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    Default Re: US Shoots Down Multiple "Chinese Surveillance Balloons"

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Inversion (here)
    This video contains the recent chain of events and includes a DOD briefing. At 3:00 it appears a big rig and push truck are transporting a UFO. This could be an orchestrated start to a false flag alien invasion.

    02/12/23 (15:27)
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=05X0XtOZwx8
    Two large trucks (not just one, as normal) would only be needed for something super-heavy-duty industrial, e.g. a large component made of very solid earth-human steel.

    This is all typical of the click-bait hysteria that's proliferating now. There's something about all this that we don't yet know or haven't been told, for sure, but it's slam-dunk certainly nothing to do with real ETs. Their craft couldn't possibly be shot down by an F-22, or anything else we have other than maybe) an extremely high-powered laser. It's all rather frustrating to watch!
    We can almost be completely certain of one thing; a rather major ugly event is about to take place.
    We should probably know more of what may possibly be happening by the end of the week (or sooner).
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    Default Re: US Shoots Down Multiple "Chinese Surveillance Balloons"

    2016, Steven Greer's talked in-depth about the covert criminals staging a cosmic false flag

    Interesting notes:
    - They've been planning it since the 1940s (Von Braun's infamous warning)
    - They've been staging abductions & animal mutilations to fabricate their threat narrative
    - They've got the tech to pull a big fat staged Armageddon production
    - Tips to differentiate between real ET presence and the bull****


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    I don't know if this is a piece of the puzzle or not... but it came to mind..

    In the dark journalist video he mentioned sky flashes over Montana (a state which keeps being featured) in the early days of this saga. I had forgotten about this. The flashes were captured on video and shared online with millions of views, I remember seeing it just after it was posted, and it's still viewable on twitter via the @bennyjohnson account, posted on the 4th of Feb 2023.

    On the 6th of Feb 2023 the devastating Turkey-Syria earthquake occurred. The first video I saw of the earthquake was filmed during darkness and showed multiple sky flashes. I had thought it was lightning, but it is now believed to be triboluminescence (information here https://groundreport.in/what-is-eart...-massive-jolt/) caused by the brewing earthquake itself. This is a very rare phenomenon, and I think it's still somewhat controversial within science, and I don't think I've seen it captured on video before. Apologies if this has been discussed in another thread.

    Anyway, this is all probably completely unrelated - but did we ever get an explanation for the Montana flashes (they were quite intense)? I wonder if there was any seismic activity in the area.

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    Default Re: US Shoots Down Multiple "Chinese Surveillance Balloons"

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Two large trucks (not just one, as normal) would only be needed for something super-heavy-duty industrial, e.g. a large component made of very solid earth-human steel.

    This is all typical of the click-bait hysteria that's proliferating now. There's something about all this that we don't yet know or haven't been told, for sure, but it's slam-dunk certainly nothing to do with real ETs. Their craft couldn't possibly be shot down by an F-22, or anything else we have other than maybe) an extremely high-powered laser. It's all rather frustrating to watch!
    I'll advise People, looking for a more "down to Earth" (lol) explanation, to watch this Guys vid, at the end he does contradict himself a little concerning Nuclear War.

    Tbh though, I feel his assessment on this Clown Topic (not OP, in general) cuts wood and is most likely spot on..


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    Why don't they just shoot one down over land, then they won't have a problem retrieving the debris, oh my god and I came up with this without assistance from the Intel community , what a concept to make a decision like that. Am I qualified? Didn't go to college, was on a bowling team once, yeah that's it.im qualified.

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    Quote Posted by pyrangello (here)
    Why don't they just shoot one down over land, then they won't have a problem retrieving the debris, oh my god and I came up with this without assistance from the Intel community, what a concept to make a decision like that. Am I qualified? Didn't go to college, was on a bowling team once, yeah that's it, I'm qualified.
    And — where's the camera footage from the F-22s??

    That's always there, in any encounter, of any kind, with anything at all.

