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    So I had a bit of hunch about the Marburg virus and did some research which took me down a real rabbit hole. This is an important piece of the puzzle and there is much more devil in the detail than included in this article.

    When the Covid-19 virus first came on the scene and had yet to be named many people wanted to call it the Wuhan virus. This would not have been without precedent. Many viruses are named after the location they are first discovered. For example The Marburg virus gets its name from the town of Marburg in Germany where it was first discovered in 1967.

    The origins of Covid-19 were presented as zoonotic likely from bats and pangolins brought to the wet markets of Wuhan. Similarly, Marburg’s origins were said to be from green monkeys brought for medical research from Uganda to the Marburg laboratory. A human involvement in the evolution of Covid 19 was initially vehemently denied but increasingly the evidence of gain of function experimental involvement has become undeniable. Similarly, serious questions need to be asked about the evolution of the Marburg virus and its possible genetic manipulation.



    The Behringwerke Laboratory where the Marburg virus was discovered has a disreputable history having being involved in Nazi research on diseases like typhus during the second world war. In collaboration with the Hygiene Institute of the Waffen-SS they took inmates from the Buchenwald concentration camp and experimented on them. Prisoners were infected with typhus in order to constantly have fresh pathogens available for experiments. 127 inmates are said to have died from these experiments.

    But biological warfare experiments could not have taken place in Marburg after the fall of the Nazi regime, could they?

    After World War II, a Nazi doctor involved in the experiments at Marburg, Kurt Heissmeyer was convicted and sentenced to death but not all Nazi doctors experienced the same fate. A notable example was Dr. Kurt Blome who was a high-ranking Nazi scientist who had worked on biological weapons research during World War II, some of it related to the work at Marburg. After the war, he was recruited by the U.S. military as part of Operation Paperclip, and in 1947 he was brought to the United States to work on biological warfare research. Unsurprisingly his presence in the USA caused a lot of controversy and his visa was not granted.



    So in the early 1950s, Blome was transferred to the European Command Intelligence Center (ECIC) that was a military intelligence organization that operated within the United States European Command (USEUCOM). This was at Oberursel, West Germany just an hour’s drive from the laboratory at Marburg. At the centre, he worked on developing the USA’s biological warfare capabilities while also assessing the capabilities of the Soviet Union in the field of biological warfare.

    There is evidence to suggest that the research conducted at the lab in Marburg, Germany, was related to the development of biological weapons connected with this ECIC program. The lab began work in the early 1960s for research into viral hemorrhagic fevers. This just happened to be the place where a new super viral hemorrhagic fever emerges in 1967, the Marburg virus. That is blamed on green monkeys who had brought the disease from Uganda. There are grounds to believe that the monkeys received it from the viral genetic engineering that took place at Marburg.

    A possible origin of the Marburg virus could be Crimean-Congo hemorrhagic fever virus (CCHFV) which is from the same family of viruses, called Filoviridae. It was first ‘discovered’ in 1944 in the Crimean Peninsula, now disputed territory between Russia and Ukraine. At the time, Soviet scientists were investigating an outbreak of a disease characterized by fever, haemorrhage, and death among farmers and agricultural workers in the region. They isolated the virus from infected ticks and later from the blood of patients. This just happened to be a region that had just been occupied by the retreating Nazis. At a time when Dr. Kurt Blome was said to be developing a ‘miracle’ biological weapon for Adolf Hitler that could save them the war. The fatality rate of Crimean-Congo hemorrhagic fever virus (CCHFV) is around 10% to 40%, the fatality rate of Marburg is 25% to 90%. The Ebola virus is also in the same family and was first identified during outbreaks in Sudan and the Democratic Republic of Congo in 1976. It has proved less fatal but is more contagious. Whatever the extent of the human involvement and genetic manipulation of these viruses there is no doubt with extensive evidence that these viruses have been weaponised by both the USA and Russia.

    The influence of the Behringwerke laboratory in Marburg has continued to grow. Now an Industrial Park with approximately 7,000 employees working within the biotechnology centre. The centre has attracted many cutting edge pharmaceutical companies including BioNTech.

    BioNTech are of course famous for creating the mRNA vaccine for the Covid-19 vaccine with dubious effectiveness. The site at Marburg is amongst the largest mRNA manufacturing facilities worldwide. producing up to 750 million doses of the Covid-19 vaccine a year. With the increasing side effects associated with the vaccine, some have questioned if it is itself a biological weapon.

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    Stanley Johnson, Boris Johnson's father, famously wrote a book based on the 1967 outbreak. The Guardian paper wrote a piece about his book "The Marburg virus" when Stanley Johnson republished it forty years later (since it was out of print). The only impression I get from this is the Guardian's shameless privileged promotion of what is just like any other trash novel, except they obviously scratch each others backs. Or are they scratching at our imagination? With a strong Nazi connection I don't assume it's a harmless piece of crony-helping-crony.



