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    Here's a worrying example:

    https://t.me/intelslava/44627



    And here's the video. (Jeez!!! )

    https://t.me/intelslava/44680


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    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    Has anyone made an attempt to estimate how large the area is (in square miles) that is contaminated via air rain-falls?
    • Is it spread over multiple states?
    • Has the wind changed directions multiple times when the burning was happening? Or was it steady, just going over one direction eastwards?
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    I did some REALLY rough calculations.

    2 grams of vinyl chloride spread out evenly in a cubic kilometer is enough to pass the threshold that causes immediate health problems (acute threshold)

    My source for that is an old hazardous materials manual, not the CDC's new update.
    453,000,000 grams were spilled but a large portion of this went through a chemical reaction when they detonated the spill.

    So my calculations are essentially useless. But they do let you know just how BAD this vinyl chloride stuff actually is.

    I will add that it is HIGHLY SUSPECT that the vinyl chloride toxicology profile was updated in January 2023 for the first time in 17 years...
    Image is directly from the updated toxicology profile from the CDC.

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    Biden just denied financial help to the good people in Ohio, yet he continues to send 100 billion to some guy living in basements over in ukraine . Its time for the people of the united states to start taking care of there own. There is no goverment anymore for the people, there is an agenda for this administration and it doesnt involve the american people, we are just in the way. If your looking for the definition of dysfunctional ,this is it.

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    'Uncanny': Actor from 'prediction' Ohio disaster movie also real resident of East Palestine
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    (More "mere" coincidence??)

    "Ben Ratner, who played a background role in the 2022 Netflix movie "White Noise," which accurately 'predicted' aspects of the East Palestine, Ohio train derailment, is also a real life resident of the town. He joins Eric Bolling to discuss."

    Each breath a gift...
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    Some info on detoxing from vinyl chloride poisoning.












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    Quote Posted by DNA (here)
    This was food for thought.


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    I hate to say it but this rings true - it isn't something that would be done straight away but a few years down the line...and gradually...

    Those engineering events to take Agenda 30 etc forward... must know people are not going to just move off the land - no matter how difficult life becomes but this is in a different (evil) league... destroying the environment and wildlife making the land dangerous to live on (not forgetting poisoning the water supplies) - I expect they see it as making difficult decisions to make sure the changes they are pushing actual happen... I'm quite sure the elites behind destroying the West as we know it, have no mercy as evidenced by the death and suffering caused by the experimental jabs - we are like chess pieces to them - and making vast tracks of land in the American (mainly Republican?) heartlands empty of people is just one of their many moves...?

    It will take more than a gun to protect from this kind of attack...

    This is speculation, of course, but the none reaction of the Biden Administration and the Media speaks volumes - it will take a lot to sweep this under the carpet but that doesn't mean they won't try...
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    Quote Posted by pyrangello (here)
    Biden just denied financial help to the good people in Ohio, yet he continues to send 100 billion to some guy living in basements over in ukraine . Its time for the people of the united states to start taking care of there own. There is no goverment anymore for the people, there is an agenda for this administration and it doesnt involve the american people, we are just in the way. If your looking for the definition of dysfunctional ,this is it.
    I'm assuming the fluoride ppm value has been revised again throughout US, thus eliminating any chance of civil war. People are too exhausted and confused to fight anymore.

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    • Doctor Shares Potential Long-term Effects Of Ohio Toxic Chemical:

    'Hannity' panelists Dr. Janette Nesheiwat and Lee Zeldin react to the federal government's response to the East Palestine, Ohio, train derailment.
    No need to follow anyone, only consider broadening (y)our horizon of possibilities ...

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    Trump announces on Thursday that he will visit the site of the Ohio train derailment and at the same time residents start to file lawsuits against the Federal Gov and Norfolk Southern. The very next day the government tells us that they are sending in FEMA and they will start to offer residents Federal Aid. This is happening two weeks after the disaster. This decision is blatantly political and appallingly late.

    Ohio train derailment: FEMA to deploy team to East Palestine 2 weeks after disaster

    The Federal Emergency Management Agency is deploying federal assistance to Ohio now more than two weeks after the toxic Norfolk Southern train derailment that threatened the village of East Palestine.

    Gov. Mike DeWine said the move came following further discussions with the agency.

    In a joint statement on Friday, the governor and FEMA Regional Administrator Thomas Sivak said FEMA and Ohio had been in "constant contact" regarding emergency operations in the community.