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    Default Re: US Shoots Down Multiple "Chinese Surveillance Balloons"

    Quote Posted by pyrangello (here)
    Why don't they just shoot one down over land, then they won't have a problem retrieving the debris, oh my god and I came up with this without assistance from the Intel community , what a concept to make a decision like that. Am I qualified? Didn't go to college, was on a bowling team once, yeah that's it.im qualified.
    it could contain any kind of agent: nuclear, bacteriological, viruses, name it. Better shoot it where there is nobody. Even animals could be contaminated and kill our farm ones inturn.
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    And as for lighting those chemicals on fire that were in a sealed train car, really ? Is this the best decision makers we have ,? This is like the mapping of the human genome but yet we still need to do live tests on monkeys or we have the technology to burn trash and make electricity but yet we still keep polluting the oceans. Ah yes once again government at it's best , I wonder how many lawsuits will be filed from some idiot making the decision to burn those train cars. This land will be non usable for decades, and much of this land was used for only organic crops.

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    Flash , valid points but all t his stuff went airborne when they shot it, and none of those recovery guys in the pictures had on hazmat spacesuits either when recovering the debris from the water. My bet is on they don't want us to know what it is because once again we the people are too stupid to digest this. And having it fall in the water allows for many deceptive politically correct excuses.

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    Here's Dr Steven Greer. (No, they're not alien spacecraft. )


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    Default Re: US Shoots Down Multiple "Chinese Surveillance Balloons"

    IMO, I don't think you can shoot down a UFO/UAP with our aircraft. However that doesn't rule out other ways without aircraft where there is evidence to show that some UFO/UAP crash landed. The history of military/UFO exchange has gone back at least 75 years.

    The current news is specifically talking about shooting down objects with aircraft.

    How can you compete with objects that manage to manipulate space / time invisibility. All the characteristics presented from 1947 until today are the evidence of a gap that separates us, perhaps of millennia. Already in years past when a jet tried to shoot at UFOs, "they" jammed the enemy engagement devices. In the case of the events of the Nimitz and Tic Tac have shown to have these characteristics:

    Top five observable features that have persisted since 1947:

    1) Extreme maneuverability.
    2) Hypersonic speed.
    3) Low observability.
    4) Transmedium travel capability
    5) Positive ascent without any kind of obvious traces of aerodynamics, thrust or propulsion.

    An engagement against these objects would be impossible as the historical records show.

    Presenting a new hypothesis, although unlikely, cannot be ruled out in the equation of possibilities:

    What if the devices were from advanced ET group living on Earth underground, usually incognito; now knowing that the NORAD radar filters are open, they could have allowed some of their devices to be detected and shot down. A change in underground ET policy towards us? Another crazy possibility. Would the formal Government tell us?

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    Quote Posted by aoibhghaire (here)
    In the case of the events of the Nimitz and Tic Tac have shown to have these characteristics:

    Top five observable features that have persisted since 1947:

    1) Extreme maneuverability.
    2) Hypersonic speed.
    3) Low observability.
    4) Transmedium travel capability
    5) Positive ascent without any kind of obvious traces of aerodynamics, thrust or propulsion.
    There hasn't been an official released video showing objects exhibiting neither:

    1. Extreme maneuverability.
    2) Hypersonic speed.
    nor
    4) Transmedium travel capability.

    Ever.
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Two curious reports:

    https://t.me/intelslava/44460
    https://t.me/intelslava/44463


    Hey , what is 800,000.00 to shoot at balloons. And no debris found. Now that is amazing. The first missile just mysteriously vanished...What about all the satellites? (I am admittedly hugely out of my wheelhouse here) I thought satellites could pick up on anything. Their surveillance power was endless, but we can't figure out where the first missile is? This is so out of my league but what a bunch of ridiculousness. Anyone, please feel free to correct my observations. What am I missing or is this just shoddy lying?

    I'm not buying the alien invasion thing for a second.

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    Quote Posted by pyrangello (here)
    Flash , valid points but all t his stuff went airborne when they shot it, and none of those recovery guys in the pictures had on hazmat spacesuits either when recovering the debris from the water. My bet is on they don't want us to know what it is because once again we the people are too stupid to digest this. And having it fall in the water allows for many deceptive politically correct excuses.
    Kind of like burying Osama Bin Laden at sea...... that was a test of our gullibility.

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    Default Re: US Shoots Down Multiple "Chinese Surveillance Balloons"

    Quote Posted by Pam (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Two curious reports:

    https://t.me/intelslava/44460
    https://t.me/intelslava/44463


    Hey , what is 800,000.00 to shoot at balloons. And no debris found. Now that is amazing. The first missile just mysteriously vanished...What about all the satellites? (I am admittedly hugely out of my wheelhouse here) I thought satellites could pick up on anything. Their surveillance power was endless, but we can't figure out where the first missile is? This is so out of my league but what a bunch of ridiculousness. Anyone, please feel free to correct my observations. What am I missing or is this just shoddy lying?