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    Here's the Guardian's piece:
    https://www.theguardian.com/culture/...ld-virus-novel

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    Default Re: The Nazi connections of the Marburg Virus

    Quote Posted by Matthew (here)
    Stanley Johnson, Boris Johnson's father, famously wrote a book based on the 1967 outbreak. The Guardian paper wrote a piece about his book "The Marburg virus" when Stanley Johnson republished it forty years later (since it was out of print). The only impression I get from this is the Guardian's shameless privileged promotion of what is just like any other trash novel, except they obviously scratch each others backs. Or are they scratching at our imagination? With a strong Nazi connection I don't assume it's a harmless piece of crony-helping-crony.



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    Here's the Guardian's piece:
    https://www.theguardian.com/culture/...ld-virus-novel
    Thanks for drawing attention to this book of which I was not aware. From the Guardian article, it seems like this book is a bit of a deflection from the real history of the virus whether Boris's dad intended it to be or not. I don't think there are any mentions of the Nazi, project paper clip connections and biowarfare program.
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    The creators of the TV series "The Americans" have stated that they drew inspiration from real-life espionage cases and events during the Cold War. While the show is a work of fiction, it is heavily influenced by historical events and real-world spy craft.

    While the show takes some creative liberties with historical events and the world of espionage, it is generally recognized as a well-researched and accurate portrayal of the complex and shadowy world of Cold War espionage.

    One of the most interesting explorations of the series for me was in series 4. This explored The USA and Russian Bio warfare programs. They explored this through the character of William who was a Russian spy / bio warfare scientist who was working in the USAs bio-warfare program.

    The viruses that he was attempting to obtain for the Russians were haemorrhagic fevers of which Marburg is of course one. Which has been a focus on bioweapons research for over 70 years.

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    Two more people in Equatorial Guinea have died of Marburg hemorrhagic fever, a cousin of the Ebola virus, bringing the toll of fatalities to 11, the authorities say.

    "Two days ago, the monitoring system recorded eight notifications, including the deaths of two people with symptoms of the disease," Health Minister Mitoha Ondo'o Ayekaba said in a statement issued late Tuesday.

    Work is underway "to strengthen assessment of the spread of the epidemic," said the statement, read on national television.

    "Forty-eight contact cases have been documented, four of whom have developed symptoms, and three who have been quarantined in hospital," it added.


    Potential treatments, including blood products, immune therapies and drug therapies, as well as early candidate vaccines are being evaluated, the WHO says.
    -yeah I bet they are!

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    Default Re: The Nazi connections of the Marburg Virus

    Dorjezigzag, I also have been picking up ominous hints of the possibility of this as an impending script. Thanks for bringing attention to it.

    I notice that often when they run old movies on daytime tv, the themes are directly related to the next play they plan, and they are insidiously introducing it into the mass psyche.

    Lately, they have dug up the old movie "Outbreak". (They even have it playing now as I type this.) It is about a pandemic of a Hemorrhagic Viral Fever they call "the Motaba virus."

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    Quote "Outbreak is a 1995 American medical disaster film directed by Wolfgang Petersen and based on Richard Preston's 1994 nonfiction book The Hot Zone."

    The single biggest threat to man's continued dominance on the planet is the virus.
    — Joshua Lederberg, Ph.D., Nobel laureate, Film introduction: Outbreak (1995)
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    I am glad to see this thread started, and I don't think it is a bad idea to start researching possible early preventatives and remedies for this type of illness assault now.
    (I remember finding research on Ivermectin and quercetin for SARS very early on in the covid scare when it was first starting in late 2019)
    It seems that every day now I am hearing a mild hint about "Marburg" in the mainstream.

    Perhaps we could all add our findings to this thread. I have a few links saved already which I will try to locate and post later.
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    Default Re: The Nazi connections of the Marburg Virus

    The first documented cases of "Marburg virus" in Africa ALL occurred in people who had been recently injected at a local clinic.
    No virus was ever actually isolated and the original paper actually says "Infections stopped when injections stopped"

    Make of it what you will but I'd be extremely skeptical of any viral disease.

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    "It needs to be noted that, according to Slenczka’s account of the events, no “virus” was ever properly purified and isolated at any point during the investigation into the potential cause of disease afflicting the laboratory workers in 1967. In fact, the initial evidence for the existence of the Marburg “virus” essentially boiled down to experimentally making Guinea pigs sick through serial passaging of unnatural injections of blood/tissues into their stomachs, examining their spleens and livers using non-specific antibodies to find non-specific inclusions, and then taking electron microscopy images of the sickened animals blood and claiming random particles seen in the unpurified and contaminated samples are the “virus” in question. Eventually, after many unsuccessful attempts of trial and error failures, it was claimed that the “virus” could be propagated in cell culture (without CPE) using the Guinea pig (not human) materials."

    https://viroliegy.com/2022/08/29/the...rsor-to-ebola/

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