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    My position has shifted a little on Grusch. I believed from the beginning this was part of a soft-disclosure push, and Grusch was wheeled out to be the mouthpiece of that. Unknown, untainted, clean-cut, he was the perhaps the perfect (unwitting) candidate.

    He comes across well in this interview, and sounds quite legit. But my gravest doubt is seated in the idea that if the "Real Truth" is really ever to come out it won't come from the Intelligence Community. Grusch is an active Intelligence asset. He's from that world, he lives in that world -- one doesn't look within organized crime to bring an end to organized crime.

    Could a real whistleblower achieve what he has achieved? Whistleblowers are those who tell things they're not supposed to tell. As a result their clearances are revoked, backgrounds are erased; they are harassed, they are threatened, and some even disappear.

    Grusch seems to have made it through all that relatively intact, which let's just say...arouses suspicions.
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    Quote Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
    My position has shifted a little on Grusch. I believed from the beginning this was part of a soft-disclosure push, and Grusch was wheeled out to be the mouthpiece of that. Unknown, untainted, clean-cut, he was the perhaps the perfect (unwitting) candidate.

    He comes across well in this interview, and sounds quite legit. But my gravest doubt is seated in the idea that if the "Real Truth" is really ever to come out it won't come from the Intelligence Community. Grusch is an active Intelligence asset. He's from that world, he lives in that world -- one doesn't look within organized crime to bring an end to organized crime.

    Could a real whistleblower achieve what he has achieved? Whistleblowers are those who tell things they're not supposed to tell. As a result their clearances are revoked, backgrounds are erased; they are harassed, they are threatened, and some even disappear.

    Grusch seems to have made it through all that relatively intact, which let's just say...arouses suspicions.
    Yes, it does make it suspicious.

    If you are listening to the Grusch info from the position of being new to Ufology and the release of UFO information, then it might appear very legit and exciting.

    I think you are still correct with the thinking that this is part of a soft-disclosure push. But I think that is the problem - I think this is the Intelligence community establishing control over a slow, soft move with UFO disclosure.

    With what David Grusch has come forward to say I would think that there would be a lot more activity of documents, interviews and photos etc., seen by the public.

    It almost appears like they (those in control of disclosure) are taking a look at the current status of public interest. Maybe even looking for any potential "leaks" from within. (Who else might jump forward with information.)

    This could actually push disclosure back (from our perspective).

    One thing that really bothers me is how the interviewer, Ross Coulthart, is always trying to bring out "fear" in his interviews with Grusch and any other interviews his does on this subject.

    Sometimes Ross Coulthart almsot feels groomed as much as David Grusch has been.

    In my opinion, one of the only good things with this current movement is that the basic subject is being moved a little more into the public's face.
    The only bad thing is if they keep moving it along with FEAR. That obviously feels like the fake invasion scenario is being updated.

    It is almost like disclosure is intentionally being moved with the polar opposites - Greer with all ETs are good! And the DOD, with UAPs are a threat!

    edited to add; Did they bring out Grusch because Greer was doing another public release?

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    • Tucker Carlson On UFOs: Too Dark To Share; Grusch: Gov't Has Killed People For Trying To Go Public:
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    • What a Covert U.S. Government UFO Program Discovered with Colm Kelleher:

    “He stated that the United States was in possession of a craft of unknown origin and had successfully gained access to its interior. This craft had a streamlined configuration suitable for aerodynamic flight but no intakes, exhaust, wings, or control surfaces. In fact, it appeared not to have an engine, fuel tanks, or fuel.”
    • Quote from ‘Inside the US Government Covert UFO Program: Initial Revelations’
    Colm A. Kelleher, Ph.D., is a biochemist with a fifteen-year research career in cell and molecular biology. Following his Ph.D. in biochemistry from the University of Dublin, Trinity College in 1983, Kelleher worked at the Ontario Cancer Institute, the Terry Fox Cancer Research Laboratory, and the National Jewish Center for Immunology and Respiratory Medicine. For the past eight years he has worked as project manager and team leader at a private research institute, using forensic science methodology to unravel scientific anomalies.