    I'm not buying the alien invasion thing for a second.

    Neither am I. You're not missing anything, you're just seeing through the BS that will be hypnotising most of the masses.


    " Kind of like burying Osama Bin Laden at sea...... that was a test of our gullibility."


    As was 9/11.
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    Although the focus here is not just the Chinese balloons but also other reports of UAPs being shot down over Canada, the rationale given is the same: it's a distraction for the war machine.

    The interviewer is the outstanding Kim Iversen (who I have never seen discuss UFOs, so hats off to Kim for doing a great job on this one!!!) and the interviewee is Steven Greer.


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    SKY WARS: Fake alien invasion psyop being tested on suggestible Americans

    Monday, February 13, 2023 by: Mike Adams

    U.S. and Canadian Air Force jets are using high-cost missiles to shoot down metallic birthday balloons while claiming they are “defeating” the objects. It’s all part of a massive psyop to try to imply that aliens are invading Earth’s atmosphere and that alien craft are being shot down by modern jet fighters.

    Every effort is being made to paint these birthday balloons as mysterious, possibly alien craft. And it’s all ridiculous. For example, the WSJ reports that a “flying object” was shot down over Canada. This object was described as a “small metallic balloon” (i.e. some little boy’s birthday balloon filled with helium) that drifted to 20,000 feet altitude.

    Canadian officials were breathless over their amazing military effort to “defeat” a helium-filled birthday balloon. From the WSJ:

    A Canadian patrol aircraft is trying to pinpoint the debris from the destroyed object. Ms. Anand said she wouldn’t speculate on the object’s origins. “The importance of this moment should not be underestimated. We identified the object together and we defeated this object together,” Ms. Anand said of the joint U.S.-Canada mission. She added this marked the first time in the history of the North American Aerospace Defense Command, or Norad, that jet fighters shot down an object.

    That’s a whole lot of hyperventilation over a birthday balloon.

    The Russians must be ROFL, knowing that U.S. and Canadian military brass are bragging about shooting down a birthday balloon, using terms like “unknown origins” (because they don’t know which kid released it at his birthday celebration).

    Similarly, other media stories — obviously planted as part of a psyop — talk about how the objects show “no visible propulsion system” which is exactly how helium birthday balloons operate, of course.

    All helium balloons floating in the atmosphere have “no visible propulsion system.” And they aren’t “flying,” really. They’re floating. So even the WSJ headline is misleading.

    Furthermore, the idea that humanity’s pathetic fighter jets could defeat the technology of aliens who possess Faster-Than-Light (FTL) capabilities is absurd. If aliens are actually visiting Earth — which isn’t an unreasonable conjecture — they surely aren’t stupid enough to have their UFOs shot down by the woke military morons of Canada and the Pentagon.

    If anything, extraterrestrials would be laughing at Earth’s stupid humans who mutilate their children, murder their babies and have gone so woke that they think 2+2=5.

    As we approach World War III, however, it sure is nice to know that the U.S. military is capable of shooting down birthday balloons. Whether that will matter when Russia’s Hyperglide Vehicles deliver nuclear warheads to Washington D.C. is another issue altogether, however. If the U.S. military could shoot down Russia’s rockets, then Russia wouldn’t be able to keep repeatedly striking power grid targets in Ukraine, would they?

    The good news is that if America is invaded by birthday balloons, we have an effective national defense system that we can count on.

    https://www.naturalnews.com/2023-02-...americans.html

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    I don't believe anything, but I have many suspicions. - Robert Anton Wilson

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    Default Re: US Shoots Down Multiple "Chinese Surveillance Balloons"

    Alaska Shootdown Was PR Stunt https://realrawnews.com/2023/02/alas...-was-pr-stunt/

    The “object” shot down over Alaskan Airspace on Friday was a USAF “aerial target drone,” not a balloon or extraterrestrial spacecraft, sources in General Eric M. Smith’s office told Real Raw News.

    I'm just saying................................................... and for that $400,000 that missed , where did that missile go ? Love the graphics Jim - perfect sir

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