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    ...could've gone under archeology and anthropology but I'm really interested in our lost history and the lies continually fed to us in our historical narrative.

    That makes it a broader thesis.

    One of the next things that comes to mind is the Flood Myth.

    Well, the thing to it is that there was a Little Ice Age which ended around 10,000 years ago, which altered coastlines, so it is entirely possible that the Stairways of Malta were not built underwater.


    To an extent, I stick to some of the basics and classics, such as Ignatius Donnelly's Atlantis, the Antediluvian World:


    Published in 1882, ATAW is one of the best constructed Atlantis theories, as it makes no recourse to occult or 'channeled' information. Donnelly's lucid style and command of the facts (such as they were) make the book readable and compelling even today....--JBH



    And then--not taking anything too literally, but suggestive--are the Four Map Periods from W. Scott Elliot's Story of Atlantis:



















    What is interesting is that in the last one, what we call the Gobi Desert was an inland sea.

    This matches geological study which indicates there was a time when Himalayan glacier melt contributed to something like a paradise.

    Then through relatively recent history, everything dried out until the last significant settlement in Takla Makan dessicated around our year 600.

    In Nepal we have the legend of Manjushri who is said to have split open the Chobhar Gorge and drain a lake and thereby make Kathmandu Valley inhabitable.

    Geological studies indicate this was an event and that it was about 30,000 years ago.

    Manjushri is from Wu Tai Shan which is Five Peak Mountain in China almost to the Mongolian border.

    Is it possible this legend is 30,000 years old?


    It is not hard to imagine ancient and very extensive routes of migration. The Denisovan which was found in Siberia is though to be generally unrelated to us, however, some New Guineans are up to 5% Denisovan.



    There is probably a more concrete response about Dwarka, city of Krishna:


    Seals, inscriptions, which have been dated to 1500 BC.

    Pottery, which have been dated to 3528 BC.

    On the other hand explorations conducted in the Gulf of Cambay waters revealed sandstone walls, a grid of streets and some evidence of a sea port 70 feet under water, and artefacts dating back to 7500BC.

    Eroded debris and pottery provided evidence of a port town destroyed by sea about 3,500 years ago.



    The layout of the excavated city, the spread and the location of fort walls and bastions match the descriptions mentioned in Harivamsha, a prologue to Mahabharata. Harivamsha described the city of Dwarka in minute details. According to it, the area of Dwarka was 12 yojanas. It was connected to the mainland by a strip, which is visible even now, in low tide. The city excavated is of the same size.


    Based on the correlation between the excavated structures and artefacts with the description of Dwarka in Harivamsha purana, and the fact that the carbon dating of artefacts fall around 3500BC, the same period concluded by many astronomical analysts as the period of the Mahabharata war and the submersion of Dwarka, it is more than reasonable to conclude that the excavated site near Bet Dwarka is indeed the legandary city of Dwarka.

    The discovery of the second exploration at Gulf of Khambat proves that it was not just Dwarka that got submersed, but more costal regions got encroached by the sea over centuries, and the dating of artefacts to 7500BC indicates that the ancient indian civilization is more than 9000 years old, and the entire coastal regions has been going under sea from 9000BC, and this phenomenon took over the city of Dwarka by around 3500BC.







    And even more archaic, there is Adam's Bridge:


    During periods of lowered sea level over the last 100,000 years, Adam's Bridge has provided an intermittent land connection between India and Sri Lanka.

    The ancient Sanskrit epic Ramayana mentions a bridge constructed by the god Rama to reach the island Lanka and rescue his wife Sita from Ravana.

    Al-Biruni's Tārīkh al-Hind (c. 1030) was probably the first to use the name, Adam's Bridge. This appears to have been premised on the Islamic belief that Adam's Peak — where the biblical Adam fell to earth — is located in Sri Lanka, and that Adam crossed over to peninsular India via the bridge after his expulsion from the Garden of Eden.











    In conjunction with the Map Periods, we could say:


    Tectonic plate drift is not observable.

    The plates may slip, horizontally, a few meters. What they are actually doing is moving up and down like pegs.

    So the two older maps represent cataclysms, and then you get to Poseidonis and the Flood, which is just a minor cataclysm, this one being remembered in multiple cultures and traceable in several ways.


    There is a smaller place that is almost as continuous:


    The hilltop of Tell Baalbek, part of a valley to the east of the northern Beqaa Valley (Latin: Coelesyria), shows signs of almost continual habitation over the last 8–9000 years.


    The Indian one is probably the genuine article. Matches the national epic. Do other places even have epics? I have forgotten how that works.