    Source & to read the full story: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ohi...weeks-disaster
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    https://twitter.com/davidicke/status/1626890348038332416
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    Default Re: The Feb 2023 Ohio Chemical Disaster

    Quote Posted by Blastolabs (here)
    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    Has anyone made an attempt to estimate how large the area is (in square miles) that is contaminated via air rain-falls?
    • Is it spread over multiple states?
    • Has the wind changed directions multiple times when the burning was happening? Or was it steady, just going over one direction eastwards?
    cheers,
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    I did some REALLY rough calculations.

    2 grams of vinyl chloride spread out evenly in a cubic kilometer is enough to pass the threshold that causes immediate health problems (acute threshold)

    My source for that is an old hazardous materials manual, not the CDC's new update.
    453,000,000 grams were spilled but a large portion of this went through a chemical reaction when they detonated the spill.

    So my calculations are essentially useless. But they do let you know just how BAD this vinyl chloride stuff actually is.

    I will add that it is HIGHLY SUSPECT that the vinyl chloride toxicology profile was updated in January 2023 for the first time in 17 years...
    Image is directly from the updated toxicology profile from the CDC.

    Attachment 50460

    EPA.gov safety data sheet for vinyl chloride
    Thanks so much Blastolabs. Yep, another coincidence. The whole friggin infrastructure is crumbling, we have documents stashed in Bidens garage, but thank God someone had the time to reevaluate the toxicity of vinyl chloride. Kind of like when a Monsanto rep was recorded saying glyphosate was so safe you could drink a glass of it. Of course, he declined to do it. It's those damn conspiracy theorists again. Always, butting in.

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    Quote There Is Fire In Our Crowded Theater

    250 million people live east of the Mississippi. Two million gallons of vinyl chloride might have something to say about that.

    Adam Gaertner
    13 hr ago


    Up to two and a half million gallons of one of the most toxic substances known to man have been released into the air, water and soil of the Eastern Seaboard, and are presently making their way south and east. Acid rain, which in this case is hydrochloric acid mixed with concentrated, unburned vinyl chloride, has (so far) been reported in every direction:

    West: 400 miles west to Lafayette (probably further)
    North: 1200 miles north up to Durham, Canada;
    East: 1200 miles east to NYC and Boston today more
    South: 800 miles southwest to Kentucky so far

    Vinyl chloride is water-soluble, takes months to degrade in soil or water (the Camp Lejeune spill was just a few thousand gallons), boils at 8F, and its metabolites absolutely maul DNA: safe exposures are considered to be in the parts per billion (“Standards”), and we’re talking about parts per million exposure likely coming for everybody east of the Mississippi.

    There will likely be some isolated parts of the eastern United States that escape contamination. However, I sure as hell would not want to wait around to find out which ones will be passed over.

    There are 250 million people living to the east of the Mississippi River, and considering the rate at which it is progressively moving south with the water and east on the winds, every single person on the entire eastern seaboard may have only a few more days to leave before they are exposed to a lethal concentration of vinyl chloride. Everybody in the areas which have received acid rain have already been exposed, and will likely develop extensive cancers over the coming few months.

    I will just say:

    If you live anywhere east of the Mississippi River - in my humble opinion - LEAVE.

    Maybe plan to come back in a couple of weeks; the magnitude of this will be more evident by that time. We have been at war for the last three years, and somebody may have just landed the killing blow with an utterly, historically unprecedented chemical weapons attack.

    I’ve waited as long as I can, in good conscience, to gather evidence and to write this. I fully understand what I’m saying, and that 99% of people either can’t leave, or want to wait for more information, or just generally refuse to believe something of this scale could ever happen here. Not to mention that there’s absolutely no way this article will reach everybody that needs to hear it. I can scarcely believe I’m writing this, and I have been praying to be wrong. I really, really hope that I am wrong, but I do not think so. The authorities sure aren’t going to tell us the truth about any of it.

    So, for those of you who are inclined to take it seriously, or aren’t quite sure yet, read on for the data and events thus far, share this with anybody you care about, and if you are in the affected area - that is, anywhere east of the Mississippi - LEAVE.

    Or, don’t - I’m not your mother. Time is short. I hope I’m wrong.
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    ..and what about this?...Graphene absorbs/binds to Dioxin? Couldn't be.....could it??