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    • Top Secret UFO / UAP Nuclear War Document Revealed: The Document David Grusch Gave Congress:

    On July 26, 2023 government whistleblower David Grusch testified to Congress about a top secret illegal UFO / UAP crash recovery program. He also mentioned a top-secret document regarding UFOs / UAPs and preventing nuclear war with Russia. We reveal that top secret document for the very first time along with a declassified Australian UFO document and a trove of other CIA documents in the redacted UFO Special Collection that many have not seen that proves the reality of UFOs / UAPs.
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piG1...oppingTheWorld

    The creator of the Youtube Channel "Stopping the World" from India- is a rather new and growing channel dedicated to exploring and sharing insights on the true nature of reality.
    The interview with Dr. Colm Kelleher, who did extensive UAP research for the DIA, provides a lot more details than previous interviews from the usual sites in the Western world

    Dr. Colm Kelleher was a full time professional researcher for many years for Bigalow Aerospace and DIA.

    He goes into deception and manipulation of human perception by the UAP

    He discusses are UFOs a form of consciousness or advanced "nuts and bolts" technology?

    What is the motivation behind UFO appearances? Threat analysis of UFOs.

    Recent terminology used to answer observational evidence called Bi-directional mimicry" and the term he coined "Axelrod" leading to the "Hitchhiker Effect"

    UFO encounters and the paranormal activity and effects on the person.

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    Its not widely known what research is carried out in other countries. Its important to be aware that other countries outside the USA do have organisations that have a history
    of UFO or UAP research that spans many decades. For example, the largest UAP repository in the world is in Sweden. The longest running UFO government research
    station since 1984 is in Norway. The French government in the 1950s set up GEPAIN to link into all police stations as an alert system around France to study UFOs. China has 120 UFO field stations linked to Meteorological stations distributed throughout the country since the 1970s. University of Wurzburg, Department of Space Science established a UFO tracking station since 2000, just to name a few!

    UAP Research in Germany has a new journal paper that can be accessed below at link.
    It was just announced this month that the work and projects of the German GEP e.V. are now described in more detail in a recently published open-access journal paper:

    UAP Research in Germany: Single Case Studies, Data Management, Understanding of “Strangeness”.

    In: Journal of Anomalistics Vol. 23 (2023), No. 2, pp. 302–323

    DOI: https://doi.org/10.23793/zfa.2023.302

    https://www.anomalistik.de/en/janom/...3-zfa.2023.302

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    • Tucker Carlson Exposes Dark Alien Agenda?

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    Default Re: UFOlogy Developments So Far... 2023

    All such a non event. Those that were killed or who remain shut would have a giggle. Oh hum, why bother?

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    Quote Posted by Robert deTree (here)
    All such a non event. Those that were killed or who remain shut would have a giggle. Oh hum, why bother?
    Why bother to comment, @Robert deTree, if you only depend on your own worldview to be the "only" complete correct one? ... You want others to join your tunnel vision type assumption, to what end?

    Maybe you forgot that "sharing" does not mean: "fully endorsing" nor "fully supporting" nor "it must all be true" nor "this is the only thing that matters" etc. etc. etc.

    Sharing can also mean: "Look at this, what can we make of it? ... What agenda is served here? (if any) ... How much is true? ... What did they leave out in the bigger picture? ... What does this connect to other things we know? ... Why now? ... What does this mean? ... etc.

    You see, not everything that is shared suppose to be a (forced) "one way of thinking" it isn't actually it never was with everything I share or see others sharing ... It is all about having inquiring curious minds but with a healthy skeptical approach.

    And if it does not resonate with your own quest that's perfectly fine .... but a comment like yours is all about you thinking having a "higher moral ground" what we "suppose" to do or not, correct?
    • If I am wrong in my assessment, please correct me! Am all ears.
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    This is a great video s7e6e - thank you - and in my view it's a must watch for many reasons. It also relates to discussion on the Mind Control thread.
    "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable" (John F Kennedy - 13th March 1962)
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    • If new UFO Footages appear in 2024-2025
    This Project Avalon Forum Thread may be useful:
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    • Professor Kevin H. Knuth on The Physics of UAP 2023 Lecture:

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