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    I can't help but wonder when our culture is reset and the archeologist of another times dig up one ugly McDonalds store with attached sign after another. One Starbucks after another. One Walmart after another. We are going to be the absolutely most boring, least satisfying cultural revelation of all time. No matter how many cultures and eras have occurred here.

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    The guys in the secret handshake club are the gatekeepers. They block real discovery all the time. They are literally involved in every institution at the highest levels, and in the highest levels of gov. and education and media and leadership of the world. Only they know the truth. Even Mario Biglino says there are two bibles the one for the 'Inclass' of the elite that wrote the one for us for the outclass of peoples, which is the majority of what they consider to be serfs and cannon fodder for their wars. All of these leadership or chair positions encompass the world. They use only deviants for their other positions of gov. like the presidents and elected that come and go regularly. While they may not be members of the club of 300 or committee of 300 they do join other secret groups to be gathered in for the situations where instructions and orders must be given for the elite class. They love using deviants like Bill Clinton and more because their own deviant behavior which they have holding over each of them is what they use to control them for whatever they want in the way of favors, politically, diplomatically or finacially or military it doesn't matter. The people they select and place have to be someone they can control and if they cannot? Well, they react like theyd id with Trump, an outsider that used to be an insider apparently but has ignored their control mechanisms which is why they punish him now. This is much the same as when they punished Bill Clinton with Lewinski and that scandal. It will knock them in the head to either make them follow their orders or they'll bury them. They currently kill masses with numerous techniques including the mRNA vaccination that isn't a vax. It's what they've always done and unless the sheep waken they have no intention of changing course.
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    Only they know the truth

    That's a lot of credit.

    I am quite skeptical that any of "those people" know much of anything in particular. Have they heard of Dwarka?

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    There seems to be quite a bit of interesting history erased on Tartary or Tartaria and that civilization that spans from China to the new world and I found this map this guy here found quite compelling. Lewis & Clark used it to explore the USA and well, this is a short but sweet intro to two more videos behind it that are even longer and better.
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    Yeah, good question. Not a good look, to get all excited about it/something and not (?) know that. I am not excited by what Mr. R. is describing, and I appreciate your coolness too, but what are you talking about?

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    Only they know the truth

    That's a lot of credit.

    I am quite skeptical that any of "those people" know much of anything in particular. Have they heard of Dwarka?

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    Wow, thanks all, nice to see all the great input. Playing a little catch up, went off grid over the weekend, and when i say off grid I mean a trip to Portland, Oregon, don't have a phone, don't want one, so a trip to the city is me going off grid. What a sh!thole, we were immediately greeted by homeless smoking crack and shooting up on the streets upon entering - couldn't have asked for a warmer welcome, the city that spares no expense. Last time we do that. 80th bday party, had to be there, dad turning 89 and jabs are killing him, heart working at 35%, so maddening, but I'm sure you know how that goes, we all know someone who's been effected, already killed my mother, never had a problem with blood clots before...

    Sorry, getting off topic, but it's infuriating, especially when you tried to tell them and they wouldn't listen and then you have to watch them die.

    But thank you all for the great info. The more I dig the more ludicrous the narrative becomes:

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    Quote Posted by Johnnycomelately (here)
    what are you talking about?

    I put Dwarka in the middle of post 21.

    Not much mystery there, it matched written descriptions from ancient traditions, and most modern techniques such as carbon dating verify it.

    Although India has schisms, atheists, and others who don't care, somewhere behind it all is unbroken continuity which is easily ten, maybe thirty thousand years old. "Primitive" habitation is at least a million years old, although I won't jump to the conclusion that massive stoneworks or weird technology like flying machines are that old. Varies by what "Atlantis myth" you favor.

    Point being in the ca. 10,000 year range, there is no shortage of evidence of a Flood, at least in terms of coastlines, and, at least in India, knowledge about it. Sumerian and Egyptian cultures, although exhibiting signs of phenomenal age, do not have continuity of knowledge. The closest would be that after the founding of Cairo, ca. year 900, it had gathered up all the gnostics, but, with further regime changes, these migrated to the northeast, joining with their kindred in a society we now call Druze.

    Most European Freemasons wish they had something to do with the Druze; the Shriners organization especially mimics their appearance. However it is a closed society. They don't talk about everything, and you cannot possibly join it in any way whatsoever.

    There is precious little continuity anywhere in the world. The other day I saw an article about a Russian expedition to Chad, which was excavating the remains of a mid-sized society which is believed to have flourished ca. 600-1600. Nothing is known about it. In Europe, it should be obvious that starting even in the early years of existence, knowledge has been collected and stored in The Vatican. As to whether any of that would be particularly useful to us, or, to some guy who slips off to secretly use it, is difficult to determine. But they keep everything. They censor pornography by collecting it, and then someone has to review what is so "bad" about it so they can make edicts on how to repress. Then you can have things like Hitler's Family Values.