    Quote Using density functional theory, we have theoretically studied dioxin binding on a graphene sheet or carbon nanotubes (CNT), finding that they can be effective adsorbents for dioxin in the presence of calcium atoms. This is due to a cooperative formation of sandwich complexes of graphene sheet or (5,5) CNT through the interaction pi-Ca-pi with the total binding energy of more than 3 eV. This correlates with the band structure analysis, which indicates charge transfer from the carbon systems and calcium atoms to dioxin when the molecule binds to the metal-doped carbon systems
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    EXCLUSIVE: Toxic cloud left Ohio family coughing up blood and forced them to flee their newly purchased home as creek water turned blue and wildlife disappeared after chemical train disaster

    Nathan and Kelly Izotic were forced to flee despite living outside the designated 'danger of death' zone created by the February 3 Norfolk Southern derailment.
    The couple revealed wildlife has fled and they now fear their newly bought 15-acre property, two miles from chemical train disaster, may never be repaired.
    They were forced to leave their East Palestine home the weekend after the environmental catastrophe when they came down with aggressive symptoms.

    The first obvious sign was the dead fish bobbing in their creek and a toxic blue film on the water.

    But now there's something else missing from one Ohio couple's woodland 'paradise' home two miles from the East Palestine chemical train disaster: Birdsong and the constant chitter chatter of squirrels.

    The massive acrid black cloud that spewed from the fiery wreck engulfed Nathan and Kelly Izotic's property within 24 hours of the February 3 disaster, carried by a westerly wind.

    The environmental and potentially lethal fallout from the Norfolk Southern rail company's 'chemical bomb' derailment attacked them on two levels.

    Since then, they have been struck with agonizing sickness and coughing up blood, and now fear a cancer diagnosis in years to come due to two known carcinogenic chemicals from the fiery cloud of the crash.

    The couple is facing an environmental catastrophe on their newly bought 15-acre property. Wildlife has fled and they now believe they might never bounce back .

    As DailyMail.com walked with them through their woodland as they tested toxicity levels in the brook, chemical lab technician Kelly revealed: 'We had red and gray squirrels through this property, constantly chitter chattering to each other. It was pretty loud.

    'And now there are none. They've gone completely because of the toxicity all around them right here.

    'There's no small birds either. They were everywhere, but they've taken off. That must tell you something.'

    The couple, who live outside the mandatory evacuation zone that was designated 'danger of death', were forced to leave their home nonetheless the weekend after the Friday derailment when they started feeling violently sick.

    'Within 24 hours we had burning noses, burning lips, chest congestion, sore throats and headaches, big, big headaches,' said Kelly, 45.

    'My German Shepherd dog Diesel kept throwing up and was lethargic.'

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-disaster.html

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    Quote Posted by TrumanCash (here)
    EXCLUSIVE: Toxic cloud left Ohio family coughing up blood and forced them to flee their newly purchased home as creek water turned blue and wildlife disappeared after chemical train disaster

    Nathan and Kelly Izotic were forced to flee despite living outside the designated 'danger of death' zone created by the February 3 Norfolk Southern derailment.
    The couple revealed wildlife has fled and they now fear their newly bought 15-acre property, two miles from chemical train disaster, may never be repaired.
    They were forced to leave their East Palestine home the weekend after the environmental catastrophe when they came down with aggressive symptoms............

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-disaster.html
    Unfortunately we're gonna hear these types of stories escalate....
    They claim it was a faulty wheel bearing that caused this derailment, I'm not buying that reason.
    Seems like these types of events are happening almost on a daily basis now, I think WWIII started a few years ago.
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    They claim it was a faulty wheel bearing that caused this derailment, I'm not buying that reason.
    When figuring all this out, this security cam video may need to be explained. It was captured at 8:12 pm on the day of the derailment, February 3, about 20 miles from the actual derailment, indicating that the fire was burning there under the rail car for quite some time.

    If the train was traveling at 25-30 mph, then the fire would have had to have been burning for some 40-45 minutes or more. That fits with the time of the derailment being at around 9:00 pm.

    The fire can start to be seen at about 0:20 in the short video.

    https://twitter.com/_esaliba/status/1625869553665187840
    Last edited by Bill Ryan; 18th February 2023 at 16:42.

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    EXCLUSIVE: Toxic cloud left Ohio family coughing up blood and forced them to flee their newly purchased home as creek water turned blue and wildlife disappeared after chemical train disaster

    Nathan and Kelly Izotic were forced to flee despite living outside the designated 'danger of death' zone created by the February 3 Norfolk Southern derailment.
    The couple revealed wildlife has fled and they now fear their newly bought 15-acre property, two miles from chemical train disaster, may never be repaired.
    They were forced to leave their East Palestine home the weekend after the environmental catastrophe when they came down with aggressive symptoms............

