148

    Injecting delusional idea into the youth is crime against humanity.
    A space-faring future using the rubbish, primitive rocket propulsion is absurd.
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    Elon is an actor.

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    Elon's background was the subject of conversation on the latest from Dark Journalist
    I've listened to the whole thing, but unfortunately, I don't recall where in the show Elon came up.
    Hopefully Alexandra Bruce of Forbidden Knowledge will give us some show notes, and maybe that will help to pinpoint it.
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    Default Re: Musk is not the answer

    Quote Posted by Dreamer148 (here)
    Quote Posted by Matthew (here)
    I like those things too. But he didn't actually invent the Tesla and he didn't really found paypal. I like what he's done recently, but I can't unsee him being a bit of a phoney with Tesla and paypal.
    True, he does have a vision though, and accordingly has inspired a new generation, something this world desperately needs. A space-faring future - love it! Who knows what discoveries we will find out there?
    Hey this is a good point. I forget the things I like about Elon after wallowing in the grime, and no disrespect to myself here, because just as I honour your point of view in good faith I can apply that to myself as I go back and forth between appreciating Elon and distrusting him; two points of view like oil and water. Yet I have a strong feeling they're both true at the same time. User gord's avatar illustrates this better than my fat fingered words:

    The Truth:




    And who can argue with the observation that Project Avalon drags the truth to a cynical place. I mean this thread is a great example. Not meant to be a criticism of this thread, or Project Avalon. We expect humans to be perfect then throw rocks at them when we discover they're only human

    So fair enough to keep your head above the ocean of cynicism. Mine grew because of things Elon did like posted in this thread (cross thread link). That was compelling enough for me not stop short of elevating Elon to truther hero status, and instead I keep him filed under possibly misguided but still ten times more useful than most of them. And because of my own human failing I forget to look at the good fruits of his works while cynically staring at the things I hate. So you got me thinking and no one else has challenged my cynicism like you have Dreamer, gotta appreciate that to be fair.

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    Quote Posted by Matthew (here)
    I like those things too. But he didn't actually invent the Tesla and he didn't really found paypal. I like what he's done recently, but I can't unsee him being a bit of a phoney with Tesla and paypal.
    I don't see that as being really fair. Like all innovators didn't start from scratch, but math, science, tech that came from others. I don't think anyone cares if he is the god and creator of EV's. The level of difficulty to operate the business side and technical side and build huge factories of scale to mass produce and improve products is far from phoney.

    I agree with Jaybee and Wegge. If he is doing positive things for our cause to sucker us, so be it. We just have to see thru the lie when the real threat arises. Then they supported our cause and failed at theirs. I trust the creator suckers the 'bad guys' in this way from time to time, with backfiring.

    Regardless of Elon's true intentions, We are always going to have doubt with anyone extremely influential and powerful. The forces they are up against means a good person must do some questionable stuff once in awhile due to the mess at the top. Imagine a politician never lying. I doubt that's possible, unless you are Jesus and don't mind dying or being removed from your position fairly quick.

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    Default Re: Musk is not the answer

    Can anyone name anyone else in the USA that is financed by US taxpayers, namely the DOD that flourishes with honesty and integrity? If you are absolutely altruistic you are not going to be given the green light for everything you want to do. I think the government was at least smart enough to understand how horrific the hirelings for the genocide are as far as people liking them. They got smart enough to give the people a little breather with someone rather likable and funny. Someone we could get behind. I don't trust the the guy as far as I could throw him.

    He cam up with a 15000.00 prototype pod, most likely because all but the special one will be living in these, and really I don't object. But you are the wealthiest guy in the world why is he not doing actual altruistic work?

    He will cause more damage than you will ever dream of, but, I give him this, he is a refreshing break from the freaks they throw out their. Remember this is all theatre....every last bit of it.

    I would love to be totally wrong. I actually find myself wanting to like him. Wanting to believe in him. If I am wrong and read this post some day and blush at it's idiocy I will be forever grateful. No one does extremely well in this inversion without express cooperation. NO ONE.

    I do give it to him,,, he is likable but most narcissists are quite charming.
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    Default Re: Musk is not the answer

    The powers that be have used this tact for a long time. They give you a little truth to gain your trust, while hiding the really good stuff.
    Elon aligns really well with the WEF.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1F_i...w?usp=drivesdk

    Notice, about vaccines, he says “the science is unequivocal.” This brilliant billionaire rocket scientist thinks vaccine science is unequivocal when the exact opposite is true??? Oh my.

    Elon also apparently believes in climate change while mass producing EV’s that harm the environment more than combustion engine vehicles, while limiting movement (the real purpose of EV’s).

    I got another great example just today. A friend of mine, Karen Bracken, posts a Substack every day, just her own little news aggregate of stuff that is not widely circulated.

    https://karenbracken.substack.com/

    Karen opened a Twitter account a couple weeks ago and only posted the link to her Substack. Her Twitter account was terminated without notice or cause.

    This is exactly how all my accounts were terminated prior to Elon purchasing it.

    Only a little bit of truth is allowed, never the whole enchilada.

    Lastly, Elon is the largest United States military contractor on this planet. Do you honestly think the cabal would allow a guy like that to really side with the people? Not a chance.

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    Default Re: Musk is not the answer

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    I still reserve the right to consider the possibility it can all be an 2020's " Operation Trust " being played out, (yes surprisingly I don't have blind faith in Q etc) and that it could be a case of good copy and bad copy scenario playing out on the public with Elon Musk, even Q & POTUS Trump, at the end of the day they could all be on the same team as the NWO.

    But having said that Jessie Czebotar has said 95% of the people in the satanic cult don't want to be in cult. Maybe Elon Musk is one of those people and now is doing what he can to fight them.

    Here Jessie speaks of her personal experiences with Elon Musk in the cult and her thoughts on him her belief is he is fighting the NWO.

    LIVE WITH JESSIE CZEBOTAR ... The Elon Twitter Files

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    Update

    In this new Q&A interview with Jessie at the 6.30 minute mark Jessie answers the question "What was the purpose of the cabal giving twitter to Elon? "

    LIVE with JESSIE CZEBOTAR ... Q&A

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    13 Jan 2023

    Thanx! I found that first video(have not listened to the 2th yet)very telling ,convincing and resonating with my feelings/intuitions

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