    Knowledges are like Alchemy, mostly coded. Shakespeare invented nothing when the witches were working with "Eye of Newt" and so forth. There is a story of a guy in India "pre-buying" a particular peacock from a farmer. The peacock grew and when he came to pick it up, the curious farmer asked what it was for. The guy said he needed "neck of peacock" for a chemical or battery or something. The farmer just laughed and said it means copper sulfate.

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    For anyone who missed the video which inspired this thread, I am reinserting it both here and in the original post. It disappeared for quite some time but has finally resurfaced. Enjoy if you haven't seen it yet. Our past is so much more glorious than we've been led to believe - and so is our future...


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    Quote Posted by Raskolnikov (here)
    For anyone who missed the video which inspired this thread, I am reinserting it both here and in the original post. It disappeared for quite some time but has finally resurfaced. Enjoy if you haven't seen it yet. Our past is so much more glorious than we've been led to believe - and so is our future...

    I rewatched this video this morning. The person that presented this video has 7 likes and almost 900 subscribers. I am surprised that there is not a huge interest in this. The title of the video is really touching. "Realize what you lost". I have been doing a deep dive into these magnificent buildings and the narratives presented regarding their destruction and building. The stories about how they were built and their eventual demise are ridiculous. The end of the video is especially touching when he shows the magnificent old building and the crap building that replaced it.

    There are so many channels, some very obscure with few subscribers that look into specific angles. Some focus on "ruins" that show the very similar melting process that is becoming more and more familiar as we have experienced in Maui and Paradise. Just the same look. Ancient and or obscure books that describe the fire in the sky periodically causing massive destruction. Others focus on the absurdity of the narratives of the building and demise of many of these structures.

    The absurdity of the fires burning through cities and the reasons for them, such as a cow kicking over a lamp allegedly causing the great San Francisco fire. I am embarrassed to admit that I bought that story without a second thought. I could go on and on, but there are a group of people that study and visit these sites and tear apart the narratives.

    Why on earth would we humans decide to destroy these incredible structures so we could throw together shanties, cabins, all sorts of inferior structures? Why would those decisions be made world wide? Yes, some were left and turned into capitol buildings, churches, palaces of the very wealthy and powerful, and interestingly insane asylums but it was necessary to only leave enough to make them seem like rare architectural oddities not part of a magnificent culture that created beauty and yet valued the natural world at the same time.

    There was a coordinated effort to make this age, or era, the one that we are in, that would bring AI out into the culture in a new form, ugly and angular in defiance of the natural world. There was effort and long term coordination that brought this age to the place where we are right now.

    That is how a coordinated effort to destroy any definitive evidence of the other eras is to this day ongoing. The exceptions being evidence that can be manipulated into the false historical story line. In the US all skeletal remains of giants seemed to go to the Smithsonian only to disappear.

    It appears that this worldwide population that created the culture, most likely the Tartarian culture that valued beauty and had a much more harmonious relationship with earth simply vanished? We have all sorts of evidence of huge amounts of children without parents. Children being exploited for labor, the orphan trains and much more. What happened to the adults?

    We have a bunch of excess kids, enough to have babies in incubators on display at the Chicago Worlds Fair and a culture that seems to just appear that doesn't seem to know anything about the previous, grander culture? One that in many cases seemed to have buildings for people or beings much larger than we are.

    I understand that there have been organic resets. The Deluge, the mudfloods, which were probably liquification of the earth surface and more, but those would not explain how it appears that all of a sudden we have a new clueless set of humans and a bunch of extra kids with no parents. Clueless humans that agree to destroy structures like those of the Chicago Worlds Fair. Not only tear it down but get rid of all the stone and residue that would be left over. Think of the effort and expense involved in that.

    I know I am jumping over a bunch of topics that each deserve much more attention, but as I realize the level of deception we live in, some things still don't make sense. Does anyone have a decent explanation of what happened to the ones that lived in and created these buildings? Not the absurd narratives of some obscure person whipping up a masterpiece in a year or two only to have it torn down later or fall victim to a mysterious fire? Yep, stone structures burning down, seemed to be pretty common back in the day.

    If anyone has a good theory or could direct me to answers that at least make some sort of sense I would appreciate it.

    I will make a list of several obscure channels on youtube that deal with different aspects of this and add them to this thread for anyone interested.

    This is a great thread that means a bunch more to me now that I am researching it in far greater detail. Thanks R.