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-disaster.html
    Unfortunately we're gonna hear these types of stories escalate....
    They claim it was a faulty wheel bearing that caused this derailment, I'm not buying that reason.
    Seems like these types of events are happening almost on a daily basis now, I think WWIII started a few years ago.
    I'm not buying that, either. I used to be a railroad brakeman and you can see the sparks from a railroad car when rounding a curve that would have alerted the crew. If it was that bad, the car would be set out on a siding. To me it all points to a planned disaster.

    Also, in the Daily Mail article that I posted above: "Energy industry worker Nathan, 29, said: 'The thick cloud was billowing right over our house for the two days we stayed.

    'The day after the derailment I started having symptoms, almost like Covid symptoms, like someone was pushing down on my chest. I had very strong pressure." Call me a conspiracy theorist but a reaction "like Covid symptoms" makes me wonder if that was also part of the plan.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
    They claim it was a faulty wheel bearing that caused this derailment, I'm not buying that reason.
    When figuring all this out, this security cam video may need to be explained. It was captured at 8:12 pm on the day of the derailment, February 3, about 20 miles from the actual derailment, indicating that the fire was burning there under the rail car for quite some time. If the train was traveling at 30 mph, then the fire would have had to have been burning for some 40 minutes or more.

    The fire can start to be seen at about 0:20 in the short video.

    https://twitter.com/_esaliba/status/1625869553665187840
    Wow! When I was a brakeman I never saw anything that bad. Sometimes I would see a few sparks like a car hand brake that was not fully released but nothing like that.

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    Default Re: The Feb 2023 Ohio Chemical Disaster

    Quote Posted by TrumanCash (here)
    Quote Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
    Quote Posted by TrumanCash (here)
    EXCLUSIVE: Toxic cloud left Ohio family coughing up blood and forced them to flee their newly purchased home as creek water turned blue and wildlife disappeared after chemical train disaster

    Nathan and Kelly Izotic were forced to flee despite living outside the designated 'danger of death' zone created by the February 3 Norfolk Southern derailment.
    The couple revealed wildlife has fled and they now fear their newly bought 15-acre property, two miles from chemical train disaster, may never be repaired.
    They were forced to leave their East Palestine home the weekend after the environmental catastrophe when they came down with aggressive symptoms............

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-disaster.html
    Unfortunately we're gonna hear these types of stories escalate....
    They claim it was a faulty wheel bearing that caused this derailment, I'm not buying that reason.
    Seems like these types of events are happening almost on a daily basis now, I think WWIII started a few years ago.
    I'm not buying that, either. I used to be a railroad brakeman and you can see the sparks from a railroad car when rounding a curve that would have alerted the crew. If it was that bad, the car would be set out on a siding. To me it all points to a planned disaster.

    Also, in the Daily Mail article that I posted above: "Energy industry worker Nathan, 29, said: 'The thick cloud was billowing right over our house for the two days we stayed.

    'The day after the derailment I started having symptoms, almost like Covid symptoms, like someone was pushing down on my chest. I had very strong pressure." Call me a conspiracy theorist but a reaction "like Covid symptoms" makes me wonder if that was also part of the plan.
    I read somewhere that the rail car was burning like that for 20 miles or so before the actual derailment. Seems if it was that hot on an axel that it would of softened a lot of metal and broke apart a lot quicker than 20 or so miles later (but I'm no train axel/bearing expert). It looks more like the rail car itself was burning up higher than an axel. The tank itself looked to be burning or something on it that was flammable was burning. I find it odd (if true to be a 20 mile long fire burning)) that the fire wasn't seen and reported before the train derailed. The whole ordeal just seems weird, this seems more like sabotage IMO.

    If this was a planned event, why Palestine OH? Instead of following the money this time, perhaps, we should follow the water.....
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    Default Re: The Feb 2023 Ohio Chemical Disaster

    The railroads in the USA have what are called 'Defect Detectors' that check for things as the train passes over them. One of the things they check for is overheated wheel bearings and brakes. There are thousands of these D.D.'s all across the rail system in the US.


    One of these DD's is located right in the center of East Palestine Ohio. There is another located approximately 30 or 40 miles both to the east and west of East Palestine. Not being a train man myself, but, how-in-the-hell did this train continue to travel when surely it passed over at least 1 if not more of these DD's? That train should've come to a stop long before it derailed.
    I am enlightened, ............ Oh wait. That's just the police shining their spotlights on me.

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