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    I have the same questions Pam, thanks for the great feedback. I lived in SF for two decades and never heard the story of the "cow kicking over a lamp" to start the great fire. That is so absurd it's both laughable and a slap in the face at the same time, as if they're mocking us. These buildings are all over the world and appear to have been destroyed in nearly identifical fashion, which they of course call fires. Look more like bombings to me, similar to Hiroshima and Dresden. Fires can't do that to stone, more absurdity. Unless, of course, we're talking about the "fires" of Paradise and Maui.

    The old photos of these buildings definitely show humans looking very out of place and unsure what to do with their fantastic new surroundings, structures clearly not built for we tiny little humans. It does make one think of great "giant holocaust" brought to you by the Smithsonian in the late 19th/early 20th centuries. They've got their gatekeepers in all positions of power to protect, distract, cover-up, destroy, whatever it takes to keep their false narrative alive.

    Btw, just to be clear on that video, the buildings at the end are from the 1904 St. Louis World's Fair. St. Louis, Missouri! Looks like the depictions of heaven from many of the fundamentalist Christian books or what ancient Greece was supposed to have looked like. And yet here in American little more than 100 years ago.

    As far as the reason for wiping it out, you can't control people with unlimited energy and intellect, which the builders and inhabitants of those buildings obviously had. Sacred geometry and resonate generators, which I think most of those buildings were, in abundance. The before and after pictures say it all. Surrounded by beauty and architecture which multiplies and enhances the powers of nature and the universe, the human potential would be unbounded and unstoppable. Hence, they destroy and stop it.

    The narrative is absurd, and yet very few have ever questioned it. Even me in SF for 20 years. I was so distracted chasing both my tail and others, haha, that I never gave it a second thought. But I do now. And many more continue to do so as well.

    Thanks again for the great feedback and keep it coming!
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    I have the same questions Pam, thanks for the great feedback. I lived in SF for two decades and never heard the story of the "cow kicking over a lamp" to start the great fire. That is so absurd it's both laughable and a slap in the face at the same time, as if they're mocking us. These buildings are all over the world and appear to have been destroyed in nearly identifical fashion, which they of course call fires. Look more like bombings to me, similar to Hiroshima and Leipzig. Fires can't do that to stone, more absurdity. Unless, of course, we're talking about the "fires" of Paradise and Maui.

    The old photos of these buildings definitely show humans looking very out of place and unsure what to do with their fantastic new surroundings, structures clearly not built for we tiny little humans. It does make one think of great "giant holocaust" brought to you by the Smithsonian in the late 18th/early 19th centuries. They've got their gatekeepers in all positions of power to protect, distract, cover-up, destroy, whatever it takes to keep their false narrative alive.

    Btw, just to be clear on that video, the buildings at the end are from the 1904 St. Louis World's Fair. St. Louis, Missouri! Looks like the depictions of heaven from many of the fundamentalist Christian books or what ancient Greece was supposed to have looked like. And yet here in American little more than 100 years ago.

    As far as the reason for wiping it out, you can't control people with unlimited energy and intellect, which the builders and inhabitants of those buildings obviously had. Sacred geometry and resonate generators, which I think most of those buildings were, in abundance. The before and after pictures say it all. Surrounded by beauty and architecture which multiplies and enhances the powers of nature and the universe, the human potential would be unbounded and unstoppable. Hence, they destroy and stop it.

    The narrative is absurd, and yet very few have ever questioned it. Even me in SF for 20 years. I was so distracted chasing both my tail and others, haha, that I never gave it a second thought. But I do now. And many more continue to do so as well.

    Thanks again for the great feedback and keep it coming!
    First of all I will share 3 of the more popular channels:


    Mylunchbreak
    https://www.youtube.com/@Mylunchbreak

    JonLevi

    https://www.youtube.com/channel

    Divergent



    Here are just a a few of the channels, these are more popular. If there is any interest I will dig around for the unsung hero's that do this investigation for the sheer love of it, regardless of how many viewers.

    JonLevi is eclectic in his approach to this information, plus his voice is incredibly relaxing and the guy is just lovable.
    Mylunchbreak really delves into the absurdity of the narratives and he does it in detail.He also reminds of what type of tools would be available during that time line if the narrative was accurate.

    Divergent is quite broad spectrum in his research approach and ventures a bit further than the building structures.

    I find this mystery so frigging fascinating. I went through that stage of kicking myself for buying this stuff, but the truth is I never looked at it as a topic. If I hear one narrative that is ridiculous I am not as likely to notice. When someone grabs your attention and compares and contrasts and one comes to realize that these building were abundant in the US when we weren't supposed to have them everything starts crumbling.

    R, you also brought out the little people in contrast to the buildings. That is absolutely insane. Who is going to go to the trouble to make 50 foot archways for a building for people that are tall at 6 ft. The other thing in so many of these pictures, when you scrutinize them they are never really building anything. They may have scaffolding up but you never see the actual real construction. Most of the people look staged in so many of these photos.

    It's one of those things that once your eyes are opened it opens the old perverbial can of worms. (I don't have any idea where that old saying popped into my head from lol) I could literally sit down all day and write out questions that I now have.

    I absolutely agree, those buildings were loaded with I think they call it antiquitech.
    JonLevi did a video today of which he just showed city halls, as they seem have been a good enough reason not to destroy some of them and there is one building in Belgium, I believe that is loaded with the spires. Of course the remaining buildings have conveniently had those spires removed.

    When I was a little kid my favorite move was "The wizard of Oz". There is a short scene of a lightning rod salesman that traveled from farm to farm selling lightning rods that remind me of the spires on these magnificent buildings. That was my dream job. I was going to become a lightning rod salesman, walking from farm to farm. I still have a huge attraction to them.

    Anyway, I hope others might join in this is a fascinating subject. It definitely is a study that creates few answers and promotes many questions but I find it endlessly fascinating.

    When you see a bunch of these architectural wonders and how beautifully they harmonize with the planet, energy would be abundant and free, what a world that must have been. And it was torn down for strip malls, 7-11's, McDonalds and more. Those people seemed to have some form of what we call AI but it was harmonious not the mess we are creating.



    You like the cow kicking over a kerosine lamp and burning down a brick and stone city like it was dry wood kindling. In my neck of the woods, Seattle was supposedly totally destroyed by a pot of glue catching on fire!!!

    I agree there is a huge element of mockery in this.

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    Default Re: The Old World - who built those magnificent structures found everywhere?

    Just wanted to clarify that the cow kicking over the kerosene lamp that burned down a city was Chicago, not San Francisco. I grew up as a child in the US midwest, and this was presented as a true story which we learned in elementary school. Yes, I agree, though, that it seems unlikely.

    Perhaps it is slightly off topic, but I wanted to add that these remarkable structures in this thread were built without power tools. My father built the house that I grew up in, back in the mid 1950s. He cleared the land and built the house completely without power tools (as all buildings were back then). Electric power tools did not exist. There were no chain saws to cut down trees, he used an axe or a cross-cut hand saw. There was nothing to clear the brush but a scythe. All boards were measured by hand and cut with a hand saw. Every single nail was pounded in with a hammer by hand. All holes were drilled with a hand drill. He used a hand held wood planer to shape wood.

    He had some help from male friends and relatives (and he worked his regular job during the week so could only build on weekends), but it took him over a year and a half.

    He is no longer alive so I cannot question him further on this, but as a child I watched him build many things and use all these tools. I can still smell the fragrance of wood as he drilled holes or sawed boards, all by hand. The wood would smell warm because of the heat of the friction of sawing and the hand drill created the most wonderful curling bits of wood as it turned. And I still have all these hand tools he used all those years ago and treasure them immensely.

    So the mystery of the "old world" is even more remarkable to me when you consider the tools that must have been used, especially with the more "modern" World's Fair constructions, which are recent enough that we know what kinds of tools would probably have been available to them.

    I also have to remark that we have lost much by relying so much on technology. My father was extremely skilled and exacting, and it appeared to me he could detect a one-hundredth of an inch variance both visually and by use of his hands and fingers, in anything he was building. I don't think that skill was terribly unusual at the time. There are very few true craftsmen left in the world (at least the western world) and we have lost much of our innate capacities as humans for remarkable and exacting craftsmanship by succumbing to the ease, convenience and allure of technological tools.

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    Default Re: The Old World - who built those magnificent structures found everywhere?

    ErthVessel, I stand corrected. The massive destruction of many of the old world buildings in San Francisco and shanties as well was due to gross negligence. There were multiple fires. The first was blamed on a earthquake then the multiple fires due to people living in shanties tipping over their kerosine lamps or letting fires get out of hand

    Thank you for the wonderful description of your dads work on the family home. That is the reality. Hard enough, when building a wood structure and it required a great work ethic and diligence. Now imagine building these dome shape stone structures with statues with multiple steeples and crazy detail. Add the detail that those items would be transported by horses. Where would you find locals that could do that. Where do you get the stone, the horses? How do you transport it?

    Some of these beautiful buildings have been overlayed with plain brick and some have had much of the detail removed, such as the sculptures.
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